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Episode 20

Aug 29, 201916 minEp. 20
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The Angry Clean Energy Guy on the other planetary emergency coming to us via Brazil, the decimation of 500,000,000 bees through the use of pesticides illegal elsewhere; on how Costa Rica offers hope to the burning Amazon Rainforest; on using plastic waste to pay for bus fares in Indonesia and Ecuador; and on a huge health warning sign I wrote that should be slapped on the side of petrol- and diesel-powered buses everywhere in the world. Hero of the Week: Lilly (11), an international environmental champion. Villain of the Week: Japan's public finance institutions, for financing $17bn of coal power in India, Indonesia, Vietnam and Bangladesh - countries with some of the dirtiest air anywhere- that’s up to 40 times dirtier than coal Japan builds at home.

The Angry Clean Energy Guy is back on 13 September

 

Transcript

Speaker 1

Welcome to episode 20 of the angry clean energy guy with me, Assad Razzouk. I am so happy you're here. Thank you. Today I want to talk about bees. Yup, bees, Then I'd like to talk about the lessons in hope that Costa Rica's payment for ecosystem services offers to forests everywhere, especially forests that are burning as the Amazon is today.

And finally I'd like to talk about how you can pay for your bus fare with plastic bottles and plastic cups in two countries that could not be farther apart.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

I want to talk about bees and specifically bees in Brazil. I hope all of you know and have done something about the Amazon rain forest burning. It's burning at a rate which has massively gone up since President Bull Sonero of Brazil came to power because he's basically not enforcing his old laws and therefore farmers and cattle ranchers are having a jolly time burning the rainforest to clear land and preparing it for use.

But within that larger story of the lungs of the planet burning, there is a nother story of 500 million bees that's 500 million bees dying in Brazil. In just the last three months. And the reason they're dying is because another thing both scenario has done is he had opened the floodgates of pesticides on Brazil's farms and forests. His administration has approved a fastly larger number of pesticides than the previous administration in a poison package, so to speak.

So both scenarios, administration has allowed a record 290 pesticides this year, and that's up 27% over last year. Now these pesticides contain products such as neonicotinoids and footprints that basically kill bees. The EU, for example, imposed a total band almost on new knee carotinoids because of the serious harm that they cause to bees . Now let's put the importance of bees into perspective.

There is a supermarket in Hanover, Germany that empty it's shelves of products that depended on bs just to show its customers what that meant. And in the case of that supermarket, 60% of the grocery shelves were emptied to dramatize the effect of the bees disappeared because they had to take away apples, Zucchini, almonds, coffee, Avocados, onions varies, lots of big goods, lots of chocolate, lots of candies, some marinated meats. And even Cameron will sent it toilet paper.

These actually are a very important insect. Plants need them to pollinate, which makes them indispensable. They're also what's called a keystone species, which means that other species are dependent on them to survive and to put bees in an economic perspective. They basically contribute $500 billion to the world's economy each year through the global crop production that would not otherwise be there if it weren't for the bees . There's lots of other stuff that's wonderful.

For example, did you know that honeybees have been producing honey in the same way for 150 million years and it's taken us to be here to try and wipe them out. The honeybee is also the only insect that produces food that's eaten by Matt Bees . Also produce wonderful beauty treatments that have been used since Cleopatra's days.

Honey, of course, is incredibly healthy because it's got vitamins, it's got minerals, it's got enzymes, and if we didn't have bees , the variety of foods available would go down tremendously and the cost of some of what's left would search. So the irresponsibility of the Brazilian president as you can here extends over the Amazon fires, but also a willful attack against pollinators and therefore against the food that all of us consume.

I mean, what has taken hold of these people and what are they doing? There is so much there to be angry about

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

oh , as the Amazon continues to burn, I'd like to offer Costa Rica in today's department of hope. Costa Rica has done something amazing, rampant and criminal logging , just like what's going on in Brazil today. Cut It's forest cover from 72% of the country in 1950 to 26% in 1983 so illegal logging almost wiped out Costa Rica's forest. However, Costa Rica did something unexpected that it introduced a 23 year old today program of payment for ecosystem services that promoted conservation.

Magically it's forest cover is now back up to 52% so it's forest cover was cut by two thirds. Then payment for ecosystem services was introduced and the forest cover doubled, which is amazing. And it's something that's imminently copyable in countries like Brazil and Indonesia who could implement the same program enriched by 23 years of learning because the Costa Rican payment for ecosystem services program evolved over time.

So in a nutshell, Costa Rica's program bend all conversion of forests and then introduced an offer of payments to re forest as well as to protect the forest and to manage existing forests in a responsible way. And through this mix of land management, land use and payment for ecosystem services, Costa Rica managed to reverse it as far as decline .

And I think it's a lesson that can be exported very successfully to Brazil, but also to Indonesia, to Thailand, Philippines, to Vietnam, to many countries that have experienced deforestation and would like to fight back against it. On another note, I don't understand as those of you who listened to episode 19 now , why a huge health warning is not slapped on every single petrol and diesel powered bus everywhere in the world.

I honestly do not understand that given the walking health risks that these buses are. So I designed my own suggested draft warning label for Gasp bumps everywhere. So where you fill your car for diesel buses, for petrol, fuel buses for cars. You can also put this warning label on planes, on ships that use super dirty fuel. You can even put it on plastic.

And the reason we should put these warning labels everywhere is because citizens can then consider the consequences of their choices and do so in an informed way. And that's because climate change is a huge public health issue. And here is how I suggest this warning label should read. So it's one of these big boxes with orange at the top and an explanation mark inside a yellow triangle and it says warning in very big letters.

And then underneath it it says, use of this product leads to a serious threat to the economic wellbeing, public health, natural resources and environment of everyone on earth through increased climate change impacts including lethal pollution, loss of CIS, accelerated sea level rise longer or intense heat waves, wildfires and or droughts, stronger and more intense hurricanes and typhoons and accelerating species extinctions around the world have used this.

Warning as the picture associated with this episode on my website. And I think it's magic. You just stick it on the school buses on these powered school buses. And then just watch parents refuse to put their kids on them, stick it on public transit, diesel buses, and then just see how we will all think before stepping inside them. So imagine if it was plastered everywhere that should wake up. Everybody.

Now, speaking of buses, I was struck by what I thought was a wonderful innovation in two countries, super far apart. Indonesia in Asia and Ecuador in Latin America, in the area of plastic reuse. So at about the same time the city called Serbia in Indonesia and a city called Guayaquil in Ecuador. Both with about 2.8 million people introduced schemes whereby you can ride a public bus and pay your fair with plastic bottles. And I thought that was just wonderful.

The cues in Surabaya Indonesia are something that must be seen. People can ride for an hour on the public buses with an unlimited amount of stops allowed for either three large plastic bottles, five medium plastic bottles or 10 plastic cups. I mean isn't that great and in Guayaquil in Ecuador, 15 plastic bottles buy you a ticket on the city's bus transit system.

What we need to see is we need to see these initiatives really take over the richer countries in the world, which in the area of plastic frankly are doing a lot less than they should be doing. Starting with the United States where there is hardly any effort to do anything about plastic at a federal level and single use plastic is really only addressed in certain states and in a very limited way, very disappointing and so much more that can be done.

We should all make our voices heard for things to change. The one thing everybody can do is vote. Everyone should use their vote to effect change. You know what to do.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

thank you so much for listening to me. The angry clean energy guy this far, my hero of the week is an 11 year old activist. Her name is Lily Plat . Her Twitter handle is Lilly's plastic pickup and she is absolutely wonderful. She's an international environmental champion, a youth ambassador for the plastic pollution coalition, and she has been an activist since age nine and that's amazing.

Her campaign is about encouraging people all over the world to take litter up for one day and help make earth a cleaner place. Thank you lily, for what you do. And if you want to get involved with her wonderful effort to clean up the world, just visit our Facebook page at Lily's plastic pickup. Now contrast what Lilly h 11 has been doing for two years with my villain of the week. Japan's public finance agencies. So we have an 11 year old trying to clean up plastic litter everywhere.

And on the other hand we have Japan's public finance agencies throwing monies at countries in Asia to build more cold, but they're not only throwing money at them , they're doing it in quite an impressive way. So these Japanese public finance institutions are financing $17 billion of coal power in India, Indonesia, Vietnam, and Bangladesh.

So countries with some of the dirtiest air anywhere on the planet, but the Japanese are financing coal fired power there, which is 40 times dirtier than the cold that Japan builds at home. Now, clearly Japan should not be building any more call at home, and even more clearly Japan should not be financing call abroad.

But what makes these Japanese public finance institutions, my villain of the week is the fact that not only are they doing all that, they're also financing plans that would be illegal in Japan. These plants emit 13 times more nitrogen oxide, 33 times more sulfur oxide and 40 times more dust than what's allowed in Japan. So a very lovely cocktail of chemicals and pollution and dust that's created, especially for the Indians and the Indonesians and the Vietnamese and the Bangladeshis.

And I don't understand how these countries allow it. This really has got to end. And these lovely Japanese finance institutions are the Japan Bank for international cooperation or j the Nippon Export and Investment Insurance and the Japan international cooperation agencies . So they are Japanese public finance agencies. Can you please stop what you're doing? And Deere , India, Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Vietnam.

At a very minimum, don't allow the Japanese to build 40 times dirtier , called in your own countries than they allow themselves in their home country. I mean, come on . Can a minimum of common sense . Please prove out. Thank you on that note, have a great two weeks everyone

Speaker 2

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