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The Analytics Engineering Podcast

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Tristan Handy has been curating the Analytics Engineering Roundup newsletter since 2015, pulling together the internet's best data science & analytics articles. Tristan and co-host Julia Schottenstein now bring the Roundup to real life, hosting biweekly conversations with data practitioners inventing the future of analytics engineering. You can view full episode summaries and read back issues of the Roundup newsletter at https://roundup.getdbt.com. The podcast is sponsored by dbt labs, makers of the data transformation framework dbt. To reach our team, drop a note to podcast@dbtlabs.com.
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Episodes

Let's Talk About Data Vault (w/ Brandon Taylor and Michael Olschimke)

If Data Vault is a new term for you, it's a data modeling design pattern. We're joined by Brandon Taylor, a senior data architect at Guild, and Michael Olschimke, who is the CEO of Scalefree—the consulting firm whose co-founder Dan Lindstedt is credited as the designer of the data vault architecture. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Michael and Brandon explore the Data Vault approach among data warehouse design methodologies. They discuss Data Vault's adoption in Europe, its alignmen...

Nov 17, 202344 minSeason 1Ep. 54

Navigating AI Complexity (w/ Jonathan Frankle)

Jonathan Frankle is the Chief Scientist at MosaicML, which was recently bought by Databricks for $1.3 billion. MosaicML helps customers train generative AI models on their data. Lots of companies are excited about gen AI, and the hope is that their company data and information will be what sets them apart from the competition. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Jonathan discusses a potential future where you can train specialized, purpose-built models, the future of MosaicML inside of ...

Nov 03, 202346 minSeason 1Ep. 53

Career Growth in Data Roles (w/ Hubspot's Kasey Mazza at Coalesce 2023)

In this conversation with Tristan recorded at Coalesce 2023, Kasey Mazza, an analytics engineering manager on the RevOps team at HubSpot, discusses the roles of data analysts and analytics engineers, the importance of building internal data communities, and the evolving landscape of data teams. Watch Kasey's Coalescse 2023 presentation The career growth software development lifecycle . For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https://...

Oct 20, 202329 minSeason 1Ep. 56

Operationalizing Your Warehouse, Streaming Analytics, and Cereal (W/ Arjun Narayan of Materialize and Nathan Bean of General Mills)

It turns out data plays a big role in getting cereal manufactured and delivered so you can enjoy your Cheerios reliably for breakfast. We talk with Arjun Narayan, CEO of Materialize, a company building an operational warehouse, and Nathan Bean, a data leader at General Mills responsible for all of the company's manufacturing analytics and insights. We discuss Materialize's founding story, how streaming technology has matured, and how exactly companies are leveraging their warehouse to operationa...

Oct 06, 202342 minSeason 1Ep. 52

Roche's Data Transformation Journey (w/ Yannick Misteli)

Yannick Misteli is the head of engineering for the go-to-market domain at Roche, a $250 billion multinational pharmaceutical and diagnostics company. Roche was an early supporter of dbt Cloud, and Yannick helped move his team of 120+ engineers to a modern data stack. He always finds a way to push the boundaries to make a large company founded in 1896 incredibly modern and innovative. We wanted to know more about the "how" of the work—the people, process, and technology. Read more about Roche's d...

Sep 22, 202340 minSeason 1Ep. 51

The State of Databases Today (w/ Andy Pavlo)

Andy Pavlo is a professor of databaseology (he says it's a made-up word) at Carnegie Mellon and currently on leave to build his own company—OtterTune, which uses AI to figure out the settings to get the best performance out of databases. He is one of the preeminent minds on databases and a die-hard relational database maximalist. We talk about the state of databases today, why there are so many specialized databases (and if we need so many), why tuning databases is so hard but important, and how...

Sep 08, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 50

Bring Your Own Data to LLMs (W/ Jerry Liu of LlamaIndex)

Jerry Liu is the CEO and co-founder of LlamaIndex. LlamaIndex is an open-source framework that helps people prep their data for use with large language models in a process called retrieval augmented generation. LLMs are great decision engines, but in order for them to be useful for organizations, they need additional knowledge and context, and Jerry discusses how companies are bringing their data to tailor LLMs for their needs. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podca...

Aug 25, 202343 minSeason 1Ep. 49

Ramp's $8 Billion Data Strategy (W/ Ian Macomber and Ryan Delgado)

Ian Macomber, head of analytics engineering and data science at Ramp and formerly the VP of analytics and data engineering at Drizly, and Ryan Delgado, a staff software engineer at Ramp, have played pivotal roles in establishing Ramp's data team from the ground up and are spearheading the development of their comprehensive roadmap. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Ian and Ryan share insights on how Ramp's data team transformed unstructured data from contracts into valuable insights t...

Aug 11, 202349 minSeason 1Ep. 48

dbt Labs on dbt (w/ Daniel Le)

Daniel Le is the CFO at dbt Labs where he has built multiple teams. He is also the former head of FP&A and operations at Zoom, and he helped scale FP&A as the former finance director at Okta. In this conversation with Julia, Daniel shares his view as CFO on the challenges SaaS companies face and the importance of finance teams creating a holistic view of their business. Daniel gives advice to data leaders about how they can automate business processes with dbt Cloud and use self-service ...

Jul 28, 202331 minSeason 1Ep. 47

The Arc of Data Innovation (w/ Bob Muglia, former CEO of Snowflake)

Bob Muglia likely needs no introduction. The former CEO of Snowflake led the company during its early, transformational years after a long career at Microsoft and Juniper. Bob recently released the book The Datapreneurs about the arc of innovation in the data industry, starting with the first relational databases all the way to the present craze of LLMs and beyond. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Bob shares insights into the future of data engineering and its potential business impa...

Jul 12, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 45

It's 2023, and Privacy Is Now Fun! (w/ Ian Coe of Tonic.ai + Abhishek Bhowmick of Samooha)

Advances in ML have transformed data privacy from a regulatory necessity into an opportunity to improve the work of data people. Synthetic data for modeling + testing is one example of a hard thing that's now easy - and in this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Ian + Abhishek cover many other ways that privacy can actually be a skill that propels your work forward, rather than a mere legal best practice. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsle...

Apr 21, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 45

Julia, Pedram Navid + Taylor Murphy Recap Data Council

Julia just got back from Data Council in Austin, a conference organized by Pete Sonderling, where lots of startups share what they're building, data practitioners go to learn in hands-on workshops, and of course investors go to spot the next big trend. In this episode, Taylor Murphy (Head of Product & Data at Meltano) + Pedram Navid (Founder, West Marin Data) join Julia to recap the conference and have a bit of fun. They talked streaming, how the MDS is growing up, new SQL variants, and, of ...

Apr 07, 202342 minSeason 1Ep. 44

Cloud Warehouse Cost Optimization (w/ Niall Woodward + Brad Culberson)

Brad Culberson is a Principal Architect in the Field CTO's office at Snowflake. Niall Woodward is a co-founder of SELECT, a startup providing optimization and spend management software for Snowflake customers. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Brad and Niall discuss all things cost optimization: cloud vs on-prem, measuring ROI, and tactical ways to get more out of your budget. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https:...

Mar 24, 202346 minSeason 1Ep. 43

dbt Labs + Transform Join Forces on Metrics (w/ Nick Handel + Drew Banin)

Nick Handel, as co-founder at Transform, helped develop the popular open source metrics framework MetricFlow. Drew Banin, a co-founder at dbt Labs, helped build the initial version of the dbt Semantic Layer, which launched last year. Transform was acquired in February by dbt Labs, and in this conversation with Tristan, they talk through their collective plans for the future of the dbt Semantic Layer. For full show notes and to read 7+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, h...

Mar 10, 202343 minSeason 1Ep. 42

What Can Generative AI Do for Data People? (W/ Sarah Nagy + Chris Aberger)

Sarah and Chris are both at the forefront of bringing the promise of gen AI to our actual work as data people—which is a unique challenge! Precise truth is critical for business questions in a way that it's not for a consumer search query. Sarah Nagy is the CEO of Seek AI, a startup that aims to use natural language processing to change how professionals work with data. Chris Aberger currently leads Numbers Station AI, a startup focused on data-intensive workflow automation. In this conversation...

Feb 24, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 41

3rd Party Data, Demystified

Auren Hoffman currently serves as the CEO and Chief Historian at SafeGraph, a data-as-a-service company he founded, which provides primarily location data. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Auren shares how truly few companies are making use of 3rd-party datasets today, how opening up more datasets to public research could help us solve big problems, and a fun fact about Abraham Lincoln's (!) work in the industry. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast'...

Feb 10, 202345 minSeason 1Ep. 40

A Romp Through Database History (w/ Postgres co-creator Mike Stonebraker + Andy Palmer)

Mike Stonebraker is a veritable database pioneer and a Turing Award recipient. In addition to teaching at MIT, he is a serial entrepreneur and co-creator of Postgres. Andy Palmer is a veteran business leader who serves as the CEO of Tamr, a company he co-founded with Mike. Through his seed fund Koa Labs, Andy has helped found and/or fund numerous innovative companies in diverse sectors, including health care, technology, and the life sciences. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Mike an...

Jan 27, 202348 minSeason 1Ep. 39

What Does Apache Arrow Unlock for Analytics? (w/ Wes McKinney)

Wes McKinney is the creator of pandas, co-creator of Apache Arrow, and now Co-founder/CTO at Voltron Data. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Wes takes us on a tour of the underlying guts, from hardware to data formats, of the data ecosystem. What innovations, down to the hardware level, will stack to lead to significantly better performance for analytics workloads in the coming years? To dig deeper on the Apache Arrow ecosystem, check out replays from their recent conference at https:...

Jan 06, 202347 minSeason 1Ep. 38

Minimum Viable Experimentation

Product experimentation is full of potholes for companies of any size, given the number of pieces (tooling, culture, process, persistence) that need to come together to be successful. Vijaye Raji (currently Statsig, formerly Facebook + Microsoft) and Sean Taylor (currently Motif Analytics, formerly Facebook + Lyft) have navigated these failure modes, and are here to help you (hopefully) do the same. This convo with Tristan + Julia is light on tooling + heavy on process: how to watch out for spil...

Dec 16, 202246 minSeason 1Ep. 37

The Data Generalist's Vision Quest (LIVE w/ Stephen Bailey)

The first LIVE IRL episode! Stephen Bailey, data engineer at Whatnot and writer of an incredibly entertaining data substack, joins Tristan for a follow-up conversation to Stephen's Coalesce talk, "Excel at nothing: how to be an effective generalist." You can read Stephen's writing at https://stkbailey.substack.com/ . For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https://roundup.getdbt.com. The Analytics Engineering Podcast is sponsored by ...

Dec 02, 202227 minSeason 1Ep. 35

Why You'll Need Data Contracts (w/ Chad Sanderson + Prukalpa)

WARNING: This episode contains detailed discussion of data contracts. The modern data stack introduces challenges in terms of collaboration between data producers and consumers. How might we solve them to ultimately build trust in data quality? Chad Sanderson leads the data platform team at Convoy, a late-stage series-E freight technology startup. He manages everything from instrumentation and data ingestion to ETL, in addition to the metrics layer, experimentation software and ML. Prukalpa Sank...

Nov 18, 202249 minSeason 1Ep. 34

How Does Data Drive Growth in Practice? (w/ Abhi Sivasailam)

Abhi is a growth and data leader, and an excellent Twitter follow. Most recently, he was Head of Growth and Analytics at Flexport, where he helped the company to grow 10x over the past 3 years. Previously, Abhi led growth and data teams at Keap, Hustle, and Honeybook. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Abhi explains his methodology for setting up a new growth data organization, and how you might be falling victim to the dreaded "arbitrary uniqueness" bug. For full show notes and to rea...

Nov 04, 202250 minSeason 1Ep. 33

Katie Bauer: Data Scientists Are Not Pizza

Katie was a founding member of Reddit's data science team and, currently, as Twitter's Data Science Manager, she leads the company's infrastructure data science and analytics organization. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Katie explores how, as a manager, to help data people (especially those new to the field!) do their best work. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https://roundup.getdbt.com . The Analytics Engineeri...

Jul 29, 202243 minSeason 1Ep. 33

Data Activation Everywhere (w/ Julie Beynon of Clearbit)

As Head of Analytics at Clearbit, Julie serves as a data team of one in a 200+ person company (wow!). In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Julie dives into how she's helped Clearbit implement data activation throughout the business, and realize the glorious dream of self-serve analytics. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https://roundup.getdbt.com . The Analytics Engineering Podcast is sponsored by dbt Labs....

Jul 15, 202244 minSeason 1Ep. 32

The Personal Data Warehouse (w/ Jordan Tigani of MotherDuck)

Jordan Tigani is an expert in large-scale data processing, having spent a decade+ in the development and growth of BigQuery, and later SingleStore. Today, Jordan and his team at MotherDuck are in the early days of working on commercial applications for the open source DuckDB OLAP database. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Jordan dives into the origin story of BigQuery, why he thinks we should do away with the concept of working in files, and how truly performant "data apps" will requ...

Jul 01, 202252 min

Making Sense of the Last 2 Years in Data

Matt Bornstein and Jennifer Li (and their co-author Martin Casado) of a16z have compiled arguably the most nuanced diagram of the data ecosystem ever made. They recently refreshed their classic 2020 post, "Emerging Architectures for Modern Data Infrastructure" and in this conversation, Tristan attempts to pin down: what does all of this innovation in tooling mean for data people + the work we're capable of doing? When will the glorious future come to our laptops? For full show notes and to read ...

Jun 17, 202247 min

Building an Open Source Company (w/ Aaron Katz of ClickHouse)

ClickHouse, the lightning-fast open source OLAP database, was initially released in 2016 as an open source project out of Yandex, the Russian search giant. In 2021, Aaron Katz helped form a group to spin it out of Yandex as an independent company, dedicated to the development + commercialization of the open source project. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Aaron gets into why he believes open source, independent software companies are the future. And of course, this conversation would...

Jun 03, 202239 minSeason 1Ep. 29

"To Move, or Not to Move" (Data). That is the Question.

Justin Borgman is the co-founder, Chairman and CEO of Starburst, and has almost a decade spent in senior executive roles building new businesses in the data warehousing and analytics space. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Justin dives into the nuts and bolts of Trino, the open source distributed query engine, and explores how teams are adopting a data mesh architecture without making a mess. For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newslette...

May 20, 202240 minSeason 1Ep. 28

What's The Role Of AI in BI?

Amit Prakash is Co-founder and CTO at ThoughtSpot. He has a deep background in search, having previously led the AdSense engineering team at Google and served on the early Bing team at Microsoft. In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Amit gets real about the promise of AI in data: which applications are being widely used today, and which are still a few years out? For full show notes and to read 6+ years of back issues of the podcast's companion newsletter, head to https://roundup.getdbt....

May 06, 202245 min

Automating Away Your Work w/ Configuration-as-Code (w/ Sarah Krasnik)

Most recently leading a data engineering team at Perpay, Sarah has built and managed data platforms end to end by working closely with internal engineering, product, and operational teams. She recently left her role to pursue a wide variety of endeavors, including writing on her Substack ( https://sarahsnewsletter.substack.com/ ). In this conversation with Tristan and Julia, Sarah dives into how configuration-as-code can automate away data work, why you might want to consider adding a data lake ...

Apr 22, 202244 min
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