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No, I don't think so. But anyways, yes, so and then you can also catch us in real life. We are two real human beings. Yeah, that was as smooth as I could make it afam. What's up? What's up, man? How are you? Yeah, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Just really tired. Sorry. Not usually the hour we record, but. Yeah, man. This is what it is. Let's not make the 4th wall too too much. But that's that's not fun. It's always fun. Breaking the 4th wall is actually really fun, man.
I enjoy it. I enjoy. I enjoy. I enjoy shattering the the illusions that corporate, the corporate world has put in front of us. I enjoy shattering them. How? Tell me how. How was your week, man? My week was good, man. I watched. I finally watched the Dune movie. I hadn't watched it. That's the Timothy Chalamet and the ladies and day one. I never watched that. I kind of joined the hype train because Dune 2 is coming out soon and you all know I love Dune 2. Dune 2 is a plug in.
I'm a geek anyway, so yeah, watch that. And Dean, one knows what? That is. Well, they do because they've heard it multiple times. It's the famous plug in that was used to make the song Black Beatles by Ray Shermard. They used the Dune to plug in anyway, so let's not be too geeky. What else did I do? So yeah, there's that. They had a lot of, you know, official things government related. You know how? Yeah. Yeah. Like, just had to know how it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always fun.
Yeah, so not fun. It's just a lot of standing around and queuing. I hate it. Making friends. OK, so that and then made a bunch of music. Also released some music. Released a song with Cookie and Groovy Joe on Friday Gabbana. You all should stream that on all the streaming platforms. Really excited. Really excited. It's some trap stuff. Fire on just like the the Jason effects. Yeah, no. Have you heard? Those the Jason I left I left I. Left I left. To do that, I had to let that.
Do that I had to. Let that breathe. You didn't have to let it breathe. Yes, I know that it's fire Baby tag. What else did I do that was of interest? Yeah, I released some music, so super excited about that. Also, there's two more songs that are coming out this week or this coming. Yeah, this week on. Friday is working working. Well, three more songs. You're my role. Technical. OK, All right. OK, Four. Do you want to go? Let's do you want to try for
four? If I do have personal release, then we could say 4. Aside from that, yeah man, we're just working. Yeah, that's that's kind of how my week went. How about yours? That's dope. It's fire. Yeah, it's, it's been, it's this week has been difficult, man. So I've not had my machine. They're still trying to figure out what's wrong with it. My machine in my laptop, Nigeria. Nigeria is called Laptop's Machine. I'm so sorry. Maybe that's a Nigerian in me coming out.
I've not had my laptop this week, so I've been waking up every day with a burden to create but nothing to create on. I've just been recording voice notes and doing other things. But yeah, I've been productive though, bro. It's been hot. Can we talk about the Sun? Very hot man. Yeah, the sun has been doing. I don't know what it's up to, but it's been ridiculous. It's that kind of kind of weather where you sleep without a blanket, one leg out, just trying to regulate your own body
heat. It's craziness, but anyway. Oh wait, Sam, what did you do for Valentine's Day? Oh, that. Was that was this week? I did. I don't know. What day was Valentine's. Was it Wednesday? Valentine's always seems like it's on Wednesday. It was Wednesday. Valentine's is always on Wednesday. Wednesday is a day of love officially declared by me. Is the day of love. I didn't. Do Hump day. What? Wednesday is Hump Day, and it's also Valentine's Day, which is which is appropriate anyway.
Sorry. Yeah. Very inappropriate. Yeah. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't have no Valentine's. I've not done Valentine's in a long time, bro. I don't know. What did you do? I'm. I'm curious. What did you do? Did you did you? Don't worry about it, man. No, I'm glad you had a good week. Oh my God. Moving on swiftly. So I had a no, no, wait, I had a good Valentine's. Yeah. Like it? Was how Valentine's is meant to be spent. Let's just say, though, So yeah, really. OK, yeah. With loved.
With loved ones. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, OK. I'm moving on swiftly. Like, yeah uh huh. Yeah, but no. I didn't know Valentine's. I'm of the belief that Valentine's is a is a is a way is a just another holiday that they made so that we can buy more things and. You're one of those people. All holidays are meant for us to buy more things. We look at Christmas, you look at Easter. It's just all for you. Targeted for us to buy things. Some for me personally, I
willingly fall into the trap. It's fine. Like you want me to buy more. You want me to, You want me to? Yeah. Take my money. Take my money. Yeah, it's fine. What am I going to do, bro? Be grumpy in the house and be like, you know what I know? I see through you. I see through your tricks. That was me on Wednesday. That was me. I even completely forgot. You just reminded me that Wednesday was Valentine's. Like, I completely forgot. It's it's crazy. It's crazy. That says a lot about me.
All righty. Yeah, man, what? What? What was going on this week? What What was going on this week? This was a little bit of a slow Newsweek too. Quite slow, quite slow. But I mean, you take it away, Sam. Yeah. So let's see. So the I ran across the news. First of all, we had no idea, all right? We had absolutely no idea that that this was happening. It's just it was news to us. But then I ran across a tweet
that was talking about. Before we go into the oh, OK, OK, I was going to say before we. Go. Yeah. No Sir, that's how I got to know about some. I'm just starting to say that's how I got to know about the festival. So I ran a question which and then just talking about the Raha Fest and apparently Davido set to perform I was like. Enjoyment. Not, I've not heard anything, anything whatsoever about a Raha Fest, either in years previous or years to come. That doesn't make any sense. Years.
In four years I haven't heard anything about. So that was interesting. Wait, wait, what's cutting across all all time and stuff. Omnipotent. Omnipresent. Your omnish. Your ever what? Never mind. Sorry. Go ahead, effervescent. OK, we'll go with that. It's. Definitely not effervescent. Yeah. So that was interesting. It was interesting going and learning. Apparently. It looks like it's a. It's a It's first. OK, first of all Raha Fest if you can't tell by.
The What is Sam? For the people listening to to this, what is? Another festival. Uh huh. Raha Fest is another festival, right? So it's what is a what is a festival actually? Is it just an event where it's like a glorified concert, isn't it? No, it's it's a it's a concert that's bigger, You know what I mean? Yeah. A festival definition festival is a day or period set aside for
celebration or feasting. It can also refer to an occasion for celebration, such such as one that commemorates an anniversary of any other significant event. OK, I hope I have. Definition change from the dictionary, apart from the 30% podcast. So the Raha Fest, They're calling it Africa's largest music, Africa's largest music, arts and cultural extravaganza. They all are. Every single one of them, right.
Every single one is the largest. So, so it's it's taking place on the 30th of March 2024 is that that's Easter weekend, right? That's pretty soon. That's really just like a month, and 10 days from now, it's. Really. A month? Yeah. So. And I saw the news about this going out, I want to say a couple of days ago. Not so. Not so long ago, Like 3-4 days ago. So that's seems like short notice, especially since it looks like it's a new thing. We haven't. I've have.
Have you? Never like I just went on their Instagram and it looks like they they started posting on the 13th of January. So it looks like Raha Fest is very much like this year type of thing. Yeah. So it's it's new. It's new. It's new. It's really new, so cool. So headliner is Davido David Adeleke, the Nigerian superstar. He's he's been around for a while. We all love Davido, but most of us love Davido. And then so Co headlining there will be JPJBJPJB Piana from Congo.
We have Musa Keys from South Africa, King Promise from Ghana, Otili Brown, Major View, The Storyteller, Samido San IP, Nadia Mukami, Heart of the Band Bensol and Femi One from Kenya. DJ is King and more DJs to be announced. So it looks. It looks interesting. It looks interesting. Yeah. Did you say Frasha? Frasha will also be. Very. Frasha Mimkhari, is that. That's the frash I'm talking about, right. Is there another one? OK, Yeah. So there's no other Frasher shout out.
Frasher. Yeah. So I mean tickets out now if you want to, if you feel like that's the thing that you want to attend, that's cool. It's really interesting. It's really interesting going through the the, the, the, what's his name, what do you call these guys? I've got it the term not the founder, the the promoter. It's not the word I'm looking for the promoter. The promoter is is what? What was his name? Tunde, Daniel.
Tunde Daniel That's the Nigerian things to to to put well, it's a world thing to put your son name before your first name. I think his name is Daniel. Ari, Sam, But Sam, Dan, Ari, Sam. Your name is, it's. A maza in it. Yeah, So anyway, so he's the promoter. It was good. Doing some research about him, he seems like it's a he's. Interesting. Very tough to him. It's a big deal. Yeah, So what do you think about this, bro? That's, like, never. Seriously. Text to Don jazzy it does.
It does look like I mean that. The the you to go get. Get on your ancestry.com. Go get get your DNA. I hope that's not a disrespectful thing to say. Shout out to you though. Shout out to you, yeah. What do you think about the the festival? Festival looks interesting. I mean the line up looks interesting, looks very ambitious, looks like it's going to be something for the ages, man. Like the pricing though is pretty up there. I mean like 6000 for a regular ticket, 12,000 for VIP, 30,000
for VIP, right? Looks like it's going to be one of those. So, you know, what do we expect? I mean, we've had events like these be cancelled on Kenyans like. Yeah, we've not. We've not. Yeah. There's not been a really good, a good. Sorry to cut you off. There's not been a really good showing for events. No. So hopefully this one goes on with a hit without a hit.
Hopefully it does. Because like the only it looks like the only reliable events so far in the event space are the ones organized by Gondwana. But even them, they had their main event, the headliners like pull out last was it last week and that was a whole thing. But anyway, I mean, so hopefully this one. Also, do you think many Kenyans are going to be willing to pay like early bad tickets after being banned by the likes of Shocker Shocker.
Which, by the way, do you think people got paid back for that? Got paid their money. Yeah. We didn't go to the bottom of that. I need. I need to we need to do some some research and like actually talk to people on the streets and find out like what the truth is if they got their money back. I don't know. I hope so. I genuinely hope so. Like because that's that's if you don't then how do you go about it?
I guess if you don't get your money you could like band together and try and make some noise about it, but you've not had any noise so. But some some introduce us to like, So what was the tweet saying? What was the tweet saying? Wait, be so yeah. Oh, before we get there. Uh huh. Yeah. Before we get to the no, I just wanted to mention so I also saw sorry I also saw Shanzi, the Jamaican artist was was set to come to Kenya later on this I think it was August but she. You mean Shanzia?
I'm sorry. I'm sorry to expose you. No, I it's not. It's because. So let me tell you why. Because you said Shanzi and I was like, who the hell is that? Like I was like, yeah, I'm. So sorry, No. Yeah, I'm. So. Sorry. Oh God. Oh no. Oh no. This is bad. This is bad. No, this is real bad. So yeah, so she was said, but she cancelled for apparently security reasons. That was there. The watch, what they're talking about.
Which is it's really strange. But anyway, so it's just a really by the way, I was So what brought me to the shocking, shocking news? Not, not the the, the Rafa's news was I saw a tweet. I saw a tweet. Let me let me pull it up because we're doing journalism here. We're doing good, good journalistic work. Top tier journalists here. Top tier. Here we go. Best of the best. So yeah, the the tweet is by he goes by St. lawyer on on X.
Shout out to him. And the tweet goes, yeah, the tweet goes, so we'll just, I'll just, I'll read to the tweet then we can talk about it. So it says paying Davido 56,000,000 is absurdity Now 56,000,000 will come roughly to around 3-2 hundred $350,000 around that. So paying. David, no, it's about 388,000 actually. Oh yeah, the shooting's been doing a weird thing now so it's it's probably it's it's.
I don't know. Anyway, yeah, so he goes on to say that Guap can be used to lock in 56 Kenyan musicians across genres, lock in a proper three or four day festival open to other EA countries to pull up, like Saudis, Abu Sarah or Enyagan Yaga festivals. The Employment Opportunity that will be created is in sane, he goes on to say, and to hypothesize right. I keep saying that word wrong. It's not hypothesize. Hypothesize. Hypothesize each artist with a mili that's 1,000,000.
That's that's slang for one million to their names. Imagine how many people will get paid. The manager, The makeup artist, Stylist, DJ, life band, dancers, choreographers, producer. Locking in the next project, Videographer and photographer After Me and You in the Producer category and maybe the Dancer category. Let me tell you something, The money that's in events is never trickling down to the producers. Let's let's just be honest. No, because he keeps going. No, he keeps going.
He keeps going. The chauffeur. Is never trickling down to us, man. I just handlers and stage managers but he says and this is the this is the crux of his argument but we choose to do some kawaida mediocre bookings and on here we have an angry red faced emoji alpha. Take it away. I mean so. OK, can we get your thoughts on this please? OK, here are my thoughts. So essentially the argument is we should be offering this opportunity for this new big platform, this new big festival.
It should be catered towards Kenyan artists. It's, you know, it's it's the whole argument that you know why. Play KE first. Yeah, yeah, play KE, right. So 70 I I mean so having few let's pay 56 artists 1,000,000 Kenya shillings each to come on stage which I mean, OK I I see what he's trying to say but I see what he's trying to say. But obviously if BN was in the was in the line up, he's not going to accept to be paid the same as artist X who's you know. Maybe he was not talking about
the top tier artist. Maybe he's talking about like upcoming artists, because they'll be happy. Maybe he was. But now this is where the argument kind of falls apart, I think. And we have to be realistic about this. Are Kenyans going to pay? I I I mean, are they going to pay for the tickets or are they going to attend a show such as this that's built off of just upcoming artists, Right, I think. Wait, sorry, I'm sorry, sorry,
do you. I'm more likely, just just to clarify, sorry, do you mean I Kenya is going to pay for like a headliner like David Doe or pay for would they rather pay for headliner like David Doe would they rather pay for? Well, I was. I was. I was getting. Upcoming artists. I was getting there, so, so, so, yeah, I mean that's the
question. And I I was like I was saying, I think we just have to be a bit realistic here and it's unfortunate to say, but I think more Kenyans are going to pay for the bigger international acts. I think, I think they're going to rather pay for if a Davido is coming, a Banner Boy, a Rama or like one of the foreign acts like When 2 Chain came or Shancia or Shanci, that's her name now. So you know what I mean. Like I think cousins are more likely to pay that.
So if you're if you're an event organizer like how are you going to invest that 56,000,000 which by the way is alleged like that's there's. No, there's no need to put this. Yeah, the disclaimer on there, these are not, these are not confirmed numbers. Please don't. Go actually those team no please no, no. Yeah this is just like this is just for the sake of conversation right? And just using this persons tweet. So, so maybe then the question is like why? Why why?
Why wouldn't Kenyans be willing to attend a 56? First of all the logistics behind having 56 artists in a 2? Day event I don't know. Are we organized enough? Are we organized enough? Are we organized enough for that? It's possible, but you'd have to have. I would hope we were. Stages. You'd have to have multiple stages and have just like a big space and stuff like that, like how they doing like beneath the bow barbs.
But like that's the that's the issue like are Kenyan are are Kenyans willing to just see a primary leaf like will they will they drop like that like And then because we before this, we were looking at the, you know, we were looking at the revenue streams for for events and stuff like that. Because I'm not going to lie. Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
I'm not too like cluding. So I had to do some research and you know, they make money through sponsorships, through advertisements, of course through ticket sales. That's the obvious one. Through, you know, the vendors who the various vendors who sell, whether it's food, whether it's merchandise. Whether it's. Whatever. Like they have to pay for space
in the event. Like now if you, if you put all that together like even just for the advertisers, like they're more advertisers unfortunately are going to look at the ticket and they're going to see a big name like Barna Boy and and Davido and see more value in that lining themselves. Exactly. Yeah. And this is very unfortunate me. I'm not saying this as. But it's the nature of the industry though. Yeah, no, we don't try to, we don't try to put people put
anyone down. But it's the nature of the industry. It's the levels those guys have the business. Yeah. It's at the end of the day business. It really is. And and so maybe maybe we need to get because really when it comes to this scale of events, it's only two people who can really pull that off and that's either Saudi Soul Bien or his own or Nyashinsky, everybody else. Like, Even so, I don't know. They're more in there. I don't know if has can
kaligraph. Does he usually have like his stand alone events that are really big? Because what's Saudi soul have the whole soul fest thing Nyashinsky has What does it? What does he call his Shin City? Yeah, Shin City, right. And that that that's big on its own. Is there any other artist who can have like a big level event like like that by themselves? I don't know if they can pull those numbers. These are the biggest people for sure. Maybe. That's what I'm saying.
Maybe if you have like some of the legacy acts maybe like like AP unit coming together or I, but I don't know I I feel like currently. But a a multitude of Kenyans going to really come out to CP unit. I'm. Not, that's the thing we don't. Know but I'm just saying like I doubt it like they have to have more meat to that like P unit. It would be dope if P unit now come as a as a you know like what do you call them? No, not a Co headliner, but like if they're part.
Of the ticket. Of like a Nyashevsky show or something. Because you know, like, so. So listen. The truth is, as much as I'd like there to be an event that's just 100% Kenyan, which is possible, but if we're talking about the scale of which Raha Festival is trying to achieve, it can't be just primarily Kenyan. You have to have that big international name, which is unfortunate.
And I'm not saying you know what I mean, like, but like, that's just how it is. Yeah, especially I mean if if if you're, if you're if you're investing that much like again it's alleged, but if you're investing that much into the artist himself in this region, of course then that means that you might have a lot more. I don't know if if they're thinking that having 56 of this other guys. Well and again this is just a guy's thoughts OK this is not
this is not real. But then I don't know if they're if they think having 56 artists could bring back that revenue. I feel like there might be a way that they can make that work but it probably won't be very easy that is. So it's just really easy. It's just easy calling a David O and being like fam. Come get your because. Unfortunately, like if even like if if the ticket is just primarily like the smaller Kenyan axe making the the the early bad ticket 6000 people would be like for what?
That's that's unfortunate, but it's David Doe, though. It's David Doe. David Doe, I think has has reached that level. But that's what I'm saying. You see, Kenyans would say it's David Doe though, so we should pay 6000. But, but if if there was no big like name aside from just like, you know, primarily Kenya names, people would just be like, yeah, no, I'm not paying 6000. Not, yeah. I'm not paying 6000 to go see. Yeah, we've seen, we've seen the people they've complained about.
I mean the amounts of of of money they've had to pay for like local accent and yeah, I don't know if they'll. Be so maybe. Then I guess a constructive, A constructive conversation to have would be how do we get ourselves to the point where we can have massive events? And then now let's remove Sauti solan Yashinsky from the equation. OK, just for the sake of conversation. Right.
How do we get our ourselves to to the scale of like being able to have like a primarily Kenyan LED like event but that's like at that scale of you know what Raha first is trying to achieve ETCETC where like people are even willing to pay like. Just ridiculously obscene amount of money, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Obscene amounts, yeah. Obscene because we're brokeies. It's definitely obscene because we're brokeies. So here's what I think, Number one, I think we need more superstars from here.
We need more people who we can. We need more people who who who appeal to, who appeal to the to audiences on that level. Like like, I feel like we do have stars and I'm not saying we don't have stars, right. And I know this is please don't kill me that that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying we don't have stars, but I think we need more people who want we can we could export out. Like, we just need a bigger. I don't, I'm trying to put it into words, but it's not coming out.
Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Basically what I'm saying is we need we need more stars. We need more, more people who are able to draw in crowds of that level. We have artists here, but like we're talking, we're just, we don't know if they'll be able to pull. Yeah, we don't know if they were able to pull those numbers, right. The numbers required. At the end of the day, it's business. And if the promoters don't see those numbers coming back, they're not going to make their
money back. We're not just giving out free. This is these are not World Relief benefit concerts we're holding, this is, this is actual things going on. So that's number one. Of course we need more.
I feel like we would need more organization in the sense that there has to be like a real concerted effort to to emphasize the benefits of concerts rather than just throwing a show and saying for this weekend this and this is like there needs to be like a a greater emphasis on that, maybe probably more sponsors, more, more, more corporations. What do you call it? Paying into the art, more corporations supporting artists and all their business.
But honestly, if you just ask me, I think the bottom line is we just we just need more, more artists that are, yeah that are on that level. That would that would do it. That would do. That would do it. Yeah, and that's it's, it's unfortunate to say by Yeah man, because Kenyans, Kenyans are not going to spend that much money on unless it's like you're hearing, you know, banner boys. Come. Unless you know it's it's it's an experience you can't get elsewhere.
You know, like like Davido doesn't just show up frequently. I don't remember the last time he was here. But then that's like an experience when when when it comes. And it's an experience just because of. Who he's become? Do you think so? Do you think, like in Nigeria for example, do you think they get hyped for Banner Boy Rema concerts or like video concerts? Yeah.
And they treat, they treat them just like, yeah, like, you know how like when these guys come here, there's some reason all this Nigerian guys come here and then they goof up and guys go and attack them on Twitter. It's the same thing in Nigeria. People, people do shop, People shop. The thing about is it? Is it?
Because is it because these guys never stay in Nigeria, Kinarema, they're always like abroad like I feel like in a Rama, they their base of operations is always like in the US or whatever, like so maybe even for Nigerians like having a Rama come and perform is novel because. Like it's like a rare is never there. That could partly be it. And again we'd I, I think we do this thing where we compare Nigeria and Kenya too much I guess, because we're two Nigerians.
Of course it's very easy to do that. But then I think Nigerians, it's it's it's known to Nigerians and to people outside of Nigeria that Nigerians just support their own man like they. I remember I was in, I was in Nigeria a while back and I was listening to radio and on the radio stations they were playing mostly Nigerian music, if not all Nigerian music. I didn't hear like a single Drake song. I think I had one Nicki Minaj song, which was really weird. But they play Nigerian, so they
support their own. So back there, people want to see their people flourish. They want to see their people thrive And so we still listen if you throw a bat shoe, it's still going to kill, kill you on Twitter like we're still, we're still going to complain about it, but we're out there in hoods supporting our own and I think that's that's something. And of course now the industry Barclay is really big. So they can sort of afford that kind of thing here in Kenya.
The industry is, is, is, I mean it's good, it's, it's thriving and I do believe it's thriving but then it's not at that scale. So maybe that might affect affect things. So I mean, you've essentially just gone full circle into the whole, even the inception of our podcast. So I guess it's just like, we have to like, what's the word? We have to not inculcate like we have to. What was that inculcate. Yeah. What's the word like? What does that mean?
Infiltrate the minds of the youth like with Kenyan. Brainwashed We have to brainwash the Kenyan Brainwash. They're brainwashing the Kenyan youth. Yeah. No, we have to make. Creators to brainwash the Kenyan. No, essentially we have to like, expose them to just Kenyan art. Kenyan art. It's it's dope. Like we have to like from an early age, show them that Kenyan stuff is really fire and something to be excited.
Promoted from my. Young from my young age, so that they get excited like because you see now as our generation, we're like, you know, like most of these our celebs, you know, we've come up with them like, you know, but like we need like for my are you? Trying to say we can't teach old dogs new tricks, Is that what you're trying to? Say, are you? No, you can't, old dogs. Are you calling our artists old dogs? No, I'm calling us old dogs. I'm saying like.
Well, call yourself an old dog. Fine. I'm calling myself an old dog. I'm just saying like because my generation is out. My generation is like we're we're played out like even the generation, even the generation directly be. No, we're old for sure. You know, it's not about being old. I'm saying even the generation be below ours is also like like. That's what I mean. OK, that's what. I mean the kids who are between 23 and 20 and 23 and 30, like even then. We're not the deciders of the
culture anymore. Yeah. I'm saying we're not the deciders of of culture anymore, like. No, we are. You're not getting my point. Yeah, bro. Yes we are. No, if anything, no, if anything if anything right now we're the we're the the pilot seat seat of what should be deciding culture I think because we we're at that we're in that teetering edge between. I think so. I think it's. The kids, We are. No, because we are the kids.
No, because we are that teetering point of where we're in between both worlds, where we can straddle being young and still being and still having like connection with the younger generation, but also being at the age where we can also be in rooms with the adults and like actually make like policy and and like affect things more. Because like most of the people our age are now getting into like positions of power in the
music industry. You know, you look at, you look at all the people who like, have big positions right now. It's not people who are like too dissimilar like to our age. You get what I mean. So right now we're at the pilot seat when you're young. When you're young, what you can do When you're young, what you can do is you can curate the vibe, but you can't really change so much. You can you can but like it's it's it's more difficult to do that. So you need people who are like
actually in the in the room. Who have some sort of, yeah, some sort of like a social pool, some sort of a power. I guess it's all power. Like that's what that's what all the people have power. Yeah. But we like we're in smack dab in the middle for now because we still anyway so. But that wasn't even my even Now even I've lost like my train of thought. But but. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. That's that's, that's, I mean it's interesting.
We well, OK, I think we're talking about, we're talking about the, the, the, the original point was what we're trying to do with the podcast. But yeah, it's trying to, trying to. It's just make make Kenyan, I guess, make Kenyan music important to Kenyan people or be part of that story, I think is. Yes.
Oh yeah. Essentially what I was saying was we have to have the younger generation like now from 17 and below actually believe that Kenyan music is as sick as Nigerian music, as sick as South African music, as sick as Ghanaian music, as sick as like European music and Western music in general. So that those kids can be like.
So that when they get to the position where they can actually afford to pay 6000, like they can make a decision to pay for a primarily Kenyan LED event, you know what I mean? Because right now those kids can't really, they're they're not at the position where they can spend. But my point is we need to have them grow up into being those people who, yeah, you know, I love Kenyan art so much, I'm going to spend 6012 thousand, 30,000 to go to a just a Kenyan
event, you know what I mean? But as we are lost causes, our generation is lost. Is is a lost cause for that. And the generation below us is also a lost cause for that. But the kids we we can still like we can still there's still hope there. Anyway, we say all this.
Still hope for the kids, yeah. Yeah, we just say all this to say for the time being, if you're trying to have like a festival type of things, it's still going to have to be backed by like an international act that's big and that's just how it's going to have to be for. And like, I mean, it'll be cool to, it'll be cool for us to be proved wrong too, right? Like it'd be really cool for us to be proved wrong. Like for maybe a promoter to just to just. No, no, but it can do. No, it can be.
It can be done. But I'm just saying it's it's all about skill. Yes, you can have a, a, a an event that's just Kenyan with with Hella Kenyans. But like is it going to be at the size of what we're talking about if it doesn't involve Saudi Soul and Nyashinsky? Because that's my thing. Because you know, most people will go out for. And anyone else in that bracket, yeah. Not even anyone else that I'm just talking about. Those you're just you're just saying those those two specifically, OK.
Yeah. Anyway, I don't know. That was an interesting. Talk, man, Shout out though, shout out to them. I mean, I mean, I hope. I hope it works, first of all. I mean, just with the recent, what do you call it, the recent track record of festivals, I really hope that one works out, that the artist that it actually plays out, it'll be really cool to see. Yeah man. Davido said he's excited to come to Kenya again. So yeah, excited to see the PR team said that. Anyway, yeah, what?
Else. What else was What else was going on? Nothing much, really. The only thing I saw was that the oh oh oh, Do you want to talk about Zinnia being on Tiny Desk? I don't have. As much to talk about just congratulations Fam that's that's a big look that's. A That's a big look and it sets up. Sorry, go ahead on there with. No, I was just asking.
Who is she on there with? I'm looking for his name right now because he has a he's a guy I'm not too familiar with, but he's called, he's called Behana Behana. I'm not really too familiar with him.
He is an Ethiopian ATL based singer and Xenia was one of the backup singers or the background singers for him on Tiny Desk, which is really dope and it sets up, it sets up, it sets up a good storyline because now when Zinnia actually gets a Tiny Desk of her own, she'll be like, oh, I remember the time I was a you know what I mean? And everybody loves those
stories. Like you'll see how you'll see how all the blogs will be like oh, artist who was once a background singer on Tiny Desk now has. Their own gets her own show. And then that's going to be like the headline and everyone is going to be like. This is really cool, man. Like, I I really like. I like that these things are opening up for for for like Kenyan artists and Kenyan artists who identify as Kenyan artists. Like it's so dope and and I
think it's open to everyone. Like it's the hard work, it's the proper moves man. Shout out to to to her manager and and the people who are able to get her this. Shout out to Faye, man. Faye. Faye is making a fave man. Also, they were the Grammys, by the way. We never mentioned, but they were the Grammys. Oh, OK. Did you know this? That's nice. No, I had no idea. Oh yeah, they were the Grammys. So shout out to them bro. They're out there. They're outside making moves and doing.
Yeah, making moves, moving and shaking. Making moves, I guess. I guess that raises another conversation. We can have a Commission of another day Where like are we? Are we at a place where we are forced to to go out there to make like these big moves or can we succeed within or 4 walls or I don't? Think no, you can't. You have to. No, no. You have to integrate yourself with the with the Western music market.
Listen, what I've said might sound crazy to you, but look, you look at all the all the big artists now you look at Tyler, you look at Rama, you look at Banner Boy. All of those guys have deals with the major labels from the West. Listen, if you wanna scale. Name of that game. Yeah, if you wanna scale to that level, you have to partner with them. If you wanna just be a local hero, like, you can also do
that. But like, nobody's gonna know you like outside unless you figure out a way to also, you know, get some market share in those other spaces. It's just. It's just how it is. Yo, other news, this is big exciting new sound. They made a video for the harmonized BN and Bobby Shmurda song WE. Don't have to bring this up, by the way. We don't have. We don't. Have no they mean the the What an amazing song, bro. Oh fantastic, fantastic times. Anyway, shout out to them. I mean listen.
All I'm going to say is the message is great. Great message. Uh, yeah. That's all I have to say about that now. That's all you have to say. You've said a lot. Actually, you've said a lot by not saying much alpha. You said a lot by not saying much just just just a just a side piece. We got a little bit of of of hate for our for our view. On Oh yeah Oh my God, Tanzania hates this podcast, guys. Yeah. This is or Tanzania. We're done.
This is, this is not, this is not going to be ever played in Tanzania. But no, I mean so, so and not to explain, because we don't need to explain ourselves, right? First of all, it's just the opinions. It's our opinions. And that's that verse was still objectively not good. Yeah. And we wasn't dissing Harmonize or anything. We were really just waiting in on Bobby. Schwartzman Yeah, I wasn't just remembered. I was in my tattoo the other day because I took my tattoos
because I'm cultured, right? I was in my tattoo and they played the song. Now they played the full song, but they played Harmonize's verse. They played the intro. I'm like, all right, cool, Harmonize this verse. I'm preparing to hear Doo Doo Brown. I'm preparing to hear now. Skipped him completely and jumped straight to what's his name's verse. You can't clap. No, you can't clap for that. You can't. I was actually, I was skipped. We don't need to work now.
They just played harmonized in the end. Yeah, they got. Shout out, shout out to whoever made that mix, man. You know what you're doing. You're a true music connoisseur. They don't want to hear Bobby over here. They want to hear that verse. They they know exactly what's going on. But anyway, man, that's shout out to them. We shouldn't listen. We're not hating on this. Even me if if if I was making my own mixes, it would be the exact same thing. Man, that.
Anyway. Years from now you should have brought even. This is the Why did you just brought it up? Now it sounds like we're haters. That's. Tanzania. Sounds like you don't have anything positive to say. If you look at the comments section, man, we were like really? Really. I like my. 20 people. My TC people, I absolutely like, You guys are doing, you guys are doing Christians out there, but I love it. But listen, The funny thing is,
we weren't even dissing. We were dissing Bobby Schmurder, which by the he absolutely deserves to be discussed like that, were we? Dissing him? No, we just said that. The OK not dissing to OK, Yeah, we weren't dissing. I take back what I said, but we like we were just pointing out that that verse felt like very low effort. It wasn't good, man. He just didn't do the. Video wouldn't help that either. I'm sorry. No, it will.
The video is on 500K views in three days, so despite our opinions, people are going to love it anyway. So whatever. Yeah. Anyway, new music. Sam, what did you listen to? Music, new music. Music. New music, new music, new music. Let me pull it up because I don't remember all of it, offered Dua Lipa dropped. That's who we're talking about. Let's go. So it was interesting You you actually put me on to this.
So generation had dropped. You know the project that they're working on with the the four ladies, Lucundo, Juanita, Wakesho, Bakita. So they dropped a 5 project, five song project with four songs. One, I mean with five, sorry, five. Of course A5 song project will have 5 songs. Jeez, with four songs by each individual and then they have a song that they're all on there together. Did you get a chance to listen to?
It I didn't listen to the whole project, but I listened to the song with how do you say her name? Le kun Le Lucundo. Lucundo. Yeah, I listened to that song and great, like, shout out to it's Hendrix. OK. Do you want him to cut that and use that as a stagner? Actually, the question we should be asking Sam is why did you have your own tag Sam? Yo, so the 5th, the 5th song, the 5th, the 5th song, the 5th song on the project had all of
them together. And I think I'm just interested because I'm interested to know how they sound what they sound like together on a song. So that was like that's I think this is the first time they might have done that. I don't know if I'm wrong but that's interesting. I'm. I'm just looking forward. I'm really curious to see what Soul Generation is doing with
these guys. Yeah, we have our R&B song, Stressed Iana Timing Up and Gay, the producer with a song called The One. That was Dope, That. Was shout out to Iana and Josh. Yeah, The other R&B song, Stress and Jerry released a song called Patience with Dexter. I think that's how you pronounce that. It's Dexter. Yeah, not Dexter. Shout out to Jerry in all cups. NJERI. That's in Jerry on all social media platforms. What are you? What are you doing?
Are you paid? Are you paid from moving along swiftly? Stop. You're being flagrant now. Just relax. Calm down. With only the drama queen. With only the drama queen. Don't be MDQ drama queen. Yeah, MDQ. That's. MDQ on also. She's been a all right. I'm done. I'm done. OK, Because you have. To share this money that you've been paid to because I'm not seeing any of it. All this pay you've been given to put people's socials.
So she was up there. So this is called she released a song called consistency That's good. I mean I've not I've really not heard a lot of Mudoni drama Queen's music so this was interesting. Who else dropped scam. OK now this this was interesting. So so Mr. Seed and Scam cardinality released a song called This year. Now it was interesting to me because scam cardinality, we know him as part of them. The work cardinality we know him for his hard raps bro. He was full on loving and just
like soft on this one. It was really interesting to listen to. I was, I was, I was. I don't know if I was pleasantly surprised. I was just surprised like it was cool like he was trying to get into his dig into his pop bag. You know rappers always have to get into their pop pop bag. All the greatest have done it. So that was that was dope let me see. Oh flyer releases a song called Too Young to Go. I terribly enjoyed that one too. Yeah, Flyers. Always his taste released in Fire music.
Let me see what else let me. See, I'm going to take this chance to say Gabbana by cookie and my. God, I should have started, produced. By Alpha Mefona. Let's go. Let me let me give you your flowers. Very relaxed. Now you. I've taken them. So hype, I've pulled them. From them. So hype. Yeah, I've approached all of them. Yeah man, Shout out to you, Alpham. You put it in work. You're putting me to shame. I need to get on my I need. But don't worry, music is
coming, Music is coming. But man, that was fire. That was fire. G is a farm on a beat run. My guys, my guys streams up. Please guys I really need I really need. Yeah, don't beg. Why are you begging? I'm on my knees right now guys. Please if you can spare some change. Spare some if. You can spare some change stream, please put it, stream it, put it on replay in the night. So like when, you know, you just put your phone on the bed stand and go to bed, like just put the
Gabbana on replay. Yeah, go the whole night streaming farms. Let's start streaming farms for affirms music. Please guys, let's do that. Streaming farms in 10 to 10? Oh, that's the wave. Yeah I mentioned two men then you can you can take it off from there. Sabi we'll release Valentine's Naoko solo I feel attack now that's kind of crazy Valente's now got shouted Sabi for for for putting things into perspective and St. evo release. I really like St.
Evo, man. He released the so-called Y Wahu he's he's he's he's doing a lot in the Afro house scene like I really like it. I'm I'm I'm I'm like clocking his releases and I'm I'm I'm vibing men so you have a good good good job man you're you're you've been releasing consistently and I'm I'm here for it. I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
AFA. I mean you've you've kind of got you've you've kind of gone through everything that I listened to. The only thing you haven't mentioned was there was Save Save Man by Blocker Beats, Boutros, Murro and Kivumbi King and yeah, that's all. And then Sophie Anzhou released Karimu with Dondala and Irene. I think that's how you pronounce it. But yeah, Sam, I think in general the song that was really impressive was Mazishi. Mazishi Boy, Black and Swami.
They buried, they buried. It was beat, man. They put it. They put it 6. Feet under deep. Into the under. No it was really cool. It was it was it was dope.
I I I really appreciate like the just the rap like I think we need more let me say we need more let me not just talk crazy but then it's it's I let me just I'm personally really excited when I hear like just rap like pure rap over sample and and just be saying they really did Yeah man they mixed that English or Swahili. It was it was cool it had energy in it. They had those word play Yeah yeah it was playful it was it was cool dog.
I really enjoyed it, So I think we should play, We should play that for the people. This is Mazishi. No, Sorry Mazishi by Killi, Hippy Boy, Black, and the Swami. Make sure I could make sure. That's my new guess. Let's see your opinion. In fact, yes. Pause for a second. I was running out the wraps, missing my torture. I've been running out the caps where the bitches at. I've been ran out the map because I suggest two things. You're either a piece of paper. Or or. A piece of shit.
See, I'm. Lyrically, Revolution watch where you step Route 46 This here's the address. That was Magici by Boy Black the Swami and Kilihibi Fireman. Just, just just super dope. Just rap music. It's a rap. Yeah, shout out to them. Shout out to them, man, on a super obscure beat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK yeah, man, You know you have to. You have. To. But yeah, man. Guys, thank you guys so much for listening, as always. That was. Yep. Oh my God. That was episode 64, man.
So you're really, we're moving here, moving on up to the. Anyway, we're moving on to the 70s, man. So can't wait for that. But yeah, man, good episode always has. Something special, special planned out for you guys in the 70s? OK, we do. This is needs to be. I'm so excited about. No, we do have. We have so much special stuff. There you go. There you go. There you go. Listen, you guys can expect. You can expect innovation. You can expect excitement. You can expect just amazingly
produced episodes. Now you're doing, now you're. Doing. But guys, thank you guys so much. As usual. You know where to find us. And yeah, that was episode 64. I haven't said this in a while, but we started this podcast so that you guys can listen to way more Kenyan music. And just to kind of get the Kenyan industry talked about, you know, we want to have a digital record, you know, you that you can look at in 20 years and be like, Oh my God, what's
happening in the Kenyan industry. 10 years ago you listened to this podcast and you cannot get like a gauge of what's happening. So. Yeah, man. So yeah, there's that. But like, as always, thank you and we shall catch you on episode 65 We Out. Yep. Out.