This is cool. I used to read word up magazine. We did. Oh my god, Elliott Wilson's in the building. Everybody, Oh Elliot. There's only about so many people in the game that I could sit and talk to about certain things, and I don't and I could, like, you know, it's just a shorthand, right, I don't have to explain you. Remember the guy from the middle of you know exactly what I'm talking about Brooklyn. In the nineties, Elliott, how long have you been in this
game? As a premier hip hop journalist was big. He would say, I've been in the games this ninety two. I got in the game in nineteen ninety two, same year, same year. Wow, But I didn't become a big dog to what I become a big dog. A big dog. I was ninety nine, so I guess around, and then you were a big dog two thousands. I was a big dog. But I was thinking about that today earlier. I don't know what possessed this thought in my mind, but I was thinking about This is gonna sound weird to say out
loud. No, it's when people ask me, like, what are you most proud of? Okay, you know what it was? You know, I'm getting inducted into the New York the New York. Well, I'm getting a star in Hollywood Falk of Fame and then the New York Broadcast Hall of Fame. Anyway, So they were going through my little accolades and stuff, and I was just reading them and I was like, Oh, that's nice,
and somebody was like, wow, very impressive. And I was thinking to myself, you know, it's crazy because when I was young and that stuff was happening. You know, we had a lot of power when we were young, right, we were you were running up the biggest hip hop magazine. I'm on the biggest station, the only by the way, the only platform, and not just it wasn't just the only radio station. Was just the only platform to really hear long form interviews, to really see your
artists kind I don't know, just daily. It was just your daily dose of what was happening in the culture. Right. I think we had so much ambition. I think you took connect into Biggie, like what I like about you when I first met Biggie because I first interviewed him Ready to Die, Advanced Cassette, going to Arista Records, sitting and meeting him. His ambition, right, he wanted to be successful, like he made big records, he made big pop, he made one More Chance remix like he wanted.
He was an underground came but he had ambition to be bigger. He wanted to be successful. Like a lot of our guys we all came from that were underground and then we had ambition to grow and be big. Then you're now you have a jay Z, you have a nag, you have a fat Joe like well, underground kids though from York, everybody was young. Yeah. But when I was thinking about that, well, I was saying, it's like we had a lot of power. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like one of it. We had a lot of power.
And I think when when people ask me, like what are you most proud of him? Sometimes I say all the people I mentor to listen to this, but like, I'm also proud of the fact that I managed that power. Well, you know what I'm saying, I'm proud of that because I think especially integrity, right, yea with integrity and at that young age where I could have made understandably could have made some bigger mistakes in terms of managing that power. I just want it for you if you ever get caught
in that. In that ego of like I'm running the sources, I'm the king of the culture. Man. I felt like everybody had to give me the album so I could give it the mics, and if they didn't submit the album, I would be mad, Like Puffy didn't want to give me Life after Death and Time and I was going crazy, like how You're not gonna give me the albums the review because I'm at the source magazine and like,
I definitely did that. Also felt like back then as a writer, as a hip hop writer, you know, if you wrote a bad review, people may try to find you, you know what I'm saying. So I kept a little profile. People didn't really know what I look like, mart So. But I talk about it in this piece I wrote for this thing World Up Magazine, Biggie Special. But we're gonna talk about word Up. We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about I talk about how
my biggest regret was I'm talking about listening to Life after Death. Puffy's playing the album is in February, we went to bad Boy. We're in an early copy of the album so you talk about this in the article. In the article, okay, be in the music a source my dream job. I get to hear life after death pretty much a month and a half before
it comes out. That's the other good side. We would get to hear things earlier and just realizing, like momenting more problems, like oh my god, this sounds like the greatest thing ever, like how is this not gonna work? And then like at the end, people took pictures with Big, and Big had the whole broke his leg, Little SI's crippled me. Yeah, he's sitting in a chair, So we would just like stoop down and take a picture with Big. But I didn't do it because I'm like I
was programmed, like people can't know what I look like. I don't take a photo, but not regret it. I wish I should have took a picture with Biggie. So do you have a nice photo of him? Do you have any photos with Big? Not together? No? And I've been in clothes with him when you had the base blast Scully on and stuff. But that's so sad. That's one of my big regrets too, is that I didn't take a lot of pictures back then. There's so many people that
I don't have that. I had such greatpore with that. You'd have to get a real camera, like a disposable camera or something like that, which would have been terrible. Your pose, fam man, I got that. I had the picture that I used and word up I had. I have a great picture with Big. I have a couple of them. The other one's a little blurry. I haven't really used it. I'll pull it off for something at some point. I have another one it's just a little awkward.
And then I have one at a club where you don't see his face. He's to the side, but he's he's like getting a bottle of champagne. Jay sent that to me recently, so it was one that I didn't even know I had. And yeah, so I like when something pops up and you're like, oh, it's Ma and Big at the club. I'm sorry, I was at the club. I was at some kind of outdoor club where it was the one where Park came out with Big Pocket Nas. We're in the same club and you have to have this like weird, I'm
like looking like I'm nineteen. Was funny. I was like, I was at that club too, Oh my god, Oh my god, look at me. Look how cool I am? Bad. We had all shots of like photos with Biggie and photos with POC and photos of people like that. It was iconic. That's the thing. We were doing it too. Like I think we knew we were part of great moments. But to see how those moments like your interviews you know with Jay and those type of things, like how timeless they are too. It's crazy. Yeah. So we did
this united, were reunited on this, Me and Elliott did. We're both contributors on the one. This this Word Up magazine. This, Uh, what is the burbage? I'm looking for your special magazine collect issue, a collector's issue, A couple of thousands so copies and major cities. It is special. They brought this back for the anniversary and to celebrate notorious b I gazing wis it brought this back and they brought a sense of to contribute to
this Word Up, to this special edition Word Up Magazine. Yes, uh and so I wrote a letter to Big Beautiful thanks man. Elliott wrote, wrote reflections uh CJ and Tiana Wallace. Kids do you love seeing the kids? Kids? Are the kids we have? My barbecue this year, Wow was turning up. We was turning up, by the way, I've turned up with them a few times, so I put that in the letter. I was like, big, I be out here drinking with your kids. That crazy. We've turned up a couple of times. We got spic CYCJ
tonight at the party. But they're so great at meat. It's so happy when I see like I see Gianni sometimes Andre Horrell's son, and he's doing well and he's working with Rich Climbing and them over he's working with Rich Climbing sometimes. I one time I was at Childs downtown and I saw Gianni and Quincy Puff's kids. They were having dinner outside and then they shop. Is so much love. I want to like sit with them and drink with them
and be like what y'all doing? And Puffy was in the family had their own section like the part. It was crazy, but the kids like, he's so like a little baby Puff though, it's so christ he is his twin. He's like his twin. And then Puff looked like he maybe lost some weight when he first came out. I thought to myself, oh, he looks like Christian. It's the other way around for some reason. So crazy anyway, Yeah, so this magazine came out. We're all super excited
about it. What a dope moment. There's a lot of reflection going on hip hop. What are your thoughts on Hip Hop fifty? Are you hip Hop fifty out? Elliot was? It was now fifted out a little bit, But I loved it. I loved it. A lot of the great artists of the past got their looks. Man, I was. I was at the shop. That was my favorite part. Yeah, I did that. People stay until one two in the morning to watch run DMC come out
and tear it down. Like that was beautiful to me. Like I like to see people that you know best, you know, the artists of the
eighties, that's who I was just a fan right now. That motivated me, Like I always say, we did great things in the nineties because we were so ampty, like carry on tradition and like, yeah, you know, big up this music that we love, like we were it was students in the eighties and like so being in the business in the nineties, it's like and the CDs artists now, you know, because sometimes I think he gets lost in nineties being like kind of our motown eerrar like what happened before
in nineteen ninety two per se right, Yeah, and they see artists of the eighties kind of get these looks. That's what's probably the best part of all. Yeah. I loved that too, all of them getting their their moments, even even like yeah, the pioneers flat pioneers. Yeah, I saw so many pieces done until many of them. It was it was great to see the women of the culture. So that's great. I do hope that we trans this sh now to like, okay, like what's the future
look like? More so on like for sure who the fifty mcs I'm supposed to be paying attention to, like that kind of energy of like sep going of like you know, and what is it going to take to keep it going at the level or to keep growing? Ye, this Biggie lyric,
it was all a dream. So you know, you just think about how young he was because he had to be what was like twenty but when he wrote it, he probably had to be twenty three twenty four, right, yeah, gets what not said enough about him is his drive that he had and obviously Puffy was a factor in it, like the vision of like take this to the next level. Yeah on hip hop, right, we hadn't seen that before. You know, he's saying, I'm blowing up like he
thought I would. He's talking about heavy D and so on pepper and a limousine as a sign of success of putting that picture on his wall, Like, yeah, you know, you wanted to inspire and you wanted to achieve that and he did. He did azing and the impact too, Like I remember the next Excel. In the two thousands, we kept doing tribute issues the big I relevant. No, let me see there's an insert look he could do this is this is one side and then that's the other side.
That's great. Yeah, you guys can get your hands on. This is absolutely worth of getting your hands on a little legendary moment, right, Absolutely to the brands that did it right, Yes, shout out to good people, you know what I mean. Taking me back to my essence. Come on magazine, you're feeling emo. I'm about to cry. You're still you're still very relevant in the culture, and you still have you still have the ability to ruffle some feathers. What has been happening with you? And you're
in this in this pocket that you're in. I don't. I saw you somewhere where did I see you? I saw your Kalid's golf event. Yeah. I took a little snippet of that put out there. I said, I got to send it to you, and you said to me something and I did a joke of Bus, not a joke, but the reality that
busted because I think people looking like the honor is that. I think a lot of times when they mentioned pioneers or goats in this business, sway, his name comes up, your name comes up, my name comes up right as a sort of standard of media and whatever looks like hip hop media,
hip hop media, like the foundational people like that. So if you talk about who's the all time greats, our names come up, and then sometimes you know, I get my little ego bag and I want to be the best, and you know, but I was saying with age, it's kind of the analogy. The Bus has said that he wouldn't do it verses against Missy because it's somebody similarities between them and there's so much respect that I could not do that. But I feel like I'll battle anybody else to be the
greatest. You don't want to battle me don't want to do I don't want you want to do it? Elliott listen interviews Andie Martinez versus they say, they say you gonna pull a poco. You finished after that. Oh, I'll take that. I lose around. By the way, I had a random I don't even have to even they don't even have to be the big one I got. I'll bust that Jay z R Kelly joint on. I hit you with that locks puff joint. Oh love the rough knife for me? Man, you got it? Then you have some nipsies. You got
couple of Drake ones, oh many twice. By the way, Nicky cried, she'd cry. She made me cry. Pull out Nicky crying. That might be that might be for the kid, might be to go for the kid. I'll take two. You're like join Lebron. I think she's just debate who's great to be to you? That should be the only argument. Everybody else should not be included, because I say to myself, why on earth with Elliott Wilson, the guy who gets all the Drake interviews? Who
who? Sometimes I'd be like, could I get Drake? Can you come around here? One time I had to say to myself Why would Elliott Wilson jeopardize this Because I'm a dummy. I'm a big dummy. I messed up what happened though the podcast. Girl she's funny, I'm not. I don't mean I wasn't up on her at all. I know, I didn't know
about it till Drake Drake put her on. So Drake had did another little funny interview kind of thing, and you got in your family and I was just like, yeah, it's like, don't tie you doing that type of stuff. And it just didn't look cool at me. And I, you know, again, I'm making this transition of you know, I left title. I'm back in media and full throttle. So I was like, I can say some of the things I want to say, like I don't have to worry about corporate. You know, I have this job like this.
I could just say how I feel about things. But sometimes, you know, my boards come out a little harsh. So I said somebody being mid or something, and it just offended him and it just, you know, it sho because you said him on social media. That's true and I should have afforded him the grace of telling him. I felt before I took it
or decided to take it public. And that's why I apologize. Yeah, like apologies AGI your show, everybody clowned him, apologies and hip hop, you're right, I apologize why I'm saying you know better even when you go it's still really I'm trying to make it right. I had to think maybe there was something strategic going on here. That's why think some kind of mefit. To my madness, she was the case. It wasn't. And for
the record, game really just jumped out the window jumped out. But no, because I have too much freedom now to just can still like I can say whatever I want. Granted, it was your truth, that's how you felt the best you didn't like. But by the way I thought, I thought the little interview was funny and cute. I didn't think it was anything wrong with it. I didn't watch the whole thing on YouTube anymore. I don't know what happening. I only liked the little clip. The little clip.
What happened he made it take it down? I don't know there's a controversy around it. I have no comment. Did you have something to do with that? I want to say, But I think I have all this power. I don't know anything about any of this. I know want power. I have no power here. I don't know nothing about anything. I like when I see Drake being light and funny, it doesn't bother me. There was another one that he did that was funny. Yeah, it was
on a bar stool or whatever. That was when I was somebody, when he was at the strip club. No, Oh, that was funny too. That was funny. He did. Don't move that the freestyle he did. I like it. I love that he went to see gay like that, so like bestes Man, and I like Yadi's funny dry side. I gotta get I gotta get Drake back. What are you gonna do? What are you willing to do? Hey? Easy, easy, I mean disrespect, I mean an apology letter. I apologize. Man, time heals all
wounds. Man, I do, I do? I do? Like I said at this point, like you said, did you apologize to him? I've actually done six interviews with Drake. Did he reply to your apology? Un't reply. He left him on the public thing he did was after I already had apologized. He went on academics page. And that's what he claimed me about being a rolling loud and yeah, covering the kids and running around doing backstage interviews. Everybody says you shouldn't but listen, or you should.
You could do whatever you want, but what you shouldn't do is mess with somebody whose pen is that good. He's so you have dra It's like there's certain people right. I would never in my life fix my mouth to say anything crazy about fifty cent because I don't want for the rest of my life. I'm scared. And Martinez means with with no heart, with like he has, he doesn't care, he doesn't care. So nobody want to smoke with fifty I don't know why, at least don't smoke with Drake either,
because Drake is a calculated He's That's what I'm saying. He's not. He's a cerebral assassin, and I met it. I made a huge mistake. Hopefully these get resolved. I keep hope alive. I resillion person. I will continue to do great work and hopefully they will come back in my direction. We'll see how it goes. But then, as you can speak to that, though we have we love you, Drake, we have like come on intense relationship with these artists, and we go through our ups and downs.
Ye has to manage it. It's tough. Yeah. People always talk about how you down with, who you're cool with. People always are impressed at me and Jay are so cool. But there's been times where that's what I'm saying, Well, he didn't love something, and I had to be like I'm talking about back in the same thing and we had a public one. Now me and Nas you know what I mean. We drinking. I haven't spaghetti at Cartbones. I was critical Drake for this time was similar.
Why did with the Jay back in the day, I would hate when the hip our top hip hop guy wouldn't talk to the hip hop outlets. Yes, they would do the mainstream stuff and they would do cute stuff and they wouldn't sit with us. You have a valid argument in that if it's fifty cent Kanye time and I've done eight million fifty cent covers, I don't get fifty cent Kanye for ex Excel. They go to Rolling Stone. So that was I would call you. I would call Ja out of there. But
again I hit Jay behind the scenes and we would go at it. I didn't go publicly and call them out, so I should afford it. Jenna shut up to Jan. Really I was on I was. I got a job at the Source. I was supposed to sub let me back then, you always like sub let a place from somebody. That was a real nineties thing. So I was subletting for somebody in these village, for anybody. It doesn't know. It's like an Airbnb. And then no, but then the woman renigged on me. So now I'm now I'm homeless. I don't
want to go back to the projects. Janna Flashman let me sleep on her full time for like six months or something free months. So I was in Jenna Flashman's house on the Futon. I get the call from people don't know. Jenna Flashman is legendary jay Z's publicists since forever, since forever forever, and since we argued about a jay Z Beanie Seagull cover and not just Jay Honestly, you know she she's like the head of publicity, a rived,
Yes, become own mogul. Yes we love Jan Futon couch and get the call Sunday day Mace, who's not even my man like that, calls me and tell me Biggie's dead. That's why I was. I was Jan's house, why we went to the source. We had to go to work. We gotta put together a tribute package for Biggie. It's surreal to me, it's all the same thing happened to me. You gotta do the work, you gotta go. I was at I was at the club the night before. I was out the night before, and I had mad people in my
house sleeping on my floor in my living room. You know those nights. Yeah, we like nobody ever had that. Nobody knows what were doing that. You don't have like a party in your house. Everybody's drinking, eating pizza and everybody just crashes that mad thousands. It's mad people in my house. It's not mad like four or five. Like, there was people there. Absolutely. I'm trying to remember who was there. I don't know why. I remember that. You like unique, remember your unique she used to
run would up. It's like a bunch of people there anyway. So yeah, I got the call too, and the same thing. I jumped up, jumped out of bed, went right to the stage. I couldn't believe, you know, the same thing. We were just like, do you remember always say what my exaggerame when I said like we felt like damn, this hip hop kind of over, like the spirit was just so it was horrible. It was so dark. It was I was like in my dream job being at the Source magazine. I'm the music gater, I give out
the mics. This is my dream job. I'm that guy. Now Biggie's gone, it's just like it raps dead and this over. Now it's like, well, we know we got it together, and then you know, I will I loved later on being ex exceled. We're in the two thousands, and I started doing tribute issues to Biggie because Biggie was still relevant right in the culture, Like we would do these two thousand and two to two thousand and four. Every April issue, I would do a Biggie tribute and
it was selling the news stand. It would be huge. So was that your favorite time to cover your favorite because you've covered so many things and so many times. We had a two thousand Being editor in chief Exxcel, I think that's like my that's my father called my Fonzie error. That's like the cool error of like success. But I'm glad it didn't define me completely, you know, doing rap right on and then now this whole thing now being
on camera, people know what I look like. It's the total opposite of what my career was before. So since thirteen when I did Crown Live interviews and being on camera and everything's on camera. Now, this is like a whole new ten year career of people know who Elliot Wilson is, what I look like, who I am. They watch my interviews, they come, they say my full name when they see me. You know, hey,
Elliott Wilson. Hi, Elliot Wilson Martinez is a bread Yeah, like that, like the whole energy of it. So it's I love all of it. I love it. I love the fact that we're still relevant. I love the fact that we still can do great work. And yeah, you know our timeless and you know, timeless is nice. Biggie's timeless. Are you still inspired? Like what's inspiring you right now? Man? Look at as is good? Is that a hard question? It's not a hard question.
No, this is this is this is fused me seeing my work in a printed uh product, which is all school. Yeah. I was very proud of the Tyler to create an interview I did this year. I'm Gonna get you one time. Buster Rhymes cried on my show. I'm gonna find that. I'm gonna find that when you at least expect it when you hit me with that, when you hit me with the Tyler joint buster crying on. He probably doesn't even remember that story. But yeah, I have d
X very emotional on the radio too. I have pulled that on out on you. What else I got NB A young boy this year? Two point two million young boy. I had let me see demographic. I mean money back, yo, This money back YO. When I just put in the can, wasn't wasn't too shabby, you know what I mean? That's interview
to your conversation. I mean it's in the battle. It's in there that I mean, if we're talking about you know what a can you you tell the people how I was trying to get you to do a podcast eighty million years ago. Everyone's trying to do a podcast. Yeah, and then now you waiting. Now you're killing us with the podcast. What's going on with that? Congratulate? So you feel what that you're entitled to something. A little hurt, A little hurt. When I was at Title, I was
trying to get and to do a podcast. We tried because it's a different It didn't work, yes, because it's one thing to be doing a podcast. To do a podcast, Yes, I did this podcast. Be guys, I had some ship I wanted to get off and some things I wanted to talk about, So I did it your purpose, I found something that I wanted to do and then I put it in a podcast. It wasn't like, let me go just do a podcast. To do it podcast, it's different, yo. So I could drop a Nipsey and you could drop
the Lauren London. Oh my god, see see how crazy our battle would be because say, it'll be legendary. Who else couldn't even follow that? I don't know who would follow that Lauren did. People come up to me and tell me that's that's one of them ones. Lauren London was definitely one of them ones. But some of my favorite ones are not always the ones that too. Yeah, you know, there was like I had I had speaking of So I had a fifty cent one one time, right that everybody
remembered Curtis That's where it came from with am rhyme. Right, so him and Cam are fighting arguing on the radio. So everybody always thinks that's the big interview, But to me, the same day earlier. In that day, Styles styles Peak called in and him and fifty were talking live on the radio, And to me, I loved that interview more than cam than that moment. The moment that everybody's screaming about is not really the thing that I
thought was so special. I thought what I thought was special was the calmness of styles questioning fifties decision making on certain things with respect, but challenging him, and then the two of them and then Fifty defending sir. I don't know. I just thought that that it was a doper conversation to me, but it wasn't. There's another one. I also love my Burdman interview. But then the next day Burdman goes on the Breakfast Club and says, so,
I had this great Burdman interview. I feel like people could really get to know him. It's gonna be so good. They didn't really get to understand him. And then the next day he goes and says, what is it? He said, yeah, put some respect on my next day. Those are great, like you know, you ain't got the answers and all that type of stuff. Those are great interview moments. It's not as interview
right, and then moments they're like highlights. They are great interview moments, but interview like I thought about that, like I did a crown am I supposed to say something to piss somebody else and then they walk off, and that'd be a great moment Ellie Wilson pissed the person off and they walked off the stage and it would go viral everywhere. But that's not a great interview. It worked for Joe Button, he did that. He did that with
Vigos. That's true, that's true. Who else walked off? Has anybody ever walked out of an interview for you? No? No, no, I don't think anybody's ever done. But there was something else that you just said, Oh you gave me a great segue, and I didn't take it. Okay, go for it. You said, uh, Kanye, you ain't got the answers. Sway did you come at sway? Nor? Goodness? We go. We gotta go because because somebody else will talk to you
about this, it makes some damn sense out of it. Straight. Somebody got talked to you straight about this was a little baby and what's this guy right low? They do this the goat of the complex, the complex thing has something about the goat of this thing, this category. That's what it was. When I saw you at Calid's at the Callid Golf tournament, you said, which, right now, who is the there? You go, well done? Well done? You did? You say who's the goat?
And you said something. I was like, what are you talking about? I said, you like busting busy And I said, I don't want to do verses with you, but I was doing the verses all day today. So yeah, it was saying like the top media personality, top media personality or whatever, and like I feel like I was the first to kind of brand myself the goat of hip hop journalism. I think the line gets worried because and I get a little little chip on my shoulder because I feel like
what I used to do doesn't exist anymore. The magazine thing so so much now to wow now. But I feel like we used to have radio, we used to have press, we were different, but now radio people are judged like journalists against me. So that's where my little disc cannect happen sometimes. But I don't mind it with you, and I don't mind it with Sway obviously because we're all but did something happened that because something happened and I
took I did the Jordan line. I took that personally and it joined me when I saw the thing I wrote, and I took that personally, and then people got offended. It was half joking. But have you spoken Sway? Did you apologize us? All docks down? Had to be clapped me a little bit on the show. She might she should. That's her job, people. Yeah, that's that's what people. That's what she's supposed to do. Yeah. Rob Markman checked me on and we had a conversation.
He's really cool with Sway. No disrespect this way. I respect for Sway. You can't. It's twenty twenty three. You cannot come for Sway. I'm just a way. I'm coming with my own greatness. I'll do it versus where Martinez. Now, damn it. I don't care, Like, why can't someone say they feel their number one? I don't understand the world anymore. Everybody's so mad. Everybody got to be goaded like we're a little goat club, Like you're the one golden, you're the one, You're the
one of them. So then why can't I say I feel I'm gonna go or go for that and say why are you mad? People still get Mad's is why are you mad? That I believe in myself? Like what like that's what I understand, how people getting their feelings just because I think I'm better than Did you say something specific about Sway? Is that? No?
I said, And I took that personally. I did a little joke the little Jordan while everything he took on was like a this is not supposed to be negative towards me, but I'm using it as something to like God sounds myself motivate myself to I still want to do great work and I want to be the best. That's all. Just sleep Sway alone in right now. I want you to And and by the way, watch it back when Heather
watch it back on the walking was wondering what's going on with you? I was thinking maybe you were launching something that you were just trying to fire people up a little bit. People doing just start this new program Elliot Wilson Experience on Patreon. It's more like me off the cuff interview people like at the cal thing, I'm running around with a camera. No one knows Eliot has a camera. What is he doing. What's he up to? So?
Yeah, I was launching. Yeah, I didn't know that. I'll send you the clip you see if you want to keep it up there or not, I'll subscribe. What is what do I got to pay on Patricks different? What's the tier? What's the basic? I pay to see me with you at? What is the tear? I must be i'most send a t for free. But also yeah, I want to support you. Get in there with that five all the joint, all right, getting the club five to see I'm coming patre on dot com. Belliot Wilson, Yeah, just
having fun making content mabe for you. You know, I talked to I talked to you, I spoke to I'm gonna get me a goat chain tomorrow. Just get on your knives. I'm gonna just whatever by ig tomorrow out of nowhere. Talk with Elliot Wilson yesterday work enjoyed, enjoyed his new chade. Who's Who's Who's piece in the word of magazine was better yours, and
people decide back. Guys are gonna have Guys are gonna have to check out the issues because you did the letter thing though letters are emotional like you did the letter they did like and also you knew Biggie like personally, not this yes is like real, like dear big and like person I just try to think of the things that like if he was here, what kind of conversation would I have with him now? Like what would I be interested to talk to Bigger about? I would want to tell him I just had drinks with
your kids. I would want to tell him yo, Like I just would wonder would he be rhyming at fifty one? Yeah, Niles just put out all these songs, like what would you be doing? J Jay is doing this? Would you be a billionaire? Probably because you was mad smart in your young twenties, so and this and these were your people, So you know, how would that all landed? It would just be I don't know.
It just made me think of all those things, what he would think about the time time we're in and and just kind of updating him on even where I was where I'm at. It made me reflect on my own career and where I am now because it put me where I was then. So then I did a little reflection on that. But you know, that was
it. So then I just did the music generalist nerd part of like let me just really dig deep into the music and what I really feel about it, because I look in Life after Death like that's still the standard of like an album to me, Like it's still like the modern day great rap album. Like the versatility that the storytelling, he could do the bone thug style.
He can make commercial records, even hard card records, like the storytelling like Life after Death is phenomenal, and Ready to Die was great and laugh at the jumped over that, and I always joked I could make argument that more Money, More Problems is like the greatest rap song of all time, Like how do you not love that record? And when I live in Cali, now nobody believes me as I do live in calisn't even know. I put the radio on you California Radio, They're gonna play more Money, more
Problems, like despite all the drama we had. So I feel like that record like versus all perfect, Ace puff big, like momenty more problems, Like so the music itself man to make that great music that like it's still that standard. Even going back to I got Drake. I mean when we did the rap Raido, he was saying Scorpion. He was trying to do what Biggie did. He wanted to make a double album that had so many slaps on it, and like that's still the standard, so you gotta thank
big for that. I like the way you're just doing a final shout out to Drake before we go. We're gonna smoke, try to get back. We're gonna smoove this out. If I interview Drake anytime soon, which I might, don't mention me why she said, wish I might? What is going to you have a plan to he going to? What was the tour at? You put me on this? You put me in this mode. I think I'm motivating answer to really just like delivering some kick ass interviews.
You might I like to come. You think it's crazy how that there's such a standard now, like the interview, like the interviews a big deal, like the kids. Yeah, not to I try not to, try not to put myself. I don't. I don't like to play that way. Does it bother you? Do you ever regret that there's not was pre video era, that some of that stuff's not on video. Yeah, I wish it was, of course, I wish that. I wish I took more photos. There's a lot of things that I would have documented better. Yeah,
but it's okay. Everything happens as supposed to and it's still great. I got a plenty of material for the verses, so it's fine. It's no words. I'm gonna look back at what I've done. Man, I have to have some more to take. Yeah. Come, I expected a little bit. You know, you got you got, you got joints, you got joints, you got some JA joints, you got some. You got some joints. Thank you, And you got this. We got this,
thank you. We're putting this together together. And Elliott Wilson, come on, I mean it's kind of in Word Up magazine in twenty twenty three. That's pretty great. It's pretty hip hop. Wait, so where does everybody get this? Do we know? Online? Online? Okay? I think it's wise. It was all a dream. The major cities. Man has two locations in New York. I think Chicago, Detroit, La Atlanta. Atlanta's coming. Also, you know, I heard the doing a new
edition of it, extended version of this, and there's other letters. D Rock wrote a letter that I have a great d Rock interview. I'm saying that's rare ass you know what I'm saying. That's one of my favorite. Sure I dropped that D rocket interview on your kids, I'll say, you have me a little shaky right then. D rockets now. But D rock there's gonna be a new version of its coming out, I think in the end of September, and D rockets a letter in here and more content from
the state and the family, and it's beautiful and well done. The art design, everything is amazing. It was all a dream once after Elliott was by the five point one