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The Adoption Files

Ande Stanleypodcasters.spotify.com
The Adoption files seeks to provide a place for adoptees and allies to discuss the laws preventing adoptees from accessing their identities, and the emotional and physical challenges adoptees face in the process of dealing with the obstacles we face. We recognize the need to expose the problematic aspects of the adoption industry and the narrative they perpetuate.
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Episodes

The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption Episode 6 with co-host Lynn Grubb and guest Rebecca Dragon

Please join us as we talk with Becca Dragon about her blog article The Cult of Adoption and the cultural adherence to the adoption narrative. Becca is an adoptee rights advocate, a writer and the creator of a series of Tiktok videos. She can be found at: @GuaranteedHappy AdopteeTM @mythsmisgivings on FB and IG www.mythsmisgivingsmadness.wordpress.com Lynn is The Adopted Genealogist on FB and IG Mentioned in the show: https://youtu.be/POVRCjgv0Io Adopted People Have Two Birth Certificates https:/...

Mar 30, 20231 hr 12 minEp. 6

AB 1302, a California bill that would further diminish California adoptee rights

A new bill from Republican representative Lackey would make adoptee access to original birth certificates in California even more difficult- something that seems almost impossible to imagine. Please contact state legislators and the governor to voice your opposition. Below are links to find the legislators and the governor, as well as links to Adoptees United and Bastard Nation. These last two track adoptee rights related legislation on the state and federal levels. https://leginfo.legislature.c...

Mar 19, 20234 min

Insufficient and deficient; a comment on adoption cruelty

Part of the BITE model of cult like behaviors is the teaching that the family is deficient. I realize in the recording I use the word insufficient. I considered deleting the original version, re-recording and moving on from this embarrassing word substitution. Then I thought about the definitions of each word. Insufficient means not enough, inadequate. Deficient means not having enough of a specified quality or ingredient. Both have at their root the word facets; to do or to make. Both seem rele...

Mar 13, 20235 minEp. 6

The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption Episode 5 Andrea Coates

Please join us as we speak with non-adoptee and Licensed Clinical Social Worker Andrea Coates, who is also a DNA search angel and adoptee advocate. Andrea is a therapist with Greenhouse Counseling. Adoption Therapy | Counseling at The Green House | Indianapolis Indiana Kentucky Texas Massachusetts Wisconsin (greenhouseindy.com) Lynn Grubb can be found on social media as The Adopted Genealogist. The Adoption Experience | a podcast by Lynn Grubb (podbean.com) Mentioned in the podcast: Cult Expert ...

Mar 13, 20231 hr 19 min

Lynn and Ande interview Emma Stevens for episode 4 of The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption, a therapy episode

Emma Stevens is a U.S. domestic adoptee from birth and has survived layers of trauma that have put her on multiple journeys. She developed the inner strength and courage to surmount the many struggles she faced. Her traumas were born from first being relinquished and then becoming an adoptee who struggled with being forced to wear an impossible mask playing the part of the "good adopted child." Emma is the author of two memoirs. Her work can be found at: Amazon.com: The Gathering Place: An Adopt...

Mar 03, 20231 hr 5 minEp. 4

Realid

The ongoing saga of one adoptee with a foreign birth certificate, issued more than a year after their birth, attempting to obtain a Realid. Tune in for more of this ridiculous tale!

Mar 02, 20238 min

The cult-like Aspects of Adoption Episode 2 pt 2 with guest Greg Gentry

Part 2 of Lynn and Ande's conversation with Greg Gentry. Mentioned in the show: Roe v. Wade: Decision, Summary & Background - HISTORY Read Justice Alito's initial draft abortion opinion which would overturn Roe v. Wade - POLITICO Judaism and abortion: like any other topic, abortion is one argued about in Judaism. Some hold that it is prohibited, but not until a certain stage of pregnancy. In some cases abortion is allowed only to preserve the life of the mother. The guiding rule is that abor...

Feb 28, 20231 hr 7 min

The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption with Lynn Grubb and guest Greg Gentry Pt 1

Please join the hosts as they have a conversation with Greg Gentry about the beliefs and attitudes that inform the adoption narrative, and the almost cult-like belief that people have in that narrative. In this episode and in part 2, we discuss with Greg the (absence of) scriptural support for adoption. Greg Gentry is a domestic adoptee. He has a Masters in Theological Studies Lynn Grubb works in the legal field and as a volunteer with CASA. She is known as The Adopted Genealogist on FB and IG a...

Feb 19, 202352 min

Intro to The Cultlike Aspects of Adoption with Lynn Grubb and Ande Stanley

Join us as we discuss with our guests the attitudes and beliefs that influence the adoption narrative and the almost cultlike belief that people have in that narrative, no matter what adoptees may be saying about the flaws in adoption. Beliefs influence law, and until we can change the beliefs that underpin the practice of adoption, changing laws will be difficult. Some resources mentioned in the show: Podcasts: A Little Bit Culty, Mark Vicente Steven Hassan's BITE Model of Authoritarian Control...

Feb 15, 202353 min

Interview with Marilyn Huff

Marilyn Huff is an ally and advocate for adoptee rights. She is one of the founders of the Facebook group The Search Co-op, and is working on creating a database of the state laws that allow the retention of original birth certificates in adoptions. Mentioned in the episode: Debunking Reasons for Birth Certificate Revision: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yAmvXE48P-fL3hz3ZZsWsNhkuCgjx65pDcKDz9YI5ws/edit?usp=sharing State Code Birth Certificate Revision Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.co...

Feb 13, 20231 hr 37 min

Interview with Beth Figuls

Beth Figuls is a Baby Scoop Era California adoptee. California is nortoriously difficult to obtain original documents from. Please join us as we talk about how Beth obtained her identifying information. California adoption laws: Adoption Records (ca.gov) ICWA: Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) | Indian Affairs (bia.gov) Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA): Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) | Indian Affairs ALMA: As far as I can ascertain, this organization no longer exists. Perhaps it does under another n...

Dec 01, 20221 hr 27 min

Interview with Daphne Keys

Daphne Keys is a Baby Scoop Era Maryland adoptee. Please join us as we discuss Daphnes attempts to obtain her identifying documents, the recent efforts by Maryland adoptees to pass legislation guaranteeing access, and how taking up quilting has been a source of therapy. Mentioned in the show: Baby Scoop Era: a period from 1945 to 1973 where a high rate of adoptions took place in the United States. Shame and coercion were common characteristics of this period. Similar practices occurred in other ...

Nov 18, 20221 hr 45 min

A Talk about the Different Types of Adoption, with Paige Adams Strickland and Renee Gelin

Please join the host as they talk with domestic adoptee and author, Paige Adams Strickland and Renee Gelin, mother and one of the founders of Saving Our Sisters, about the different types of adoption common in the United States( and a lot of other places). Paige is the author of two adoption memoirs and has contributed to several anthologies. Her books can be found at: Amazon.com: Paige Adams Strickland: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle. She blogs at: Akin to the Truth: A Memoir of Ado...

Nov 05, 20221 hr 49 min

Interview with Rich Clark

Richard Clark is a screenwriter and film music composer. He was born and adopted in the state of Hawaii. Rich can be found on Twitter at @RCSoundworks Mentioned in the interview: Hawaii Adoption Law: Hawaii Original Birth Certificates | Adoptee Rights Law Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE): Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) | VitalSigns | CDC The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM): Psychiatry.org - DSM Department of Defense(DOD): U.S. Department of Defense Foreign Bi...

Oct 28, 20221 hr 8 min

Interview with Mary Ellen Gambutti

Mary Ellen Gambutti is a South Carolina, Baby-Scoop Era adoptee. She is the author of numerous pieces in literary magazines, and the author of several books, including: I Must Have Wandered: An Adopted Air Force Daughter Recalls, Stroke Story, My Journey There and Back and Coming to Terms: My Journey Continues. Her new memoir, I must have wandered, can be found at: https://books2read.com/ap/ngkMkl/Mary-Ellen-Gambutti She can be found at : https://megam-author.com, https://www.linkedin.com/in/mar...

Oct 21, 20221 hr 24 min

interview with Annie Oxborough

Annie Oxborough is a New Zealand Baby Scoop Era adoptee. She is the author of the newly released book Where the Fuck is my Mother, illustrated by her brother Sparrow Phillips, a New Zealand artist. Annie can be found at: annieo.co.nz https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083122489253 and insta handle https://www.instagram.com/the_adopted_girl/. https://www.amazon.com/Where-Fuck-My-Mother-grown-up-ebook/dp/B0BCQX87RC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1H2DEYSIRAGHH&keywords=where+the+fuck+is+my+mother&...

Sep 30, 20221 hr 29 min

Interview with David Lang

Please join me as I speak with David Lang, an adoptee from the state of Connecticut. We talk about pursuing identity prior to the changes in Connecticut law in July of 2021, family surprises, and transporting cremains across an international border. David can be found on Twitter at: @Revintheair Mentioned on the episode: Connecticut Adoption law: Adoptions and Foreign Births (ct.gov) Catholic Charities: The Catholic church has been very active in facilitating adoption. If you were adopted throug...

Aug 07, 20221 hr 21 min

Non Adoptee/ Adoptee Conversations: You were adopted a long time ago. Why are you still talking about it?

Please join me as i speak with: Lynne Miller, Late Discovery Adoptee and writer at the blog adopteerevelations.com Laureen Pittman: adoptee, author of the Lies that Bind Andrea Coates: adoptee ally, search angel and LCSW Lynn Grubb: adoptee, adoptee advocate, author of Hidden Identity Plenary Adoption: plenary adoption, as practiced in many places including the United States, is a form of adoption that terminates the relationship between an adoptees family and the adoptee. Records are usually se...

Jun 25, 20221 hr 29 min

Interview with Dr. Kristy Howell

Dr. Kristy Howell is an adult adoptee in reunion. She was born and adopted in the sealed state of Mississippi. She is a Sustainability expert and trained historian. Kristy can be found at @kwittman on twitter and on instagram. Mentioned in the show: Mississippi adoption laws: adopteerightslaw.com ISRR: International Soundex Reunion Registry: International Soundex Reunion Registry - ISRR This used to be one of the few resources available to adoptees hoping to find family. Today, DNA testing has l...

Jun 18, 20221 hr 32 min

Interview with Renee Gelin, founder and president of Saving our Sisters

Please join me as I speak with Renee Gelin, mom of a son lost to an unnecessary adoption. She is also the founder and president of the organization, Saving our Sisters. Renee and I discuss her experience with the adoption industry, which motivated her to advocate for other women in crisis. Renee is an avid ally of adoptees as well. Renees' organization can be found at savingoursistersadoption.org Saving our Sisters works to assist pregnant women in making informed decisions about their pregnanci...

May 22, 20222 hr 5 min

Non-Adoptee/Adoptee conversations: a talk with Andrea Coates about respectful dialogue

Andrea is a licensed clinical social worker. She is also a search angel with the Search Squad. Andrea was one of the first people I interviewed when I began this podcast. A non-adoptee, or Kept person, Andrea has devoted a great deal of energy to an intentional exploration of adoptees lived experience. Through countless hours of reading adoptee memoir, blogs and articles; listening to podcasts and viewing recordings, and via her work as a search angel, Andrea has worked to become informed and to...

May 20, 20221 hr 30 min

Interview with Laureen Pittman

Laureen Pitman is a Baby Scoop Era adoptee, born and raised in the closed state of California. Laureen is the author of the memoir The Lies that Bind. She is active in the adoptee community, writing for her blog adoptionmytruth.com, participating in roundtables like The Red Couch Rebuttal, contributing to the anthology The Adoptee Survival Guide, and in other projects. Mentioned in the podcast: California Adoptee Access laws: adopteerightslaw.com Adoption Records (ca.gov) Please be aware that ea...

May 08, 20221 hr 31 min

Adoptee Access and the state of Vermont

A thank you to those who worked so hard on behalf of Vermont adoptees, and a plea to see other states follow their lead. Vermont is only the eleventh state to allow adoptees access to their original documents.

May 02, 20228 min

Advertising for Babies

The host delivers a short rant on the awfulness of advertising for babies. Contact your legislators if you live in a state where independent advertising for children is allowed. Use the convenient map provided by (the enemy), at Our Chosen Baby. Just google States where advertising for babies is allowed.

May 02, 20224 min

In the Market

This episode is also available as a blog post: https://theadoptionfilescom.wordpress.com/2021/11/17/in-the-market/. A brief talk about white, grey and black market adoptions, the situation with Ukraine, and a disturbing list of the twenty easiest places to adopt. Disclaimer: the host is jot a lawyer. The hosts opinions are just opinions, even if she did look this shit up and finds it highly offensive. People! People are being taken from their families by opportunistic child “ resourcers” and sol...

Apr 24, 202223 min

Open Adoption: what is Open Adoption?

The host of the podcast talks briefly about what Open Adoption is, and is not. Have thoughts on the topic? Please comment on the blog at theadoptionfilescom.Wordpress.com

Apr 20, 202218 min

Lynn Grubb, the Adopted Genealogist, interviews the host of The Adoption Files

Join the host, Ande Stanley, as they are interviewed by Lynn Grubb. We talk a bit about my experience as a UK adoptee, and a lot about the complexities of pursuing our identities. Lynn Grubb is the editor of the Adoptee Anthology, The Adoptee Survival Guide. She is the author of the memoir Hidden Identity. She is The Adopted Genealogist on Facebook. Her memoir can be found in podcast form at: theadoptedgenealogist.podbean.com Mentioned in the show: UK adoption law: In England, adoptees 18 or ove...

Apr 17, 20221 hr 34 min

Interview with Victoria Bond

Victoria Bond was born and adopted in the state of Kentucky. Please join us as we talk about the difficulties of applying for documents in a closed state, and how Victorias experience motivated her to become a Search Angel for other adoptees. Victoria is a small business owner as well. She can be found at Made by Victoria: https://www.facebook.com/madebyvictoriabond Mentioned in the show: Kentucky adoption law: Adoptee search brochure.p65 (ky.gov) Adult Adoptees in Kentucky • Original Birth Cert...

Apr 10, 20221 hr 43 min

Arguing with Experts

The host does a bit of ranting about the many reasons given for denying adoptees access to our documents, including the rationale that adoption is not a trauma, and biology can be transgressed.

Apr 04, 202214 min
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