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The Aboard Podcast

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Talking about AI doesn’t have to feel like the end of the world. Join Rich Ziade, Paul Ford, and their guests as they discuss how AI is changing software development, business strategy—and everything else. New episodes every Tuesday.

Episodes

What’s the Opposite of AI Slop?

In the wake of the 2024 U.S. presidential election, Paul and Rich look towards the future with an AI lens—especially with the incoming Trump administration unlikely to put any regulatory guardrails on this rapidly evolving technology. What can AI do for people in our deeply fractured state? Are we doomed to poison the information environment forever, or could we use it to start building things that help people make sense of the world?

Nov 12, 202430 minSeason 2Ep. 134

Can AI Save NGOs Tons of Money?

Non-profits often have tight budgets and specialized needs—and wind up having to pay a whole lot of money for consultants and imperfect, out-of-the-box software solutions. As generative AI promises to drastically reduce the cost of development, how will that affect the non-profit and NGO landscape? On this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich assess this question, and offer up both immediate and longer-term advice for organizations struggling with software right now.

Nov 05, 202419 minSeason 2Ep. 133

Robots Take Over, Get Regulated

The Biden administration recently put out their first-ever National Security Memorandum on Artificial Intelligence, so on this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich unpack the memo and discuss what it might mean for the U.S. government’s future attitudes towards AI. Plus: They talk about recent developments with Anthropic’s Claude that allow you to control all the computers in the world.

Oct 29, 202420 minSeason 2Ep. 132

Explaining AI with Josh Tyrangiel

How has public perception of AI changed over the past two years? On this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich welcome on writer and editor Josh Tyrangiel, who’s been the Washington Post ’s “AI tourist” columnist since early 2023. They discuss what he’s encountered in various industries experimenting with AI, and the overall sentiments he’s observed as ordinary people grapple with this technology. Plus: He discusses his recent collaboration with Oprah Winfrey on an AI special for ABC News—and the remark...

Oct 22, 202435 minSeason 2Ep. 131

Exploring Anti-AI Thinking

Reqless tends to take a measured yet optimistic stance on AI, but a lot of people out there hate it—for reasons including the environmental impact, the dubious origins of LLM training data, and, of course, the looming threat of AGI, A.K.A. our future robot overlords. On this week’s episode, Paul and Rich discuss some of those critiques, as well as zoom out to look at the longer arc of the technology industry and its impact on the world, asking the question, “In five years, is the world in a bett...

Oct 15, 202429 minSeason 2Ep. 130

A New AI Acronym

You’re a business stakeholder trying to evaluate AI tools for your organization. How should you assess them—and how should you measure the value of their outputs? On this week’s Reqless, Paul pitches Rich an acronym for this very task: TRACE. Transparent, Repeatable, Actionable, Clear, Efficient. How can these metrics help someone understand these tools before letting them into their org, and help them calculate the potential return on investment? Plus: Paul and Rich discuss a recent interview w...

Oct 08, 202426 minSeason 2Ep. 129

Introducing Aboard Climate

These days, it can take longer to plan the software launch party than to spin up the software itself—which is exactly what happened with Aboard Climate, a new integration Paul, Rich, and the Aboard team debuted last week. Hangovers nursed and moderately rested, Paul and Rich discuss the event and the feature itself—which lets you incorporate real-time data from the climate-change literacy organization Probable Futures directly in Aboard—before talking about how the building process reflects toda...

Oct 01, 202424 minSeason 2Ep. 128

A Case for Growth

Does AI mean the end of software development jobs—or is this the start of a brand-new boom? Tech industry narratives are painting a gloomy future for coders, but on this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich take the opposite tack. AI will shift who has access to software creation and the way things get built—so how should technologists position themselves for the coming decade?

Sep 24, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 127

They’re Killing SaaS?

Is the SaaS era coming to an end? On this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich discuss recent comments from Klarna CEO Sebastian Siemiatkowski, who says that generative AI has allowed them to build internal tools that let them dispose of products like Salesforce and Workday. With the cost of building software on the brink of dropping precipitously, what does that mean for the SaaS giants going forward?

Sep 17, 202426 minSeason 2Ep. 126

The New Code Curriculum

If AI is about to fundamentally change software development, what should current students be learning about code? On this week’s Reqless, Paul anoints Rich as head of a fictional programming department and asks him to lay out his syllabus—before hijacking the exercise and laying out his own syllabus. You need just enough knowledge to really use these tools to program, so what exactly should students learn?

Sep 10, 202421 minSeason 2Ep. 125

Are Developer Jobs Safe?

Generative AI is already revolutionizing software development—so how long are developers’ jobs safe? On this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich use a recent post on the subject by Amazon CEO Andy Jassy to discuss the future of coders: What these tools will mean for organizations large and small; how new development paradigms will imperil the big consulting firms; and what advice they have for a junior developer looking at the next few decades of their career.

Sep 03, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 124

AI Meets Marketing with Noah Brier

How is AI changing the marketing industry? This week Paul and Rich welcome Noah Brier, a marketer and startup founder who’s excited about the ways AI could be used to solve the industry’s problems. Topics discussed include his early interest and adoption of generative AI tools, the types of problems his marketing clients are trying to tackle with AI, and why the tech industry seems to be missing the true potential of AI in its messaging.

Aug 27, 202437 minSeason 2Ep. 123

Asking a Squirrel to Explain Politics

By emphasizing the chatbot use case, are we missing the real communication powers of generative AI? On this week’s Reqless, Paul describes his recent journey to understand the 900-page, far-right master plan that is Project 2025—which he fed into ChatGPT and then asked for its contents to be summarized by “​a ​really ​cheerful, ​optimistic ​squirrel.” With the power to instantly change voice and tone—for humor, to accommodate different reading levels, to speak with different dialects, etc.—is AI...

Aug 20, 202423 minSeason 2Ep. 122

Why Facebook Gives AI Away

Are Meta’s ideas about AI the future of the technology? In the wake of the recent tech stock slump and with questions about newer AI companies’ true value, Paul and Rich look at Meta’s Llama and how the company is positioning its model in the broader AI landscape. Plus: They assess the recent decision in United States v. Google LLC —aka the Google antitrust case—and see if there are any real takeaways to be gleaned before what promises to be a lengthy appeals process.

Aug 13, 202424 minSeason 2Ep. 121

Will AI Take Your Job?

It’s easy to make blanket claims about “AI taking jobs”—but what does AI mean for specific industries in the near-term? On this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich run through five careers (musician, advertiser, teacher, therapist, and consultant) and assess the ways AI might—and might not—change work. Plus: Paul describes himself as the “slightly grumpy girlfriend” as he and Rich reminisce about going to see beloved indie band Low together.

Aug 06, 202429 minSeason 2Ep. 120

Will AI Change Spreadsheets?

On this week’s Reqless, Paul and Rich look at how AI might affect the dominant way people organize data today: The spreadsheet. With its low barrier to entry and ability for users of all sorts to hack together solutions, does the humble spreadsheet leave any room for an AI transformation—and does it even need one? Plus: Fresh off a trip to San Francisco, Paul reports back on our driverless car future.

Jul 30, 202419 minSeason 2Ep. 119

AI and the Legal Industry

On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich look at how AI is going to transform a very special industry filled with the nicest people: The law. After laying out the specific areas of the legal profession that are ripe for AI transformation, they assess a few current startups and their application frameworks (e.g., document review, research, contracts), and propose a new segment for each industry-specific podcast: “Will AI take your job?”

Jul 23, 202430 minSeason 2Ep. 118

Reqless and Step Skipping

Introducing Reqless—the new podcast from Aboard about how AI is changing software. In this episode, your hosts Paul Ford and Rich Ziade explain why this podcast exists, and talk about how AI is enabling everyone to start skipping steps—and why overall, you should embrace this, not fear it. (Although a little healthy fear never hurt anyone.)

Jul 16, 202417 minSeason 2Ep. 117

Time for a Change

A one-minute episode—we’re taking a very short summer break! But expect some big changes when we return… Transcript Paul Ford : Hi, I'm Paul Ford, the co-founder of Aboard. Rich Ziade: And I'm Rich Ziade, the other co-founder of Aboard. Paul : And you're listening to the Aboard Po—oh, wait a minute. Oh, wow. Okay, wait. I think we're gonna rename this thing. Rich : Yeah? Paul : Yeah, it's time. We've received some high-level branding advice, and it is time for us to get out there and kinda own w...

Jul 09, 20241 minSeason 2Ep. 116

Who Actually Needs AI?

Your boss walks in and says, “What are we doing about AI?” How do you respond? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich break down the problem with the question itself, and the way AI is being offered as an imprecise, ineffective solution to solve business’s structural problems. Who actually needs AI—and how do you figure out the best way to use it?

Jun 25, 202427 minSeason 2Ep. 115

The Dangers of Metaphors in Tech

Why do we try to explain tech concepts and processes with metaphors—and why do we choose the metaphors we use? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich get philosophical, kicking off the conversation with an article about how the human is not like a computer, and travel through the history of personal computing to our present AI moment. Plus: How exactly should you handle the idealists in your organization?

Jun 18, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 114

Deciding What to Build Next

You’ve just shipped your latest release. Once you finish celebrating, how do you decide what to build next? Paul taps Rich, in his role as Aboard CEO, to set a course on a hypothetical product roadmap: Does he prioritize an enterprise-specific feature, another that might bump up broader user engagement, or the thing the boss tossed out because he had a vague hunch? Plus: Why is some industry-specific software beautiful, while other industries are left with clunky, uninspired “bureaucracy in soft...

Jun 11, 202420 minSeason 2Ep. 113

Rhetoric, Cringe, and Stock Disasters

On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich offer up some quick hits—and sample, in Rich’s words, “a buffet of technology news.” First, rhetoric: Specifically, the rhetorical pretzels of Nick Clegg, President for Global Affairs at Meta Platforms, who Paul and Rich saw speak at the EmTech Digital Conference. Next, cringe: Canva’s corporate rap that went viral recently, drawing (uncomplimentary) comparisons to HBO’s Silicon Valley or Succession ’s “L to the OG.” And finally, stock disasters: On Salesfor...

Jun 04, 202421 minSeason 2Ep. 112

AI Is Scaffolding

Does the real promise of generative AI lie in the chatbot? Paul and Rich don’t think so. Building off a post by tech entrepreneur Dustin Moskovitz on “scaffolded AI,” they discuss extreme visions of our AI future and position themselves in the center—where tools work with the user, rather than attempt to replace them.

May 28, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 111

How Real Is Low Code?

There are a huge number of low-code tools out there—but is “low code” a meaningful term? Paul and Rich discuss the promise versus the reality of low code, what most businesses really need from software, and the other descriptors they’d use if tasked with a low-code rebrand.

May 21, 202421 minSeason 2Ep. 110

Bringing More Chaos to the Enterprise

What does “risk-taking” really mean in business—and how can embracing some level of chaos help foster success? Paul and Rich make the case for unpredictability, talking about everything from New York City’s Diamond District to the relatively short runway when running an agency to Rich’s management style. (Hint: It involves repeatedly hitting a metaphorical gong.)

May 14, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 109

The Space Between Platforms

You’ve got one software system that doesn’t play nicely with your other software system—so surely the answer is a third software system to link them together, right? And how about adding a fourth, maybe even a fifth? Paul and Rich discuss the challenging gaps between the platforms people use to manage their businesses: How hard it can be to truly identify problems while you’re trying to grow, and how technology consultants tend to recommend shorter-term solutions that only make things more compl...

May 07, 202430 minSeason 2Ep. 108

Growing 10x Is the Wrong Idea

How do you bring in ten times as many new users every day? That’s not the question you should actually be asking. Paul and Rich discuss the tech world’s faulty success metrics, the perpetual struggle of onboarding, and the importance of humility when listening to and communicating with your users.

Apr 30, 202426 minSeason 2Ep. 107

When Giants Want to Befriend You

If a huge company wants to “partner” with your small business, can that ever be a fair partnership? Paul describes a recent mentorship dilemma to Rich, and they discuss the dynamics that make the position of the smaller player in that scenario so challenging. Plus: Musings on public-spectacle trials past and present, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, and the existential dread prompted by even the most innocent Slack notifications.

Apr 23, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 106

Using AI Respectfully

From copyright violations to environmental concerns to the looming threat of the singularity, AI is a hot-button topic these days. Paul and Rich talk through many facets of this conversation, and discuss how they think about the AI components of Aboard. Plus: A little roleplay in which we learn that Paul thinks Aboard is an earnest mid-century cartoon character.

Apr 16, 202425 minSeason 2Ep. 105
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