A Was country To be Honeyty, Mel layer 2ής Grival in the ?! The experimental model home perhaps you noticed that the house itself is constructed entirely of plastics. Despite the graceful lightweight appearance of the suspended wings of this house, each one is able to support more than 13 tons. The floors on which you are walking are gently sloping walls. Welcome to the 3028 a show about theme park history and pop culture history I am Matt Parrish and I am Kevin Quigley.
Kevin for our new travelers, Aloha and welcome aboard our highway in the sky. I recently experienced that Kevin, actually not that script anymore, that was the OG when you get on the monorail at the Polynesian script. Oh yes, I love that so much. Oh I missed the monorail, I want to go on the monorail right now. Resort monorail or express monorail can.
Resort monorail always because you can go around, you can see like I know it's slower and whatever and you have to keep letting people on and off but I just I love visiting all the resorts I want to get off and like be at the grandfather rating for a while then be in the Polynesian for a while. You just want to say Narcusi's as many times as you can. I love saying Narcusi's. I bet that was the first restaurant I took my husband to when the first day he went to Disneyland and Disney World.
I took him to Narcusi's. It's kind of like schmuzis. Schmuzis and Narcusi's. Schmuzis. Schmuzis. That's good at schmuzis. I have to think a young very young Michael Eisner thought that up in his synergistic days of Paramount Studios thinking about how to schmuz with industry elites. Anyway Kevin, resort monorail. I like it too because you can get off at the resorts and walk through the resort hotels and walk throughs are the subject of this show. Oh you that was the best segue.
I so we, man I like you know we've talked a little bit behind the scene stuff before like sometimes I'll come up with a bigger topic or Matt will come up with a bigger topic and like we'll talk to each other about it and try to figure it out. But then once in a while one of us will say like oh let's do an allogy about this and the other one will be like yes and that's what happened here. We both immediately wanted to do walk through attraction.
It's very funny too because both of us really love walk through attractions and I think we kind of like different ones which is kind of interesting. Like I love the walk through because it's very old school but then the Disney has been able to take this concept and create attractions for modern audiences. I mean we had a walk through open last year. It's crazy.
Last year and here's the thing so the reason why I kind of want to do this at first was because when that attraction which we'll get to was opening I heard a lot of people say oh it's just a walk through it doesn't really count as an attraction.
I'm like yes it does and I was like Disney's been doing walk throughs all along and then that sort of like got the gears rolling and recently a fan, a fan, a listener of the 3028, wrote to us superfan, wrote to us not Chrissy but another superfan wrote to us and said hey what are you going to do another ology show and Matt and I were like you know what we've been doing too many high quality deep dives into history it's time for another ology. Let's pump the brakes.
Let's do something real chinsy if we can't. Now actually I like the listries also because they are part history and then part list hence the name it's a perfect uh what's the word? Port Manto. Port Manto it's a perfect portmanto on the show and you and I love portmanto so it works great.
We are going to dive into that but first we want to tell you about our sponsor guess what it's you I know you didn't even sign up for it however we have nominated you to help support the show we are listener supported 100% you can support the show with five star
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in the past you know in other lists and other histories but we've never really tackled this one subject and it's interesting because walkthroughs have been part of Disney from the very beginning and uh and we're gonna kick that off uh right after these messages
before Disneyland opened a guest in 1955 Walt Disney the man explored hundreds of attraction ideas that might bring his concept to life as Disney and his team at wed winnowed their list it became clear that fantasy land main street and frontier land were the real thrust of the park allowing guests to experience the three-dimensional reality of storybook tales walk down a bustling avenue found in classic musicals and ride through the most popular film genre of the day the western
but tomorrow and an adventure land proved to be a more challenging feat brick-and-mortar attractions that explored space or exotic locales were either too expensive or technologically impossible at the time to meet the concept of the lands and engage guests Disney took a different approach to the
amusement and dark ride concept enter the walkthrough attraction Kevin we love these we absolutely love these on the show we could argue that the early walkthrough attractions at Disney lands were kind of throwaways maybe too corperty but actually some of them had merit Kevin oh yeah yeah I mean
like okay so we've talked about the bathroom of tomorrow the alloon wall of fame like they're fine there's nothing really I love them I love them they're cute they're they were important at the time because they were you know they got sponsorships in and and they you know we're able to we were
able to put like brick-and-mortar places in these you know otherwise vast empty spaces so that's good so they were important but a lot of these like early walkthroughs basically Walt said hey you know we could do rides for everything but that's sometimes prohibitively expensive let's do some
of these walkthroughs that are just as immersive and just as interesting without having to necessarily show up for a ride system and and that sounds like you're going on the cheap but it's not necessarily I agree yeah and walkthrough attraction is really kind of a microcosm of a park land
if you think about a land at a Disney theme park it's scaled it's an immersive environment and it makes you feel like you're stepping inside of a story which is really what a good attraction or walk through should do and Disney they didn't invent these it's really an antiquated concept museums
have done these historically people have opened up their old mansions and homes and created walkthroughs out of them but they did kind of perfect the walkthrough for theme park guests so they became so good at this over time many of the ridethroughs that we now enjoy like haunted mansion were designed as walkthroughs and you know that changed when omnibuver technology came on board but there's also the vice versa of that some attraction concepts became too expensive in concept and maybe even too
large to include ridethrough technology so Disney had to present these attractions as maybe smaller walkthroughs yeah and it's interesting too because you know we think about the omnibuver the omnibuver exists to make you pay attention to a specific area and so when you're doing a walkthrough
you're you're allowed to sort of like wander through on your own pace at your own time so it had to be even more immersive and like make sure that no matter where you looked you had like that concept all around you whereas an omnibuver even though it's a little bit more expensive you could
your force to look in one direction so these had to be multi-directional fully immersive you know all the way 3d without you know any breaks in that continuity and so yeah so we're gonna we're gonna take a look at at some of these walkthrough attractions but Matt let's get something out of the way at first at one point I was thinking hey does something like cars land or bat 2 count as a walkthrough and and I think we decided that that does not yeah some of them you know we took the sort of land
concept out of this and we also took the pavilion concept out of this because those are almost too big we also took the cue out of this if you think about like like the twilight zone tower of terror like there's a lot of walkthrough in that attraction the boiler room the the library the den the
elevator but we sort of took those out so these are attractions designed specifically to be walkthroughs in their entirety that's the point here right so we're gonna kick things off in the early early days of Disneyland yeah and we're gonna cross cross the pond but let's start with 20,000 leagues under the sea the walkthrough attraction not not the submarine right the OG 20,000 leagues attraction at Disneyland and tomorrow land was designed as a walkthrough to help support and promote celebrate
the success of the mid 50s live action film for Disney the most basically like the most expensive film they had done at the time 20,000 leagues under the sea we know Kirk Douglas was in the film and Peter Laurie and so people really love this film and so what they did in tomorrow land is they created a walkthrough filled with sets from the not a list and the closest thing I can think of today where you would experience something like like that are attractions that we'll talk about later
like Swiss family Robinson and things where you sort of walkthrough and you're seeing environments from the film in real time it's funny too because you know sometimes I you hear people like how does this like guarded the galaxy's how does this tie into Epcot's themes well the thing about 20,000
leagues under the sea why did it fit into Marland oh it's because we're gonna tie into the themes of nuclear power and learning about nuclear power that Disney added to the story I recently read this book for the first time by the way it's a very very good book and I didn't realize like how
sort of forward thinking it was gonna be even though I'd seen the movie and been on the attraction and whatever so but that's how they did that you know tomorrow land nuclear power was gonna be the the power that saved us all the power that changed everything in our atomic future and so that's how
they they work this in it was it was based on the quote unquote mightiest motion picture of them all uh it was great special effects all this other stuff but yeah it was a walkthrough it had like like dioramas and had exhibits of the film so you could sort of explore all these like displays
about what the film was about without actually like writing the submarine and the reason that they did this is this is one of those early things where they had sponsors for tomorrow land that won't get to but they couldn't get sponsors for everything and so they're like well why don't we
you know utilize our IP and make that sort of a sponsor oh this is something that Disney would perfect in the 2010s and 2020s where they said okay you know what we can't get a sponsor for this or we don't want a sponsor for this we're going to use our current intellectual property to sort of
stand in for a sponsor and you know that'll bring people in brand recognition will bring people people in and that totally worked it you know it eventually became the submarine ride but it was still really popular as a walkthrough yeah and some of these walkthroughs actually a lot of these walkthroughs were um non-ticketed in the early days which allowed people to just sort of walk through them for free as you know the park entrance fees were very low um and then you'd bought ticket books
at the time really you bought ticket books into the 80s which is wild to think of uh but yeah this would have been one where Disney is presenting its IP so it would not have been like a big E-ticket or D or C-ticket at the time this would have been something that was either in A-ticket or you could
walk through for free eventually so another uh and and I want to we mentioned this we're going to jump across the pond uh we're going to go to Europe uh because even though the 20,000 leagues under the sea ride doesn't exist at Disneyland anymore now the Finding Nemo ride and it does exist
in Tokyo uh as a slightly different thing but the walkthrough sort of still exists in Disneyland Paris um laymester do notellus it's a walkthrough attraction in Disneyland Paris uh in discovery land and it's basically an updated version of the 20,000 leagues under the sea walkthrough you go in
you go down into the notellus and you can look around there's octopuses there's you know there's the organ that Captain Nemo plays there's all this really really neat stuff and it's it's a very well-appointed and very uh it's it's a little bit claustrophobic but it's a submarine so obviously
um but it's really you go through all these different rooms and uh it's basically the closest thing we have nowadays to what that original attraction used to be yeah that's really cool I really like that idea I mean the French connection there is super important to this film the story um if
you dive into the history of these it's really fascinating the 20,000 leagues under the sea exhibit the walkthrough at Disneyland lasted for 11 years it lasted a really long time so it was around and it was like one of these like last second things that they did at the time um one of uh I
think it was like one of Walt's night old men helped him conceive of this and was like they were like painting late in the night to get this open they put it on TV the same week that it opened in the park um so this was a really interesting concept I like to think of this as a connection maybe
to even the studio theme parks where you're walking through you know movie sets or things that appear to be sets at the time um and you know this was just an early concept that we'll see like play out again and again and again as Disney celebrates it's movie making magic whereas the one in Paris
is more like a a walkthrough that's you know unto itself rather than something that's film based set based well I mean I would I would consider a discovery land in Disneyland Paris basically like a book based thing yeah literally good all literary um you know even though we have
hyperspace mountain instead of space mountain uh uh the look of it still looks very steampunk looks very jules verne and this is this is you know this supports that very well but Matt let's go on over to uh California adventure because and we've discussed early days of California to California
adventure 1.0 did a lot of things that were wrong um just just the outdoor mall thing um just everything was not as good as it could be well not everything because uh the grizzly p-carrier fantastic and one other area was amazing and this is the budden bakery tour uh which it was a walkthrough tour of a bakery um and at the beginning or at the end you would get pieces of sourdough bread and then you would learn about the history and the making of sourdough bread in this little walk
through tour that you could go at your own pace you could watch the bread being made through the glass it was a very uh interesting sort of forward thinking concept that did however have a little bit of that ison or synergy celebrity synergy uh baked in did it oh yes my friend i need to know more
about this all right so when you enter the budden bakery which used to be part of the i believe the Pacific warfare area yes yes yeah and now it's part of san francosco san francs socio square so you go in and uh someone a cast member hands you you're sourdough and then you look
watch a video of rocio donal and callin mockery oh my god no you did not you totally did it's still there it's still there um if you want to know if you want to get a time get rocio donal is still sort of a celebrity right now callin mockery was part of whose lines it anyway right with drew
carry was an improv performer and uh and you don't hear about callin mockery anymore he's very funny he's like one of the best improvisers i've ever seen but this was like i just concept of celebrity back in the day let's take someone who has a tv show rocio donal and this person who's very funny
but who's famous gonna be sort of fleeting and we're gonna put them together and they're gonna talk about the history of bread uh in san francsisco oh they love doing that i think the dca opening day special had like berry boss wick and like so many i can't remember who the other and they just
toured the park and i was like those guys were relevant for like 15 minutes like yeah really kind of said by the way kevin this is so weird okay because when you originally put this in here i was like is he talking about the mission tortilla factory because literally right down the
path was a redundant attraction sponsored by mission tortilla where you saw them not make bread but make tortillas and they gave you tortillas yeah it was the exact same attraction uh it was just done differently was like oh you know this one's done uh i don't remember who sponsored
do you know the sponsored the bakery tour i don't know i don't know i know mission tortilla sponsored the mission tortilla i'm gonna go out on a limb which by the way later became the gear deli soda fountain um so like that building still stands so if you go to gear deli today know that that
was the uh the mission tortilla oh it's called mat it's called the boodan bakery tour you know who sponsors it boodan boodan diet doctor pepper no no that's our sponsor uh if only uh hey diet doctor pepper we're drinking your beverage your tasty delicious beverage right now both of us
we are fueled by diet doctor pepper by diet doctor pepper yeah so uh so the mission tortilla uh if i remember that i i actually got a tortilla there no warm and delicious i do like tortilla we should eat tortillas on this show at some point i hear that's popular in podcast eating on the
uh on the podcast is really the only way to make sure that you are listed in screen rant yeah and so that listeners know how things taste because you can if you can't hear us filling our gobs with giant uh tortillas then how do you know that the corn taste is delicious i heard a podcast did
that at steakhouse 71 i just i heard a gosh i gosh no stop it let's keep going let's go back to tomorrow land uh early days in tomorrow land so man this is interesting we we talked about this we did a whole show on mon santo at one point because mon santo will save us all until they kill us all um
but uh the mon santo hall of chemistry was kind of an interesting situation tomorrow land i actually i kind of loved this and i you know i'm looking at old pictures it's so mid-century it's something i really wish i could like go back and visit nowadays and it's so weird that you
know here's a whole thing about chemistry and how uh chemistry is uh you know gonna gonna save the world and um it was all like teal beige very mid-century and it was just like exhibits where you saw chemistry happening but you didn't really do any chemistry which is kind of funny um it's like
this is how we make you know certain things and it's like a diagram on the wall and like some beakers a lot of beakers in the uh in the old hola chemistry um i think this is fascinating because it's hard to put your finger on how big the scientific revolution was in the 20th century
and they were celebrating it even in places like disney land which is just kind of wild they had a um they took out an ad in the in the newspapers and it said mon santo into marlaine shows you the romance of chemistry oh my god and they talked about you know your food clothing housing and health
and transportation all depend on chemistry and the future holds some exciting wonderful things for you in store and then they had these like giant glass beakers that look like they were overflowing with uh with like solutions and it was called the chemitron oh i love this i do like this
so good so good so and and you can walk around yeah it was basically look at exhibit look at all the stuff um and it uh you know and it said mon santo were there's a giant hand looming over you from the ceiling that had like a glowing ball and that is very orwellian uh i don't love the hand
the ceiling with the eyeball but you know what this reminds me of it reminds me of Jurassic Park when he steals the beakers full of dna um out of the um out of the freeze room uh where they're being stored and he puts them in the barbass all can and that's exactly what's happening here is you
have these tiered like beaker displays where you could maybe you could take it's like spice racks they're like spice racks basically yeah yeah full of beakers where uh yeah if they had dna in there you might you know sell them for half a million dollars and uh allow someone to catch up on 15
years of research you'll you'll look around and be like hey i got a beaker from mon santo see no one cares so he's no one cares no we got beakers here we got beaker see nobody cares take the chemitron kev how about the the chemitron it's weird it's it's a weird balance here by the way
because you sort of want to say the awesome power of chemistry is going to change and revolutionize everything but the way that they presented it was like hey look how cozy and fun chemistry is so strange it's like if mission tortilla showed you the process of making a product and then
gave you the project product like that makes sense for a walkthrough attraction this one is just like this is how a product might be made in a lab we don't know what but something yeah it's like they don't give you a sample of like vision it's very weird so let's go to number 12 because I couldn't
and i don't think we could decide we talked a little bit we mentioned once in a while last season uh Disney's animal kingdom uh and so we didn't want to uh we didn't want to spread this out we didn't want to make this a whole thing we want to talk about all this sort of as a catch all and
these are the trails in Disney's animal kingdom these are so smart right they're smartly done because as you walk the trails you feel like you're immersed in the environments um where these animals would live naturally so if you're on the maharaja jungle trek and you're in Asia right
you not only do you see animals that live in Asia naturally you also see uh environments that sort of mimic ancient Asian ruins and I really love how they sort of put these things together they're safe walkthroughs they're expansive they're wide I often have noted on this show how great
it was to like push a stroller through these when my kids were small um they're they have canopies and shade there's one exhibit uh that's just bats where you just I mean you go through and see fruit bats and you can just look at them for an hour and they literally eat giant pieces of fruit and
their giant I mean these are like them pirish bats in the maharaja jungle trek they're amazing but that's not the only one guerrilla falls trails exist and the discovery island trails are there as you walk into the park so many great walkthroughs yeah I remember at one point and I don't know if
they're still there I've been to discovery trails thing and I'm just like looking around there's some animals I'm like oh animals animals and then I'm like I'm around the the tree of life and there's just kangaroos yeah and I was like when did they bring kangaroos in it was so good and then
the guerrilla falls like you see guerrillas and in the maharaja jungle trek you you're seeing a tiger like where do you just and the tiger doesn't look like he's constrained um they're just walking around hanging out tiger babies cubs in there it's amazing yeah so all of these trails we were I
was like should we make them separate lists should we put them all together should we only include one our favorite we can't pick a favorite it's maharaja jungle it is maharaja it's a different it is maharaja that's the best one it really that's the best one okay no we love that the the
most but they're all valid and I do like I make it a specific trip to walk through all of these things every time I'm there agreed and because you know animal kingdom you could say oh I wrote Everest and and kill a majaras of faries and uh fly to passage and you know that's it that's
all I need that's it that's a half day park but you know animal kingdoms always about exploration and these are the places where you're doing a guided tour you don't have to see everything you can you can literally just walk through and it's just nice um you don't have to follow anything
along you don't even have to see the bats you get to see the bad you can you can't you can't but yes you can skip around the bats if you want to which is nice yeah they have a lot of those things there's like areas where there's insects and spiders on the guerilla falls trails and all this
different stuff and so you can make any of that party for your day and Kevin uh you know as we as we leap forward here actually back in I don't know if we're leaping forward or back in time historically I think we're leaping forward to maybe one of the most important moments in American history the
walkthrough that I would not have thought of to put on this list but you intelligently did and I love this one it's actually a two two two two walkthroughs and one number eleven is the sailing ship Columbia which I think is one of the most underrated attractions in all of Disney history it's so
good so basically you go on an actual sailing ship um and it's on the water and you can just walk around through the rooms and look at all these places where like the people that would be on the Columbia would like live in you can see the hammocks you can see the mess hall um I recently saw
that uh that last voyage of the demeter that terrible vampire movie and it looked just like the inside of the sailing ship Columbia it was awesome it was like you got to see where they slept and where they eat um and it's it's literally as if like the sailors were like they're all on deck
and you're just like oh I I can just wander around downstairs and you know go below decks and look at and and see how they live here it's really fascinating and like you could spend like an hour just looking around yes absolutely it's great and as a great history goes all the way back to like
admiral Joe Fowler helping them create the concept for this um it it sales in line with the uh mark twain and what do they call the canoes the Davy Crockett Explorer canoes now um I didn't want to call them by the wrong name uh it's pretty insensitive these days but yes all of those things are in motion the kinetic rivers of america hosts the Columbia and it plays a super important role obviously in phantasmic but this is one of those attractions Kevin that I waited to see for the first time it
took me like three times of going to Disneyland before this was finally open for me to actually board get on board and move around the the rivers of america and my wife was like why do you want to do this I'm like because it's so cool it opened in 1958 it's super old school admiral Joe Fowler played
a huge role in Disneyland and in the Waltzies World project and so you have his connection and you know the the history of the Columbia itself is amazing I love this walkthrough well okay so now go we're sticking with number 11 that is back in the past let's like fast forward to today and the
sirens revenge in treasurer cove and Shanghai Disneyland same sort of thing you you can go in you can explore the ship you can go all the way through it's it's exactly the same situation it's just you know it's a little bit updated and it's in its own sort of like pirate area that the treasurer
cove area in Shanghai Disneyland it's a whole new land um you know dedicated to sort of pirates and sailing and in that and whatnot but sirens revenge is the same thing you can go on you can look through the the downstairs the I keep saying downstairs the lower decks the under under carriage
uh it's great um and so this is unfortunately one uh attraction that I have not been on because I have not been to Shanghai Disneyland even though this this weekend I talked with my financial advisor and tried to get him to figure out how I could go to China so I can see Shanghai
Disneyland because I'm chomping in the bit here I need to see this place but uh but yeah so super old school still being made today really really amazing can you sail this ship around treasurer cove that's the most important question is it simply a walk through the ports I think it's just
in the port okay okay because is the sailing ship Columbia just in port no it's sales yeah so that's what makes it extra special is you get to do the walk through while it's sailing much like the Liberty Bell in the Mark Twain yeah and and I had thought about putting the Liberty Bell Mark Twain in here but those are really just you're looking at the outside correct more than the inside yes um even though last time uh Jeff and I were in Disney World and we were on the Mark Twain there's
like one thing that said you know don't go in here this is for for staff only or whatever but I'm like that's not or that doesn't say cast member it's a staff so that is a fake sign so I went in and like sat in this this like a little area and Jeff got really nervous like you're not staff
you're not safe at all but anyway let's let's stick to uh to the Asian area and let's talk about some place that I have been to and one thousand percent love fairy tale forest in fantasy land in Hong Kong oh my god this is like an updated walk through version of the storybook land canal boats
that's kind of what I took away from this yeah I mean if you've been to uh to fantasy land in Disneyland like you know how at the at the castle you have that a hunchback of Notre Dame thing where you crank the thing and there's music playing so this is filled with those interactive interactive
right so yeah you can a lot of these like you can take your picture it's a very Instagramable land take your picture in front of this like ornate frame and there's like castles on the background like the frozen castle or the beating the beast castle but then there are these little diaramas where you
can crank a thing a crank and they'll they'll like bring these things into motion like the um the main street uh window diaramas they're like that but you're you're the one making it happen and the music is happening and I'm actually making the crank are you cranking right now I'm cranking
right now um but you'd like the uh you know the scene in in Rapunzel in in uh tangled where the lights come down like you can make that happen and that's like sort of set into a bush and then you like all the sudden the beating the beast you can make um this uh the scene from little mermaid happen
where like water goes everywhere it's awesome I love the gates as you walk through um to visit this particular attraction I love that it uh it's it's it's just kind of an updated version of things that we already love but it has you know it has um scenes and sets from different films that
are not necessarily the same as those that we find on other attractions it's really hard to find tangled in environments or miniature scenes it's hard to find snow white uh miniatures and sets um and these kinds of things Cinderella is even kind of difficult to find with the mice and this kind
of stuff but you find all of that here and each one of these area you sort of take a winding path and each of these areas sort of unveil themselves to you and I just think that's such a really neat concept I believe also that Tony Baxter worked on this oh I believe it uh because it's so charming
and so quaint and like we went to Hong Kong Disneyland and we're like okay we need to go on mystic manor we need to go on grizzly gulps and uh and then we stumbled across this like fairytale forest and we're like this is one of the best things I've ever seen um it's like when we're in
Tukyo Disney scene everyone's like going these big rides and then Sinbad's storybook adventure happens and you're like oh my god this thing this thing is perfect this is like when someone told me to do Dr. Seuss at Universal Studios they're like you will love the Dr. Seuss thing maybe even
as much as you love everything else and then I got there and I was like I do love this Dr. Seuss here wait I can't the hat right I have no idea why it's so good it's like but to those Charming rides were fun they are charming they are charming we're watching PBS and I'm like all
like in the environment this is so interesting so Matt uh so let's bounce back oh no no we're staying in Asia um Matt this thing okay yeah this is a thing right Kevin had a whole thing about this by the way he's like we're gonna do a whole show on this we're not gonna talk too much
about this because this is insane he sent me three separate messages saying that we we need to kind of pin this one for later show use all right the Cinderella Castle mystery tour in Fantasy Land and Tokyo Disneyland it opened in 1986 and stuck around for two decades so it was a Disney
villains attraction and it's notable because it was one of the very few uses of the black cauldron oh Disney theme parks it was a black cauldron attraction what the horn king was there horn king so basically it was this walkthrough you go in it was called the Cinderella Castle mystery
tour you walk through and your your guide takes you through and basically you go through a series of rooms that get progressively creepier it's a haunted house situation I love this eventually one kid gets like the sword and faces against the horn king oh my god this is like wizards and warriors
are like festers quest or something I'm like going through the castle trying to find the the boss Baldur's Gate is you know all this stuff it's yes exactly I love this so much this is so smart it's one of those things in Tokyo where it is one of the scariest things you'll ever encounter
I've watched some walkthroughs of this and I'm like how did people not run screaming from this ride or from this attraction and because I would this was in the castle in the castle I don't think there is anything right there now but it yeah it was in the castle and just amazing so this was
like a full-on spooky attraction where a guy took you through I don't know if your guide like disappears at any point which is scarier so the horn king actually appears at the end you have Maleficent right and the dragon and what are Maleficent's little goblins called I forgot
uh and then you have the old peddler I love this I love I love the so you put some like poster art of this and it's like the magic mirror like talking to you mirror mirror on the wall but the rest of this attraction is like these little labyrinths beneath the like the stones that created
the bedrock of the castle this is just so neat looking yeah I really really love this it's really like this is this should be the template for like a villain's land yeah I was thinking sorcerers of the magic kingdom probably took inspiration from this yes yeah very much so um just a little
less creepy and a little bit more for American audiences but this this is really something that you know if you if you can see a walkthrough anywhere uh definitely check it out but we will be doing a full exploration of this at some point uh because it is maybe for Halloween ooh that would be
bananas I like it I like it Kevin let's move forward we've talked a lot about Disney history here I mentioned Walt Disney the man in the intro to the show and we do have a walkthrough attraction that explores Walt Disney's history so the 100 years of magic celebration the off dimension
100 years of magic celebration uh at Walt Disney World celebrated Walt Disney the man and made Walt a human took his name from the you know from the theme park entrances and the entrances of the uh property and assigned them to a person who was a real dude with a real history
and one man's dream opened in 2000 2001 it was found in the animation courtyard at then Disney MGM studios it was later redeemed to Walt Disney presents and it took you on a chronological history of Walt Disney the man and then how he came to use technology and media to create
basically the foundation of what is now the Disney company yeah so you see his actual life which is cool and like all these like seeds that are planted like he loved Abraham Lincoln he loved his brother right uh you know and uh like a little much uh he's like I'm gonna go into the army
when I'm 14 why why are you doing this are you doing this Walt uh but yeah so you see those things and then uh and then you go all the way up to like the current day and then you get to see a fun film strip about well not a film strip but like a little movie narrated by Julie Andrews really
really cool um but most of it is just like a wander through you can look at like here's how Peter Pan the ride works yes and here's how all this other stuff happens so that changed my life by the way it's so like when I first saw it and I was like what this is how everything happens oh my god
that changed my life it really did they used to have the first like animatronic in there for Lincoln they had Walt Disney um and the Epcot map behind him and he was just a cardboard cutout but it showed like the Epcot film that they showed the Florida legislatures you mentioned the Peter Pan ride
through they also had like Walt Disney's desk like replicas of these things and they even had things like the multi plane camera demonstration in there and they still have that and it's really really cool um they showed buddy Epson being used as like a small animatronic and uh all of this
stuff gave you a sense of history for Walt Disney as a storyteller going all the way back to the Oswald and Mickey Mouse and silly symphony days all the way to three-dimensional storytelling and the the practices that they use now you know it's so interesting that sometimes we forget
that so much of early Disney was about like invention um and and when I first like when I first saw that multi plane camera I remember when I was very young seeing uh the old mill and wondering how they did that and I would I would try to be like do you look through that picture and seeing that like
as an adult I was like oh that's how they did a no idea it's zooming through these planes of animation and you see this in like Ikebod crane you see it in snow white they use this for all their very popular films it's used very well in some and some others it's not used as much uh but very
forties very fifties um they really use this to give a sense of depth within their pictures something that animation had never done at the time yeah they did it really really well in Pinocchio and then later on I remember in Beating the Beast they did it and uh and I was like oh they're
going back like to the old school way and doing it and it really late looked so good but let's talk about let's go uh to the uh the other four let's go back to the foreign parks um this is something that's interesting because this is one case where the American version is nothing and the the
Paris the Hong Kong Disneyland and the Shanghai versions are awesome so this is the also wonderland hedge maces now there's one in the UK Pavilion Nebcott um you wouldn't know it kind of uh it kind of it's you sort of can walk around a little maze it's not really it's just it's like a garden
and that's it they're missing this this could really really be cool the Alps's curious labyrinths in Fantasyland Disneyland Paris is so cool you wander around and your basic goal is to go from the outside of the maze to get to the castle in the middle of the maze the the um the red queens
castle but it's there's all these like curly cues inside things the chisholk cat appears a few times telling you to go sort of the wrong way um it's really really cool when when Jeff and I were there the first time it was uh not great because it was like you know they hadn't really cleaned it
up or wherever the second time we went it was pristine it looked beautiful very well painted um I loved everything about this and I like I got lost in it a little bit but this is something that like you would think the Disney world would have something I know because it's not I don't think it's
that I think it's cost effective I would agree especially in a place like UK where they have reserved that space for afternoon entertainment but it's an entertainment that you have to go out of your way to kind of find like you can hear it in the distance and but you'll see Alice right there
across from Rosencrown like taking pictures with children and families and um yeah this could really make a dent in that UK pavilion I think that that would be really fun I am obsessed with these hedge maces I don't know why it might be a Missouri thing where we have corn maces everywhere
and so the idea of this like agent of chaos Cheshire cat like leading you astray and you know the you know the Stephen King connection here like all these things working together I did to me you know I sat the last time I was on the Disney magic I sat up on the top deck and I watched
Alice in Wonderland at like seven in the morning and like eight ice cream which you I don't recommend uh but I was just like this movie is so weird and interesting like I can't believe they release this in the fifties I can't really believe they released this ever but it's so interesting if
you watch it you're like well how do I who am I rooting for in this movie it's hard to find someone no yeah so I so Matt and I are a little bit divided on this movie because I do not like this movie at all which one else in Wonderland also Wonderland okay I'm a huge fan of the books the
books are two my favorite books of all time I don't think they've ever adapted it well as a movie but I do think they've adapted it well as theme park attractions especially this the the labyrinths are awesome I will say though so the one in person I believe the one in Hong Kong
have the classic Alice characters like very recognizable like you know the ones from the animated film the one in Shanghai takes from the live action like horrible the worst possible thing that's ever been on on the film Tim Burton's like live action the highest grossing movie in the history of
the month of March it's um there's words I can't say on on a family podcast it is it is terrible to watch it is it is like if you're if you put your like a bunch of thumbtacks on the on a desk and then jammed your face into the thumbtacks it would be better than watching this movie um and then
the attraction as Helen a bottom Carter Helen a bottom Carter's giant head which they for some reason decided to explain in the movie it's there it's just it's it's not as good the hedge maze itself is kind of cool like you can walk through in Shanghai there's three different entrances that lead
you to three different paths that's fine but focusing it on the live action the quote unquote live action film with Johnny Depp was a bad idea it was a mistake it was a huge mistake you can at least identify like if you go on the Alice in Wonderland Dark Ride at Disneyland like it's a very good ride
like it goes it's got that inside out feature right as Hill I mean there's all these different things that it has that no other dark ride has ever had or attempted to have but they you they don't really tell the story of Alice in a like concrete way because you can't do that in a linear
fashion I think if you're okay bear with me quickly I think if you're a fan of Willie Wankin the chocolate factory raw doll wizard of laws then though to me those are like the precursors for being a fan of like the Alice in Wonderland movie because it's just like a person stumbling into
these weird rooms with weird characters and like bizarre things happen and the comedy is dark and it's odd but it's also interesting in a way and like nothing else is quite done that the way that those three stories have yeah like basically the main character is like they don't necessarily
affect anything by being there it's just like they they are the stick calm center and chaos happens around them so weird you can also kind of extend that to the first Indiana Jones movie by the way oh yeah he doesn't even need to be there he does not need to be there just a lot of stuff happens
around him and that's cool so when he told me that what's I was like oh you're right there's still open the arm so Kevin let's keep this going here I really like this choice this is something that you brought to the show you also brought the Shanghai version of the Alice in Wonderland headspace
by the way which I was trying to ignore however we did get to discuss it thank you Tim Burton number six on our list is straight from Tune Town Mickey Starland Mickey's birthday land Mickey and minis houses which were walk through attractions and continue to be walk through attractions in
Tune Town where you could explore the world of Mickey and mini now when I first went on Mickey's house walkthrough in 1989 I thought that this was about the coolest thing ever at that point Mickey Mouse had been in like one film in like the last 30 years which was the Christmas Carol film
where he came back on screen and so I was a big fan obviously Mr Eisner brought Mickey Mouse back into the fold as a main character for Disney and so being able to explore something like Mickey Mouse's house when you're nine years old was like a really really big deal now this was a less
cartoony sort of three-dimensional animation version like the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse this was like very tuned townish who frame Roger Rabbit as if you're walking through the set of Mickey's world and I really really appreciated that I still think that these are fun walkthroughs that kids enjoy
or would enjoy like I remember back in the early days of 3028 and I was like oh I'm so happy these are going in favor of this like this new land and you're like no because my kids loved walking through it and only when I finally went to Disneyland and actually like walk through I was like oh these
are great they're fun they're so fun I mean and here's the thing the only the only the criticism I would have is that they weren't very interactive spaces I think if they did these now like for a Mickey's birthday land or star land they would have done them much better but at the time they kind of rushed jobed a lot of that imaginary work just to get this online for Mickey's 60th which is weird who celebrates their 60th but but the walkthroughs themselves were fun because you could identify
them from the street and then you could walk through them so they were immersive in that sense what's interesting is that there was a lot of immersion in Tune Town itself but when you get into like you know in Tune Town when they finally brought it to Disneyland but not in the houses so it's kind
of weird also where are Mickey and Minnie and why are you breaking into their hall I know where are they they were never in there by the way yeah that is weird right you think that there'd be some sort of meet and greet inside but they were never inside I wonder if it's because the the scale
was different yeah the scale was definitely different the ceilings were small um you know like Mickey's piano was in there his kitchen you know all the stuff that Mickey has that you have in your house identifiable like things in your home or also in Mickey's house and that was kind of cool
it may it personified Mickey in a way that really had never been done before in a theme park here's what Mickey looks like when he's not on screen like you sort of think of Mickey now as as going on like as an actor here's what he looks like when he's not acting that's kind of an interesting
concept that Hollywood studios eventually would bring out a little bit more remember you could go into balloon dressing room at one point yes kind of weird they did that at Tune Town at Disneyland as well oh did they now they did it for like the Disney afternoon thing oh oh like launch pad
my quack yes yes all your friends uh oh your friends gizmo gizmo duck was that one of them I don't like it yeah oh god gizmo duck was a it was a series of four episodes but it was released also as its own movie and the whole gizmo duck thing it was so great anyway let's talk about
this one this is another two-parter the sleeping beauty castle walkthrough in Disneyland which when I first went in this I was like what is happening why is this the best thing that's ever happened same I had no idea this existed the first time I went to Disneyland I was like oh my god they have
a attraction in the castle like that's a thing I didn't even know it and it was sort of interactive like when you go up there's like I just love the whole diorama thing at Disney like so you go up there's all these dioramas like at one point you could knock on a door and something on the other
side would knock back which is so cool um you could look in and there'd be like flying uh one of those spinning machine yeah yeah spinning wheel spinning wheels um and and at one point if you look long enough like Maleficent will show up and turn into a giant dragon as you're watching I love it
I love it it's mostly a passive experience but I think that those are okay like not everything has to be interactive right and I think that this really works and like this is basically taking the cartoon how do I want to explain this in a in in a way like you know you you're watching the movie
of sleeping beauty and then you go in and then you're seeing like you see a roar you see like all these 3d things but this is taking a distillation of the film and presenting it in a series of still things it's sort of in between the 3d reality and the 2d like fantasy it's somewhere in the middle
and it it's something um that I think Disney Land does better than almost any other Disney park in the world it's kind of like the windows on Main Street in a way yeah the way that those are sort of you know moving kinetic and you see but you not seeing the story take place over a series of scenes
in the way that you are here I mean this basically tells you the tale of sleeping beauty as you ascend and then descend through the castle I again like this is like one of my favorite things in Disney so when people say oh it's just a walkthrough I'm like yeah but like sleeping beauty castle walkthrough is like the greatest thing ever like how can you ever say just a anything I have a having an analogy here it is like a viewfinder ooh do you remember okay so for for those of you who are not
Gen X a long time ago we had these things called viewfinders and they were these red things that look like binoculars that you put on your face and inside you put like a disc with a series of pictures like 3d pictures and you would like click a button and you would look through and these
pictures would like show up and they would just be like it would be a slideshow but just for you this is what this is this is what the sleeping beauty walkthrough is and there's a similar one in Paris there's the Cinderella Castle walkthrough but that doesn't I mean it has some of the same
things but you can walk around like the sort of parapet and look down on people walking through the castle on the ground floor which is really cool there's like trees that come up it's like you're looking in the middle of a courtyard there's like you're like on a balcony on top looking down
exactly exactly and there are all these you know not dioramas but there's a stained glass windows that sort of show the story of Cinderella which are really great and really amazing but it's not the same sort of function as a sleeping beauty castle walkthrough so walking through the sleeping
beauty castle walkthrough is like walking through the corridors of the castle in a way that maybe you shouldn't be right like I'm in a place in the castle where like other guests aren't right now and I'm walking through these spaces it kind of reminds me of you know the show that we're
gonna do eventually the mystery tour in the sense that you're walking through spaces within the castle that feel kind of intimate and exclusive and it's like it's like being able to go through the utilitourst at yes you know what I mean at magic kingdom like am I supposed to be here no you're
not sir please put your hands behind your back but you are inside the castle looking the dioramas are only part of the experience because the actual experience is the bowels of the castle itself it's a voyeuristic experience and and the whole thing is is that you know how a lot of the the
dark rise originally were like you are the main character in here and or and then later on you are watching the main character this is somewhere in between that you are a you're a non-existent viewer that which is hard to explain you were like a fourth party you're the you're the fourth wall
that's really fun yeah you're not part of this story at all yeah who are you supposed to be in the story you're just someone who is observing it but you're also in the space where the story exists yeah yeah it's you're almost like a ghost in this it's very cool it's very weird like
you're a ghost it's like a it's a creepy situation that you don't exist in but then you do it's so cool they should tell you you're a ghost when you walk in by the way pretend you're a ghost when you're in here so Matt speaking of speaking of dead technologies let's talk about so this is
we mentioned this we sort of mentioned earlier in the show number four the monsanto house of the future oh my god this is incredible I'm sorry I am not a monsanto fan but this is amazing I read a whole book like a legit textbook about the monsanto house of the future like last month it was
wildly impractical it was really weird it would never work as a house and I love everything about they had to destroy it with a wrecking ball they tried to destroy the wrecking ball and they couldn't and they could bounce off stop that's how durable your plastics will be so envision a future right
where you live in a world consumed by plastics and that's what the house of the future is it's got that raised sort of tree house look and as you walked through tomorrow land you can envision yourself living with the modern conveniences that only plastics could provide brought to you by
monsanto and you had to ascend up into this house you could experience it in real time this is what it would be like to live in a so I guess they would consider it like sustainable housing of the time yeah yeah everything inside the house was plastic all of the seats all of the plates all of the
tables everything was plastic and the the two kids rooms were divided by a screen oh it was yeah they actually did a reefer but I didn't know this they originally released this or showed this and it was like really cool very space age but they it was it was really like kind of off-putting
it was very 2001 space honestly and so later on they humanize a little bit added some more color added some more like human elements so there's like teaky's in here because that was the day and like this was a very old school old old timey thing and but it looks like it looks like a mid-century
modern version of the future like you know and and it doesn't have a man it doesn't have I can't imagine a person like living here no no this is a concept this is like concept housing right like a concept car right and they had like other models like you could do here's what an
apartment version of this would look like here's what a rant style home like this would look like but they were all in this like plastic fantastic situation and some in the book I read they pointed out like this might be a fun vacation home for a week yeah I can see that like that would
make sense yeah we have underground homes here in Missouri obviously we have lots of caves and stuff and people will rent those out so that you can experience what it feels like to live in a house that's embedded into the side of a rock where one half is windows and the other half you know
can't possibly have any because you're underground so this is a really interesting concept for the park I actually like this idea for tomorrow and they brought in like MIT architects to do this monsanto did and this was a really interesting concept that later shows up in like
interventions for the dream home brought to you by Microsoft and this is just one of those weird mid-century Disney things that like nobody else was doing and if you if you go around LA nowadays you'll see like examples like this there's some coffee houses that still look like this
the theme building outside LAX sort of looks like this this was a big thing you know back in the day and they they really tried to make this like here's what the future would look like and I think if they built something like this as an Airbnb you know I would love that that would make a lot of
sense you know you turn on the TV you're watching old-timey TV shows you know Betty White's on your TV buddy buddy you know right like she's always on your TV of course she is she's still on my TV uh but yeah that's a great idea you should build that kept somebody you know what somebody should
help us fund that here on this yeah this will only cost what seven million dollars yeah billion dollars yeah put it somewhere by the way if you want to walk through Disneyland today and see tomorrow land outside the Matterhorn was where this is found this is like where Pixie Hollow is and they still
have like the concrete platform upon which this stood yeah yeah you can actually like sit on the platform where this thing was we're gonna put these in the Instagram because the pictures of this are awesome like everything about this is awesome but the more I read the book of the more I'm like I never like I had thought about living in a place like this it would point of like I never ever would buddy I got to show you some pods and weird stuff where like people lived in the town I grew up in
it's just but people like lived in like igloos that were like made out of concrete in the town I grew very odd uh but this was a very mid-century thing people made this stuff like that to live in so Matt let's uh let's flash forward to the the the the bleeding edge of the present day the reason
why we did this episode uh Matt number three is one of the newest attractions at any Disney park in the world the journey of water inspired by Moana in world nature and upcut which is crazy too because like we mentioned this at the very early part of the show where you did is that when 20 000
leagues opened at Disneyland at tomorrow and this was an early like IP in place of what could have been like a sponsored attraction so Disney taking a project or product that they owned and displaying it in the park in a new way that allowed you to explore it this takes that idea and like turns up
the volume to 11 where you're walking through like an outdoor what's the way to describe the rock formations there like it's it's it's almost like a hedge maze but made of rocks yeah yeah like almost like a rock maze right that's exploratory that allows you to interact with water and learn
about the cycle of water at the same time in a way that Moana would within the film so it's a very meta concept it's it's interesting how well this works considering it is so meta like I'm Moana I'm making this water do stuff oh this water can also make noise oh and I'm learning about how water
travels through our ecosystem all of this happens at the walkthrough that is the journey of water I have no criticisms of this attraction I think it's a wonderful addition to world nature it gives the plaza areas of of Epcot this sort of walkable breathing life that it never had before yeah this
is it's fascinating because you could take Moana out and it wouldn't change it all that much but having her in and having like that little touchstone really makes it feel even more interactive it is gonna bring younger kids and at night it's even better oh you're right oh my god there's this one
part we're looking at this waterfall and you see spaceship earth through the waterfall and it is one of the best things in the world but yeah it's like you're interacting with this this is the the basic tenets of what Epcot is built on when I first heard about this I'm like this gonna be
lines my friends like it's a walkthrough walkthrough and I'm like no I need to get there early I need to get a fastpass for like you don't what you talk to like heaven it's an a ticket bro oh take it out oh my god but I just I love everything about this like Matt said no criticisms at all
it is it's wonderful and and this is where I'm hoping rides and attractions are going to where they have an idea they're like okay we can do this idea but we need to have an IP on it and how to smartly do that IP without changing the integrity of the attraction and and this is I'm hoping that
this happens more and more okay Kevin uh so definitely experience that the next time you're in Epcot number two on our list is the fortress explorations mediterranean harbor Tokyo Disney see I've never experienced this but Kevin has so Jeff and I went here this is the origin of the S.E.A. I love
everything about it and it it's basically it's in the Mediterranean Harbor it's a giant castle it's a fortress you walk through you go through all these different rooms it is the the concept of it is it was established in 1538 amidst the golden age of exploration the society of explorers and
adventures were a big part of this it was a fictional story but then the S.E.A. sort of like takes over everything but it is you won't believe how massive these rooms are there's like there's a storyline that you can follow but you don't have to there's an you know you you it's sort of like a scavenger hunt but you don't have to follow it if you don't want to but you go into this giant planetarium you're looking like way up there's there's this um huge rotunda here it's a rotunda it's a
star map the constellations are everywhere um you know and and I can't you know you know big the thing is they reminds me of the movie Prometheus like it reminds me of the part where they're on the ship where the makers are and this sort of celestial three-dimensional map opens up to them that's what this looks like to me there's a part where you can like there's a uh a water area in the middle where you can like move sailing ships around I can't believe this exists this looks like the very last
season of Game of Thrones when they're like planning their quest inside Dragonstone like this is so cool you can just like and it's a wander through attraction like you Matt Jeff and I spent so long just walking through there's like outside parts where you can look down there's a part where you
can go outside and like fake shoot a cannon at this like a ship in the harbor it's amazing everything about this is and you it take it at your own pace if I had like three weeks at Tuckia Disney Sea which you can totally spend three weeks to get it I would spend an entire day here yes and just
walk around it I would never get bored it's a half-day park kev it's a half day attraction uh whatever this attraction is a half-day park Kevin I love that concept definitely put those in the show notes that Planetarium room blew my mind I have never seen this before I'm like wildly
impressed but kev we get to number one on our list of Disney walkthroughs Disney walkthrough ology I had to save this for number one because I think that this is one of the smartest early walkthroughs that Disney ever created in fact I think it's the the predecessor for many of the
most experiential and passive walkthroughs that come next it takes you inside the film but does it in a meta way where you become a character and can observe what other characters within the story are doing it is the Swiss family treehouse in adventure land at Disneyland Magic Kingdom Disneyland
pairs Tokyo Disneyland does not surprise me that this is in every park in adventure land and we got a recent update for this this is a 2-2-2 walkthroughs in one with the adventure land treehouse which recently referred in Disneyland itself and also by the way it's also going to have some S.E.A.
connections I found out in adventure land but yeah this is this is the OG this is the first walkthrough attraction I know one of the first walkthrough attractions but this is like I remember reading that like someone said well no none of your theme park guests are gonna want to walk up this
giant staircase and he's like if if I do it right they're gonna want to they do want to this thing is you're going through this treehouse you're looking at all these rooms look I've never seen the Swiss family Robinson and I love this attraction you go through you're looking at the kitchen
you're looking at the bedrooms you're looking at like the Swiss Capocla area and you're just fascinating because these things are all taken from the ship that originally like crashed on this island in the like to bet Tobago you know in the middle of the ocean where there's no civilization
and and they they've made things out of nature and out of the ship parts and it is a cozy family living situation it's amazing yeah old Imagineers animators from Disney worked on this concept for the film worked on this concept for the Disneyland theme park it was later expanded for other theme
parks it fits into adventure land it's the perfect setting for adventure land like you can't make it any better it's just it's like serendipitous that like they had an adventure land and exotic land within the park and this film that explores exotic turn it ad in Tobago was was
something that that Disney created in a time where they had it's crazy this was a film created out of necessity they had to use their monies made in western Europe and create a film for Northwestern Europeans so they did this kind of film and they used Mr Mills to be the sort of
centerpiece of the family the father and you know it's supposed with this Swiss slash British family had to endure as they were Robinson Coruse ode out in the middle of the wild it is such an interesting concept it's immersive like Matt said you know you are the the characters in this
later on um in Disneyland they they updated changed it to a Tarzan ride or a Tarzan attraction which actually wasn't bad um you know it I think I think the Tarzan right now I'm not going to say that it was better but I think you know using a second tree and um really he's kind of sticking
with the egg to rice burrowsness of it didn't really hurt as much as I thought it would um but now like that's going away and they're making just the adventure land treehouse and I don't know what that's going to look like but like Matt said this attraction is a Disneyland is at uh Walt Disney World
it was an opening day attraction Walt Disney World it's in Paris it's in Hong Kong it's not in Shanghai and it's not I don't think it's in Tokyo but Tokyo has four to six locations it doesn't need this uh but this is like beautiful it's gorgeous it's in nature you can look down at the
rest of adventure land and it uh you know and it you go at your own pace you know you can stop uh you can move to the side when other people are coming up you can just chill out you can't sit in anything any of these things but you can just literally hang out in a tree and explore and just
have your Disney day and that's one of the best things about these walkthrough attractions is that you explore your own pace you don't have to rush you don't have to slow down you can go in and explore a Disney attraction uh at a you don't have anybody telling you how to do this this is all on
your own and you are the star of your own story well Kevin I love these walkthroughs um there's more that we could have talked about Disney historically has had tons of walkthroughs we have a couple things that we wanted to mention quickly an honorable mention for this it really easily could have
been on the list and an honorable mention that you came up with was the red wood creek challenge trails and I love those yeah they're they're great the red wood creek challenges I've done them discovery island at Shanghai Disney is similar to this concept there's also something called the
mini hoony bridge uh at Olaunny they're all explorations where you're like looking around and doing stuff um but they're interactive like you you have to like uh you know go like fly across a rope bridge or you know do all this other stuff or in the mini hoony bridge it's more for little
kids and you have to go on slides while you're looking for the minohonies um so I I would say that these are less viewing and more doing uh where you know most of the other walkthrough attractions we talked about are they can be passive they can be active but you know either way
here they're a little bit more active well we need to talk about some dishonorable mentions here and I bring it up every episode because this is one of the worst in history Kevin it is the prince caspian walkthrough in the animation courtyard at Disney's MGM slash Hollywood studios it
might be the worst walkthrough attraction I've ever been ever been on partially because the film was so not good um and then why have this to promote it this was a really not great thing yeah like it's just like some props and like but just like not even like interesting no I also want to
talk about we talked about this last season the dinosaur Jubilee uh for a ride for a attraction that has this amazing title it was bland uh it was a tent it was a it's a temporary tent that had some dinosaurs stuff in it it was not historically accurate it was like early days of animal kingdom
here's a saber to tiger next to a brontosaurus no please don't do it Disney uh well these have been really really fun we brought in extras that you know we kind of expanded this list normally we'd have 10 we did more so hopefully you enjoyed it I know I love all of these walkthroughs
are some on this list that I'm dying to do some that Kevin have done some that neither of us have done and so and and then some we're gonna explore later like a good like a good walkthrough you can keep coming back uh so if you want to come back to the show we encourage it you can also leave
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understand today right yeah like there's no operators are not standing by it's just it's all a lot of made it everyone nowadays I need someone standing by I want to just hang it out at the telepath at all times oh boy