TA Ep. 169 Juraj Kocar - Wyze Earth and the Healing Power of Adaptogenic Mushrooms
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Leigh Ann: Okay. Well, you're right. Welcome back to the Crescent podcast today. We have you on to talk about a whole new different brand. And I think it's going to be kind of exciting because as you alluded to in our chat before recording, you have a little bit of your own personal story to add to this aside from just us getting to be able to sit down and break down all the amazing components of this new product.
But before we dive into Wyze Earth and. All of the benefits of these products. Let's kind of rewind and go. What, what brought you here? What lights you up? What inspires you about these products? And yeah, a little bit of your story with that.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah, definitely. So first of all, thank you. Thank you for, for having me. Thank you for the, for the invitation. You know, uh, since, since 2012, you know, I'm, uh, since my. Personal like health transformation when I was going through some difficulties and [00:01:00] then had to, you know, find my own way, uh, my own healing journey journey.
And I realized that the doctors would not help me, you know, this, uh, you know, this transformation, this personal transformation, uh, led me on the, on, on the health and wellness journey where. After after this transformation, I said like, yeah, this is something that I would like to do this path, you know, like helping other people as well on their healing journeys.
At that time, I didn't know how that would manifest. But, uh, yeah, a couple of years after that, uh, I, I joined Somovedic, built, build the company up, uh, now about two months ago, uh, it was pretty successful in the biohacking and health and wellness space and, uh, and yeah, and then about two months ago I, I left it to, uh, you know, pursue this, uh, for me, like [00:02:00] super exciting journey with, with WiseEarth because I see, uh, So much, uh, so much amazing stories, but, uh, but potential, especially, you know, for the, for the U.
S. audience.
Leigh Ann: I love that. And tell us, give us kind of this introduction then just like a broad overview of why's earth, who are they? What are they? And then I think we're going to get really deep into some of the specifics of the ingredients, the products.
Juraj Kocar: Sure, sure. So, you know, a couple of months ago, I started to, uh, started to dive a bit deeper into adaptogenic mushrooms. Uh, you know, that are used in traditional Chinese medicine for, for, for, uh, Thousands of years. And there are some, some, uh, known pretty known companies in the U S like mud water or, or for that, that, that use them.
But the more I was diving deep. [00:03:00] into them and learning more about they're very unique and, and, uh, amazing, uh, properties. Uh, the more I was, you know, drawn to them, like, yes, this is, this is what I would like to do next. I would, that I would like to work with this, uh, with these adaptogenic mushrooms to, to also create something, something beneficial for, for people, but more on the, uh, the companies that I mentioned are more like, like lifestyle.
I wanted to. Uh, companies and I'm using both, uh, their products, but I wanted to go a bit, a bit deeper, more on the healing journey. So, so yeah, I was diving deep, deep, uh, into these, uh, leptogenic mushrooms and basically no one knew, no one knew around me, uh, that, uh, just, just two people, uh, that this, this is the path that I would like to go.
And then all of a sudden, uh, you know, like a guy [00:04:00] reached out to me and he said, Hey Uri, would you like to meet? I have some interesting product, uh, and, uh, if, if I would help him to, uh, you know, to enter the U S market, uh, you know, I was like busy with my, my, my own things and, and, you know, wanting to start this, but I said, okay, let's let, let's meet.
And, uh, you know, when he mentioned that, uh, you know, I have this, uh, this honey that we are infusing with adaptogenic mushroom extracts. This like pretty much blew me away because all of the because of the synchronicity, you know, I I was basically working on something in my mind that the path that I would like to go and then Someone you know out of nowhere approaches me Hey, you're I like we have this product.
It's, uh, it's, it's in the Czech Republic. So, so it happened in Prague. So, [00:05:00] uh, we have this product. It's, uh, it's on the market for almost two years. We have more than the, at that time, more than 20, 000 customers.
Leigh Ann: Oh,
Juraj Kocar: We have amazing healing stories. And, uh, I've heard that, uh, you grew a company in, in, in the U S so if you would like to, like, I'll help us.
And so, so there were two, two parts in, into this where I said like, yes, definitely yes, because I was personally interested even, even before, as I mentioned, and then he, uh, shared the story with me, the story of how, uh, He, how he founded the company, which is, which is a bit, bit sad story. Uh, but you know, this, this amazing thing came out of it.
So he mentioned that a couple of years ago, uh, he lost his [00:06:00] sister because of cancer
Leigh Ann: Mm.
Juraj Kocar: which was really. Cause they were really close and she didn't tell anyone, they just found out, uh, and when it was too late and she was already in hospital and the doctors just called them, uh, just, just come here and you have to like, say goodbye cause, uh, it's
Leigh Ann: Oh, wow.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah, so it was this sad story and then unfortunately she died and it, it affected him quite a lot. Yeah. And sometime after that, he, you know, he had a business partner with some other endeavor, and he got more and more into talks with him. And he just on a side note, like shared with him that he, his business partner, uh, healed himself from [00:07:00] stage four cancer just through by adaptogenic mushroom extract.
Leigh Ann: Wow.
Juraj Kocar: And so this Was like super interesting for him because he was grieving because of his sister. And now, you know, someone mentions like something like this. So they started, you know, working together, uh, on the product to make like a business out of it. Cause he was just like helping people around. It was not like a business. And so he said that with the company, he would really like to help people. So they would not be experiencing or going through with them or with the family members whatever he was experiencing.
Leigh Ann: Mm hmm.
Juraj Kocar: Because, you know, the adaptogenic mushrooms are the best fighters of [00:08:00] inflammation and inflammation and chronic inflammation is the root cause of many illnesses.
So, so this is how this is how we started the company. And when he shared the journey with me. I immediately knew that, uh, yeah, this is, this is what I want to do. This is, this is where I want to help.
Leigh Ann: Oh, that's amazing. What a profound story to, you know, when these come out of need, really, so many of these beautiful founders of these smaller companies, that's what's fueling it is a need in their own life that whatever traditional medicine wasn't filling or solving, whatever was currently on the market wasn't filling or solving, and so they went.
Found the solution they needed, which is pretty profound.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, you know, so, and, and then on, on top of that, uh, I was already [00:09:00] convinced, uh, you know, because of what, what I studied, what, what I found out and because of the story, and then he started, uh, you know, sharing this, this really profound healing stories with me. You know, how people, I'm not sure how much, uh, I can share, but we'll, we'll edit it.
We'll see how, you know, uh, how, how people got healed from various cancer types, you know, from lung lung cancer, you know, ovarian, uh, tumors, even brain tumors, like various cysts that, that started to, to disappear. Of course it was helping also on, uh, let's say with, with, uh, you know, not. Not so let's say, uh, not as dangerous, uh, like, like, uh, illnesses, but, but he shared mainly with me, you know, this, this, this profound, profound healings.
And, and I've seen the [00:10:00] text messages and I've seen, seen the emails. And, uh, yeah, this was for me, it was, it was a no brainer.
Leigh Ann: Yeah, well, let's dive right in and because I want to spend time really helping people understand why this isn't just another jar of honey on the shelf. There is so much more to it, but we might also need to backtrack to just for any who aren't familiar. What, what are the products? I also want to do a little bit of a definition of adaptogenics, just in case anyone's not familiar with that term.
Let's start there, maybe just a broad overview of what the products are. And then we'll start to get into some of the nuance.
Juraj Kocar: Sure. So, so let's first, first, you know, go into what are the adaptogenic mushrooms. So it's a special kind of category of, of mushrooms that need to basically fulfill three main things. They have to [00:11:00] be non toxic, uh, non, they have to have non specific effect. toxic, uh, And, uh, and also normalizing effect. So what does it mean?
What does so non toxic means that you cannot overdose with them, which is pretty significant, you know, like you, they are pretty, pretty much safe to, you know, eat them in, uh, in, in higher doses, uh, non, non specific, uh, non specific that mean non specific, you know, like area that, that means that. For example, when you have a drug, you have it for like a headache or joint pain or stomach problems or whatever.
So this drug is very specific and the adaptogens are amazing in that way. They have this non specific effect [00:12:00] where Because they are, you know, helping lowering the, the inflammation in the body, they have various effects, uh, you know, universal effects on the body. That means they can help with, with sleep, with energy levels, with, with blood pressure, with, with stomach problems.
And, and you would take just one and whatever, you know, whatever, there's a, there's a problem in the body. it will, it will work on that. So this is like the non specific. They are not designed specifically for one, let's say, niche.
Leigh Ann: Mm hmm.
Juraj Kocar: uh, and then the normalizing effect means the third one is that they are like bi directional.
Uh, so for example, if we take again, if we take [00:13:00] ashwagandha, for example, or cocoa beans, so re and the relationship to our nervous system. So during the evening, we take it to calm us down, uh, like cocoa or ashwagandha, but in the morning when we take it. It, uh, it's, we take it because we want to feel more energized and we want to have more energy.
And it's the, the same thing, but it has different effect on our nervous system. So for example, if your nervous system is too, let's say pumped up, it will, it will It will calm it down and when it needs a boost, it will boost it. So you can see, you know, based on these three things that they are like really, really unique and, and universal.
So these are what we, the, the, the mushrooms have to have these, uh, three things
Leigh Ann: Mm hmm.
Juraj Kocar: to be [00:14:00] in the adaptogenic mushrooms category.
Leigh Ann: What I want to point out in this and kind of echo back is one, when I think oftentimes, at least here in America, when adaptogens are talked about, it's talked about specifically for the nervous system, but even more specifically as like calming, calming, um, benefits, you know, take adaptogens to calm your nervous system.
And so I want to take a second to point out the distinction you made here is. Adaptogens are actually even more versatile than that. They're able to help your nervous system do what it needs to. Sometimes for many of us, that is calm down. And then sometimes in other cases, in other times of the day, it's actually to ramp it up.
As someone who, me personally, The free state is like my nervous system's default stress response go into the free state. It's really appealing to hear, oh, okay, this is something that [00:15:00] actually can help my nervous system come out of that shutdown. But that's the whole thing is there's almost, um, a knowing or an intelligence to these adaptogens that they're able to give the body what it needs.
And then I also really want to point out the huge anti inflammatory benefits, because again, adaptogens are mainly talked about in terms of the nervous system and regulating the nervous system, not, not for their anti inflammatory benefits, which to your point, when something is so anti inflammatory, that can impact every single system of the body,
Juraj Kocar: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You're you're right there. So, you know, and there's a There's epidemic of chronic inflammation in the u. s. It's the number one health problem. And of course, uh, It is caused by you know stress lifestyle food, uh toxins from from environment like all of that [00:16:00] and You really have to change like everything but on the way on the way there You You can use, you know, these helpers, these adaptogenic mushrooms to, uh, to help you, uh, you know, uh, basically to lower the, really the, the, the inflammation in, in the body.
And, and not only we, but we have like great results with it, but the adaptogenic mushrooms, they, they been through, you know, gold standard studies. That means.
Leigh Ann: right?
Juraj Kocar: Double blinded, uh, you know, placebo control study, uh, so, so, and there are like hundreds of, of them, uh, for specific, uh, you know, for specific, uh, adaptogen.
So, so this has been proven by science and at the same time, you know, they are used for thousands of years in various cultures, especially in traditional Chinese medicine. [00:17:00] And so why, you know, we put them into honey? So
Leigh Ann: This was literally the next question I was going to ask is why put them in honey?
Juraj Kocar: yeah, you mentioned, uh, you know, so that this is this amazing journey. So, uh, this amazing honey.
So I like to think about it, that it's not. Like it is of course honey because it has the most volume. It's not like honey with adaptogenic mushrooms But I like to think of think of it as those are adaptogenic mushrooms first put into there are put into honey You know like infused in honey, but of course there's that's a big jar.
It's full of honey. But the reason for that is it's Improving the taste because they are a bit, you know, earthy and bitter which which is you know for some people that's fine But I also like some things a bit sweeter. So that's the but that's the first thing [00:18:00] but the more important thing is the Improvement of bioavailability when you put the adaptogenic mushrooms in the honey.
So the, the sugar in the honey serves as a, you know, as a, as a delivery, as a, as a medium. Uh, and it absorbs the, the nutrients and, and, uh, you know, better glucose and all of that. And so it, uh, the body is, uh, is able to absorb it, uh, you know, more, more, uh, efficiently. So it's improving the, the bioavailability.
So those are. You know, the, the two main, uh, main factors why, why we use honey.
Leigh Ann: And honey has so many benefits by itself as well. You know, it's a
Juraj Kocar: Yes, yes, definitely. You know, honey, uh, as you know, with, uh, with lots of herbal [00:19:00] medicine that we have books on honey. Itself has, uh, you know, various health, health benefits for, for pain or when, when you, uh, when you have, uh, scratch yourself or, or for, uh, you know, for stomach and stomach problems. So, so yes, and they even found uh, in, uh, you know, in a tomb in, in Egypt and they, uh, and they tried it.
It was, uh, it was, you know, really hard, but, but they tried it and it tasted, you know, like great. It was so, so honey is, you know, like a super conservative in
Leigh Ann: Oh,
Juraj Kocar: case, yeah, in case it's, uh, Uh, you don't put anything in, into honey, like, like butter or, or I don't know what if there's a honey, you know, just by, by itself, then it, it, it can last for thousands of years.
Leigh Ann: Yeah. It will never go bad. So it's a [00:20:00] natural non toxic preservative too, in a ways. So you guys have, there's three main, there's three products. And I want to talk a little bit about When to use what is this the kind of thing where you're really recommending people just choose one or can you mix and match?
You've got the longevity, the heart flow, and then the detox. And I'd love to sit with each of these a little bit, particularly the detox because there's some really cool ingredients in there. I'd like to get to, but yeah, if we can spend a sec on the three products, how they're meant to be used, can we mix and match?
Give us all the
Juraj Kocar: Yeah, definitely. So, so for those who, you know, we'll, we'll see it on, on, on a video. So this is the, this is the, the, the longevity and. there are seven various adaptogenic, uh, mushrooms we decided to go, you know, for the most, uh, most potent one, like, uh, [00:21:00] Chaga, Reishi, Cordyceps, uh, Shitake, Mitake, and, and, and others.
And, so this, this one, uh, together with the detox. Uh, is the one that, you know, I would call like, uh, essential starter kit. Cause detox, you know, obviously in current environment, there's not enough of detoxing of our body. So, so the, the longevity or the heart flow, I would always combine with, with detox. So the, the longevity there, there are, uh, Adaptogenic mushrooms only then we have the, then we have the heart flow, which is designed, uh, you know, for, uh, cardiovascular health.
That means it it's working, you know, the, the, the ingredients, uh, are [00:22:00] improving the blood flow, uh, lowering the, uh, lowering the, the stress on the veins and on the heart, you know, so, so it has, uh, it's lowering the, the, the physical stress on the cardiovascular system at, you know, and, and at the same time, it's able to lower the cholesterol.
Optimize the, the blood pressure, blood pressure, and we have, you know, like great, great, great results with that. So that's, you know, that's, that's the heart flow. Uh, it's, it's pretty good. It's almost pink, you know, like, like with the, like, uh, like blood and then heart. And then we have, uh, you know, then we have the detox, which is, there's like, like tumor turmeric extract, like tour Marine black pepper extract, uh, you know, and, and the herb that is, uh, you know, like, uh, [00:23:00] specifically it has antibacterial and antibacterial.
Paracetic like properties?
Leigh Ann: Is that the sweet wormwood?
Juraj Kocar: Yes. Sweet work. Exactly.
Leigh Ann: And then the elderberry. So that has, does that have the adaptogens in it too?
Juraj Kocar: Uh, n no, not the detox. Not the detox, the detox one. It's, it's, uh, you know, it's, it's this one. So the detox there are only like, uh, herbs. Well, in case if we would consider like a turmeric, uh, uh, adaptogen, then, uh, which it is then yes, it has one adaptogen, uh, turmeric or, yeah, Turin. And, and then there's, uh, you know, this, uh, sweet wormwood, uh, then the, the black pepper, which is, uh, significantly in increasing, you know, the bioavailability and the efficacy of, uh, of turmeric, [00:24:00] uh, by almost
Leigh Ann: Okay.
Juraj Kocar: And there, there are even, there are even stories how people that were using just Like turmeric extracts got rid of some, some, you know, serious, serious health problems. So the funny thing is, or the interesting thing is on, uh, with, uh, with, with the detox, when you start taking it on a daily basis. So one spoon is enough.
So one spoon a day of each, and you can combine them as, as, as, as you want one. So when you will be taking the one spoon of the detox a day. Uh, you will s You will even like smell the detox coming, uh, from your skin pores, uh, you know, so you will just smell, like smell, smell the detox. It's, it's, it's interesting.
I, [00:25:00] I've, I've, uh, was able, you know, to experience it and lots of our customers. So just a small heads up. It's nothing, uh, you know, not that. You wouldn't be able to go to work or something, but, but you will, you will definitely like smell it a bit that there's like an Detox process going on in the body.
Leigh Ann: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we know we expel a lot through the skin. I wonder too, you know, I do the sauna. So I wonder if that paired with sauna kind of helps things come out even quicker,
Juraj Kocar: Yeah Definitely definitely. So, you know one of my favorite things how to how to detox except of course like like sauna our Blend and and some other techniques is you know uh doing like NMS, which when I was, when, when I was around 2012, had some [00:26:00] serious health problems with blood pressure, cholesterol, brain fog, all of that.
That was what like significantly like help, helped me. So, uh, you know, I, from time to time, I, I definitely recommend, uh, you know, to, to, to, to try it. Anyone that has never done it, just, you know, what, some YouTube, YouTube videos and yeah, don't be afraid. And I, uh, after that, you will definitely feel the huge difference in your, in your head, in your brain.
It's some, it's something like. A light bulb will, will, would light up in your, in your head, how all of a sudden clear your mind.
Leigh Ann: It's, it's so funny because I didn't, I didn't even know the story of the founder of Wyse Earth and why he created it, that his sister had passed from cancer. I work with cancer patients every day from an emotional perspective, looking at potential emotional contributors [00:27:00] to illness, to cancer. But with that said, this is all going to be right up in their alley because Most of the cancer patients I'm working with are taking a more integrative, holistic approach.
So coffee, enemas, the supplements, the sauna, all of this is like such, you know, well tread paths for them. But it's, I, I love being able to share new products that of course always are non toxic, but also impactful and well sourced and intentionally created.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, you know, we, for example, regarding the honey, we, we specifically, you know, We're very diligent from who we will be, you know, sourcing it from. So there's a, uh, you know, there's a, like a beekeeper that, uh, in, in Czech Republic, the, that, that has these, these bees and taking [00:28:00] good care of them and they are just flying freely around and they just feed in nature, you know, so in, in the woods and on the field.
So. It's a super, you know, clean and, and healthy honey from, from central Europe. And, uh, and regarding the, regarding the, the extract. So, 'cause my, my partner was in the, so we are sourcing them from, from, from China, uh, and uh, because. Because he, you know, found a company that is producing these extracts for, for, for Japanese companies from, from companies from, from Canada, even for, for cosmetic companies. And they use really like high potency extracts. So the usual, the, the industry standard ratio is, uh, approximately eight, eight to one, that [00:29:00] means, uh, from, uh, let's say eight grams of, uh, of, of mushrooms, you get one gram of, of a powder extract. And, uh, you know, our extracts have the ratio of 25 to one.
Leigh Ann: Okay.
Juraj Kocar: means they, they have like, they are like super high, high potency.
And the, the task that. The TCM masters were given, uh, to design these blends. 'cause, 'cause they are the ones designing the what, uh, you know, herbs and adaptogenic machines will go into, into each of the blend. And, uh, and also where, where the difference is that the ratio between, uh, between the, the adaptogenic mushrooms, you know, so between them, so it's. So that is also like a specific, specific thing and unique that came, they [00:30:00] came up with in order to, uh, you know, to get the, get the most out of it.
Leigh Ann: So this was going to be one of my questions is why, why would someone want to take this product over something like Four Sigmatic, like Mudwater? And that's not to bash those brands. I love Four Sigmatic. I drink their coffee all the time, but I think that's going to be everyone's first question is they might be like, Oh, well, I, you know, I have fit for Sigmatic in my cupboard or I have some other like adaptogenic blend, why would they want to go consider this over some of those?
And it sounds like one of those reasons is the amounts of the adaptogenics might be much higher.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah. So that, that, that's a great question. And the, the most straightforward answer would be, or the most important thing would be that our products, uh, in Asia would be considered as a product. as a [00:31:00] medicine, you know, if you would go to a doctor for a specific health problem, you know, they would give you our blend as a medicine, you know, for this and this problem.
So, so of course they are not, they cannot be categorized, uh, such a way in Western
Leigh Ann: Yeah.
Juraj Kocar: medicine. But, uh, but they still do the work. So, so I, again, I also, uh, you know, love, well, Mudwater and Four Sigmatic, but they are, they are more of a, you know, like a, let's say lifestyle things, or if you want to have a healthier version of, of coffee or alternative to coffee.
Leigh Ann: Mm hmm.
Juraj Kocar: you really want, If you really, you know, need some like a health push or you are struggling with some, with some health issue, uh, then this would be, you know, [00:32:00] this would be, our products would be way to go because, uh, you know, So currently we just launched in, in the U S but, uh, you know, we have more than 30, 000 customers, uh, in Europe.
And as I mentioned before, we have like some really amazing results with, with the product. Uh, and I have to, and I have to say that most of the people that, uh, got back to us, they didn't change, uh, anything else, they just added, you know, this product, so, We are almost a hundred percent sure that, that, uh, you know, the, this is the, this is, this is the outcome of, uh, of, of, of like use using the product.
So, so I would say this is, this is the, this is the main difference.
Leigh Ann: Mm hmm. A little bit of what I hear in that is, and I, I also, empathize with you because I know we can't use these words, but it's sort of like the difference between there's supplements you take just [00:33:00] for general everyday wellness and then maybe there's Supplements you take for treatment that are much much higher dose meant to actually treat something Although legally you and I both know we can't use those terms That it's a treatment for illness.
That's kind of how we're comparing. This is, um, this is something you want to think of when I am actively trying to recover from something. I'm in an active diagnosis. You really want to up the game and take something that's way stronger than just something that is meant to be taken in small doses every day.
Juraj Kocar: yes, exactly. Uh, yeah, you you've got that that exactly right and And that doesn't mean that uh, you know, it's not for you know for people that are like healthy Uh, you know, I I I love it. You know, I Uh, you know, I just use it, use it every day. And, uh, soon we will launch a new product that is [00:34:00] specifically designed, you know, for high performing like athletes and managers and whoever needs a more, even more, uh, like a energy boost and it will be based mainly.
Uh, there will be some other like herbs and other pachinko mushrooms, but it will be mainly based on, uh, uh, Asian ginseng and cordyceps. So So, and, and it's not only for, you know, energy, but, uh, it's also for, you know, uh, let's say, uh, libido and sexual problems.
Leigh Ann: Yeah. Well, to that point, they, they have such a wide array of support. I love what you're, I can't wait for that product to come out because already I'm like, Ooh, you know, it's such a great option to be able to just have a little spoonful of this. Really, really nutrient dense honey versus a cup of coffee or whatever it is that we're going to, you know, for me in between clients in between in my [00:35:00] little work breaks throughout the day
Juraj Kocar: Yeah. Yeah. I was, uh, yeah, yeah, exactly. So, so, sorry to interrupt. I was just, I just got back from a conference in Boulder. Uh, it was a heel conference, uh, organized by Gaia. And, uh, you know, I had, uh, I had the honey in backstage. Uh, where, where all the, all the speakers, uh, where, where all the speakers were.
And, uh, you know, I, I knew one of the, one of the speakers and she was telling me, you know, stories that, that, uh, they were so like hooked on the honey and every time they were supposed to go, uh, you know, after a long day on, on the stage, they, they took a spoon, you know, to, you know, get the, get the ener energy and then mood up.
So. So, uh, yeah, it was, it's, it's definitely, you know, uh, it improves like mood and energy and among course amongst other things.
Leigh Ann: Yeah. Oh, I'm so excited for that to come out on the market. So to, to kind of circle [00:36:00] back, they're meant to be taken like in a spoonful each day. I actually think it says that on the jar. So that's pretty straightforward. But I do want to circle back just for clarity that I have it up on my screen here.
I'm looking at them for someone who is, let's start with someone who's in an active diagnosis of some kind, whether that's cancer or chronic illness, or it might even be someone who maybe you, you know, just had a car accident and your body is really needing a ton of extra healing. Um, I guess I got a little broad there, but from what I understand from what we've talked about, where someone, particularly in a chronic illness state, might want to start is with the longevity blend and the detox blend.
Juraj Kocar: Yes. Yes. Those would be exactly, those would be the one to, to go for. Usually one spoon is a day. If you would take two, then, then it's fine. So one jar, uh, the, the longevity, that that's a big one that, uh, uh, that should be for about three months. Yes. So [00:37:00] one, 100, 100 doses, so one, one spoon a day and, and, uh, with the, with the detox as well.
So one, one spoon a day to get the most, really most benefit out of it, just put it directly into your mouth. Uh, you know, don't put it into like smoothie or, or, or tea or coffee, even though you can, and I, I do like it to have it, uh, have it in the coffee, but, but really, if you just, uh, you know, want to be, just get the most out of it, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's the best, uh, Mainly, um, I mean, mainly if, if someone is struggling with, with a health problem, this is the way I would, uh, I would recommend it, you know, just, just, uh, you know, take some time and, you know, just, just, uh, uh, just have it on like a, like a, like a spoonful.
Leigh Ann: Yeah, well, and you know, having been through my own early stage cancer journey [00:38:00] myself and working with so many cancer patients, there are so many supplements that they are taking throughout the day. So actually I think for a lot of them, the thought of being able to just like have a spoonful of honey as one of their supplements that is so nutrient dense is probably a relief versus all these capsules.
They're having to swallow all day long and something I wanted to point out in what you said Because I know people are you know gonna be Discerning of this is the law that longevity jar like you said is really large It's a three month supply and it's only a hundred dollars, which actually works out to only thirty three dollars a month Which when it comes to supplements?
In the U. S. that is really affordable for supplements.
Juraj Kocar: yeah,
Leigh Ann: And I think that's worth pointing out because sometimes, you know, anyone who might go on initially goes, whoa, 100 for a jar of honey. But of course, as we've spent this whole 40 minutes talking, it's much, much more than a jar of honey and it's going to last you three months.
Juraj Kocar: [00:39:00] yeah, yeah, exactly and you know, some, uh, you know, when, um, I was just, just, uh, in, in LA, like shooting some in studio podcast and, and, you know, the questions, uh, the questions were around like cancer and, uh, and, and sugar. Uh, you know, so, and so which some people might ask, like, this doesn't go together, but according, you know, our experience, it's actually working with the honey, at least with the honey.
I'm not talking about, uh, you know, uh, the, the,
Leigh Ann: Processed sugar.
Juraj Kocar: prostate sugar, exactly. But, so this actually goes together pretty, pretty well. Uh, and Also, uh, for, uh, people with diabetes. So we had, uh, one person that, uh, put it into, uh, uh, into tea, like a one spoon of honey, he put it into tea and he was sipping it throughout [00:40:00] the day.
That one spoon. And in about like three to four months, he was able and his, his wife actually told us that, that she was like really amazed by that. He was able to lower his, uh, you know, like, uh, insulin intake by almost like 80%,
Leigh Ann: Oh,
Juraj Kocar: which is like, that's like a, Really, really significant because, you know, you cannot almost like cure that and, uh, just by, you know, taking the, the, the, the honey infused with other genic mushrooms, they have so profound effect on the, on the inflammation and how, uh, you know, the, the body responds to this, that, that, uh, he had, you know, this, this significant improvement.
Leigh Ann: Yeah, that's so profound. Are there any other testimonials that you're, you know, allowed to share? And if not, we can cut it out. But I know that's, it's so inspiring to hear those. Or we can throw in whatever disclaimer we need to.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah. [00:41:00] Uh, yes, yes, I, uh, I, I have, I have one that, so, uh, there's, uh, uh, there's, uh, a guy that's doing, uh, you know, like autopsies and, and he's basically, you know, I'm not sure what's the specific, the correct word, but. When someone dies, he, you know, like doing the, not the surgery, but the autopsy or, or, uh,
Leigh Ann: I think autopsy's right. Or he's the one who maybe prepares it for burial.
Juraj Kocar: yeah, when he's, uh, when he is trying to, uh, find out, you know, why, why that person died
Leigh Ann: Yeah, autopsy I
Juraj Kocar: or autopsy. Yes. So he's, uh, he's doing autopsies for most of his life and he found out that. That he has five cysts in, in, in his body and one, uh, on his, uh, like pancreas. And he knows, he knew that this is something [00:42:00] that's, that's almost impossible, you know, to operate because he knows the body in and out.
And so he knew that, that. There's no way how, you know, how this could be, you know, like, uh, operated or something. So he started to use the honey and after three, yeah, it was, it was three months, he, he gave us a call. He, uh, you know, he called, he called Daniel and he told him, Hey, that, Hey, I have, you know, these papers, these confirmations from, from doctors from this January.
And from this March and on one, there's this, that I have five cysts, et cetera, et cetera. And on the other one, uh, that I have only one cyst from the five and the one, uh, shrink like 90%.
Leigh Ann: Oh, wow, oh my
Juraj Kocar: four of them totally disappeared. And, [00:43:00] uh, you know, and the fifth one almost is, is, is almost gone. And he said, you know, his lifestyle is, is not that, let's say great.
But again, that was the only thing that, that he, he added. So, and for him as a, you know, Let's let's call him a surgeon that it was also like a miracle for him. What what happened? So we have, uh, you know various of these Testimonials we have some some others as well. But what I would like to share is a bit more You know like a bit bit sad story when Uh, when, you know, it's a, it's a successful story in terms of the healing, but in terms of the relationship with the doctor, it's, it's a bit sad because we, we have a lady that was able, you know, that didn't want to do the chemo, which was purely her decision and she wanted to go a different, different road.
So she started. [00:44:00] taking the, you know, the honey and, and then she went to doctor and, uh, you know, the doctor was able to see that, that the, the tumor was shrinking and drying out. It was like this, dismantling and drying out.
Leigh Ann: Wow.
Juraj Kocar: And, but he, you know, he told her, You know, whatever you are doing, just, you know, keep doing it.
But, uh, you know, I, I don't want to know, you know, so not, not that he would be interested. Oh my God, what are you doing? Uh, he just wanted to, you know, totally be, be out of that. So, yeah, that's, that's the, that's the current health system. But, uh, luckily, you know, we have people like you and, and some other holistic, you know, practitioners.
Leigh Ann: Yeah, it's so true. Again, with all the cancer, all the individuals experiencing cancer that [00:45:00] I get to work with, that's more of what I hear where they all have their oncologist who's recommending, really, there's only three things they ever recommend, right? Radiation, chemo, and surgery. So they, they always recommend that.
We know what the deal is there. And And then, then they're coming to the Holistic Cancer Center I'm at and adding in all these supplemental things, trying to find out potential physical and emotional root causes. But yeah, that unfortunately is the response of most of their oncologists, is either don't, you know, do whatever you're going to do, don't tell me about it.
The oncologist is actively persuading them or trying to persuade them against doing anything but the set protocol and, you know, thankfully many of these people have their own intuition and can make their own decisions, but it's, it's very, very far, few and far between when there's an oncologist who's like, Whoa, [00:46:00] tell me what you're doing.
This is amazing.
Juraj Kocar: yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's, uh, you know, it's in, well, it is interesting, but also it makes sense that, you know, when in Asia, there's different history of, uh, of, of traditional medicine that, for example, in South Korea and Japan, uh, doctors prescribed with, uh, like 70 percent patients when they have, uh, like a chemotherapy, they actually prescribe, uh, adaptogenic mushrooms.
You know, along with the chemo, you know, so, so there you go, but you know, that's, yeah, this is Japan and South Korea. So, yeah, yeah,
Leigh Ann: well, it's just so I mean, it's so disheartening, especially when you think of and by the way, that's not to say that no one should ever pursue those routes. Everyone has their own path. Everyone has autonomy to their own decision. And most of the patients we're seeing [00:47:00] are blending you know, a bit of Western and then this holistic medicine together.
But to that end, we know how destructive chemo is not just to cancer, but the entire system. And so the fact that conventional medicine is not offering or suggesting a single thing to rebuild the body for me is just flabbergasting. I can't even wrap my head around it.
Juraj Kocar: yeah, yeah, exactly. So, so, yeah, whatever. You know, wrote, uh, people decide to go, I, I, I would always recommend, you know, to go with, uh, you know, with the adaptogenic mushrooms. So, yeah,
Leigh Ann: Yeah.
Juraj Kocar: they're safe, they're safe, you know, they have this. Super universal properties. They are the biggest, you know, fighters of, of inflammation.
They, uh, you know, they are tested by time by, by centuries. They are tested by science. So there's basically no [00:48:00] reason why, you know, not, not, not to go with them.
Leigh Ann: And I actually want to circle back real quickly to the, the sugar conversation because we know that a lot of the patients I work with are usually on ketogenic diets or something to that effect for like a month or so super intensely, and then they can start to introduce natural things like honey or maple syrup or whatever, but we know the body processes the sugars in honey completely differently than it processes refined sugar.
It uses it in a completely different way. And I think to your point that, um, customer with diabetes kind of proves that point too. So I think that's worth saying though, cause I could totally understand how some individuals experiencing cancer might be like, Oh no sugar. I have to avoid that at all costs.
Obviously consult with your physician, but we know the way the body processes diabetes. Natural occurring sugars in honey is completely different.
Juraj Kocar: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.[00:49:00]
Leigh Ann: Well, this was so great. Thank you so much for helping us. I love getting to dive into all the different details and intricacies. So I'll make sure that I mean, well, why don't you tell us where the audience can find you? If they want to learn more, I'll of course make sure everything is linked in the show notes too.
Juraj Kocar: Of course. So they can find us on the wise earth. com that it's spelled a W Y S E earth. So why? Sir. com the Instagram handle is a wise underscore earth. And if someone would like to reach out directly to me, uh, it's on the website, the contact form that goes directly to me. And uh, you know, I would like to hear from, from anyone, you know, anyone that, you know, Feels inspired and, and, and, uh, would like to, to help or, or to trial the products.
Yeah. Let, let me know.
Leigh Ann: I love it. Well, thank you so much. You're right. Like I said, [00:50:00] for the listeners, all of that will also be linked in the show notes. So it'll be super easy for you guys to find it. Thank you so much.
Juraj Kocar: you for having me.