#37 Envy: When It’s Helpful vs. Unhelpful

Envy shows up in all kinds of relationships, but how often does it actually make us closer to one another?  Host Carter Umhau, LMHC talks with Opal Co-Founders Kara Bazzi, LMFT, CEDS and Dr. Lexi Giblin, PhD, CEDS about their envy for one another and explore the ways in which their envy--after it almost created distance--brought them into a deeper relationship as business partners and friends. Plus, Lexi brings in her Radically Open DBT expertise to lay out the differences between helpful versus unhelpful envy!