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The ACO Show

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The ACO Show brings you the latest in the movement that’s transforming American health care. Co-hosts Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh from Aledade, the largest network of independent primary care, share their conversations with experts and leaders across the health care industry - from leading policymakers and researchers to staff and practices on the front lines. Subscribe and listen to learn about how independent primary care practices are leading the movement to a value-based health care system. The ACO Show is an independent production of Aledade.
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Episodes

191. Road Show Reflections with Farzad Mostashari, M.D. and Mat Kendall

Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Mat Kendall, president, join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss their recent road trip to primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. They examine how conversations around accountable care organizations (ACOs) with primary care physicians have evolved over the past 11 years — from basic definitions to in-depth discussions about the economic impact for practices. They also challenge common reasons physicians don’t want to join ACOs, i...

Jul 07, 202519 minEp. 191

190. The Rising Cost of Skin Substitutes with Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol

Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol join us to explore the rising cost of skin substitutes in wound care, which Aledade data suggests is a tenfold increase in the last three years. Dr. Fife explains that rising costs are due to an increase in both cost of the product and increased usage and she addresses the real concerns such as the way many skin substitutes are exempt from FDA review, offer rebates or discounts to clinicians and how some Medicare payment models incentivize the use of...

Jun 09, 202527 minEp. 190

189. Do ACOs Really Save Money? Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar Explain

Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar join us to discuss the long-term savings of accountable care organizations (ACOs) in the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP). Their recent study in JAMA found that ACOs generate increasing savings over time, with physician-led ACOs demonstrating more significant savings. Learn about their study’s methodology, policy implications for The Centers of Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and where Dr. Bond and Dr. Khullar will focus their research next. Con...

May 27, 202524 minEp. 189

188. Natalie Davis on Why You Shouldn’t Talk about Value-Based Care

Natalie Davis, CEO of United States of Care, joins us to talk about the challenges of discussing value-based care with patients and policymakers. Through extensive research with over 30,000 individuals, Davis shares that the term "value-based care" often evokes negative connotations of low-quality care. When presented with the benefits of value-based care without using the term itself, people were most interested in spending more time with their doctors and receiving personalized, quality care. ...

May 19, 202522 minEp. 188

187. Behavioral Health Care Accessibility

A majority of those with behavioral health challenges lack access to high-quality care. Gabe Diop, co-founder of Rula, a behavioral health physician group, joins the ACO Show to discuss how Rula is making behavioral health care more accessible by partnering with primary care practices to connect patients with the care they need. Dr. Samantha Cotler, family medicine physician in Wall, N.J., explains how her partnership with Rula has improved patient outcomes and made it easier to connect patients...

Apr 21, 202526 minEp. 187

186. How International Medical Graduates Help Ease the US Physician Shortage

The U.S. faces a significant shortage of primary care physicians, particularly in rural and under-resourced communities. Join Eli Greenspan, policy advisor at Foley Hoag LLP, and Dan Bowles, general manager of Practice Health Solutions at Aledade, to highlight the role that international medical graduates play in addressing this shortage. They explain the complex process that international medical graduates must complete to practice in the U.S., and how the physician shortage is connected to imm...

Apr 07, 202520 minEp. 186

185. Crossing the Chasm in Value-Based Care with Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Geoffrey Moore

Aledade CEO, Dr. Farzad Mostashari, and best-selling author Geoffrey Moore explore how the concepts in Moore’s influential book, “Crossing the Chasm” can be applied to accelerate adoption of value-based care. In order to move to mainstream adoption, it’s crucial to focus on the niche market of “pragmatists in pain” who have an urgent need that the current system isn’t solving. Our co-host Sean Cavanaugh, chief policy officer at Aledade, points out that oftentimes in the traditional fee-for-servi...

Mar 20, 202530 minEp. 185

184. Bias and Equity with Artificial Intelligence in Health Care

Join us this episode as our guests from Aledade, Dennis Liubyvyi, Director of Artificial Intelligence (AI) Research, and Jette Henderson, Staff AI Researcher, explain the world of AI and machine learning and its potentially transformative impact on health care. Dennis shares how AI models at Aledade are reshaping patient care by analyzing vast amounts of patient data to predict critical health events such as kidney disease progression and congestive heart failure. The goal is to provide more tim...

Mar 10, 202520 minEp. 184

183. Cardiology and Value-Based Care

Dr. Sameer Sheth, President and Co-Founder of Chamber Cardio, joins Josh and Sean to discuss the opportunities and challenges for specialists, particularly cardiologists, in transitioning to value-based care. Dr. Sheth notes that cardiologists have traditionally been slower to adopt value-based care because of a lack of financial incentives, but an increasing drive to remain independent is pushing more cardiologists towards value-based models. Dr. Sheth shares how he and Chamber Cardio are worki...

Feb 24, 202522 minEp. 183

182. Patient and Caregiver Experiences in Value-Based Care

Join Melanie Phelps, Senior Advocacy Advisor for Health System Transformation at the American Heart Association (AHA), to discuss her recent research which explores the impact of ACO-driven value-based care from the patient and caregiver perspectives. Melanie explores the overwhelmingly positive results of the study, which found that patients and their caregivers experienced better care, better support, and better patient outcomes as a result of their clinicians’ participation in an ACO. Dr. Jul...

Feb 10, 202526 minEp. 182

181. Nursing in Value-Based Care

Value-based care is a team effort, and nurses play a crucial role in coordinating care to achieve better and more efficient patient outcomes. Jacqueline Nikpour, Assistant Professor at the Emory University School of Nursing, and Kathy Samhammer, LPN at Cedar Ridge Family Medicine, join us to discuss the role of nurses in primary care, and how practices can maximize nurses’ contributions in the shift towards value-based care. Kathy’s role includes managing chronic conditions and preventing hospit...

Jan 27, 202522 minEp. 181

180. Transforming End-of-Life Care with Comprehensive Advance Care Planning (CACP)

Comprehensive Advance Care Planning (CACP) supports individuals in understanding and sharing their values and goals for medical care at the end of life. Kerri Petrin, Vice President and Head of Operations at Aledade Plus, joins us to explore how the CACP program allows patients and their loved ones to have guided, personalized conversations with clinical facilitators and generate legal documents so that patients and their care teams can make health care decisions that align with the patients’ va...

Jan 13, 202525 minEp. 180

179. From Residency to Value-Based Care: Lessons from Aledade FIRST

Graduates of the Aledade FIRST Program, Dr. Boone Marois and Dr. Breanna Heard-Pinho, reflect on their experiences in the program and how it helped prepare them to practice value-based medicine. Dr. Heard-Pinho, Family Medicine Physician in Vicksburg, Mississippi, shares how Aledade FIRST taught valuable practice management skills, as well as held in-depth discussions of value-based care not taught in traditional residency programs. While Dr. Marois, Family Medicine Physician in Asheville, North...

Dec 30, 202419 minEp. 179

178. Challenges and Opportunities in Caring for Dual-Eligible Beneficiaries

In this episode, Sean Cavanaugh and Josh Israel discuss the complexities of caring for patients who are dually eligible for Medicare and Medicaid. They are joined first by Melanie Bella, whose prior roles include former Director of Indiana Medicaid, Director of the CMS Medicare-Medicaid Coordination Office and EVP at Cityblock, and are then joined by Aledade’s Mohamed Arif, and Lahila Pitts. They explore the unique challenges these patients face, including fragmented care and high social needs. ...

Dec 16, 202429 minEp. 178

177. What’s New for ACOs in 2025?

Casey Korba, Director of Policy at Aledade, walks us through regulations that were announced along with the 2025 CMS Medicare Physician Fee Schedule, including updates to the Medicare Shared Savings Program. Casey and our host Sean Cavanaugh, who is the former Director of the Center for Medicare, explain policy changes that will support value-based care, including changes to payments for some preventive care services and a new health equity benchmarking adjustment. While there is bipartisan supp...

Dec 02, 202425 minEp. 177

176. Healthcare During a Devastating Hurricane

In this episode, we sit down with Traci Spence, the Chief Operating Officer of Blue Ridge Community Health Center in Hendersonville, North Carolina. Traci shares her experience managing a health center during a catastrophic hurricane that left the region without power, water, or infrastructure. Despite these overwhelming challenges, Traci and her team found creative solutions to continue serving their community in the midst of chaos. This conversation highlights themes of improvisation, communit...

Nov 18, 202423 minEp. 176

175. The HCP LAN Summit: Building Partnerships for Progress

Join Dr. Judy Zerzen-Thul as she explains how the Health Care Payment Learning and Action Network (HCP LAN) brings together clinicians, health systems, and payers in a partnership aimed at transitioning from fee-for-service to value-based care models. Dr. Zerzen-Thul is the Chief Medical Officer at Washington State Health Care Authority, and Co-Chair of the LAN Executive Forum. She discusses how value-based care is progressing across different sectors, including common barriers like data exchang...

Nov 04, 202420 minEp. 175

174. Community Resilience: Healthcare in the Wake of Hurricane Helene

In this episode of the Aledade ACO Show, hosts Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh speak with Brenda Fore from the East Asheville Family Health Care Clinic and Ashley Austin from Aledade about the impact of Hurricane Helene on their community. They share firsthand accounts of the challenges faced when clinics lost power and water, and how healthcare providers adapted to continue serving patients amidst the chaos. Discover the power of improvisation and community support in times of disaster.

Oct 28, 202421 minEp. 174

173. Public Health Unpacked: Inside DC Health

In this episode of the ACO Show, host Sean Cavanaugh and Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, sit down with Dr. Ayanna Bennett, Director of DC Health. They dive into the multifaceted role of public health, discussing everything from community health initiatives to tackling local challenges like pest control. Dr. Bennett shares her journey from private practice to public health leadership and emphasizes the importance of health equity, data, and community connection in improving health outcomes. Listen...

Oct 14, 202429 minEp. 173

172. The Road Show Part 2: Independent Practices in Hospital-Dominated Communities

In this episode of the ACO Show, hosts Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh recount their summer road trip, along with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, part 2, visiting primary care practices across America. From camping in Moab to meeting health care leaders in places like Glenwood Springs, CO and St. George, UT they explore the diversity of value-based care primary care delivery. The episode highlights how communities, large and small, benefit from strong primary care systems and previews exciting epi...

Sep 30, 202434 minEp. 172

171. The Road Show: Cross-Country Reflections on Primary Care

In this season premiere of the ACO Show, hosts Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh recount their summer road trip, along with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, visiting primary care practices across America. From camping in Moab to meeting health care leaders in places like Mexico, Missouri, and Salina, Kansas, they explore the diversity of value-based primary care delivery. The episode highlights how communities, large and small, benefit from strong primary care systems and previews exciting episodes f...

Sep 16, 202431 minEp. 171

170. From the Value Summit: Innovations in Value-Based Primary Care

Join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh in the season finale of the ACO Show, recorded live at Aledade’s North Carolina Value Summit. They engage with three primary care physicians—Dr. Wayne Haga, Dr. Mark McNeill, and Dr. Art Apolinario—about their success in value-based care and how they are using their increased revenue to improve patient care. Submit your questions, comments, or episode ideas to acoshow@aledade.com

Jul 22, 202428 minEp. 170

169. 10 Years of Aledade: The Evolution of Accountable Care

Dr. Farzad Mostashari, CEO of Aledade, is joined by Dr. Mark McClellan and Bob Kocher to reflect on the past decade of health care reform, and the early days of Aledade and accountable care organizations (ACOs). Dr. McClellan, director of the Duke Margolis Institute for Health Policy at Duke University, discusses the evolution of legislative policy, sharing how bipartisan efforts led to the integration of shared savings models into health care policy and Bob Kocher, chairman of the board of Aled...

Jul 08, 202439 minEp. 169

168. The ACO Flex Model Explained

In this episode, Sean Cavanaugh and Dr. Josh Israel sat down with Travis Broome, Aledade’s SVP of Policy and Economics, to understand CMS’ new ACO Flex Model. Whether you're a healthcare professional or simply interested in the future of healthcare policy, this episode provides a comprehensive look at the ACO Flex Model's potential to transform care delivery. Travis explains how this new model can drive innovation in healthcare by addressing cash flow challenges and offering upfront payments. We...

Jun 24, 202429 minEp. 168

167. Navigating Medicare Advantage

From understanding the fundamentals to exploring new innovations and challenges, join us as Dr. Efrem Castillo, Senior Vice President for Medicare Advantage at Aledade, shares his experience with Medicare Advantage. Dr. Castillo explains the nuances for both patients and providers, including benefits beyond traditional Medicare, network limitations, utilization management, and the STARS program. Dr. Castillo also explores the recent growth in MA and new innovations, while emphasizing that interv...

Jun 10, 202421 minEp. 167

166. Treating Obesity: New Medications, Old Challenges

From navigating insurance barriers to addressing the stigma, this episode dives into timeless issues surrounding obesity treatment, as well as the promise and challenges of new medications like Ozempic. Josh and Sean are joined by Dr. Darrin Menard, a family practice physician in Scott, Louisiana, who shares insights from his personal experience with weight loss alongside his professional expertise. While new drugs offer significant weight loss potential, Dr. Menard underscores the crucial role ...

May 27, 202426 minEp. 166

165. State Health Policy: Prior Authorization and Arkansas’ Gold Card Bill

Dr. Lonnie Robinson from Regional Family Medicine in Mountain Home, Arkansas explains the challenges surrounding prior authorization faced by both practices and insurance providers, and how this inspired him to become involved in state health policy advocacy. Hear how Dr. Robinson, drawing inspiration from Texas’ “gold card” approach, worked with Aledade’s policy committee and state legislators to pass similar legislation in Arkansas to reduce administrative workloads. Submit your questions, com...

May 13, 202421 minEp. 165

164. CMS's Medicare Strategy Unpacked

Join our hosts along with Dr. Farzad Mostashari on this episode as they dive into CMS's update on the Medicare value-based care strategy. From discussing alignment and growth to equity in healthcare, they provide insights and suggestions for the future of accountable care. Read the update here: Update On The Medicare Value-Based Care Strategy: Alignment, Growth, Equity Submit your questions, comments, or episode ideas to acoshow@aledade.com...

Apr 29, 202426 minEp. 164

163. Navigating the Health-Tech Nexus: Insights from Aledade’s Leaders

Explore the dynamic landscape of healthcare and technology with hosts Josh and Sean on the ACO Show. Guests Rosemary Weldon and Ritwik Tewari, from Aledade, share their expertise as they discuss the challenges and innovations shaping the industry, including the advancements in technology that help improve patient care.

Apr 15, 202427 minEp. 163

162. CHC Spotlight: Community Health Center, Inc. in Middletown, Connecticut

Join us for a story tracing the origins and evolution of Community Health Center, Inc. Mark Masselli, president and CEO of Community Health Center, Inc. in Middletown, CT, alongside Charles Barber, Writer-in-Residence at Wesleyan University, guide listeners through the enthralling narrative depicted in Barber's book, "Peace & Health." Explore the beginnings of the Health Center amidst the backdrop of social upheaval, legislative reforms, and grassroots advocacy, illuminating the transformati...

Apr 01, 202424 minEp. 162
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