April 28, 1998: Present Trends - Barbara Marx Hubbard

Art Bell interviews futurist Barbara Marx Hubbard about her book "Conscious Evolution" and her vision for humanity's potential future. Hubbard describes herself not as an optimist but as a "potentialist" who identifies positive possibilities emerging from current global crises. She frames the planetary crisis as a birth process for the next stage of human evolution and argues that humanity stands at a crossroads between self-destruction and transformation into a universal species.

The discussion spans a wide range of topics including space exploration and the stalled manned program since Apollo, the environmental movement and its struggle against fossil fuel interests, renewable energy and zero-point energy research, the population crisis, and the awakening of feminine creativity. Hubbard introduces her concept of "supra sex" as the arousal of creative purpose beyond reproduction. She and Art find common ground on the idea that humanity has passed a point of no return but disagree on the likely outcome.

Callers challenge Hubbard from religious and skeptical perspectives. Art reads a breaking report about a battleship-sized UFO tracked by the RAF at 24,000 miles per hour over the North Sea. The conversation touches on the role of the internet in empowering individuals and the need for an evolutionary vision to replace humanity's current lack of direction.