What happens when Internal Family Systems meets the mystical? In this episode I’m joined once again by therapist, teacher, and spiritual guide Chris Hancock to explore Transpersonal Internal Family Systems (T-IFS)—a sacred weaving of parts work with direct connection to the Divine. Together, we explore how T-IFS opens portals to higher realms of healing, the many expressions of Divine love and light, and how spiritual beings—including Mother Mary and Isis—can participate in unburdenings and tran...
Jul 07, 2025•1 hr 17 min•Ep. 96
What if our inner parts weren’t just fragments of the psyche—but vessels designed to receive divine love? My guests today are Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer, and Jonathan S. Rose—co-authors of the new book Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg. Together, we explore the playful spirit that brought this project to life and the profound insights that emerged at the intersection of IFS therapy and Swedenborgian spirituality. We discuss Swedenbor...
Jun 23, 2025•1 hr 21 min•Ep. 95
What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention? In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence. Together, we ...
Jun 02, 2025•1 hr 2 min•Ep. 94
What happens when a couple says “yes” to deep healing together—guided by MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and parts work? In this soulful and honest conversation, I’m joined by Steph and Craig, co-hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, to explore their transformative journeys with MDMA-assisted therapy through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, we talk about what it’s like to prepare for these powerful sessions, working with the parts that hold fear or doubt, and what can unfold when ...
May 12, 2025•1 hr 16 min•Ep. 93
In this deeply personal episode, I sit down with my brother, Sam Deering, to explore the layered journey of identity—how it forms, evolves, fractures, and heals over a lifetime. Sam shares openly about his search for belonging through many identities. We dive into big questions like Who am I? and Where do I belong?, weaving in the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) to understand how parts of ourselves are shaped by survival, societal pressures, and the deep human need for connection. ________...
Apr 28, 2025•1 hr 31 min•Ep. 92
What happens when you’ve had two open-heart surgeries before the age of 40, and you’re still fighting the healthcare system—every single day? In this powerful and deeply human conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Jacob Kendall, healthcare advocate and metagerontologist, to talk about what it means to advocate like hell—for yourself, your loved ones, and the millions of people navigating chronic illness and a broken healthcare system. ______________________ We explore: - Jacob’s personal experience of...
Apr 07, 2025•52 min•Ep. 91
What if your birth chart could help you find the parts of you longing to be witnessed? What if the stars weren’t about prediction—but about reflection? In this rich and expansive conversation, I’m joined by Sarah Temel, licensed trauma therapist, IFS practitioner, and founder of No Bad Charts, to explore the deeply supportive intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) and evolutionary astrology. ____________________________ We dive into: 🌙 How astrology-informed IFS uses the birth chart as a...
Mar 24, 2025•52 min•Ep. 90
Longing and heartache—two deeply human experiences that touch us all. In this conversation with Susan Poznyansky, LICSW (they/them), founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), we explore the tender terrain of what it means to long, ache, and hold space for the parts of us that carry these emotions. Susan and I share a love for lakes—their stillness, their depth—and reflect on the parts of us that feel more cautious around the vastness of the ocean. From this imagery, we dive into the three major themes ...
Mar 10, 2025•1 hr 10 min•Ep. 89
What if the key to clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation was already within your body—waiting to be awakened? In this episode, I sit down with my long-time mentor and friend, Jessica Lichaa, a fascia and nervous system specialist, to explore the profound connection between fascia, stored energy, and nervous system regulation. We dive into the body’s role in healing, the impact of tension and unresolved energy, and how awakening the fascia can discharge stored trauma and restore balance. Jessic...
Feb 24, 2025•1 hr 20 min•Ep. 88
What if creativity could become one of your most powerful tools for self-discovery and healing? In this episode, I sit down with Lynn Motley, a licensed mental health therapist and Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, to explore the powerful intersection of Soul Collage® and parts work. We dive into how Soul Collage® serves as a creative and intuitive practice to externalize and connect with different parts of ourselves, fostering self-discovery, healing, and integration. Lynn shares the ...
Feb 10, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 87
Do you find yourself constantly striving, doing, and achieving—only to feel exhausted, unfulfilled, or out of alignment? In this deeply relatable and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with therapist and life coach Allyson Blythe to explore the "Accomplisher" part within us—a part I personally relate to and deeply share in. Together, we unpack the cultural and personal forces that drive us to wear busyness as a badge of honor, seek worth through achievement, and fall into the traps of perfect...
Jan 27, 2025•1 hr•Ep. 86
In this powerful and enlightening episode, I sit down with Natalie Hoffman, author of All the Scary Little Gods, to discuss her journey of deconstructing from emotional and spiritual abuse, and helping others do the same. We explore the deep work of deprogramming from rigid belief systems and aligning your faith with your core values. Natalie Hoffman shares insights on alleviating shame tied to mental health and faith, and how writing from and for your parts can facilitate profound healing. Toge...
Jan 13, 2025•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 85
In this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with my longtime friend Christina Jelesky to discuss our journeys of becoming sober curious. From wild college nights to the reflective moments in our 20s and 30s, we explore the evolution of our relationship with drinking and the profound impact it has had on our lives. Together, we delve into the health challenges that pushed us to reexamine our choices, the sometimes surprising reactions from others, and the internal conflicts we’ve ...
Dec 30, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 84
In this special episode, Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing, leads a calming and transformative guided meditation designed to help you connect with your intuition for deep healing. Tammy invites you to tap into your inner wisdom, quiet the mind, and align with your True Self. Whether you're new to intuitive practices or looking to deepen your connection, this meditation offers a supportive space to release blocks, cultivate clarity, and harness the healing power within. Take a moment, f...
Dec 16, 2024•15 min•Ep. 83
In this illuminating episode, I'm joined by Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing and a seasoned Advanced ThetaHealing® Teacher and Practitioner, to explore the transformative power of intuition in healing. Tammy shares her profound insights on connecting to Source energy (Self/Higher Self energy) and how intuitive abilities—often expressed through the "claires" (clairvoyance, clairaudience, etc.)—can deepen our healing journeys. We discuss how parts in Internal Family Systems (IFS) therap...
Dec 16, 2024•1 hr 27 min•Ep. 82
In this episode, Natalie sits with friend of the pod, Nicki Slattery, to discuss astrology and how it impacts our relationships. Topics Discussed: 1. How astrology can help you and your relationships (romantic and family) 2. The history of astrology and the impact of gravity 3. What is a sun sign and moon sign 4. Synastry chart vs. Composite chart for relationships 5. Nicki reads Natalie's synastry and composite chart regarding her relationship with her husband, Bill __________________________ N...
Dec 02, 2024•53 min•Ep. 81
In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS therapist, author, and meditation teacher Ralph De La Rosa to discuss his new book, Outshining Trauma: A New Vision of Radical Self-Compassion. Topics Discussed: 1. Blending meditation and IFS 2. True mindfulness; not looking at thoughts as the enemy 3. Buddhism meditation and IFS 4. Discussion of the book's three parts and how they are a guidebook for healing __________________________ Ralph De La Rosa (they/he) is the author of three books, including the ...
Nov 18, 2024•54 min•Ep. 80
In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS practitioner, author, and ultra runner Lauren Callahan as they dive into her new book, Couch to 50 Miles: The Story of a Girl, a Trail, and a Relentless Need to Always Run. Topics Discussed: 1. Running as a mirror for life, and parts. 2. The ultra running experience and its connection to Self energy 3. Striving parts and ultra running 4. Writing as healing __________________________ Gut health expert, Ultrarunner, and Reiki master, Lauren is the owner of Go...
Nov 04, 2024•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 79
Sit back and enjoy a mini sound healing session with Sonya Verma! Enjoy :) - Natalie
Oct 21, 2024•5 min•Ep. 78
New virtual workshop series for self discovery using IFS and Human Design , - Starts Friday October 25th 11am-1pm EST ______________________________________ In this episode, Natalie sits with sound healing expert Sonya Verma. Topics Discussed: 1. Sonya's decision to leave medical school 2. Sonya's near death experience and the impacts it had 3. What is sound healing 4. Sound frequencies to access meditative states and healing 5. What a sound healing session looks like 6. Natalie shares her perso...
Oct 21, 2024•1 hr 16 min•Ep. 77
In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS practitioner and author Sara Avant Stover to discuss her new book, Handbook for the Heartbroken. Topics Discussed: 1. Heartbreak is a basic part of the human experience 2. The judgmental culture towards heartbreak 3. Grief as a medicine 4. How to be there for someone who is experiencing heartbreak 5. The three stages of heartbreak: Devastation, Transformation, and Rebirth 6. Techniques to invite when experiencing each stage of heartbreak 7. Benefits of IFS,...
Oct 07, 2024•43 min•Ep. 76
In this episode, Natalie sits with Shelby Pressley to discuss narcissism in the workplace and the impacts it has on our mental health. Topics Discussed: 1. Checking yourself for narcissistic tendencies/parts 2. What does narcissism look like in the workplace? 3. What is indirect bullying in the workplace? 4. Impacts of workplace narcissism 5. Ways to cope with narcissism in the workplace __________________________ Shelby is the owner of Ever-Evolving Wellness LLC in Cincinnati, OH. She specializ...
Sep 23, 2024•50 min•Ep. 75
In this episode, Natalie sits with Martina Williams and Kyle Wehrend to discuss their expertise on highly sensitive people (HSP) and IFS. Topics Discussed: 1. What is a HSP? 2. D.O.E.S.; an acronym for HSP characteristics 3. Environmental sensitivity: Is it nature, nurture, or both? 4. Challenges of being a HSP 5. Benefits of being a HSP 6. Protective parts that help turn down the sensitivity 7. Ways to cope being a HSP _______________________________ Martina Williams is an international coach, ...
Sep 09, 2024•1 hr 13 min•Ep. 74
In this episode Natalie is joined by certified IFS therapist Justin Martin as they discuss the role humor can play in both our professional and personal lives, and how it can help us connect with parts. ____________________________ Topics Discussed: 1. Humor as a form of connection to ourselves and others 2. Humor as a pathway to parts and Self energy 3. Is humor a part or a dimension of Self? 4. Justin's intention for creating and posting funny content on social media related to parts work, IFS...
Aug 19, 2024•55 min•Ep. 73
In this episode Natalie is joined by certified IFS practitioner Valerie Louis PhD as they discuss spirituality and how we can resource beyond Self to access compassion for ourselves and others. ____________________________ Topics Discussed: 1. Being in companionship with your parts 2. What is spirituality 3. Valerie's spiritual journey 4. Connecting to Spirit as a resource 5. Spirituality and skeptical parts 6. Learning and practicing empathy and compassion 7. Resourcing beyond Self ____________...
Jul 29, 2024•1 hr 14 min•Ep. 72
In this episode Natalie is joined by IFS therapist Theresa Soltzberg as they discuss the healing benefits of using creative expressive arts to connect with parts and process trauma. _____________________________ Topics Discussed: 1. What is expressive arts 2. Benefits of expressive arts and connecting to parts and healing trauma 3. How to do expressive arts 4. Simple ways to access creativity and connect with parts on your own _____________________________ Theresa Soltzberg at Expressive Art is ...
Jul 15, 2024•1 hr 9 min•Ep. 71
Today's episode is brought to you by Multiplicity of the Mind Learning Center, dedicated to advancing psychotherapy through IFS. Check out their upcoming workshop "Foundations of Becoming an IFS-Informed Therapist" on July 26th and September 20th (CEU's available). Register for this workshop and more at https://multiplicityofthemind.com/workshops/ ______________________________ In this episode Natalie sits with IFS and EMDR trained therapist, David Polidi, to discuss the magic of trauma processi...
Jul 01, 2024•53 min•Ep. 70
Support the podcast by donating! Funds go towards keeping wellness content available and accessible for all. Thank you for your support! _____________________________________________________________ Natalie sits with friend and fellow IFS therapist, Melissa Johnson, as they discuss mold and its impacts on physical and mental health. Melissa shares about her personal experience with mold exposure and the process of testing, treating, and remediation. Topics Discussed: 1. Melissa's various mold ex...
Jun 17, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 69
Do you feel curious about your attachment style and how it impacts your relationships? Natalie sits with licensed therapist and author Annie Chen to discuss her book, The Attachment Theory Workbook. Natalie and Annie dive into the topics of anxious attachment, avoidant attachment, and secure attachment and how one can utilize their attachment style for self awareness and better relationships with others. Natalie also adds her IFS spin to attachment theory within the discussion as well. Topics Di...
Jun 03, 2024•55 min•Ep. 68
Natalie sits with the pioneer of somatic IFS, Susan McConnell, to discuss her five practices of somatic IFS that can be found in her popular book, Somatic Internal Family Systems Therapy: Awareness, Breath, Resonance, Movement, and Touch in Practice. Topics Discussed: 1. Susan shares her experiences of being a part of IFS development 2. The fragmentation of mind and body in American culture and its impacts 3. What is somatics 4. Objective view of our body vs subjective view 5. The 5 practices of...
May 20, 2024•1 hr 38 min•Ep. 67
