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The Animal Turn

Claudia Hirtenfelder www.theanimalturnpodcast.com

Animals are increasingly at the forefront of research questions – Not as shadows to human stories, or as beings we want to understand biologically, or for purely our benefit – but as beings who have histories, stories, and geographies of their own. Each season is set around themes with each episode unpacking a particular animal turn concept and its significance therein. Join Claudia Hirtenfelder as she delves into some of the most important ideas emerging out of this recent turn in scholarship, thinking, and being.

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Episodes

S4E1: Soundscapes and Soundscape Ecology with Bryan Pijanowski

In this first episode of season 4, Claudia speaks to Bryan Pijanowski about soundscapes and sound ecology. They discuss what soundscapes are, how to study them and why thinking about sound might help scholars to think more deeply about animals and their environments. Date Recorded: 7 October 2021 Dr. Bryan C Pijanowski is Professor and University Faculty Scholar in the Department of Forestry and Natural Resources at Purdue University. His work focusses on the use of sounds to study nature and ho...

Nov 01, 20211 hr 28 minSeason 4Ep. 1

The Animal Turn (S4 Trailer)

Animals are increasingly at the forefront of research questions – not as shadows to human stories, or as beings we want to understand biologically, or for purely our benefit – but as beings who have histories, stories, and geographies of their own. PhD Candidate Claudia Hirtenfelder talks to animal studies scholars about some of the most important ideas emerging out of this recent turn. Each season is set around a particular theme so that the ways in which these different concepts hang together ...

Oct 26, 202156 sec0

S3E10: Grad Review with Anmol Chowdhury and Shubhangi Srivastava

Claudia reviews Season 3 with Shubhangi Srivastava and Anmol Chowdhury, currently PhD Candidates in the ERC funded project titled Urban Ecologies. Together they talk about some of the gaps in the season, primarily discussions about methods, and they delve into some of the overlapping themes in the season including management, entanglement, power, and aesthetics. Date recorded : 25 August 2021 Shubhangi Srivastava is currently a doctoral research scholar with the ERC Grant project, Urban Ecologie...

Sep 15, 20211 hr 43 minSeason 3Ep. 10

S3E9: Re-Design with Michelle Westerlaken

Claudia speaks to Michelle Westerlaken about the concept of Re-Design and how design can be used to generate multispecies worlds and opportunities. They discuss Michelle’s background in design with and for animals, how she finds theory incredibly important for design processes, and the ways in which trying to create positive urban design might generate new multispecies opportunities. Date recorded : 26 April 2021 Michelle Westerlaken is a Research Associate on the Smart Forests project in the De...

Aug 11, 20211 hr 15 minSeason 3Ep. 9

S3E8: Urban Animal History with Philip Howell

In this episode Claudia speaks to Philip Howell about urban animal history. Together they discuss the significance of geography in prying apart the many histories of animals, how attention to animal stories gives one a better appreciation for ‘the urban’ and challenges humanist ideas of history. They also touch on the stimulating experience of searching for, finding, and trying to understand animals in the archives. Date recorded : 20 April 2021 Philip Howell is a lecturer in the Department of G...

Jul 22, 20211 hr 23 minSeason 3Ep. 8

S3E7: Multispecies Commons with Marcus Baynes-Rock

Claudia talks to Marcus Baynes-Rock about his work with urban hyenas in Harar, Ethiopia. They discuss how these animals navigate the urban and then delve into the concept of ‘multispecies commons’. In many ways, they workshop the concept in the episode trying to unpack how it is useful as both a theoretical and methodological tool. Date recorded : 5 April 2021 Marcus Baynes-Rock is an anthropologist who studies the interfaces between humans and animals. His book Among the Bone Eaters tracks his ...

Jul 06, 20211 hr 13 minSeason 3Ep. 7

S3E6: Informality with Yamini Narayanan

Claudia talks to Yamini Narayanan about the concept of informality and how it can be used to unpack, complicate and understand urban-animal relations. With a focus on urban-cow entanglements, they discuss how informality is related to urban infrastructure and mobilities that help to bur some of the often dichotomous ways we’ve come to understand not only intra-human relations, but inter-species relations too. Date recorded : 28 April 2021 Yamini Narayanan is Senior Lecturer in International and ...

Jun 23, 20211 hr 26 minSeason 3Ep. 6

S3E5: Urban Metabolism with Catherine Oliver

Metabolism is an increasingly important concept in understanding how cities operate. Claudia chats with Catherine Oliver about the concept of urban metabolism and its usefulness in understanding the multiple scales of multispecies relations that are produced in and through urban living. Date recorded : 3 May 2021 Catherine Oliver is a postdoctoral researcher, currently working on the ERC-funded project Urban Ecologies at the University of Cambridge, where she is researching urban backyard chicke...

Jun 03, 20211 hr 19 minSeason 3Ep. 5

S3E4: Urban Biopolitics with Krithika Srinivasan

Claudia talks to Krithika Srinivasan about the concept of biopolitics and how it could be used to understand multi-species urban relations. They touch on the tensions between harm and welfare as well as how different socio-biological tactics are enforced in the name of urban development. Date recorded : 31 March 2021 Krithika Srinivasan’s research and teaching interests lie at the intersection of political ecology, post-development politics, animal studies, and nature geographies. Her work draws...

May 18, 20211 hr 13 minSeason 3Ep. 4

S3E3: Invisiblized Animals with Paula Arcari

Claudia chats with Paula Arcari about the animals and how animals are rendered invisible in the urban – not only materially but epistemically and ethically too. They grapple with which animals are considered in the celebration of multispecies urban entanglements, and which are not. Date recorded : 29 March 2021 Paula Arcari is a Leverhulme Early Career Research Fellow within the Centre for Human Animal Studies at Edge Hill University, UK. Her three-year project ‘ The Visual Consumption of Animal...

May 04, 20211 hr 24 minSeason 3Ep. 3

S3E2: Pervasive Captivity with Nicolas Delon

In this episode Claudia talks to Nicholas Delon about ‘pervasive captivity’. Moving beyond a conception of captivity as only including those ‘behind bars’, they explore the many ways in which ‘the urban’ might operate to make animals captive by limiting their mobility and autonomy. Date recorded : 15 March 2021 Nicolas Delon is Assistant Professor or philosophy and environmental studies at New College of Florida. He specializes in animal ethics, with particular interests in moral status and anim...

Apr 19, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 3Ep. 2

S3E1: Right to the City with Marie Carmen Shingne

In this episode Claudia speaks to Marie Carmen Shingne about the concept ‘Right to the City’ and how it could be applied to animals. They open up this season, focusing on animals and the urban, by asking whether animals have any claims to the city. Date recorded : 1 March 2021 Marie Carmen Shingne is a doctoral candidate in the Sociology Department at Michigan State University with specializations in animal studies and global urban studies. Her dissertation research is focused on the experiences...

Apr 05, 20211 hr 7 minSeason 3Ep. 1

The Animal Turn

Animals are increasingly at the forefront of research questions – not as shadows to human stories, or as beings we want to understand biologically, or for purely our benefit – but as beings who have histories, stories, and geographies of their own. PhD Candidate Claudia Hirtenfelder talks to animal studies scholars about some of the most important ideas emerging out of this recent turn. ​ Each season is set around a particular theme so that the ways in which these different concepts hang togethe...

Mar 27, 20211 min

S2E10: Grad Review with Pablo Perez Castello, Siobhan Speiran, and Joshua Jones

In this final episode of Season 2, Claudia talks to Joshua Jones, Siobhan Speiran, and Pablo Perez Castello about the theme of Animals and Experience. Together they unpack some of the overarching ideas to emerge in episodes 1 to 9 (such as relationality, imagination, meaning, and beauty) and highlight areas that could be explored more in future. Date recorded : 4 January 2021 Siobhan Speiran is a PhD candidate in Environmental Studies at Queen’s, working with Dr. Alice Hovorka and The Lives of A...

Jan 18, 20211 hr 33 minSeason 2Ep. 10

S2E9: Survivors with pattrice jones

This episode explores a concept that works to highlight the experiences of animals caught up in human systems that oppress animals. Claudia talks to pattrice jones about how animals’ experiences (particularly those of chickens) compare in factory farms versus at VINE Sanctuary. They discuss the significance of talking about not only animals’ victimisation but also but their agency and will to survive. Date recorded : 29 December 2020 pattrice jones is a co-founder of VINE Sanctuary , an LGBTQ-le...

Jan 04, 20211 hr 16 minSeason 2Ep. 9

S2E8: Shoalmates with Jonathan Balcombe

Claudia talks to Jonathan Balcombe about fishes and their varied and incredible experiences. Using the concept of ‘shoalmates’ as a launch pad, they discuss some of the intra- and inter-species relations fishes engage in from work to cuddle and play. Date recorded : 30 November 2020 Jonathan Balcombe is a biologist with a PhD in ethology, the study of animal behavior. His books include Pleasurable Kingdom, Second Nature, The Exultant Ark, and What a Fish Knows—a New York Times best-seller now av...

Dec 21, 20201 hr 8 minSeason 2Ep. 8

S2E7: Political Multispecies Communities with Sue Donaldson

After unpacking what constitutes a multispecies community, Sue Donaldson explains why it is important to consider how politics works to make sure that animals’ experiences, and what they are asking for, are heard. Date recorded : 18 November 2020 Sue Donaldson is a writer and animal advocate. She is a research associate in the Dept. of Philosophy at Queen's University, Kingston, and co-convenor of the Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics research group . She is the author of 4 books, ...

Dec 07, 20201 hr 9 minSeason 2Ep. 7

S2E6: Interspecies Subjectivity with Lauren Corman

Claudia speaks to Lauren Corman about interspecies subjectivity unpacking what subjectivity itself could mean and why it is so important to consider how it is shaped by species. They reflect on threads scholars need to hold in tension when trying to understand experience and using such theoretically dense concepts. Recorded : 6 November 2020 Dr. Lauren Corman is an Associate Professor of Sociology at Brock University. Hired as the first professor to specialize in critical animal studies, Lauren ...

Nov 23, 20201 hr 26 minSeason 2Ep. 6

S2E5: Intimate Geography with Kathryn Gillespie

Claudia chats with Kathryn Gillespie about the ways in which the geography in general and the concept of intimate geography in particular aid in generating knowledge about animals’ experiences. The concept is both theoretically and methodologically rich allowing for focus not only on animals’ experiences but how researchers’ relations with, proximity to, and understanding of animals’ bodies and lives alters the way we come to know said experience. Date recorded : 29 September 2020 Kathryn Gilles...

Nov 02, 20201 hr 12 minSeason 2Ep. 5

S2E4: Animal Art and Aesthetics with Jeffrey Bussolini

Claudia talks to Jeffrey Bussolini, a phenomenologist with a keen interest in feline experiences, about how art and aesthetics can provide a novel way of exploring and reconceptualising animals’ experiences. Date recorded : 16 September 2020 Jeffrey Bussolini is Co-Director of the Center for Feline Studies and the Avenue B Multi-Studies Center, and associate professor at the City University of New York. He studied at Georgetown University, CUNY, the Sorbonne (Paris 1), and the École des Hautes É...

Oct 19, 20201 hr 10 minSeason 2Ep. 4

S2E3: Animal Culture with Carl Safina

Claudia talks to well-known author Carl Safina about ‘animal culture’ and how culture is a crucial part of how some animals come to understand and experience the world. They chat about the incredible ways culture manifests in animals’ experiences and touch on what a serious consideration of animal culture could mean for conservation efforts. Date recorded : 25 August 2020 Carl Safina grew up raising pigeons, training hawks and owls, and spending as many days and nights in the woods and on the wa...

Sep 21, 20201 hr 6 minSeason 2Ep. 3

S2E2: Cognitive Ethology with Marc Bekoff

In this episode, Claudia talks to Marc Bekoff about the field of ‘cognitive ethology’ and how researchers can better learn about animals through attentively watching them and taking seriously their personal experiences. They touch on some of the tensions of how you can ‘know’ other animals’ experiences through and why taking the time to understand their worlds is so important. Date recorded : 14 August 2020 Marc Bekoff is professor emeritus of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the University o...

Sep 07, 20201 hr 10 minSeason 2Ep. 2

S2E1: Phenomenology with Zipporah Weisberg

S2E1: Phenomenology with Zipporah Weisberg In the first episode of Season 2, which is focusing on ‘Animals and Experience’, Claudia speaks to independent scholar Zipporah Weisberg about the concept ‘Phenomenology’. They touch on the potential of phenomenology as a concept and a practice for better understanding the lives and experiences of animals, also contemplating some of the tensions that are embedded therein. Date recorded : 12 August 2020 Zipporah Weisberg is an Independent Scholar, animal...

Aug 24, 20201 hr 7 minSeason 2Ep. 1

S1E10: Grad Review with Hira Jaleel and Paulina Siemieniec

In this final episode of Season 1, Claudia talks to Paulina Siemieniec and Hira Jaleel about the theme of Animals and the Law. Together they unpack some of the overarching ideas to emerge in episodes 1 to 9 and highlight areas that could be explored more in future. Date recorded : 7 July 2020 Guests: Hira Jaleel is a lawyer based out of Pakistan. Hira has recently graduated with an LLM in Animal Law from Lewis & Clark Law School on a Fulbright scholarship. Hira’s LLM thesis – titled “Wildlif...

Jul 15, 20201 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 10

S1E9: Liberty with Valéry Giroux

Claudia talks to Valéry Giroux about liberty and how it relates to animals and the law. Valéry unpacks some of the debates and tensions that arise when thinking about liberty, the different types of liberty there are and also how she envisions the law could better serve animals’ freedom by acknowledging them as persons with rights. Date recorded : 26 June 2020 Guest: Valéry Giroux has an academic training in law and is a doctor in philosophy. She is one of the two coordinators of the Center for ...

Jul 07, 20201 hr 6 minSeason 1Ep. 9

S1E8: Autonomy with Frédéric Côté-Boudreau

Claudia talks to Frédéric Côté-Boudreau about autonomy and how it relates to animals. They highlight some of the tensions with considering animals as beings who might want to make their own choices and touch on what this could mean for the law and the ways in which our societies are structured. Date recorded : 11 June 2020 Guest: Frédéric is a philosophy scholar who earned his PhD at Queen’s University in 2019 with a thesis entitled Inclusive Autonomy: A Theory of Freedom for Everyone. He is bas...

Jun 24, 202055 minSeason 1Ep. 8

S1E7: Animal Warfare Law with Saskia Stucki

Claudia speaks to Saskia Stucki, who sees overlaps between International Humanitarian Law and Animal Welfare Law as providing fertile ground for legal conceptual development. Saskia Stucki believes ‘Animal Warfare Law’ offers a way forward for considering how animal welfare and animal rights could better complement one another. Date recorded : 6 May 2020 Guest: Saskia Stucki is Senior Research Fellow at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law in Heidelberg, Germ...

Jun 07, 202053 minSeason 1Ep. 7

S1E6: Ag-Gag Laws with Siobhan O’Sullivan

Claudia speaks to Siobhan O’Sullivan about Ag-Gag laws with a particular focus on how they are manifesting in Australia. They also touch on some of the tensions that exist between animal welfare and issues of visibility. Date recorded : 30 April 2020 Guest: Dr. Siobhan O’Sullivan is Senior Lecturer in Social Policy at the University of New South Wales, Sydney. She has interests in animal welfare policy and environmental ethics, and is the author of three books, including: Getting Welfare to Work...

May 19, 202059 minSeason 1Ep. 6

S1E5: Extraterritorial Jurisdiction with Charlotte Blattner

Charlotte Blattner discusses how international law, specifically Extraterritorial Jurisdiction, might provide a useful and productive way in which to build legal protections for animals. Date recorded : 10 April 2020 Guest: Charlotte E. Blattner is a senior researcher and lecturer at the Institute for Public Law, University of Bern. She earned her PhD in international law and animal law from the University of Basel, Switzerland, as part of the doctoral program Law and Animals . From 2017-2018, s...

May 05, 20201 hr 10 minSeason 1Ep. 5

S1E4: Personhood with Maneesha Deckha

In this episode Maneesha Deckha explains the legal concept of personhood, why animal advocates are trying to include animals within the category and the potential of a different concept, ‘Legal Beingness’, to side-step some of the challenges of Personhood as a concept. Date recorded : 2 April 2020 Guest: Maneesha Deckha is Professor and Lansdowne Chair in Law at the University of Victoria. Her research interests include critical animal studies, animal law and legalities, postcolonial feminist th...

Apr 22, 202046 minSeason 1Ep. 4
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