If you're using it in a way that you're bringing down and not to be all peace and love and Jay Coley about it, but if you're using it a way to bring down your fellow artist. And Jay Coley. Jay Coley about it if. You're using it in channel Inner Spirit of of of Jay Cole. The. What is going on? What's up? What's what's what's up? Everybody? Welcome to the 30% podcast. The 30% podcast. This week someone asked me what the 30% podcast was and I almost forgot.
Of course I didn't know that's that's false. What did you say it? No, I told them, yeah, it's about the, you know, we, we, we worked on it. I mean, it came up when we're looking at the Kenyan music scene and we figured out that, you know, just 30% of music of Kenyan music is played on Kenyan radio. And we're playing all these other songs and we're really vibing to all those sounds. But we really need to grow. We need to grow our, our music industry. So we need to play more Kenyan music.
And so that's why we called it the 30% podcast. And I did not get a wow, that's really, I was waiting for like, wow, that's really insightful. I didn't get none of that. They're just like, oh, OK, how do you search for it on Instagram? I was like, all right, you guys are anyway, welcome to 30% podcast. This is this is I am Sam, Sam, I am I do not like green eggs and ham. I like ham.
I don't know about green eggs. And I'm here with the greatest of all time, the legendary the the slightly sick Alpha Mefuna Afam. What's going on man? Sorry I lit you up. As Sam has just said, I I am feeling a bit under the. Yeah, but energy though, I'm here. Why do people, why you, why you don't be sulking when you're sick. I. Don't have any and I I'm, I'm very energy less right now, but yes, I'm here man I'm here. Hosted by Sam and the Energy less AFAM.
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But then also like it's been weird because I'm feeling like like a like a stomach bug as well. So it's just, it's just, I feel very icky right now. But other than that, it's just been about recovery during the. I mean, that's what I've been doing the week during the. I can't even speak like English is lost on me right now. That's how my week. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's how my week has been, really just me being under the weather. Aside from that, just been working on a bunch of music.
Yeah. I actually made a ton of beats this week. Also been working on editing videos. Yeah. I've been saying that's been really interesting. Yeah, yeah, just kind of tinkering, seeing what the algorithm likes. Sometimes it's like, well, you know, am I going to sit around and wait to like find like dope video editors to like kind of do do stuff for me or like I'm just going to learn it myself. So yeah, just kind of decided to learn how to. Yeah, because it's easier.
It's just way easier. So that's currently what the industry has done to me, man. It has also made me. VJ Editor. Figure out how to how to edit videos because unfortunately not unfortunately, you also just have to find innovative ways to market the music. And that's what I've really been, that's what's been in my mind a lot this week, just thinking about how can I market music and merge that with visuals with a limited budget.
And I was like, OK, yes, now because since I have a limited budget, let me learn how to do the videos. So that's really what my week has been. Are there any similarities between editing and like editing videos and editing beats? Because we do edit beats, Essentially that's what we're doing is we edit. Beats yeah, yeah, actually, there are a lot of similarities, man. I really respect the craft of like, editing videos. It's really fun.
Although it's really, it's really nice because it's like you spend a long time editing a 32nd clip and you put a lot of effort into the transitions and the cuts and like the timing of things and everything. Yeah, just for 30 seconds. But like, it's really fulfilling once you do something like there's sometimes you, you have like some really random moments of like, this is actually insane. Like there's one editor I made and I was just experimenting
things. So I just like cut, I cut the the the I cut the clip and then I, I chopped it into like multiple pieces. Yeah, I don't know how to explain this. Yeah, this is into audio, Audio podcast. This is not to describe and I'm doing hard. To describe editing in an audio podcast, Yeah, let's see how you do this. Yeah, but like I chopped it into multiple pieces.
I left spaces in between and then I like, I like, like, like gradually increased like the volume of the music bed and like, I don't know how to, And then I timed the drop perfectly. It was such an amazing like thing. Like I did like just on the spur of the moment and I was like, yeah, this is actually really fun. I'm kind of so I, I've been just like editing on Cop Cut because like it's free, but over late. They've what they've done.
They've introduced the they've yeah, they've introduced a pro version and I'm so upset with Cop Cut, man Y'all, you guys were supposed to be for the people, man. What's the why? Why did you have to make a pro version? And then like, because now like there's a bunch of dope transitions, there's a bunch of dope transitions, effects and all that type of stuff that's now in the pro tier. And I'm like, bro, like we had this stuff for free literally two weeks ago.
Like why? This was so unnecessary, man. Capitalism is annoying. We knew that. AFAM was going to start editing and he's going to need this thing, so we need to get Afam's money. Yeah, they get you hooked. But you know what? I will not pay for your service. There we go. In fact, you might. You're not using. You can't find that different. Are you boycotting? And you're the unique. No. How am I losing? And find a different platform to edit on. Yeah. There there you go. You lost.
You lost. You lost a dedicated user. Ha ha, ha. Well, well, maybe one day Capcot will want to like sponsor this podcast, At which point I'd like to say Capcot. I was unwell. I was unwell and. Like I was brain, brain heart connection again, that brain heart connection. Oh, that's cool. Sorry, sorry about the sickness though. That's it's really crazy. I'm sure you want to be outside and just linking and building and and and doing a lot, but you're stuck in the house.
It's so hot over here. I don't. I don't even want to be outside. God Dang, it's summer. It's summer, right? Dang, how can you have a cold in summer? It's yeah, it's like summer, but it's like the end of spring. Sorry bro. Yeah, man, I've. Been How about yourself? How was your week? I've been chill, to be honest with you. I'm not even going to lie, there's not much that has happened between the last time you asked me that question and it's just been working.
The days just blurring together. The days are moving quickly. It's it's. It's a weird space where the days are moving fast enough for me to notice they're moving fast, but not fast enough for me to not notice what that's made sense in my head. But anyway it's they're just they are blurring in in some aspects. And Saturdays, Friday and Fridays, Monday and last yesterday and the day before yesterday was Sunday. So I don't know what's happening.
But it's cool though, progress getting some work done. Been doing some writing, writing, writing songs, which is fun. Writing songs, writing melodies. That's cool. I'm taking care of my stray cats who have become much more clingy than I would like them to be. But that's that. Not to bore people with that. So yeah, man, we're here to talk about the industry. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. OK, there wasn't much happening this week as as per like news.
But I guess an interesting thing that happened earlier in the week was we saw posts from Yashinsky and Savara as well as the Madaraka Festival page kind of announcing that the highly anticipated USA tour for 2024 hosted by Madaraka Festival would be without its headliner, Yashinsky, as well as a few other guests such as Savara. And so just reading from reading the from the, from their Instagram, they say they they released a statement saying throughout the past decade, the
Madaraka Festival has proudly stood as the most enduring African music festival. Our commitment has seen us grow from a single annual event in Seattle to a vibrant celebration spanning 13 cities. This year, as we near our 10th anniversary, we are excited to mark this significant milestone with all of you. However, regrettably, due to unforeseen visa processing issues impacting some of our headline performers, we find it necessary to postpone the festival to a later date within the year.
And then they say Ticketmaster will be sending emails to all current ticket holders with instructions and information on refunds, and refunds will be available at point of purchase. Nyashinski also released a statement saying we regret to announce that due to factors beyond our control, we will be unable to perform at the USA Madaraka Festival 2024. Despite the diligent efforts of the organizers, they were unable to secure visas for our team's entry into the US.
We had very much looked forward to the tour and we sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this has caused. I know a lot of people are very disappointed. I mean, and I'm sure a lot of money has been lost because I'm sure it was a huge investment already. So it's unfortunate that they wouldn't be worrying. How do you feel about this? Like what are your your initial like thoughts? Well, I mean. Like seeing the consolation and stuff.
It always it always sucks because it's an opportunity to grow or to, to celebrate music, right. So that's, that's, that's terrible. That's, that's kind of that's, that's whack. It's not good and all all the opportunities. I'm not just thinking about. I'm not just thinking about Yashinsky and Savara. I'm thinking about all the band, the people that are going with them, the people in the bands and. Oh my God, just the people.
Play in the background who have like a really good opportunity to add to their artist resume and actually the experience of, you know, playing shows in a different country and all that business. Yeah. So that's that. That must be very disappointing. And also since the announcement, I'm pretty sure there's been a lot of practice time that has been put into it and money spent into preparing, which is, I won't say it's lost because they could always use what they've prepared for later on.
But then just that anticipation linked with the loss, I guess that's just kind of sad. It would have been good to see again because we haven't really seen ya since we've seen Shin city here and we've really wanted to see him perform outside. So it would have been really good to see that. I guess we now we have to wait for that and hope that there's there's a new Ave. to yeah I mean that it comes around again. Who was he taking on the tour again? Savara and.
Oh, I would, Eddie Kenzo. I would have to con. I would have to confirm because it was Nyashinsky. Eddie Kenzo, Savara of Sautiso Dynamic and Naomi Achu. Yeah, you see, there's, there's also also artists who are really looking forward to, you know, breaking ground in that way. So. And the and the and the tour was actually, well, it was supposed to start today.
Oh, really? Oh my God. It was actually, yeah, it was actually supposed to be in Dallas. So that would just be like an hour from where I am. Of course, you'd be going right to support your Kenya. People going considering yeah and then Houston, Boston and then New York and they're supposed to end at Seattle on the 17th of June.
Well, they were going to go to Dallas, Houston, Boston, NY, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Denver, San Francisco, Phoenix and LA Wow, that was actually a really dope man. Even me. I had to feel very disappointed if like but like why is it get why brah? This is my frustration with America. Like getting a visa as a Kenyan to America is such a long. Process, Yeah, like the process has become, it seems like it's become more difficult, at least
from from the feedback. They make it, they intentionally make it so difficult. You can apply for like one of those visa meetings. Like you could even take like months. And you pay for that joint too, right? And then you you pay for it. Yeah. You pay for that just to get rejected. Yeah. Do you think it's actually annoying? And then they ask you for like they ask you for hella information. That just seems. Irrelevant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was your primary school teacher like?
You don't know him. You don't know him. You. Don't have to do with anything. Don't worry, you don't know him. Have to do with anything, man. Like, I don't know why it's so weird. Like sometimes I look at this world and I'm like, man, like we've complicated so many things in life. Like we're all human beings. Like, why does it have to be like, OK, It's like getting into our country is such a special.
I mean, you play the devil. But like we can get into your country without any like difficulty. Like why is things so one directional? You know what I mean? Just because you're. Yeah, I. Don't know. Yeah, I get, I get that because security, right? Security is really paramount. Security is one of the security's biggest. So they, they should be, as they should be as stringent with with security as they possibly can.
Do you think, do you think the government should try and figure out a way, and this is just me shooting out a thought that I'm currently processing as, as I'm saying, do you think the government should try and figure out a way to work with the different embassies to create like maybe a special yeah thing for artists and for art? Yes, definitely.
Because I feel like it's such a dope opportunity to one, spread the agenda of what's happening in Kenya, Kenyan music, like you never know what's going to come out from Kenyans touring the world. You know, that's so much dope opportunity that can be reinvested into the country. So I think the government should take a vested interest in some of these things because like, you know, they should intervene how they can like if if we can get you guys visas. True. Let's because I feel like the
country stands to benefit. It does, whether it's even through advertising, the fact that Kenya has artists who are eligible to like, tour in Europe or America, like it brings a lot of attention. And then you never know who's like, Americans might listen to Savara and be like, farm, this is fire. Yeah, it definitely it grows the creative. He makes more money as a result of all those eyeballs. I don't.
Know it grows the creative economy and I think that's that's one of the things that it does the current president said that he wants to do is is grow. The Oh yeah, the current president. What a guy. He's currently over there, actually. No, he, he just, no, he just landed. He landed I believe today. Yeah, he's he's in Kenya now. Yeah, he's back. But anyway, yeah, he was there doing what he was doing. Maybe that's maybe those are some of the talks he was having, who knows?
Getting snubbed, getting snubbed by the likes of Tyler Perry, That's. Why I don't? I don't want to. Say our whole president. Imagine our whole president being snubbed by that's an uneasy by Madea Madea. Imagine, imagine. My dear, serving a whole head of state, he has, he has an army under his control. He's loved by my dear man. OK, now, now that we're here, man, now that we're this is just like a sidebar I suppose, man. Like that whole trip, it just, it doesn't sit right with me, man.
They spent so much money just like hiring the private jet and then like. Carrying like the whole entourage he had, like, you know, a lot of people kept on saying he even traveled with a comedian. But like, it's just, it's just weird, especially considering how tough times are economically in the country, man. And then you just see the lavish lifestyle these guys are living.
It's kind of this guy, bro, like just to finish this thought, but you're going to like Tyler Perry Studios, you're meeting Shaq, you're meeting Steve Harvey. Like you're looking like he's, he's like using, he's using our money, our taxpayer money to go out. Then like fulfill, he's like, he's like, oh, like, you know. He's always wanted to meet my dear. He liked My dear films.
Bro bro sounded so key. And yeah, I saw a video of him like shaking hands with Steve. This is the president just like this. Is you in real? Life, the president sounded a bit it's. OK, we wouldn't get banned, but like, it's it's OK, now you're making me. But like you're going to Steve Harvey to be like, oh, this is how you look in real life. I'm like, bro, you're the president. Could you have a swag to you, bro? He did. He's like, oh, this is how you look in real life. Ha ha, ha, ha.
I'm like, bro, you're making us look so backward like like Kenyans don't like maybe watching. Yes. Maybe we might be, might be going to school on Lions. Actually, maybe. We really might be, I don't know, swinging with the monkey? Well, they claim they claim to have gotten like a lot of benefits from America, but like, yeah, I. I mean, hopefully the hope is that he's, he's done like something that would benefit because spending all that tax money for, for, for, you know, the trip.
And of course, Kenyans are never going to see back here at home. You're never going to see anything like that as a positive thing because it's our money that you're using. And it seems very very. It seems a bit. They seem to have secured a lot of like funds and stuff for anti corruption which is ironic because I have a feeling that money will. Go into now I'm getting tight. Can we leave the let's leave politics when I'm getting tight?
You're going to get actually, we could, we could actually just segue into content creation and sort of there's a little thing that's bubbling. Oh yeah, and the fact that he taxes everything that moves. Everything that moves, at some point they're going to figure out a round, a roundabout way to tax taxing itself. Like I'm pretty sure there's. No, I'm telling you, they might come for podcasting. They might come for podcasting pretty soon.
We might be actually. Let me not put that energy in the world. Let let me. Not Oh no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Alpha. Brilliant segue, because they're actually already coming for for podcasting. It's so. Tell me how some this? Is what you did. So this is a very new developing story, but it's really, I think it's really important. So I think it was yes. Is it yes, No, it was today morning from the Internet. The main story happened yesterday.
I think I'm not sure the timeline is kind of weird, but today morning I'm online just going through seeing what's going on, you know, catching up on my industry, industry news and everything like that. And I saw the the a really popular podcast, the Econini podcast have gotten well, the host of the Econini, one of the hosts of the Econini podcast, MAF Maflica. He was, I think it's actually in the States. He was, he was, he went on a
little bit of a little rant. I think they had gotten a, a, a legal document, as we would put it, a legal document from a legal document from the Kenya Film and Classification Board. And he was just on, it's on YouTube if you, if you need to go see it, It's hardly really important for content creators to to just catch up on what's happening because it's going to affect everyone. He, he was ranting about what
they had sent. So basically he had gotten a legal document saying, talking, requesting. I think that or rather putting forth the idea that that content creators specifically, First off, specifically on YouTube, I think that was the major thing on YouTube.
Of course they have a podcast, but they post a video on YouTube. So content creators on YouTube are going to need licenses, licences to post their their their content on YouTube, which of we'll get into that, but that off the bat doesn't make much sense. And then also the the second thing that the that they put in in the digital document is that content creators are go are probably going to have to start sending in their content before
it's posted for examination. And basically screening actually have fancy we have seen screening. Actually have a, I actually have a copy of the document. Yeah. But this one was sent to Mamito Eunice, who is a famous comedian. She also got like hit with the same thing. And it says it's a compliance with Kenya, with the Kenya Film Classification Board regulations. And they're saying refer to the above matter and write to you as
follows. That our attention has been drawn to your YouTube channel Mamito Unis, where you have continuously uploaded audio visual content for purposes of exhibiting and distributing it to the public without acquiring the requisite filming licenses from the KFCB. That Section 15 of the Films and Stage Plays Act mandates that the Kenyan Film Classification Board to regulate the creation, broadcasting, possession, distribution and exhibition of film and broadcast content in the the country.
That further section four of the ACT requires all film makers producing film within Kenya, film okay anyway within Kenya for public exhibition or sale locally or internationally to obtain a filming license. Additionally, Section 12 requires that all classes of film being distributed, exhibited or broadcasted within Kenya must be examined by KFCB and a certificate of approval issued. Before I'm I'm about to finish. This is the last part.
They say that. Consequently, we demand that you strictly comply with the requirements of the Film and Stage Plays Act by obtaining filming licenses for your films and submit them for examination and classification before the same is exhibited and distributed to the public
through your YouTube channel. Wow. And lastly, they say take notice that unless you comply with the above in the next 14 days in brackets 14, we shall institute legal proceedings in accordance with the provisions of the Films and Stage Plays Act and other relevant laws, without further reference to you and at your own risks as to costs and other attendant consequences. There to your sincerely CPA Pascal appeal, Sam. That's horrible. This is that's so horrible for creatives, man.
So I mean, it's a developing story. So we it's very fresh, very new, of course. So it's we're definitely going to keep covering it in a but then just let's just get into it a little bit. First off, AFAM, afam, afam, afam. Tell me how? It's just another. How? No. And we're getting exactly we're getting there. How on earth are they going to vet every single video? What, what's the plan? How do you, how many creators do
you want to do that for? And this effects musicians because your music videos, at some point they are going to have to get, you're going to have to turn them in to get vetted. Like what first? OK, that's, that's, like I said, that's, that's problem. But problem #1 why do we need a license to put things on YouTube? YouTube is not owned by. Like it's like YouTube is a free to upload platform. If I want to post cat videos on on YouTube, why do I have to send them? Why am I sending to the?
Government to approve, yeah, like 1-2. This is honestly like, if we're being honest, this is just part of like the regime we're under right now, which is let's just tax every single thing looks like it we can find. How do we that's. Yeah, you know, that's what it is. It's like licenses, of course, like that's what they want. They just want to make an extra buck. They don't really they. Don't have the capacity to do what they're saying they want to. Do they don't even have the
capacity to do it anyway? They just want to be paid bro. Like do you know how many people post YouTube videos every day? Or how many content creators in the and then what if now they see, oh wait, guys on on Instagram are making money, then they move to to to to Instagram and then Tiktok. That's ridiculous. How many people? Yeah, this. Sets it sets a horrible precedent. They might even start like being like Nah, you all can't even post like Instagram stories or
Snapchat stories. Why is it like why is why is China? Why is it? That when people say that they want to grow something and on this side of the world, like we all want to make this thing that we want to work for it, we end up angering the people doing the thing. Like, OK, now here's the thing. This is this is the thing creators actually need to.
This sounds ridiculous. And unless we are completely misinterpreting what's going on and maybe there's a better explanation, this sounds absolutely ridiculous and creators need to like band together and such. This is the point where and I I was thinking about this while I was watching and I was. No, we, we will band together and we cannot let this is be a thing. They can't. They cannot.
We are, we are at a point in different industries in the film industry in the and let me just sidetrack a little bit, why are they focusing on content creators rather than actual films like this? I've talked to a lot of people in the film industry and they're saying there's no funding, there's no support from the government, There's no, we don't have the proper structures, we don't have the proper
distribution. Why can't the government focus on that and the Kenya Film and Classification Board for Kenya Film Classification Board, whatever they called focus on that and try and make that system robust? Why they're going for small time content creators? Like I feel like there's bigger fish to fry. There's bigger things. Like like pay attention to first of all, even like the structures in place are not even that great as everybody knows, man, the the CPMS, that's super low in our
side of the world. Compared to other countries. Super low. So it's not like it's not like even you have like if, if people are now to start paying licenses to upload videos, they're going to have to be going out of pocket. They won't even be going out of like the. And you know that money, you know that amount is going to be a high amount instead. Right. And so it's just annoying, bro.
It's just like, bro, come on, can we just live here and like figure out also how to make livings for ourselves? Yeah. And this stifles creativity. You know, I it's not going to happen. I've refused. I'm there's no reality. I'm living like you have to pay license craziness, upload. It's craziness. And it's going to go, bro, it's even going to like you said, it's the cup. Like even us like, bro, like they're going to be like, yeah, you all need to like what? Yeah.
What are you talking creatives? Do need to like I was saying, creatives definitely need like we, I feel like we're getting to a point in the film industry like things are just bubbling. If you hear the different conversations going about, like, I think people are getting fed up. We're getting, we're getting tired of the same things being told to us and the system's not working.
So I do feel like people like creatives now, like we, bro, listen, if you're creative out there, like it's time to if we don't start the fight to ensure that we have a working, creating a creative economy, if we keep covering behind a lot of these things and don't like speak up about someone. And when I say speak up, it's not just like talk about it.
It's like fight it till the end. It's it's whether the mentality of we are going to work to get this thing sorted out, whether the end result works in our favor or not. We're going to work as hard as we can to make it work enough. And we all have to hold hands and do this together because individuals doing this is just not strong enough to get it done, you know, And I hate to sound activisty. In fact, maybe I, I love to sound activisty in this situation because it's ridiculous.
I mean, these are the things that we, we, we are going to keep seeing. And if we don't stand up against it, even in the music industry with the whole MCSK thing that we've seen year after year after year after year after year. And it's just complaining and binding together in our small groups and saying, oh, this guy's and maybe even starting something small but not really doing much about it.
Like this might be the time to actually start binding together as creatives and taking our economy to where we want it to be. Rather than dictating, let it be dictated to us, you know, kind of deal. I don't know whether I'm being a little bit too, too much with it, but it's just, it's really annoying. Like it means. Yeah, if you're being adequately you're in fact, I would, I would you you should even be more outraged. Man, we. Should all be outraged. This is crazy, is outraged this.
Is crazy. Imagine imagine having to to submit a license to do your get ready with me videos. Imagine that. Imagine that. Tell me who is here? What? That's ridiculous. God, like, like, like, like I'm. I'm showing you guys how I made the beat to like. Yeah, but you have to submit allies. You have to give that to someone to vet to see whether you're another thing that Moff brought up, brought up when he was
talking about it, right. See, he said that this might be another way for the government to just censor information because and he's reasoning for that. And you can, you can, you can check, go go to the Ikonini page on YouTube, right? So he said that there's a lot of people online who are giving, like, very, very raw, unfiltered opinions on political matters, right?
It's a political thing. And so the government saying, OK, send me your videos so that we can know whether that's that's that obviously just seems like there's like, all right, because then now it. Just takes it takes away your freedom of speech because somebody's determining whether or not you are allowed to say what you're saying, you know?
Yeah. And and we've sort of seen this happen with also Ezekiel Muto and some of the messes that he's gotten himself into in terms of freedom of speech. So that could be another angle that that we are looking at in terms of like, are they trying to censor the information that we're putting out? What about the laws? That we need to, we need to band together, man. It's kind of crazy, man. So hey, yo, from this way, we
just be tired, man. This is why people just leave the country and go elsewhere because it just, it feels like just feels like the government is against the people anyway. Like I don't want to get too much into it because I'm starting to feel like I feel like they're watching. It's annoying. It's annoying. I got you. OK, in more in more music industry news, I guess this is the last thing I kind of have news, man. It was a bit of a slow Newsweek,
I'm not going to lie. There was there's some bubbling beef we talked about, stupid boy. That name? Before when he had, I know it sounds like I'm insulting him, but like, yeah, we talked about stupid boy like when with his beef with Doctor Fenneke and not being paid for the interview. Well, I'm going to assume he got paid for this interview he had with Mongai Eve where I guess the most salacious thing that comes out of this not salacious,
sorry, the most. What's the word not click Beatty, But like this is what the the blogs were going with. Yeah, the blogs were going with him going Yeah, they were going off with on him. They were going off with his con comments on Willie Paul, essentially saying that Willie Paul has a huge ego and he hates him with all his heart and the soul. And you could really feel the hate in which he was saying. So I think what happened was,
yeah, yeah. I think what happened was he was with Willie Paul. He's been in and around those circles. And I think he had asked for like, a collab or something of the sort. And it's curved. Yeah, it looks like. Yeah, it looks like Willie Paul was dubbing him. He says Willie Paul even threatened him at some point. Like, well, now I'm just going to say it's alleged. I'm just going to say. It's alleged. Alleged. Yeah, let. Me not put, yeah, let me not put myself in this beef now.
But like, yeah, essentially he's just very, very outspoken against Willie Paul. And then he just it descends into him kind of just like just kind of insulting Willie Paul a little bit with some very, very funny one liners here, which I'm not going to. That's that's. Not this part, but let's leave that for the other. Part like yeah, I so I don't know how I feel about it. Maybe I feel like stupid boy is very like outspoken and he wears
his heart on his sleeve. I think one thing I've one thing I felt about Will stupid boy is maybe well, I actually I appreciate that the fact that he wears his hat on his sleeve. He's raw, he's unfiltered, and sometimes the industry needs that a lot. So hey, listen, this is a developing story which I have beg attention to because you know, Willie Paul obviously see he's established in the industry. He knows a lot of people. He's I know. I just know how people lie.
It's probably going to try and make it tough for stupid boy to exist, but. Like, Oh no, man, I I feel like I feel like on stupid boy's part, it if it comes to me, it comes off like a a little bit cloudy. See, it comes off a bit capitalizing, capitalizing on the previous attention he got. Well, it's basically for the same thing, more or less, right? But I don't know, it feels and I hey, I don't have. AI don't, I mean, I don't feel an element of cloud chasing us. Imagine.
I feel like that's just him. You think that's, that's his, his personality. I'm not mad at it because I know artists, artists these days have to do a lot like just because of our attention spans and, and just the way we pay attention to content is different from how we did back then. So artists these days have to do a lot to gain the spotlight on them. So I'm not necessarily mad at
him using this opportunity. It's just if you're using it in a way that you're bringing down and not to be all peace and love and Jay Coley about it, but if you're using it as a way to bring down your fellow artists. Jay Coley Jay Coley about it if. You're using it in the channel in a spirit of, of, of J. Cole. If you're using it to bring down like artists for no reason at all, like if you have a reason, cool. And which he seems to do.
But a lot of people seem seem to have no reason to bring down other people. They're just doing it because they know people are a lot smarter than they make them all to be. They're doing for clicks. And that's why I'm like, all right, like. No, no, no, I I'm not saying he's not smart. I'm just saying for me, it feels like you could be absolutely right. Like he might know that this is something that's going to get him talked about for a while on
the blogs. But I'm just saying, like I feel like he's just very outspoken and wears his heart on his sleeve, but. Hey, listen, I would like to see it in the music. I want to see more music. I want to see you like put that energy into like making another. Channel all of that into making whatever you know. Yeah, making making more music rather than like, living on the block. Make more. Give us more hits, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, Speaking of music, man, one, I want to start with, this isn't really music, but I want to start by shouting out. Well, it is music, but like, it's not new music. Brooklyn boys, please release the video to Catalyst, which I just want to shout them out for the, the, the, the, the visual direction and the creative direction with the whole Breaking Bad thing. It's really sick. I just wanted to shout that out because that's insane.
So shout out to to B boys and Philo Ironman new music. What were you listening? To Let's get into some new music. Do do do do do do do do do do. Hey, you want this? You want you want copyright. No, I'll just hit up Quincy. Quincy's my guy. I'll just hit him up and say yo bro, can we use this because. Wait, it's Quincy Jones who made that? Yeah, produce it, Quincy. Listen people, don't give Quincy. Something new every he created the pink what? Quincy Quincy's a genius man.
That's used to me. That's used to me. That's actually very insane. OK, new music. So we started top A Zinnia announced on Instagram and on her socials rather love slash hate Part 2, which of course would be a follow up to love slash hate part one logically, right. So she announced that and then she dropped a single for us to rock with. And the single is called phases in. If you listen to Zenia, if you like Zenia, you're going to like this song. It's it's it's what she does.
She's very she does what she does, man, and we love it. Zenia is one of the most one of the most revered and I've just seen a lot of people talk about her just one of the most revered vocalists to come out of Kenya and who's still working. I mean, who's still currently releasing music. So shout out to her phases. Go check that out. Hildawatiri released her project. She's been releasing a bunch of of of songs. So she released an EP finally called Lovestruck.
It has five joints on there and it features in Jirai. It features Quinoti production from the likes of Melvin Jenga is on their copy Worldwide is on their bunch of people. So that's that's the fire. Check that out. If you're really into her music, even if you aren't, it's really good to pay attention to that. Elsie Wam, can you pronounce
this right? Elsie Wamer, who I haven't heard of this is the first time I heard of her, dropped a banga called Umva which is produced by Polycarp and Woodomolo and I don't. Know shout out to LC. Yeah, man, she murdered that one man. I didn't. I didn't know I originally heard it. I was I was tuned into I was tuned into 254 Radio. They were interviewing an artist and and they were playing that song before and I was like, I thought this guy's only played Kenyan music.
Why are they playing this song? And then I was like, oh snap, she must be. And then I came and I was listening to Newman new music on dropped. I was like, oh snap, this is the song they are playing. It's really cool. So shout out to her that that that's a dope, dope joint. I'm going to we're going to be hearing that everywhere. Scam Cardinali, Supuya Pueza.
It's interesting. It's what Cardinali, but then it's scam Cardinali on the song, so I don't know how they're figuring that out, but shout out to him. I really like scam Cardinali. I've said that a lot of times. I feel like I've said it too many Times Now, but I like his rap. Let's see, Shad Mizuki released a song called Rihanna. I feel like at some point every every male artist has to have a song. Bro, do you do you remember the the Nigerian movie Beyoncé's versus Rihanna? No.
That's a lie. That's a lie that can't be real. This is, yeah. I think it was a whole franchise, really, Yeah. What yo Nollywood though? Oh man, that's now I'm now I'm super curious. I'm good. Go look for that. That's that must be hilarious and horrible. Too. Yeah, they made multiple posters for this. Yeah, it came out in in 2008. So what's the premise of the of the show? Of the of the film? What? I don't know, I haven't watched it.
I doubt there's one. I just remember seeing a bunch of. Yeah, no, I have to do. This anyway, so a bunch of like, yeah, sorry. No, no, no, Nolywood is crazy child Nollywood. So yeah, here's the song with Rihanna. I really enjoy it. I think the songwriting was really good and also his vocal performance was super dope on that. I definitely enjoyed that. Did you do? Let's see, what else did I listen to? What else did I listen to? Preeta also dropped the song called Baddest Ever.
Some rapping on there if you need. If you want to listen to that Femi one. And how do you pronounce that Dufla? Dufla dropped the joint as fire. Always like to see Femi one and on on releasing always fired sister. What am I talking about? It's always dope for me one release music. She's she's just good balance by just man and critical. This is an interesting song. I think this song was burst out of I remember the last I think.
Critical with a queue, yeah. Critical, remember last year when I, we did the whole Colombia, Kenya thing? I think I talked about it on the podcast Colombia. Yeah. So Jasmine is just Jasmine is from Colombia. And so I think critical has been working with him and they finally released some, some music. It's called balance. It's really cool, man. It's cool to see that the, the, the link up between Colombia and and Africa.
We we and sorry, in Kenya, we we always say that we want to see more collaborations with other regions of music and other styles of music. And so this is This is why I feel like in this one critical more brought just man. Actually, no, because just man is is he's he's primarily Afro inclined. So anyway, it's a good song. It's a good check that out. Shout out to critical that's we've worked with him before. So he's he's super dope. Let me see. What else, man. Afram. No, wait.
Let me before you, before you go. Before you go. Nina Ogot released an album. I haven't. Got a breaking news Breaking news Breaking news Nicki Minaj Nicki Minaj just got arrested bro what? For what's? Happening, I don't know, they are not saying, but she got arrested. Like I think she's in, she's in Europe right now for her too. I saw something about that. I think it has to do with marijuana, actually.
I've just realized the concept of me doing breaking news on a podcast that comes out multiple days later is not because people are going to hear this and be like. Very brilliant that happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, again. Maybe I didn't think, I didn't. I didn't think about this, I think so I didn't think about this clearly. Anyway, sorry, Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt. You with my breaking news you're already reading about. Time people listen to this, yeah.
Man, so I was, I was, I was saying Nina got released. Nina got is really cool vocalist. Man, I I like her music. She released an album. Let me get the name right. This the album is the project is called Okumbu dot Kei haven't gone through it. I haven't like listened to the whole of it, but I'm super I'm going to get into that. She also released there's
there's also a single. Well, I think it was released a long time ago though, but with Putumayo, which is I don't know what they sounds like a collective or I don't know what it is, but they released a song called Ningojia, which I really enjoyed. I really enjoyed it. I'll be playing that one again. And then lastly, and then you'll go off because I feel like I've been talking forever. Kill the hippy and the Swami. We keep putting them on the Today they release. Not today.
Well, Friday there was a song called Jiggy Baby and my goodness, Swami was doing some rapping on there and the beat was hard. It's not their usual boom bop sound. This one is more trappy 8 to 8. I had to go in, fam. It was I Dang, shout out to you guys, man. You guys are killing it. You're killing it over there. Yeah, AFAM, please. I've been talking too long. It's our.
Podcast So yeah, so there was the say something we we kind of talked about in the podcast, but it it finally came out Valerie Muthoni and Bien, I was lucky enough to be the sound recording engineer that session, which is pretty cool. What was? The energy that's. Some vocals, I don't know if you caught this pretty cool I don't know if you caught this, but the backing vocals were But am I allowed to say this? I. Don't know if I'm allowed to say NDA's.
NDA's everywhere. Bro is breaking his NDA's, but breaking NDA's is what's fun. Actually, I don't know. It's fun for the culture to break. NDA's actually. You don't have to say you don't get yourself into trouble. Actually I I haven't seen Valerie talking about it, so I don't know if I'm going. To keep that one in the talk. So anyway, so the session was kind of split into two because the first time we recorded, she had already recorded it and then she had recorded her verse and
she wanted Bien on the track. So she invites me to her place. I had to Bien's place. I was very nervous. I went to Bien's place, really nice house. Then we just recorded. It was a bit on the fly type of thing, you know. So it wasn't like, yeah, because it was in the house, it wasn't in a studio. And then a few weeks later, Valerie hit me up. She's like, yeah, I want to re record like my portion of the song, at which point we re recorded, but now just her and I So yeah. So that's cool.
So shout out to them. Mixed by Hook. Mixed by Hook. I want to say Hook did justice to those vocals. He really makes it. Well. So then there was Find a Way by Cheru and Shom or SHLM. What? How you pronounce? That an entrepreneur I didn't know. I didn't know what to do. No, I'm just going to say SHLM. I'm just going to be decent and say as SHLM So or maybe it's Shalom probably. So find a way. Shout out to Cheru. I think she's just like bubbling up.
She's really like this is her time to like really like come out of like, you know, her shell. So I feel like she's now like really beginning to like, I think this is the first song I've heard of hers, you know, like properly. So shout out to her. I think she's going to be a name for the future 100%. Then there was oh, shout out to the steppers. Can I'll be easy released a song called different. It is so short, though, like not no sooner had I begun it's
ending in then the song ended. But you know what I understand because like this. Is a funny thing to. Say I understand because even may I be may and Foster be making songs that are like one minute 24. Yeah, that's crazy. You actually we need to, we need to tuck that trend in, like at least give us two, no two voices. There's there's a dude called, there's a, there's a dude called Osama Son. Yes, I know his name is interesting, but his biggest song is 59 seconds. Is it 58 seconds?
It's called X&X and that's. A voice note at the but that's a That's an interlude. But it's hard, though. I like it. I don't know. I'm gonna Me and Foster. Trust me, Trust me. Trust me. I'm telling you right now we're gonna do a song that's under one minute. I'm doing it anyway. Then there was the there was the Billy Black. Oh, no, no, Actually, before I get into the Billy Black project, there was Goodbye by Papa. You didn't talk about that yet? Oh, no, no. Yeah, I'm produced by.
Anatu. Yeah, produced by Anatu. I wanna say Papa man PPPPPP what more can I say but Papa bro honestly like he blew me away. No, Yeah, yeah. He blew me away, like the melodies he was hitting, bro, bro. He's actually making some really, really amazing music. So I just want to give him a big shout out, man. Like I really, really see what he's doing and I respect it. So the so in in line with the people making music in the diaspora diaspora.
So we have Papa, Then we had KC releasing Mia, and then we had Pink Pantres, our very own releasing Don't Laugh, Don't Laugh. She's our very own. She released a song called I Just want to say Hates Me, Make me sing in a shuttle to Pink Panthers. Everybody knows I'm a huge Pink Panthers Stan. And then Billy Black released a self-titled album. Bro, you know whenever artists be releasing self-titled man you
know they mean. Yeah, if, if, if you're bold enough to put your name on the project. I feel like every artist has to release a no. Not every artist has to do I don't want to. I don't see a drink. If you're a. Serious artist. I want to see the album that. OK, it usually doesn't work for rappers, but like when when you're like in the old like Paramore released on the album, like if you're a band. Yeah, it's cool. No, it does. It's kind of, it's kind of
swaggy. It's just there's some people who I don't. Know like if you're a singer like if if if like Beyoncé released what hasn't Beyoncé released subtitles. Subtitles. So yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like it works when you're like rappers, it doesn't work, but like other. I don't think it's not just rappers, it's also your name. Like you can't have just a wild name. Imagine a family phone at the album. So you're saying, oh wow, I'm. Taking shots at you.
Listen, I get micro aggressions here all the time. This is an example of one. This is an. Example. It's a joke. Aggression against me. Good. Oh yeah, that's what they say. That's what all the toxic people say. It's a joke. And meanwhile, they've just stepped on your ego. They have stepped and broken your heart into 3 million pieces. Anyway, So Billy Black, I want to give a big shout out to Billy Black. Man, he really delivered. I really, really did enjoy
listening to this album. The things I loved about this album, the songwriting, I think his songwriting is very, very deep. It's one of his strengths, Meaningful. It is like there were times he was saying things and I was like, hmm, what does that? What does he mean by that? And I was like, like, it made me think about like, yeah, it made me think about certain things that he was saying. And then his voice, his voice is phenomenal. I, I like the raspiness in some
of these tracks. I, I can't remember. I think it was Hold Me where his voice was super raspy. And I was like, bro, I I dig it. I dig this so. And then I love the simplicity with which he approached the production for me. I liked it, You know I. Love it for sure. Very simple, I love. The guitar, yeah, I loved it. I loved it. I think this is a solid, solid project. I think my favorite song is not. I think I'm pretty sure my favorite song is the collab he has with Costa.
I see the light that. Was and that was a good and then the not the. Harmony, the melody, this is my last day. The melodies they were doing at the end, Oh my God, I was like, this is some really, really good. Music Oh yeah that was a really good it was a good collaboration with with I see the light. It's definitely my my one of my favorite songs to come out this week. I enjoyed the project. I I just shortly before we we pick a song I enjoy.
I've been listening to Billy black since I think the pandemic. I think it was strange 20. A friend of mine put me on to his music and I fell in love with like there's a song he did called a March on and I all the streams that he's gotten from that song probably from me. Like I really enjoy that. So I really enjoy his music and a couple of songs on his first project. Let me just I don't want to get it wrong because it's not not just like I really do think it's dope music.
It's called my from my heart to yours. It's A5 song project. It's really good. But yeah, he also delivered and this is the same kind of feel. He does more acoustic themed music and like we were talking, I I feel like his music has a lot. His music feels like it will be really good for like film and like Netflix and all all that stuff, like yo. I got that feeling as well. I got that feeling as well. It's very, it's very cinematic in, in the way he presents it.
So man, shout out to him. Shout out to him. My favorites, my favorites where I see the light. I really enjoyed that. I liked Champion. It's a song I think we've had a lot, but it's interesting to see how he's done it. And also seen as Anthem, which has like more of like a gospel theme. Speaking of gospel themes, there's been gospel themes with artists recently, but we'll we won't get into that. Yeah, we will get into that. Yeah. Seen as Anthem, seen as anthem was was really dope also.
But yeah, it's a cool project. I'll definitely listen to it again. I know some songs are going to grow and meet more than just because I listened to it. Maybe just one twice. I think I went through it, but yeah. OK, so I think for me personally, and I think we agree on this, I think the song that I would love to play at the end of the podcast for y'all is I See the Light by. Billy Black. Costa and Costa, Juan. I see the light a billion miles away and I am stopping for nothing Ya Mama.
I see the light and an oka go Ki NI yo SE Jo Bo ya Mama. And in the land Qatar WeChat, take my nadir, we'll be OK. Go tell my mother and father I finally found a way to change me. Go tell my brothers and sisters I finally found a way to save me. Go tell my mother and father I finally found a way to change me. Go tell my brothers and sisters I finally found a way to save me. It's your day to move a mountain, it's OK. It's your day to move a mountain, it's OK.
To my mother and father, I finally found a way to change me. Go tell my brothers and sisters. I finally found a way to save me. Go tell my mother and father I finally found a way to change me. Go tell my brothers and sisters I finally found a way to save me the the. That was I see the light by Billy Black shout out. Oh, and Costa Drang. Sorry, so shout out to both of them. That was a really, really phenomenal song and phenomenal project. So go peep that right now.
It's in your streaming devices or wherever you listen to music. Yo, Sam. That's that. That's another episode in the can episode. What, 78 bro? We're quickly approaching the 80s man. Like I told you man, Start learning how to like disco, dance and stuff. I don't do. Don't start taking drugs though because I know they did a lot of. Drugs. Oh no, yeah, LSD. And anyway, no, we're not doing that. Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca is a new thing. I don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm out of my depth here, all right? Are you talking about ayahuasca just because Kendrick told him to take it and. Strip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strip your ayahuasca. Strip your ego down. Oh man, I didn't know ayahuasca is good for stripping ego. No, all all, all psychedelics do that. That's why the Internet released the ego death. It's called ego death. Anyway, I don't know why am I talking about this like I know what's happening. I. Don't know if you want to hear this.
Anyway, so yo, shout out to you all for sticking with us for 78 episodes. I want to just leave you guys with my 3C's, which I've been pushing. If you're new here and you're wondering what I mean by the three C's, I mean, I need you to be confident with your craft. Oh wait, no, I've mixed those two. But like, I want you to be confident with the music, be confident in what you're producing, the art you're
making. You have to be confident back it because if you don't back it, nobody else will. I also need you to be concerned consistent with the music that you're making or the art that you're making, because if you're not consistent, you will Capital WI double L be forgotten because there's so many people out here making art. I feel like the only time you afforded the chance not to be consistent is once you've made it. And listen, we're all trying to make it still, so be consistent.
And lastly, I need you to work on your craft because every day, like you have to strive to improve, even just do the small things, you know, do the equivalent of what five sit ups is, you know, five sit ups might not look like much, but like if you, I don't know what that is, but like if you do 5 sit ups every day, you'll get somewhere eventually. So yeah, those are the three CS. Sal, tell us about procrastination. Procrastination. Have you watched the Lord of Rings?
I actually haven't done that yet. You've never watched the. I've tried, I've tried 100%, I think I've tried five times, but I always clock out in like the 10th minutes. So, Sam, can me and the audience hold you to having watched Lord of the Rings before the next episode? No, I will not promise that because I know it will not be done.
Which? Brings no, no, no, no, you can't go into no, you cannot go into a procrastination segment and say that sound, but yes, for me, the audience are waiting to. Expect I don't wants to watch Lord of the Rings. I've tried and failed a number of times. I just I've abandoned it. That means that that means somewhere inside you, you want to watch it if you've tried multiple times. Hmm. Yeah, here we go. OK. Fine now far. Argue with me.
All right, cool. I'm still not being held in fire at. Least watch one. Watch one. What's the first one? What's the first one? But I'll come and talk about it next, like, because people want to hear that, that idea. Movie. Thank you. They do. I promise you somebody out there is invested in this, OK? Just one, the one person, just the one. All the listeners we have is just that one GRR Token. I think he's the writer of the The Lord of the Rings and the Fellowship of the Ring said.
It's the job that's never started that takes the longest to finish, so make with that what you will. That is true, but that's a fact that is true. And on that note. And on those, Oh yeah, on that note, on with those words, on that statement, blockbuster of. Blockbuster with statement. Oh man, if it's the 78 we're out bro. We what a bid you adieu and yes, we're out.