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New Year's Resolutions plus Minnesota Shooting, Riots & Fraud

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1. New Year’s Resolutions

The first part of the discussion is lighthearted and personal. Both hosts share their resolutions for 2026:

  • Ted Cruz’s resolutions:
    • Lose 30 pounds (from 236 lbs to 206 lbs) through diet and exercise.
    • Complete a “Dry January” (no alcohol for the month).
    • Read the Bible daily throughout the year.
  • Ben Ferguson’s resolutions:
    • Focus on building muscle after significant weight loss (from 298 lbs to 209 lbs).
    • Commit to reading the Bible daily alongside Cruz.

They also reflect on family life, parenting, and the emotional challenges of children growing up and leaving home.

2. Minnesota Shooting, Riots & Fraud

The second part shifts to a serious political discussion:

  • Incident in Minnesota: A woman allegedly tried to run over an ICE agent with her SUV and was fatally shot. The hosts argue that the Left is politicizing the event, portraying the woman as a victim, and using the situation to attack law enforcement.
  • Rhetoric and Violence: They criticize Democratic leaders for inflammatory language, claiming it encourages violence against ICE and law enforcement. Examples include:
    • Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey telling ICE to “get out” of the city.
    • Governor Tim Walz suggesting Minnesota is “at war” with the federal government.
  • Fraud Scandal: They discuss a massive Somali-related fraud in Minnesota, allegedly involving $9 billion in taxpayer funds across multiple sectors (childcare, transportation, etc.). The conversation frames this as deliberate Democratic corruption tied to immigration policies and vote-buying.
  • Law Enforcement Advice: Practical tips for interacting safely with police during traffic stops are shared, emphasizing respect and de-escalation.

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Speaker 1

Welcome.

Speaker 2

It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. It's so nice to have you with us on the radio wherever you are around the country. And as a reminder, if you like the show, you love the podcast that we do three days a week and you can grab it wherever you get your podcast Center. It's a new year and this is our first show in the new Year for men on the radio that are listening and Senator, so let's have a little phone in New Year's resolutions.

You've got three, and I've got a few as well. I don't know if I have three, but we're going to have those for you in a minute. But before we get to that, I want to tell you about our great friends over at Compassion International. Right now, somewhere in the world, a kid you've never met is writing you a letter. They're telling you about their day, their dreams, the goal they scored, the test they passed, the new friend they made it school. Maybe they're drawing you even

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All right, Senata, So you've got three New Year's resolutions. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that of my New Year's resolutions, I'm going to be at thirty three percent of your New Year's resolutions. I do not know what they are, but I'm just going to see if we are aligned on this.

Speaker 1

So give me your top one for the year.

Speaker 3

I'm ready, all right, So number one in twenty twenty six, I'm gonna lose some weight. I like two damn fat uh. You know I weighed in this week at two thirty six. That is two damn fat. You know, when I graduated from college, I was a buck thirty five one hundred and thirty five pounds. I was skinny as a rail. And my target for twenty twenty six is to drop thirty pounds. I want to clock in next January at two oh six. I'm at two thirty six right now,

Ben and I are in a weight loss group. We've got several guys that are are are are trying to lose weight together and and so my objective over the next twelve months has dropped those thirty pounds, uh and and be at two oh six one year from now.

Speaker 2

Now, now, my question is, hold on, how are you gonna what's your plan for this? Is this gonna be like water polo or are you gonna get a trainer?

Speaker 1

I got to give you a little a little hard time here. I want to know.

Speaker 3

Look, look, it's it's kind of all of that. It's diet and exercise at the end of the day. And you know what, we're going to talk over the course of the year about how to do that and what's working and what's not. We're to have some of those conversations over the course of the year on the podcast.

Speaker 4

The objective, which which I've.

Speaker 3

Decided on, is to drop thirty and so so we'll see if we can do that, and and and and get to that point. H. My second resolution is actually related to my first, which which is that I am doing a dry January. As you know, Ben, I I enjoy red wine with dinner. It it it makes for a fun dinner. The problem is it's like injecting calories straight in your gut.

Speaker 4

Uh.

Speaker 3

And and and so if if you want to drop some weight, having wine with dinner is not conducive to that. And so I've decided for the month of January, I'm gonna go dry.

Speaker 5

Uh.

Speaker 3

And I'll tell you just a few days into it, I'm already feeling I'm sleeping better and feeling better. I think that's just a good It's healthier. I mean, at the end of the day. Uh, it's a lot healthier way to live. And and and so that is resolution number two. And then resolution number three, Uh is I am committing to myself that I am going to read the Bible every day in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1

All right, that's strong.

Speaker 3

That's something I've done at different periods of my life. When our girls were younger, we would do devotion at night with them, so we read through the Bible, the New Testament with them every night. We would read and talk about it and pray together. And you know, when you're being a parent, that gives you an excuse to do so, but life pulls you a million different directions and sometimes it eats away at the time you would have to otherwise just just sit down and study the Word.

And so I'm making a commitment to myself also that every day I'm going to read the Bible. And those three things together, I think are really they have me excited about twenty twenty six because I think all three of them are the right thing to do for this year ahead.

Speaker 1

Dude, I love that. By the way, the Bible one.

Speaker 2

That's cool because I literally tried a couple different times and life gets busy to do that one year Bible where you rea every day and you read the whole Bible in a year. And I got through it a couple of times where it was like you get about halfway and then things get happen the year. But the idea of just reading it every day, I actually will take that challenge with you, I will, I will actually commit to getting on board with that one. So my the thirty three percent, by the way, I was right

because I my weight, so my weight journey. I was to you know this August twenty six, I was two ninety eight. I went to the doctor scared the living snot out of me. I'm now down to I think two oh nine, and my goal for this year is I know. See that's I'm glad I didn't look as bad as you just said. Right Like, So, I'm like, I'm down about ninety my goal this year.

Speaker 3

I don't realize you're down at two and nine. That's impressive, man, that is a lot of weightl lot and then that's really impressive.

Speaker 2

So yesterday I was like, what is my goal? And my goal for this year is I want to put back muscle on and because I've been so focused on weight loss, so I'm going to work out lifting weights to a neighbor three days a week at least it just waights do the other stuff I've been doing. But I put on a shirt yesterday to kind of motivate me. I had one of my old shirts. I pulled it out. I swear to you it's this far in front of my chest, like I was able to pull it out

this far, and I kept one. I got rid of all the other clothes, but I didn't want to go backwards, but I kept it. And it's like my motivations, like all right, I can do this this year, So I'll take I'm at sixty six percent with you, you know me, I laugh. I really don't care about alcohol. It's never been a thing. I'm alert to sofa drugs, which means red wine gives me the worst headache in the world. It's probably the biggest blessing God's ever given me because

I've never cared. It makes me feel horrible, Like two SIPs and I feel like I want to die of red wine.

Speaker 1

So it's never been a thing.

Speaker 2

But I'm sixty six percent in with you, but I'll encourage you on the other thirty three percent, So I like it.

Speaker 3

Well, look, it's a journey, and I expect that a lot of our listeners are making your own commitments in a new year, and maybe the maybe the resolutions Ben and I are doing our resolutions, you'll decide to do in your own life. Maybe you're maybe you're already skinny, in great shape, and so that's not a resolution you didn't need to make. But maybe there's some other aspect of your life that it's a chance to think about.

You know, what you want this next year, twenty twenty six to be to make a real investment in your own quality of life, in your wife or your husband, or your kids and your family. You know, I think all of that really really matters. And you know, both of us are dads, and I think I think both of us. Look, I'm facing Carolina is seventeen, she's a senior in high school, so we're getting ready to have one leave the house, which is a terrifying moment. And

Catherine is fifteen, she's a freshman. We just got a couple of years till she's gone too. I'll tell you the first day we're an empty nester, I'm going to go into the girl's room and probably just just just cry and miss them. You've got a few more years till that happens. But my guess is you're going to feel the same sentiment.

Speaker 1

All right, center.

Speaker 2

I want to get into Minnesota, and what happened in Minnesota There is a rallying cry because of a woman who tried to run over an ICE agent that she is somehow a victim, and the Left is wanting to have a civil war over this. You have the mayor there telling ICE agents to literally get the f out. You have civil war the words being used by the governor. They're seizing on this like it's an opportunity to derail

ICE in law enforcement. It is truly sick and shocking to witness what we're watching right now.

Speaker 3

You're right, and what we're witnessing in Minnesota is is the natural culmination of several years of just increasingly heightened rhetoric from Democrats demonizing ICE agents, demonizing border patrol, demonizing law enforcement, just attacking them. We have democrats who call ICE agents Nazis, they call them Gestapo, and and listen, listen.

As you know, I was on the ground in Dallas within minutes of of when the drain shooter in Dallas opened open fire at ICE ICE agents there because he had listened to all of the less horrible anti ICE rhetoric. We're seeing that pattern. We're seeing acts of violence over and over and over again. And listen what happened in Minneapolis. Anytime someone dies in an interaction with law enforcement, it's tragic.

We don't want to see anybody die. But I will say, look that this woman had a very easy way to avoid fatal consequences, which is, when law enforcement detains you, you follow the instructions of law enforcement. If you're pulled over at the side of a road and law enforcement pulls you over, you follow their instructions and you don't drive your vehicle, in this case, a big SUV right at law enforcement because that look, that potentially can be fatal.

And I have to say it's systematically true that the that if someone attacks law enforcement. You see instances where sometimes someone has pulled over and and they reach for and try to grab a police officer's taser or his weapon, and and an awful lot of those instances end up with with with a fatality because if if you if you present present what could be a deadly threat to a law enforcement officer, and many many instances, that's going

to be the last thing you do. And and and unfortunately, this woman, I'm sure if she could could go back in time, she would have changed her behavior. But but the decision she made in that split second cost her life. And now we're seeing democrats deliberately stoking the fire and just just pouring gasoline on the divisions and anger, and it's incredibly cynical and incredibly harmful what they're doing.

Speaker 2

It's so sad to see them look at this almost like an opportunity to score political points. It was like, yes, we've got someone that's passed away. We can now seize on this, make our political statements. It is a tragedy, as you said earlier, that this woman died. I hate that this woman died, but you gave this law enforcement individual no other choice when you have a car coming right at you. And thank goodness, by the way, if you watch the video, there was some ice on the

street there. It's winter, and the tires spun a little bit. If there wouldn't have been the ice there, there's a very good chance he'd be dead right now. It gave him the moment to be able to defend himself that he may not have had otherwise. And I think that's the part about this that I look at it and I'm like, no one wins in this situation. But you don't get to go out there when you don't like law enforcement and just decide I don't have to listen to them or I can run them over, and they said,

Christyen Hoomes said it yesterday. More than a hundred incidents is of people using their cars to go at ICE agents in the last thirty days. This is happening all over the country because the left is organized for this exact reason.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And look, anytime there's an officer shooting, there will be an investigation. That standard procedure, so they'll go and examine the facts after the facts and then that's the way law enforcement operates anytime you've got a particularly a shooting involving a fatality. But but but it is it is amazing that this particular ICE agent, uh, Christinome, the DHS secretary said, had previously in recent months been hit by

a car previously and dragged behind a car. So this is the second time this very same agent face this threat and and and and that's what we are seeing the the extreme left, uh that that are threatening Ice. They that they are they are in extreme cases shooting at ICE agents and and using their cars as weapons. And and I just wish you would see even a couple of Democrats demonstrate some restraint, dem straight, some prudence and not just all right, the mayor of Minneapolis. Yeah,

left wing radical. Here was his calm, sober reflections on where to go from here.

Speaker 6

Give a listen, and I have a message for Ice to Ice, get out of Minneapolis. We do not want you here. Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite. People are being hurt, Families are being ripped apart. Long term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture, to our economy are being terrorized. And now somebody is dead. That's

on you, and it's also on you to leave. It's on you to make sure that further damage, further loss of life and injury, is not done.

Speaker 2

I never thought i'd see a day where I would witness a mayor be so political after something like this happens, to tell law enforcement who were just sitting to do their job to enforce the laws of the land, to get the f out and then say it's their fault.

Speaker 3

What a repulsive partisan swine like that is. I'm physically sick listening to and watching Jacob Fry. You know we talked about before how he you know, dances with glee waving the Somali flag and the massive fraud that has happened he has presided over and profited from.

Speaker 4

And here he is.

Speaker 3

You know what, this woman, a thirty seven year old woman, she's the mother of three. Look, she was there in part because of rhetoric like that, because of rhetoric attacking Ice. And and by the way, this woman she was married to another woman. Apparently her her wife was there videoing the entire incident. That that is a level of radicalization, and it is radicalization the Democrats have caused, they want and they're deliberately inflaming that passion center.

Speaker 2

Let's go back to just the rhetoric that is coming out of the left, and we're going to talk about the governor wats in a moment. But there's been also, i think a very back law enforcement mentality that's been clear across the entire Trump administration. I'm glad that's their line and they're not backing down from Ice doing their job.

Speaker 4

Look that that is absolutely right.

Speaker 3

President Trump has the back of Ice, has the back of border patrol agents and law enforcement. You know, I view my job as having the back of law enforcement. I'll tell you, as I travel the country, I see whether it's border patrol agents or ice agents, or sheriffs or local local police, and I tell them all the time, I just say thank you, and it's my job to have your back. And that's a big part of why President Trump was re elected in twenty twenty four is

law enforcement. We're tired of having elected politicians who threw them under the bus at any excuse, and a lot of people across the country were tired of politicians who were letting violent criminals into this country and not standing with law enforcement. This week, Jade Vance, the Vice President, did a press conference at the White House. He did a very good job with it. Here's what he had to say about the shooting that happened in Minneapolis.

Speaker 5

Thank you for taking questions today.

Speaker 7

He is there a risk with you describing for as a deranged left as talking about very specific facts of these events when an investigation is just beginning. Are you preempting a thorough investigation by drawing such conclusions? And have you received any information beyond the videos we've seen publicly about this individual per specific act that has informed your point of view.

Speaker 8

Well, first of all, the Department of Justice is going to investigate this. The Department of Homeland Security is already investigating this. But the simple fact is what you see is what you get. In this case, you have a woman who is trying to obstruct a legitimate law enforcement operation. Nobody debates that you have a woman who aimed her car at a law enforcement officer and pressed on the accelerator.

Nobody debates that I can believe that her death is a tragedy while also recognizing that it's a tragedy of her own making and a tragedy of the far left, who has marshaled an entire movement, a lunatic fringe against our law enforcement officers. I think what is clearly happening here, and it's going to keep on happening unless the Democrats wake up and say, you know what, you don't have

to agree with our immigration policies. You don't have to agree with what the president or the vice president believe about immigration enforcement. But why don't you take this to the ballot box.

Speaker 4

Why don't you vote?

Speaker 8

Why don't you organize instead? What some of them are doing, what some of them are doing is encouraging people to get violent with our law enforcement officials. It's disgraceful and it's got to stop.

Speaker 2

It's sad that you have to have that type of clarity, but he's absolutely right in what he's saying. If you don't like something, you can vote and change, but you don't just get to make up the rules and target people you disagree with.

Speaker 3

Well and more and more, the left is condoning violence, violence on a partisan basis. And let me be clear, violence is always always wrong, whether whether I agree with your politics or disagree with your politics, nobody has a right to engage in violence. And and we're seeing on the left, more and more, we've seen the pole numbers of growing numbers of people on the left think violence

is justified. Think violence is justified against Donald Trump. Think violence is justified against Elon Musk and and think violence is justified against Ice And it's it's fundamentally wrong, and and and and the Democrats are deliberately pushing this and and and listen, I will say, for this woman, she had complete control to avoid this happening. Yeah, and and and and any time you interact with law enforcement, I

believe you should interact respectfully and understand. Look, Look, if a police officer pulls you over on the road, that officer. Every day it is potentially a deadly encounter for that officer. And every year you have officers who are shot and killed on the side of the road by some lunatic who's packing. They don't know when they're coming up, coming up to the driver's side. That's that in most instances, they have no idea who they're going to encounter. I'll

tell you know again. You and I are parents. What when your kids start driving? With my kids, what I tell them is if you get pulled over, pull over, put the car in park, and put your hands on ten and two on the steering wheel, on the steering wheel visible because the officer coming up doesn't know if you have a firearm, doesn't know if you're a deadly threat. And by the way, the officer sees your hands at ten and two and realize you're showing the hands for

a reason. The officer comes and says, let me see your license and registration. It's a good to tell the officer, Okay, my licenses is in my wallet. Can I get it so the officer doesn't think you're reaching for a gun beneath.

Speaker 4

The seat or something.

Speaker 3

Look, all of that is prudent it's the advice that I give my kids. It's the advice that every responsible parent I know, yeah, gives their child that that don't put yourself in a position where law enforcement has reason to be afraid, even if you're not a threat.

Speaker 4

Don't give them reason to be afraid.

Speaker 2

My dad was in law enforcement. He said to me so clearly. He said, I want to make it clear you never argue with law enforcement. If they're wrong, you get to go to court, but you always make sure you do not argue and you follow the orders given and if you've been wronged, that's why we have a judge. That's why we have a court system. And he was very clear, you're my son. I always want you to be safe. You turn your dome wide on, you turn the car off, you put your hands up there.

Speaker 1

It goes back to respect.

Speaker 2

But the left is now saying if you don't like them, for whatever reason, you don't have to abide by the rules.

Speaker 1

You don't have to respect the law.

Speaker 2

And if you don't like a law, instead of going in and actually voting and trying to change a law, they're saying, just be a vigilante.

Speaker 1

And that's how we've gotten to this point.

Speaker 3

And by the way, Ben At lunch Thursday, several of the senators were talking about exactly this topic, and Mike Lee brought it up. Although what he said is you should put your hands at nine and three instead of ten and two.

Speaker 4

I'm like, nine and three. Who drives like that?

Speaker 3

What are you Mario Andretti or something that's a little bit weird to nine and three. I don't know if that's a a Utah thing or what exactly that means. Uh, But I at least was talk ten and two, But I don't know how about you.

Speaker 4

Are you a ten and two?

Speaker 1

I'm at ten and too.

Speaker 2

But my dad always said, he's like if you, he said, when you get pulled over, cross your hands on the top of the steering wheel because it's showing that you're not trying to grab anything. And I'm like, every time I do it, almost nine und percent of time.

Speaker 1

One force always said to me, thank you. I turned the don one on.

Speaker 2

I rolled down all four windows because if they come on the left side.

Speaker 1

Of the right I don't want them not to worry about anything with me.

Speaker 2

They've had a hard enough day and they've done this, and like you said, they walk up to a traffic stop. They don't know if you just robbed a bank. That's what my dad always told me. They don't know if you just killed your wife. They don't know, if you just ran over someone. They don't know if you have drugs in the car. They don't know who you are. So make them comfortable with you. And and I wish we lived in a society where that was like the common denominator.

Speaker 1

Now unfortunately it's not.

Speaker 4

And that naturally de escalates.

Speaker 3

When you do that, you can see law enforcement kind of just you know, take an extra breath and okay, this is this is not going to be confrontational. And and listen, the reason that didn't happen is is this woman didn't want to de escalate. This woman was there to provoke a confrontation with law enforcement. She was there because the rhetoric on the left was is stand up and fight ice and and she was there to do that and and and and so it was the opposite

of de escalation. She was looking to escalate, and and tragically she escalated too far. And she may look, we may never know her intention. She may have just think thought she was fleeing. Uh, But but the officer. If you drive a vehicle right at somebody, particularly an officer who's already been run over once just a few months ago by another leftist, you are posing a real and

present threat. And and and if you pose a real and present threat to law enforcement, that that predictably can result in deadly force as a consequence.

Speaker 2

By the way side, note just I was talking to something in law enforce and they said, would you please just remind people that we will charge you with major crimes as a deadly weapon if you use your car to hit somebody.

Speaker 1

We do it every day in America. This isn't some new rule.

Speaker 2

You use your car as a deadly weapon, you will go to jail for that, whether you're going after law enforcement or an innocent person. It and and I think that's the important point for you to remember. If I was in front of that car, I could ease been run over. You could have anybody. That's why we have laws in the books that say you cannot use your car as a deadly weapon, and if you do, you will be charged with major crimes. It's sad that we

even have to have this conversation. But the governor, by the way, center, he's not backing down. He's seeing a political opportunity here, the same disgrace Governor, because of the scandal that tappen in Minnesota. He's now out there calling like this in essence of civil war, trying to ratchet things up instead of bringing down the temperature, which is also I think really sick.

Speaker 3

And by the way, you remember back in twenty twenty two, the man in Waukeshaw, Wisconsin who drove his suv into a Christmas parade and murdered multiple people, did so very deliberately, using it as a deadly weapon and killing children, killing the elderly, and it was horrific.

Speaker 4

And the grotesque irony is that.

Speaker 3

He had previously used his car as a deadly weapon against if I remember correctly, is his pregnant girlfriend. Yeah, And he had been charged with it and then let out a jail on a nominal I think it was a five hundred dollars bond, because you had one of those George Soros prosecutors.

Speaker 4

Who lets people go.

Speaker 3

And they let him out of jail for attempting to kill someone with a car as a deadly weapon. And he went out to the Christmas Day parade and committed mass murder. A car can be a very deadly weapon.

Speaker 2

Senator, I want to go back to this the rhetoric here, and we mentioned the governor earlier. The governor Tim Waltz is now a disgraced governor. He had to drop out of his re election campaign because of the fraud that is just continuing to grow in the dollar amount and the different sectors of the government. I'm not sure there's any sector in Minnesota that wasn't involved in fraud and corruption at this point. We're seeing it in transportation, child care,

the list goes on and on. But the governor now seems to think this is like a moment to seize on and he's now wanting to go to war with the federal government.

Speaker 1

It's very odd.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Look, the Democrat politicians in Minnesota are in crisis right now because this Somali fraud. It is the worst instance of fraud that has ever been uncovered in American history, nine billion dollars in counting massive theft from the taxpayers.

Speaker 4

It is so bad that Tim Waltz.

Speaker 3

I mean, remember, like twelve minutes ago the Democrats said he was going to be vice president of the United States, and now he's ended his campaign for re election even as governor, because look, I think he's facing potentially very real criminal liability for the fraud that unfolded under his leadership. And it is and Waltz and the mayor in Minneapolis that they're not the only ones. I think there's an

entire array of Democrats who are responsible. And one of the reasons why they are so eager to foment riots. I mean, look that they are rooting for a replay of the Black Lives Matter and the Antifa riots we saw all over the country. They want people go into the streets, they want them looting stores, they want them fire bombing police cars. They are rooting for violence because they want to energize their voters and get everyone not

talking about the fraud. Here's Tim Waltz, the governor, and here was his response, calling for all at war.

Speaker 9

Well, I said this yesterday. We've never been at war with our federal government. I think in this case that the National Guard is their main mission. They have a dual mission.

Speaker 2

When he said that and it went viral, I'm Mike, let me get this straight. You have a governor who is in a crisis situation. I'm talking about the Christs on the ground whose job is to back law enforcement, and his job is also to ratchet down the rhetoric so we don't have a civil war breakout. And he's like, maybe this is an opportunity for a civil war. He's saying that Minnesota is at war with the United States federal government.

Speaker 1

The governor just said that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and listen, if you're an angry left wing radical, you already hate Ice, you already hate Donald Trump, and then you hear the elected Democrat governor say Minnesota is at war with the federal government. That is a call to violence. That is a call in war. People get killed, people get injured. That is Democrats very deliberately calling to violence. It is not we disagree over policy with the federal government.

It is we are at war. And I think a huge part of this is a cya instinct because the fraud is so bad. And I want you to listen, the House representatives had a hearing on the fraud in Minnesota. By the way, I'm going to be charing a hearing on the same topic in just a couple of weeks, so we'll cover that in verdict when that happens. But I want you to listen to Brandon gil Brandon Gill

is a good friend. He is a congressman from Tech says he's cross examining this, this left wing witness from Minnesota. I want you to listen to this exchange. It's really powerful.

Speaker 10

Thank you for being here. Ask you, does large scale Somali immigration make Minnesota stronger or weaker? Certainly stronger, certainly stronger. Do you know what percentage of Somali headed households in Minnesota are on food stamps?

Speaker 4

No?

Speaker 10

Fifty four percent. Do you know what that number is for Native Minnesota headed households.

Speaker 5

Well, to be clear, a majority of this.

Speaker 10

It's seven it's seven percent. There's a big difference between fifty four percent and seven percent?

Speaker 4

Is there?

Speaker 7

Not?

Speaker 4

Use me?

Speaker 5

So I could I answer the question?

Speaker 10

Let me let me move on. We've got a lot of questions here. What percentage of Somali headed households in Minnesota are on Medicaid?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

Speaker 10

It's seventy three percent. Do you know what that number is for Minnesota native households?

Speaker 5

Again, you're using the phrase Minnesota native households.

Speaker 4

The number.

Speaker 10

If the number is eighteen percent, that's a quite an astounding difference. I think we would. Can I answer the question? Please, let me ask you one more and then we can go onto that. What what percentage of Somali headed households are on welfare in general?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

Speaker 10

It's eighty one percent. What about let me just ask you, after ten years of being in the United States, what percentage of Somali immigrant households are on continue to be on welfare?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

Speaker 10

The number is seventy eight percent. So even after ten years, seventy eight percent of Somali immigrant households continue to be on welfare. Do you know what that number is for Native Minnesota headed households non Somali immigrant immigrant headed households.

Speaker 5

If I can just answer the question, you're using the phrase native Minnesotans. The majority of Somali Minnesotans are as Minnesota as any of us. They were born in the United States. It's only eight thousand of the one hundred and eight thousand.

Speaker 10

In Nevertheless, the welfare usage is astoundingly different. Let me ask you again, does that make Minnesota stronger or weaker?

Speaker 4

Again?

Speaker 5

I'd like the opportunity to answer the question here. So again, the majority Somali and Minnesotan's are born in the United States. Is I understand, okay, well.

Speaker 10

What percentage of working age Somalians who have been in the US for ten years or more? Ten years or more, how many of them speak English very well? I don't know about half. The answer is about half. That seems pretty low, doesn't it.

Speaker 2

I love just the facts there, Senator, like the way that he handled that, the reason why you're good friends with, the reason why we played it, because he's just laying out the reality of the situation on the ground and how we got to a point where virtually every government program in Minnesota has been compromised by the Somali community in this way where they could grab money and create fraud with it.

Speaker 3

But by the way Brandon got elected, he had a rough primary, He had a bunch of primary opponents, He had millions of dollars spent against him.

Speaker 4

Brandon is a conservative.

Speaker 3

Actually, his father in law is Danesh Desuzo, who's a good friend, and I endorsed Brandon early, went and campaigned with him, and he overcame a ton of money come against him. And part of what I told the voters of Texas is listen, if y'all elect brand and he's going to go and fight for you and make you proud.

Speaker 4

He's doing that. You know. I want to make a point about the.

Speaker 3

Back and forth because that that Weasley, Minnesota lefty witness. He kept saying, well, the majority of Somalians are are born in America. Now noted, note what Brandon Gill was asking. Somali immigrant headed households, and the guy says, well, they have a bunch anchor babies.

Speaker 4

In other words, we bring over Somali immigrants.

Speaker 3

Yeah, they have tons of babies here and because of birthright citizenship, which is a really foolish policy. And my hope is that the Supreme Court will side with President Trump and ending it. But the Somali immigrants come here, they have a lot of babies here. That guy's focusing on the babies, and Brandon's saying, all right, how about the person who heads the household and the person who heads the household? Are these Somali immigrants and you've got

eighty one percent of them on welfare? And I tell you the staff that was really powerful was ten years later they've been here ten years, it's seventy eight percent still on welfare.

Speaker 4

This is a scam.

Speaker 3

The Democrats did it deliberately, and they did it to buy votes. They were importing votes to vote for Democrats. They allowed them to commit fraud to steal nine billion dollars and then to bundle those votes for the Democrats, to bundle cash for the Democrats, and the Democrats covered

it up. And it's why Tim Waltzon, Jacob Fray and so many other Democrats are trying to enrage the left about this shooting with Ice because they want to cover up from the incredible theft and fraud they are responsible for.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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