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2.16: Bobby Begins Again

Nov 05, 20242 hr 7 minSeason 1Ep. 28
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In this episode of That Weewoo Show, Alice, Ellen and Bex discuss season 2, episode sixteen of 9-1-1, titled "Bobby Begins Again". After his devastating family tragedy in Minnesota, Bobby moves to LA, where he becomes Captain of the 118, and meets Athena for the first time.

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Transcript

Ellen

Welcome back to That Wee Woo Show, a podcast where we watch and discuss episodes of the ABC show 9-1-1. I'm Ellen,

Alice

I'm Alice,

Bex

and I'm Bex.

Ellen

Thanks, as always, to everyone who has been listening to our episodes, and we really appreciate all of your, uh, support and enthusiasm for this great show that we're watching. Well, sometimes great, always funny, or sometimes dark. Whatever, we love it, and, um, we're glad that you love it too. Uh, Alice, catch us up on what happened last week on 9-1-1.

Alice

Uh, yeah, so last week on 9-1-1, the 118 were mixed up in a bank heist. Lots of fun, um, but during the investigation into Bobby, the fire chief and LAPD discovered some irregularities in Bobby's file and suspended him pending a full inquiry.

Ellen

Oh my god, that's right, we had that awful cliffhanger.

Alice

We did indeed.

Bex

So in this episode we're gonna pick, do we pretty much pick up after? No, we don't, do we?

Alice

Not quite, no.

Bex

Not quite. So we finish Ocean's 9-1-1 with Chief Alonso suspending Bobby, and then, like, thematically we pick up on the same thread, uh, in this week's episode, which is called "Bobby Begins Again". Because they can't really call it "Bobby Begins" because we've kind of already had the Begins episode.

Alice

Yeah, we did that already.

Bex

Yep. We're doing it again. We are doing it again.

Ellen

Bobby Begins Part 2.

Bex

And, uh, this episode first aired in, uh, April, April 29th of 2019. And the official summary says, Bobby reflects back on how he moved to Los Angeles after his devastating family tragedy in Minnesota. He moves to Los Angeles to start over where he becomes captain of the 118 and meets Athena Grant for the first time.

Ellen

And a bunch of other people. I mean,

Alice

yeah, like everyone else as well.

Bex

There's a lot of stuff that happens, I don't, I don't know that meeting Athena is like the highlight of

Ellen

It's the highlight now, I guess, because they're an item, but you know,

Bex

I mean, I guess the first time he gives her his cock is probably going to be a highlight.

Alice

Do you reckon they ever like discuss that?

Ellen

Maybe.

Bex

I don't know.

Alice

Like, huh, when did you think that I, um, I was the one? Yeah, when you handed me your cock that night.

Ellen

Oh no. Okay. Apologies in advance. Fair warning,

Bex

dear listener, there are going to be a lot of cock jokes.

Alice

There's going to be so many cock jokes. We're sorry.

Ellen

We're absolutely not sorry.

Bex

Hashtag sorry, not sorry. Sorry, not sorry for what I said. Okay. But cock jokes aside, are the triggers for this episode, um, because it is Bobby's backstory, there is going to be, um, some pretty heavy triggers. We're going to have structure fires, including a flashback to the apartment fire from episode 1.05. We're going to have some explicit shots of burn victims, death of minor characters, Alcohol abuse, uh, an alcoholic character relapsing, Implied animal abuse, which is the cock fighting.

Um, suicidal ideation an extreme allergic reaction. Not entirely sure why that's on the trigger list, but I'm going to say it anyway, just in case.

Alice

I mean, it was pretty gnarly.

Bex

It was pretty gnarly, but I wonder how many people have actually had that situation happen to them, that it is going to be a trigger. But.

Alice

Better safe than sorry, I guess.

Bex

As we said last week, we prefer to over tag than under tag. That's it.

Ellen

Yeah. Yeah. So this episode. It starts out really dark, like you get gut punched like right out of the gate, but then as we go on, the mood gradually kind of lightens up. So it ends up in a, you know, fairly like I found, I thought as I was going into this episode and we got like the beginning scenes, I was like, Oh my God, maybe I should not watch this. It's like, now when I am not in a place where I can watch a really, like, heavy episode.

But as it went on, I was, you know, it lightened up enough that it was fine. Like, I was engaged with the story rather than just bawling my eyes out the whole way through. So.

Alice

Yeah, you didn't, didn't sob the whole time.

Ellen

No, just the beginning where.

Alice

Just the beginning. Yeah.

Bex

So the episode opens with an empty room. It's concrete walls. Two windows set up high, it's very plain, and there is a folded chair, folding chair smack bang in the centre. And Bobby in full dress uniform walks in, sits down in the chair facing the camera, so he is the only thing we see. And we hear a voice off camera say, please state your name for the record, and we discover that Bobby's full name is Robert Wade Nash.

Ellen

Why are they interrogating him in like a cell? Like he's not in jail. It's just like a blank kind of empty room.

Bex

It's a very interesting choice because it is, like it's a, a deposition or it's some kind of questioning, yet it looks like he's in a prison cell. Yeah.

Alice

Yeah, like, you would think it'd be, like, around a table type thing, but no, it's, like, it feels like there should be, like, a swinging light over the top that they're, like, shining into his eyes.

Bex

Which I guess maybe is meant, it's the atmosphere, it's maybe how Bobby feels going into it.

Ellen

And we never see the peop yeah, it is reflective of his state of mind, I guess, because we never see the people that who are asking him the questions and he's just sitting there very exposed, very kind of, he's got his hands on his knees and he's like, you know, closed off kind of thing.

Bex

I also wasn't sure when this episode started which Bobby we were getting at this point of time. Was this Minnesota Bobby or was this LA Bobby?

Ellen

Yeah. Yeah. It's not clear.

Bex

Because the very next thing we see after, um, Bobby states his name is, we get a 9-1-1 call, which is Marcy calling from the Lakeside Apartments in Minnesota five years ago. So you could think that the Bobby that's being interrogated is past Bobby.

Maddie

Yep.

Bex

So we get a bit of a rerun of the fire in the Lakeside Apartments, but with some extra added gut punches, because I don't think, I didn't go back and check, but I don't think that when we got the 9-1-1 calls on that episode, that we got, um, Brooke on the recording.

Ellen

No, we didn't.

Bex

Saying that she was scared and Marcy saying, it's okay, Daddy's coming.

Ellen

Oh, that was, this is the point where I was like, Oh my God, this episode is going to destroy me.

Bex

Oh, so sad. Yeah, super sad. So we went through Bobby waking up on the roof of the apartment block to the sound of sirens, running downstairs trying to get into the apartment, the floor collapsing underneath him, him trying to climb back up, and the firefighters dragging him out of the apartment.

Ellen

Yeah. they're on the ground, like outside the apartment, and the firefighters are still trying to hold him back when he's trying to go back in, but he says, my family are in there, they, I need to get them out. And then he sees the, the firefighter sees, or whoever is trying to stop him says, you know, let me see your hands. And his hands are all burned up and like, the skin's all off them.

Alice

Yeah, they're trying to, they're trying to treat Bobby and he's just not about it. Like, he just wants to go back in to get to his family and his kids.

Ellen

But he sees someone they've pulled out of the, um, building and it's Marcy and he sees that it's her and he like runs over and he's like, "That's my wife, you gotta let me through." And

Alice

this, this scene is awful.

Ellen

Uh, yeah.

Bex

So he tries to get to the ambulance and he recognizes one of the firefighters who is milling around near the ambulance. And that firefighter who he we get is Phil, um, immediately tells Bobby to go to Marcy. And you can see for a split second, Bobby is about to climb into the ambulance after her, but then he remembers the kids. And Phil tells him, Bobby, "She's alive. You got to focus on that."

And you just know from the emphasis that he puts on she, that they got Marcy out, but the kids didn't make it. And he was trying really hard to get Bobby to focus on Marcy and get in the ambulance before he sees what happens next, which is the firefighters bringing Brooke and Bobby Jr out of the building and putting them in that, in that, in that, Um, tarpaulined area, which is the makeshift morgue, pretty much.

Ellen

Yeah, and Bobby just sobs, it's so heartbreaking. He get, they sort of make him get in the ambulance and

Bex

Almost like shove him into the ambulance and then slam the doors shut and feel bangs on the doors before Bobby can realise what they've done and the ambulance starts driving off. And the last shot we see is an overhead shot of the ambulance driving off and these two little bodies. With white sheets covering them on the black tarpaulin.

Alice

Oh. Um, interestingly, I'm not going to say fun fact because it's not fun. Um, I was sort of keeping like notes as I watched 9-1-1, and I believe Bobby's kids are the only kids that they actually kill ever in the show. Yeah.

Ellen

Yeah.

Alice

Like there are a lot of kids that are in danger. There are a lot, but they always like managed to save them last minute.

Ellen

Well, that's good to know.

Alice

Yeah. Like going in, it's good, but yeah, it's, so it just makes this even worse.

Ellen

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was a part of his backstory, so we knew that it had to be dealt with. I guess we, we had to see it at some point, but.

Bex

That's a good point. So they, yes, they are children, but we never kind of knew them alive. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Like they We've never had that horrible moment of, Oh my God, are they going to make it out alive? Because we know they're never going to make it out alive.

Alice

Exactly. Yeah. And it's, it's interesting from a storytelling perspective. It's also interesting that, um, Lone Star does the same thing. The only kids that have died on Lone Star as well have been in flashbacks.

Bex

That must be an edict handed down from the showrunners, like, thou shalt not kill children.

Alice

Unless it's in a flashback, in which case kill all of the children.

Ellen

I mean, it's still, it's still very sad, but

Alice

yeah, it's just, it's interesting.

Ellen

The impact is slightly less because we knew that it was going to come. Maybe not. So next we are at the hospital where Marcy is still alive. Um, Bobby is there with her, but she's like, sitting, he's standing outside this plastic sheeting that's

Alice

Yeah, she's, she's in a clean room, um, so she's very, very badly burned.

Ellen

Yeah, she's burned all over her, so

Alice

Except that she's covered in bloody bandages.

Bex

The bandages don't look very sterile.

Alice

No, like the bandages are covered in blood, and like, I was watching this one, this was another one that my mum sat in on, because of how, like, she sat in on the first Bobby Begins, so clearly she just wants to say all the Bobby Beginses, um, and she's sitting there and she's just like, "Didn't she get burnt?" And I'm like, "yeah," and she's like, "why is she covered in blood?" Because fire immediately cauterizes everything.

Bex

I can imagine that there might be, like, a bit pussy, perhaps? If there were blisters that broke,

Alice

Maybe, but there shouldn't be blood. Um, no, so it's a weird costume choice, but, um,

Bex

I also found it very interesting that she is heavily burned except for one side of her face.

Alice

Yeah, just the face that Bobby's looking at.

Bex

The side of the face that Bobby is looking at is perfect, is untouched. And it's the side of the priest that's looking at is fully burned. So yeah, she is in a clean room, Bobby is on one side of the bed, there is a priest administering last rites on the other side, which, you know, cheery.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Or what I am assuming is last rites.

Alice

It sounds like last rites, yeah.

Bex

It does, and I don't think there is any kind of I don't believe anybody in that room thinks that Marcy is getting out of that clean room anytime soon.

Ellen

No.

Alice

But she wakes up, so she starts trying to talk. And the priest has to get Bobby's attention. And Bobby's sort of reassuring her that he's right there. It's going to be okay. But all Marcy says is, "Where are the kids?"

Bex

You can see Bobby sort of force a smile onto his face and go, the kids are fine. They're safe. He's lying through his teeth to her. And she says, as she stabs him in the heart and twists a little bit, but she goes, I knew you would come and save us.

Maddie

Hmm.

Bex

And those are her last words before she dies. Um, a code team is immediately called and runs in, but we, like, we know that they're not successful, they don't get to bring her back.

Alice

Um, another thing that my mum said is they wouldn't call a code for that because they already knew that she was, like, beyond saving.

Ellen

Yeah, she was on the way out kind of thing.

Alice

Yeah, so there's no need to call, like, five people into the room.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Yes.

Ellen

Oh, poor Bobby. He just You can see his heart breaking all over again.

Bex

As a reminder to everybody, um, not only did he not save them, but he was the one who put them in danger to start with. Yeah. Accidentally. Not at all intentionally, but It was his space heater. It was his space heater. Yes.

Ellen

Yeah, I think that the bits of this time that we see are not direct repeats of what was in the previous episode. They're like, it starts This is after. Yeah, it started immediately after the fire was lit and he I mean, it's, yeah, he woke up on the roof and

Bex

We do get the little bits of the roof and the hallway and

Ellen

Oh yeah, the hallway, yeah, you're right, yes.

Bex

That's directly lifted from 1.05. But the rest of it, yeah, is the aftermath of the fire.

Alice

Yeah.

Bex

Which we didn't see the first time around.

Alice

But like, the way Because they talk about it later, um, like, the amount of building codes that were violated. Like, if it wasn't Bobby, it would have been. Like it was inevitable that this place was going to go up in flames at some point.

Bex

Yes. Phil, who we find out is the chief of the Minnesotan fire department, goes through quite a list of everything that was wrong with the apartment building. A little bit later. And yeah, it was a, it was catastrophe waiting to happen.

Alice

Yeah. Like, of course, of course, Bobby's going to feel awful. Um, and feel guilty and feel like he

Ellen

Yeah, well, I mean he was directly responsible for it even if it was a bunch of other stuff that failed to, you know, stop the, uh, fire later. But, after the title card we get a complete change of tone and lighting, like, suddenly everything is very bright. They're in Bobby's apartment. And, or at home, I guess, their apartment, the family, and Bobby Jr. and Brooke are suddenly running into the kitchen, and Bobby's cooking dinner, and,

Alice

yeah, he's, he's cooking a fine ragu of assorted vegetables.

Ellen

Yes. Pulled fresh from the Midland soil by people who then sold them to me for money. And then she, then Marcy says, "Wow. Chef Nash. I like the ring of that," you know, and she gives him a kiss and Brooke, who channels all children everywhere, sees this and goes, ew, like my children do as well. They sit down to have dinner, which Bobby has made a lot of food for all four of them. But he,

Bex

he does that. He may, he seems to overcook for people.

Ellen

I mean, I'm all for leftovers, but

Bex

Yeah. I mean, they would, the way Bobby kind of cooks, it looks like they're, he'd be cooking, what, twice a week, and they're eating leftovers for the rest of the week. Yeah.

Ellen

I mean, this is a dream, so maybe

Alice

He's not really cooking, yeah.

Bex

True.

Alice

But yeah, so they, they, Bobby says grace, they start, like, passing the bowls of food around, and Bobby's, like, watching on happily, but Then Marcy looks at Bobby, and like, the sound starts distorting, we hear a man's voice, and Marcy says, "You have to go." Bobby's like, "I don't want to."

Bex

It gets very ominous, there's lightning flashing, the light starts to change, the um, the man is asking if Captain Nash can hear him. And just repeating, like, "Captain Nash, can you hear me Captain Nash?" And Bobby apologizes to Marcy and Brooke asks if Bobby is okay and Marcy says uh, "He's fine honey, we will see him soon, I promise."

Ellen

Oh, my heart.

Bex

The gist of this scene is that, uh, Bobby's pretty much drunk himself to death, and St. Paul, uh, It is St. Paul, isn't it? Yeah. I'm so used to saying LAFD. Um, he, he went to a bar, he got himself drunk, and the ambulance was called to shock him back to reality. Like, if you wanted to do this, a bar probably wasn't the best place. It's a bit public, but you know.

And the first thing he does when he wakes up is grab Phil, who is now in full captain's dress uniform, standing over him and screaming at him, "Why did you bring me back? I was there with them." So we've kind of got the origin of Bobby's suicidal tendencies. And the reason that he's so adamant that if he dies he is going to be reunited with his family.

Ellen

And they get him, they get him out of there and Phil tells them to not say his name on the radio.

Bex

Keep his name off the damn radio.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Um, and then there's a little interesting cut which shows a folder that says the fire incident report for the Lakeview apartment. So the, the implication is that Bobby has read the report and that's what kind of tipped him over the edge. Sent him into a, uh, a death spiral in the bar.

Alice

Um, so then we go to a hospital room and Bobby's in the bed, not looking great, and Phil comes in.

Ellen

Yeah, it's hard to see him like this, where we're used to seeing him being really stoic and sure and like, you know, standing man emoji type guy. And now he's beaten up, he looks like rough as hell. He's like lying in the bed, frowny faced. He's

Bex

So I guess kudos to Peter Krause for his acting abilities.

Ellen

Yeah, well he's actually showing some, some emotion.

Bex

He's got some range.

Alice

Yeah. Like, yeah. Um, but yeah, he asks if he's fired. And Phil says "For what, being an alcoholic? Because pick a day, I'll point you to 10 church basements and you'll see some familiar faces." Um, but then he says, "I guess you read the report." And they cleared Bobby. So Bobby confessed to, like, killing the people, and they cleared him.

Bex

Which is where we get the laundry list of everything that was wrong with the Lakeview Apartments. So the circuit breaker for the space heater didn't trip, the water supply failed to supply water to the sprinklers, the building alarms had dead batteries and no electrical backup, and on and on and on.

Ellen

Yeah, so I'm guessing he's getting out of this without a criminal charge or anything like

Bex

His punishment is, as Phil said, that he survived, that he lived. Yeah.

Alice

So he starts attending AA meetings, um, he, like we've obviously gone a bit forward in time, because he's, like, he's talking about how when he first came there, he was alone, um, he's now got a sponsor, and

Ellen

He's giving a little speech about how he, he's, you know, if you can make the ocean stay still, then you're God, but if, if you can't do that, then just accept that you don't have any power over anything and just roll with it, you know? Like, I don't

Bex

Which is, that's pretty much the, the tenet of Alcoholics Anonymous, right? Isn't that the, the mantra that they have? You know, the, the serenity prayer, God grant me the serenity to,

Ellen

Oh, change the things that I have control over.

Bex

I don't even know what the, but basically, Yeah, it's basically to recognise that there are some things that I can change and there are some things that I can't. Yeah. But we cut to after the Alcoholics Anonymous meeting where Bobby and his sponsor are catching up and we get the, um, the first sighting of Bobby's little brown book of names.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Yeah. It's Oscar, his sponsor says that, um, Bobby has been working the steps and he's about to come up to a difficult one. Here is for some, here is something for when you get there and it's that little brown book that we're used that we saw Bobby with all through season one. And on the inside of the book is, uh, a note that says that it is for.

Step 8 of the Twelve Steps, and Bobby reads it out, and it says that we make a list of all the persons we harmed, and we become willing to make amends to all of them.

Alice

Yeah, it's Bobby book, Bobby's book begins.

Bex

Yes. Um. So that, that kind of explains why he's got this little book, and why he, why he, throughout Season 1, he is numbering off every person that he saves.

Alice

Yeah, because he can't exactly make amends. He can't make amends to the people that he killed.

Bex

Yeah. So that's where he comes up with his plan to save 148 people to make up for the 148 people that he killed.

Alice

So then we cut to Phil's office and Bobby drops his chip on Phil's desk and says "Six months." Phil's like, "Yep, cool, fantastic, keep at it, we can start a poker game, what's next?"

Bex

So un serious.

Alice

Yeah. Like, does not care.

Ellen

Yeah, he's not like, congratulations or anything, he's just like, yeah, whatever.

Alice

And Bobby's like, yep, cool, I need to go back to work, like real work, because he's still riding the desk, um, and Phil says that he's, he doesn't think that Bobby's ready for it.

Bex

Bobby explains his plan. He needs to save 40, 148 people to balance his debt, and he can't do that while he's riding a desk. And then Phil says to him, like, "You might be ready to get back out there, but nobody else is. It's gonna take a while for the rest of the crews to be comfortable walking through a fire with you watching their back."

Ellen

It's a bit harsh,

Bex

which is, it's, it's very harsh, but I think, I guess we have to remember that, um, like the fire started because Bobby was an, an addict and he was coming to work high. So it's not, I guess it's not so much that he started a fire that killed people. It's that he was like off his tits on oxy during a shift.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Yeah. I'm like,

Alice

how are any of them going to trust that he's actually. Sober.

Bex

Sober. When he's working. Yes.

Ellen

Yeah, so he begs Phil to send him somewhere else, because he's got to make a fresh start, you know? Send me someplace. Yeah. Where I can atone for what I've done.

Alice

Um, so he doesn't care where he just wants to get out.

Bex

Which was the part that, like, like I said, all of these Bobby episodes rolled into one, so I assumed that we already knew this part. Yeah. About Phil sending Bobby off to LA to get him out of Minnesota. Um, but. We, I mean, I had already seen it because I've seen this series so many damn times, but I forgot that we only saw this for the first time in this episode. Yeah. So that's what he does. Phil sends him off to Los Angeles.

Ellen

We get some Hollywood music.

Bex

Sends him to the Island of Misfit Toys, which is somewhat ironic.

Ellen

But we do finally get to see some familiar faces.

Alice

Yeah, Hen's walking around, um, Station 118 with, like, a box. And, and she goes, "20 dollars goes in, 100 dollars pays out." Um, so they're betting to see how long the new captain's gonna last.

Bex

Because we find out that they have had six captains in two years.

Ellen

Who do you think is responsible for

Bex

Oh, it's Hen. Hen and Sal. Hen and Sal, totally.

Ellen

Yeah. Too many strong willed people.

Bex

Because you kind of Well, because you kind of Over the course of the two Gerrard episodes and then this one, Tommy just kind of follows what everybody else is doing. Yeah. He's just a tag along. Chim does everything he can to make nice and keep the peace. Hen is the one pushing. Um, and Sal just wants to do what Sal wants to do. So yeah, those two, and definitely Hen, but both Hen and Sal, 100 percent they are the reason that these captains are just like, fuck it, no. I'm done.

Which is kind of, I do feel a little bit bad because I do love Hen so much, but man, she must be a trial if she doesn't like you. Yeah.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Hen is collecting money, betting on how long, um, the new captain of the 118 is going to last. Sal is pretty sure he's only going to last a week, because the guy is from Nebraska, and Chim kind of chirps up and says, "Oh, he's from Minnesota, actually." Sal doesn't care. He says "There's New York, there's LA, and then in between, there's Nebraska."

And he's pretty sure pretty confident that if a barn burns down or a road needs salting, then the new guy's gonna be great, but LA is gonna look like Mars to this podunk.

At that point, the sirens on the engine, on the ladder truck, chirp, and Bobby jumps out of the cab, um, and Sal's last words were that, um, "LA's gonna look like Mars and we're fresh out of training wheels" and Bobby adds "You're also out of half of the supplies that should be stocked in this truck" So he puts 20 in the pool And says, "What are the odds on me lasting longer than any of you?"

Ellen

And they're all like, damn.

Bex

And traitor that he is, Chim's just like, "I've got 20 on the viking."

Alice

Yeah, I love Chim so much.

Bex

Then we cut to Bobby's first day, and I know that I was either getting the music supervisor taken out back and shot or awarding them a medal in the last episode, um, no, in "Broken", um, for their on the nose use of REM. But I think I am going to go. Award them that medal because the montage starts with Ozzy Osbourne's "Crazy Train".

And it just, it fits so perfectly and the music edit, the music supervisor and the editor have worked together really well so that what's happening on screen matches up with the song and I really enjoy this. So we get multiple 9-1-1 calls. We've got a call about a palm tree eating someone alive. We've got a call about someone's head swelling up like a melon. And we've got a call about Maurice going crazy and cutting someone.

Um, and then as the electric, uh, guitars and the melody kicks in, the Trucks roll out of the 118 and start heading out into LA.

Ellen

I love this because the, the calls all, all happen over one another kind of thing. And they sound all a bit strange, like, what are these all about? And then we go to each of the calls and find out what happens. Yes. And they're all like, not at all what you expect.

Bex

The only one we don't get to see is there is one, um, call that they put up that's in Spanish. Yeah. We don't get to see that one. We definitely get to see the other first three. So the first one, uh, that I'm surprised that they get to because for some reason Bobby has decided he is going to be the navigator despite the fact that this is his first day in LA and he is insisting on using a paper map. Much to the horror of everybody else in the truck.

Ellen

Like, what year is this? Uh, it's 2009 or No, hang on. It's after Hen arrives.

Bex

The fire happened in 2014.

Ellen

Okay.

Bex

And then Bobby was six months sober.

Ellen

So it's like well and truly in the age of Google, of Google Maps.

Bex

Yes, basically you've, and especially for LA apparently, I don't think a paper map would have helped him.

Alice

No, especially since we've already learned that there's like 12 streets with the same name and the same intersection.

Bex

Thank God they didn't have to go to San Vicente for any of these. But they're going down to the beach for the first call. They eventually find their way there for the person who is being eaten alive by the palm tree. Yeah.

Alice

So I, I didn't, uh, Look this up. I was going to, and then went and ate cheesecake instead. Um.

Ellen

I mean, that's fair.

Alice

Yeah, priorities. What? What?

Ellen

Yeah, how?

Bex

What?

Alice

What?

Ellen

How did this happen?

Alice

What?

Bex

So, Chim tells us that it was a tree trimmer, and the fronds got him.

Ellen

Yeah, so this guy's got somehow trapped in between two palm tree fronds. And he's hanging upside down.

Alice

Yeah, it's like it's like grabbed him and I'm like, what?

Ellen

And why was this woman on the phone to 9-1-1 going, "It's like it's eating him alive." It's like, no, he's just trapped upside down on top of a tree. The tree's not eating him. What the hell?

Bex

Well, I mean, it kind of, when you look at him,

Alice

"The fronds got him!" I'm so, yeah, like what?

Bex

So it looks, I'm, I'm just very quickly Googling. So anybody who does actually have any knowledge of trimming palm trees, I'm very sorry, but it looks like the, um, because the, the fronds are just so heavy that they collapse. Because, like, he's up on the tree, he's under the fronds, so as he's trimming them, they collapse on top, on top of him.

And it, it must be pretty serious because, uh, Chim later on tells us that, um, they get a couple, they get three or four of these a year, and most of the time either the, um, the, they, they don't make it in time.

Alice

Yeah, like the weight can snap their necks and suffocate them, and I'm just like

Bex

Or they suffocate them.

Alice

Yeah. What? Like, we have, like, in Australia, we have a fair few, like, we have a lot of palm trees, but I've never heard of like, oh yeah, someone's died of palm tree again.

Bex

I think it happens in Brisbane.

Ellen

Does it? Oh.

Bex

Ellen?

Ellen

I never hear about it on the news.

Alice

Cutting to our Brisbane representative, uh,

Ellen

Well, most of the time when palm trees shed their leaves, they just fall down, like, with a crash. Like, I, I don't know. If you need to get up there to trim, I guess, if you don't want them to fall on someone, then you probably do need to get up there and trim them, but,

Bex

I don't know. No, it looks like the people in Brisbane, it's just palm trees falling on them.

Alice

Yeah, right?

Ellen

Okay, well there you go. Like, Anyway, it, so most of the time when they show up to these calls, there's someone dead, there's just a dead guy hanging from the top of a tree.

Bex

Yeah.

Alice

Which is also horrifying. Um, so yeah.

Bex

Bobby's lucky that they actually got a live one this time.

Alice

I'm on, I'm with Bobby. I'm just like, what the fuck is happening? I'm never going to California, which is awkward because I'm pretty sure like two weeks ago we decided to start a Patreon to go to California, but.

Bex

But they, they do, um, what's interesting is Bobby is absolutely flummoxed at what he's looking at and Sal immediately steps up and starts barking orders. It's ordering Tommy to get the ladder, prep the saw, and for Hen to be ready at the base of the tree to attend to injuries. And Bobby's just like, yeah, do that.

Alice

That one.

Bex

Um, but that works. Um, Tommy and Sal go up, they've, um, I guess they, they cut him free, get him back on the, the ladder.

Alice

I should mention, so all these emergencies are sort of happening, like, Simultaneously on the show, um, we're just going to go through Call 1 then call 2.

Bex

I think it might be easier if we just go through, because it does cut backwards and forwards like a lot, yeah. We're gonna get, gonna get confused. So yeah, Call 1, um, in its entirety is, they get the guy down, even though Bobby has no idea. No idea, yeah. I think, by the time they get the guy down, he kind of looks at Chim and just goes, well, that's new.

Alice

Yeah. Yeah. So they get him down. He survives. I'm now terrified of palm trees, uh, and we go to call two, which is at a hair salon.

Bex

I am more terrified of, of, um, call number two. Palm trees are fine, but this is horrifying. So call number two is the, her head is swelling up like a melon. And it is a hair salon where a, uh, a woman has been sitting under the stand dryer, that Sort of old style, because most of the ones that I've used are just sort of the rotating panels around your head but this is the the old fashioned one and She has had some kind of allergic reaction and it's made her head swell so that it's now The

Ellen

It's like a melon.

Bex

Yeah. It's actually, it's actually expanded to get stuck inside the dryer, because normally your head just kind of sits in the dryer and there is plenty of space around it. Now it is actually touching the sides of the dryer.

Ellen

It looks extremely uncomfortable.

Bex

It's, uh, so her whole face is kind of distorting because it's, it's now, it's very, very wide.

Alice

Um, so Bobby tells them to cut her free, but don't decapitate her because it's his first day.

Bex

Yeah. Leave that for like later on in the week.

Alice

Yeah.

Ellen

And they just, uh, just saw the thing off, like they, um, I don't know how they managed to

Bex

They literally get the circular saw out. Yeah. And are sawing away, and the woman tells them, um, that she really does hope that they get her out because she has a big audition that afternoon. Yeah. Just looking at her going, honey, you are not, unless they are doing a remake of Coneheads, you are not getting any part. Yeah.

Ellen

And this, the salon, the lady who works at the salon is like, "We pride ourselves on our green policies. We use non toxic products." And the woman's like, "You didn't use it on my head." Because she's had some allergic reaction to the hair dye.

Bex

Although I swear sometimes the, the non toxic green products are actually worse for you than the like, non green, fully chemicalized, because at least those ones have been tested enough.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Uh, so they managed, did get her around.

Ellen

Yeah. They manage to cut this thing in up so that it can be sort of removed from her head. And she kind of, the

Alice

Hen says that she doesn't think that she's getting the part. Yeah. Um, Uh, and so that's the end of that one. Um, wait, this is where we get like the, um, the thing with. The scene with Bobby and the map.

Bex

So all sort of, as we're cutting backwards and forwards between these ones, uh, Bobby is continuing to try to navigate the truck from call to call. Um, and he's getting increasingly, increasingly frustrated.

Alice

I, I just, I laughed so hard because they turned onto the freeway, which is a terrible idea in LA.

Bex

Bobby is so excited, he's just like, freeway, let's take the freeway because, you know, In Minnesota, the highways are pretty much empty, you can go as fast as you want on them.

Alice

Apparently, I'm pretty sure everyone in St. Paul's gonna call, call us up somehow and go, no, we have traffic. Um, but yeah, it's, it's bumper to bumper, like they cannot get through. And Bobby just goes, "It's two o'clock in the afternoon, where are these people even going?" And that's literally me, every time I have a day off, I'll go to the shops and be like, do these people not have work? As if I'm not. I'm also not at work.

Ellen

I wonder that as well.

Alice

But like, why is it so busy on a Thursday afternoon? I don't understand.

Bex

I don't understand why nobody spoke up and just went, "uh, Cap, that's not a good idea." They're just, like, they are just letting him dig himself a hole. Yes, pretty much. They're just waiting for him to fail. Um, but yeah, interestingly, like, we All three calls kind of overlapping and the first two calls that we visited seem to be happening kind of back to back, but we don't get to the third call until evening has fallen.

So has this poor guy been hanging out in his backyard for hours waiting for the 118 to show up?

Alice

I mean, they might have, we don't know when they started their shift. They might have started their shift at like 4 p. m. or something. Oh no, it's 2 p. m.

Ellen

Yeah, where are these people going at 2 p. m.?

Alice

Yeah. I don't, I don't know, man. I don't know.

Bex

So I'm really hoping that the call about Maurice kind of came in later in the day and they've just laid it over with all of these for dramatic effect and it's not that he called at the same time as they were going to the beach and they've just decided that Maurice is a low priority call so they're going to leave him until they get to him later in the day.

Ellen

I think you're thinking too hard about it again. Well, anyway, they, they do turn up and there's a guy, uh, covered in blood in the backyard. Bobby is very excited

Bex

because he knows how to deal with a stabbing.

Alice

Yeah, a stabbing's a stabbing. You would think.

Ellen

Yes, but Chim looks at this guy and says, I'm not seeing any stab wounds, they just, he's just been slashed with something. And Hen says, "They don't look like knife wounds." And Chim's like, "Razor blade?" Neither of them have actually thought to actually ask the guy yet, because he's quite lucid and, you know, awake. Bobby says, can you tell us what happened? And the man's just like, "Maurice went crazy!" And so

Bex

Which is probably why Chim and Han didn't bother asking him, because that was completely unhelpful.

Ellen

Yeah, and, but Bobby tells them it's okay, the police are on their way. And, and he's like, "Police? No, no, no." And then he goes, "Look, there he is, he's coming, he's coming." And this, like, basically a rooster. Runs into the scene and looks like he's going to attack everybody.

Alice

Um, yeah. So not only is it a rooster, he has a tiny knife strapped to his leg.

Ellen

Yeah. I didn't actually notice this knife until the end when it got pulled off him.

Bex

When Bobby takes it off the, the ankle. Yeah.

Ellen

But, uh, yeah.

Bex

So we have, they have stumbled into a cockfighting ring. And Hen is absolutely horrified. And says that, that's, that's what we're doing here at Cockfighting Ring. Why are we helping him? The man kind of sneers and says, "What are you, one of those animal rights types?"

Ellen

And Chim goes,

Alice

"Well, her name is Hen."

Ellen

I love that, that made me laugh so hard. Mostly because I wasn't expecting it. Yeah.

Bex

So, but to make this even funnier, Maurice, Because the, the rooster's name is Maurice, is, uh, flapping and lunging at everyone while banjo music is playing over this entire scene.

Ellen

And the man's like, "he's going to attack, don't look at him."

Bex

So once again, Sal decides that he is going to prove that he is the true leader of the 118, and he and Tommy are going to handle this. Um, Chim and Hen just kind of go, no, we're out of here, we're going to take our vic and go. Um, and we get this hilarious moment, this hilarious, um, couple of moments of Sal and Tommy both chasing and running from this chicken around the backyard.

And like, Tommy at one point looks like he's about to do like the karate kid, um, I can't even remember what it's called. It's the one where he like, one up on one leg, lifting his arms up and he's about to

Alice

Oh, the crane kick?

Bex

Yeah. Yeah. That one. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but then immediately just flinches backwards when Maurice goes for him. Um, meanwhile, Bobby is standing in the background pissing himself laughing.

Alice

Yeah, like, he's trying not to laugh and then just gives up and just openly laughs. Um, Tommy's like making kissy noises at him and Sal's like, "what, you're gonna kiss him?" Um, which is amusing.

Ellen

That was when I was like starting to be going, oh, he's gonna, there's a, oh, never mind.

Bex

No Tommy leaves kissing, kissing cocks for, you know, after work.

Ellen

Yeah, that's later on.

Alice

Yeah. For leaves that for season seven. Chim and Hen just are just like, Nope. And completely high tail out with, um, the guy that got attacked by the rooster. They're just like, Nope. Back to the ambulance. We're, we're not dealing with this. And Bobby, who's still, like, laughing, just grabs a towel and, like, places it over Maurice and wraps him up in it. And he's just like, I got you, you're okay, I got you.

Bex

Very pointedly says to Sal, "West Coast meet Midwest."

Ellen

I get the feeling that they probably still don't chase all that many chickens around in, uh, St. Paul.

Bex

I will.

Ellen

It's still a city.

Bex

It's, it's a great shot, but Tommy and Sal were trying to get Maurice when he was running around. Um, Maurice landed on the edge of like this, um, paddling pool, like one of those external pools. And he's just sitting nicely, very quietly, very demurely on the rim of the pool, just waiting for Bobby to like, place the towel over him. So

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

He didn't really work that hard.

Alice

I mean, I think, I think the difference was that, um, that he was being like calm, whereas the other two, the dumb and dumber OG were, um, were running around making stupid noises and flapping, literally flapping.

Ellen

Yes. And he takes the tiny knife off the, off the leg and

Alice

He does. He takes the tiny knife off.

Ellen

And sort of looks at it and goes, Oh, but then. Athena arrives.

Bex

Yes, uh, she has a, she's had a call about a stabbing with an unknown assailant. Um, Bobby says, well, actually his name is Maurice, and then just immediately gives Athena his cock.

Ellen

Yeah. And she's just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know. I

Alice

don't know what was, was. The first thing was,

Ellen

I'm married to a gay man. I don't understand.

Alice

I was about to say, maybe she should be asking Michael for some tips.

Bex

In all seriousness, he hands her the chicken.

Alice

Yeah, he hands her the rooster, um, and says, "don't worry, he's been disarmed, go easy on him. He's had a rough day." And then he just leaves.

Ellen

And then he just bails. They all just.

Bex

And everybody leaves.

Alice

And Athena's just like, um. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Bex

Nope. Nope. You take it back to the precinct, you like, fingerprint him, you take cute little photos of him.

Alice

Do you reckon she took it home and Michael was just like, actually.

Bex

It's either that or everyone at the precinct had chicken nuggies for lunch that day.

Alice

Poor Maurice.

Ellen

I think, I think he got sent to a nice farm somewhere. Outside of LA.

Alice

I'm sure he did. Yep.

Ellen

Oh, so it feels like Bobby's had a pretty good day.

Alice

Yeah. Like it ended quite well. It looks, yeah,

Ellen

it feels like he was in good spirits. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, he's on the phone to Oscar, who's his sponsor and Oscar's asking him if he's been making it to meetings and Bobby's like, yeah, it hasn't really been a problem. and then he, you know, says goodbye and then when he gets out of the car he's actually outside of a bar and he goes inside.

Bex

It looks like he's about to walk into an AA meeting. Yeah. They're making it seem like he's hanging outside of a building ready AA meeting and then he gets up and he gets out of the car and he walks through the doors and as he walks through the camera pulls back and we see that he's actually walking into a bar. Which, I mean, I guess that would be an easy way to boost recruitment for your AA meeting by holding them in a bar, but I also think it would be slightly counterproductive.

Ellen

Yes. But no, he must have taken the first day harder than we suspected.

Bex

So the next time we see Bobby, he is in church.

Ellen

It's THE church, the one with the pretty windows.

Bex

It's THE church. And the hot priest, except hot priest is not here yet.

Alice

Yeah, because the pilot has, it's the hot priest. Is it his first day in the pilot?

Bex

Uh, he just says he must be pretty damn new.

Alice

Yeah. Um, I know he says he's new, but I can't remember if it's like his first day, but yeah, he's, well, it's the first time they meet. So, um, yeah, so we get the, the old priest,

Ellen

Old priest and a hot priest.

Alice

Um, not saying that old people can't be hot, but this is not Hot Priest, it's important to distinguish.

Ellen

OG Hot Priest. No, no.

Alice

No.

Ellen

Anyway. No. Uh. This is the first time that Bobby meets this guy? As well? I feel like. Um. So they have a

Bex

Well, if he's If this is the day after his first day in, uh, first day on shift, so he must not have been in Los Angeles for very long, so he probably hasn't had a chance to sort of find his local church.

Ellen

Well Yeah, so he doesn't confess to the whole thing with this guy. He says, you know, there aren't enough candles in the church for the people that I hurt, but, um, he's feeling guilty for having a good day. basically. Yeah,

Bex

he didn't have a bad day. He had a good day.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Um, but he doesn't get to have those.

Ellen

No, the priest says, don't you don't get to be happy? And he's like, no, I, I don't get to forget. And for a moment while I was having a good day, I forgot that I wasn't, you know, allowed to have a good day. So the priest says that, um, "The only person who was good at multitasking from a cross was that guy," and he like points at Jesus. And I'm like, does this mean that Bobby is holding a cross? Like, you know, he's got his cross that he's dragging up the hill or whatever.

And maybe he needs to just stop trying to drag it around. But Bobby's like, I'm going to drag this damn cross all the way to the very top of the hill.

Bex

He, um, he tried to. put his one year sobriety chip into the collection because he basically, he broke his sobriety the night before but the priest gives it back to him and tells him that he needs to earn it again.

Alice

I don't, like, are they worth much? Why is he giving it to the collection plate? I don't know.

Ellen

I don't think they're worth anything to anyone else.

Alice

Like the church is like, thanks, what are we going to do with this?

Ellen

This is not going to help us.

Alice

Like was it symbolic? I don't understand.

Bex

I think it was just a nice way to get the ball rolling for their conversation. So, while Bobby is contemplating his sobriety and dragging his cross up the hill, um, we are going to go to Guillermo's eatery, which is pumping. Great night at Guillermo's.

Ellen

Pumping with silence.

Bex

Yeah, because there's like three people in there. Two of them live there. Two of them own it. Uh, yeah, Guillermo's is not doing well. Uh, they are dead. The books are not looking good. They did worse than they did last month, which was worse than the month before.

Ellen

Did you recognize this woman?

Alice

Yes. It's Misha's Gotham Knights girlfriend.

Ellen

Yeah. I just remember that her name was Rebecca.

Alice

My notes specifically say, Hey, it's the chick that Misha fucked. Hey, Um, she's also in Community as a professor and she's in, uh, Grey's Anatomy as well.

Ellen

Huh. I was, I was looking at her thinking, I definitely know you from somewhere.

Bex

It was like, like, it's like, I know that face.

Ellen

Yeah, yeah. But no, she, yeah, she's the evil bitch from, from, um, Gotham Knights, yeah. Yeah, they're not having a good time. a good time of it at the, at Guillermo's. Um, and the, the man goes and tells the one guy who's sitting at a table in there, uh, like, "If you don't order some food, I'm going to have to ask you to leave because you haven't ordered any food." And the guy's like, "Fine, I'm taking my business elsewhere." And he leaves. He's like, what

Alice

business?

Ellen

And the man's like, business. And then after he leaves, he's like, "What business?"

Alice

Cause he turns around and the place is completely empty.

Ellen

Yeah. And so then he sets the place on fire. It's pretty obvious that's what's happened because, you know, he's really upset about it. And then we get the nine on one call where, um, Rebecca from Gotham Knights is like, our restaurant's on fire. I think our son's in there. And so,

Bex

Yeah, because we had a, um, a quick establishing sort of conversation where their son, Freddie, was sort of tucked into a booth in the restaurant, watching something on his laptop. And when, um, Victor told his wife that she should probably just go home, that he could handle the restaurant for the rest of the night by himself, um, he told her to take Freddie and go home. And Freddie's like, no, no, I want to finish what I'm watching. Like, I'm up, I'm up, I'm up at the best part.

I can't leave just yet. And like, it's portable, Freddie, you can take it with you and finish it. Um, but he, She said, "I left his laptop inside and he went back for it." And I'm going, ma'am, why was your son not responsible for his own laptop?

Alice

Um, regardless, uh, Freddie ran back in and vanishes.

Bex

So, Victor sets the restaurant on fire. Um, Freddie

Alice

No, we don't know this yet. Don't spoil it.

Bex

Ellen just spoiled it!

Ellen

It's really obvious that's what's happened.

Alice

It's so obvious. Like, my notes the whole time are like, Oh, so he set the restaurant on fire, right?

Ellen

I don't think it's supposed to be a mystery. Like, I think we know exactly what's

Alice

happened here. Like, Bobby's the last one to work it out. Honestly.

Bex

Everyone else has figured it out. So yeah, he's a He set the place on fire, um, not realizing that Freddy has snuck back into the restaurant because his mother has left his laptop behind, even though it was his responsibility. So then he has raced back into the restaurant to try and get Freddy. And, uh, and the, the, Rebecca is freaking out because now both her wife and, both her husband and her son are in this burning restaurant. Um, and she

Ellen

Her name's actually Lauren in real life. No, it's Rebecca. But I'm going to call her Rebecca.

Alice

Or Professor Slater. I can go Professor Slater.

Bex

Regardless, um, Athena has also been called to this call, and she is holding back, um, Professor Rebecca Lauren Slater.

Ellen

Her name's Ellie.

Bex

Who is

Ellen

Sorry, Ellie in 9-1-1.

Bex

And she's She's saying to Athena that the sprinklers didn't come on. Why didn't the sprinklers come on? And I'm going, Oh, so Guillermo's was built just as bad as well as the Lakeside Apartments was built.

Alice

Yeah. Right. It was, it was actually, it's the same landlord, the same landlord of Bobby's, once his apartment burned down. He was like, Oh, I'll go into the restaurant game. It's fine.

Bex

Um, but at least with this call, Bobby knows what he's doing, because it's a fire, and a fire is a fire whether you're in St. Paul or whether it's in Los Angeles, so he starts barking orders. He's got, um, he tells Tommy to hit the roof. He's, he wants Chimney and Hen to start setting up for the smoke inhalation. Um, he tells Sal, well he never gets to tell Sal what he wants him to do because Sal has disappeared into the restaurant.

And when he tries to call him over the radio to ask him what the fuck he is doing, Sal just says, "I'm doing my job. I'm saving lives." So then Bobby has to go into the restaurant to save Sal's life. Because like, I get what Sal is doing, but if he's going to, if he's going to do that, he needs to stay on his radio. Because. He needs to keep Bobby up to date.

Ellen

Yeah, and I'm not entirely sure what Bobby is doing going into the restaurant. Like

Bex

Saving Deluca's arse.

Ellen

Yeah, but is it worth having two of them in, in, in danger?

Bex

Well, I guess it's, it's Deluca and Victor and Freddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Ellen

that's true. There are still two people inside, so

Bex

There are three people in that restaurant that need to be hauled out. But, um, when Bobby gets inside, we get, uh, he calls over the radio to somebody, I'm not sure who he's communicating with, that it's, there are flashover conditions inside the restaurant.

Ellen

Do we know what that means?

Bex

According to Wikipedia, yes. A flashover is the near simultaneous ignition of most of the directly exposed combustible material in an enclosed area.

Ellen

Mm.

Bex

Um, which I went, okay, I guess that makes sense in some language. Yeah, um, I'm going to read quickly. There is a wonderful thread on Reddit which is just firefighters explaining shit to civilians. Oh. Um, and a flashover is when a fire in a room turns into a room on fire.

Ellen

Okay.

Bex

For a more detailed answer, as items burn they release heat energy. The items around that burning item start to absorb the heat. Eventually those items can't absorb any more heat and start radiating back into the room. Um, Think of a wastepaper bin on fire in a room next to a sofa. The sofa will absorb the heat from the bin, as will the walls, the floor.

They will start to give off their own heat, and while this is all going on, smoke, which is basically unburnt fuel, is filling the room, which heats the ceiling. Everything starts getting hotter and hotter and hotter, and then everything just combusts simultaneously.

Ellen

Jeez, okay.

Bex

Yeah, it's sounds a bit scary.

Ellen

Thank you. Thank you for that, uh, definition.

Alice

Thanks Firefighter Bex.

Ellen

Yeah. Um, and he, he gets around, he gets inside and looks at everything and there's fire all around him. And suddenly he starts to flash back to the fire in his apartment building. And

Bex

suddenly the restaurant looks like the hallway of the lakeside

Ellen

apartments. Yeah, and he's yelling for Marcy and the kids, but he sort of closes his eyes and then when he opens them he's back in the restaurant. So he sees somebody through the smoke and it's Victor, um, and he's still, he's okay, he's just lying there on the floor for, like, I don't know, he's, he's up, conscious. Um, he tries

Bex

Yeah, he's conscious because he's, he's calling for Freddy.

Ellen

Yeah. Uh, he starts to drag him out of there though, and this is when we get the flashover.

Bex

Yes. Which looks really cool because all of a sudden it's just flames. Yeah. Coating the ceiling.

Ellen

And they add in, like, slow motion here too, which makes it extra scary, apparently. Um,

Alice

Um, but yeah, Bobby, like, drops and shields Victor with his body.

Bex

And his magical turnout coat.

Alice

And his magical turnout coat that, um, not only protects from fires, but also heavy water. Yeah. Um, and Chimney comes over the radio and says there's a skylight right above them. right above him.

Ellen

How does he know?

Alice

And Bobby says he's going to vent the roof. And yeah, I have no idea how Chimney knows where he is. It's clearly GPS. Um.

Ellen

He said it, he did send them, did he send Chim to the roof? He sent someone to the roof, didn't he?

Bex

He sent Tommy up to the roof. Yeah, because he asked Sal to get on the roof and didn't. No, so, um, Canard was on the roof. Han and Wilson were setting up, um, the, the smoke inhalation. he never got around to telling Sal what to do.

Alice

Oh, didn't he? Okay.

Bex

Um, but yeah, Chimney somehow manages to find, to divine exactly where Bobby is in the location, and somehow managed to get the plans for the building to know that there's a skylight up there.

Alice

Chimney's just that good at his job, okay?

Ellen

Um, and yeah, but Bobby also knows exactly where the skylight is. Maybe he can see more than we can, because he, he then throws a shovel, right?

Bex

No, an axe.

Ellen

Where does he get his axe? The axe.

Bex

I'm assuming that they just carry

Alice

It's part of the turnout, yeah.

Ellen

Okay.

Bex

And then But yeah, he just literally throws it straight up in the air, trusting that Chim was correct, that there was a skylight right above him. And it kind of disappears into the flames. And we hear glass breaking, and then large shards of glass just rain down on the floor. And then, in a very impressive, um, bit of CGI, all of the flames just get sucked. Through that vent that he's made shooting straight up.

Ellen

Yeah, hopefully Tommy wasn't out there.

Bex

Hopefully Tommy got out of the way

Ellen

Yeah, he's gonna need rescuing again.

Alice

Tommy's like we're clearing the roof and Bobby's like too fucking late

Bex

Otherwise we're gonna end up with like another Kevin situation. Yeah, we don't need that.

Alice

Oh, no But it works Bobby drags Victor outside Can I? He drags him, like there's

Bex

He drags him. He, he has, he holds Victor up sort of until he's almost standing. And he's got, Bobby's got his arms under Victor's armpits and he's dragging him. So why is Bobby dragging Victor, where the last time we saw somebody pulling somebody out of a burning building, they had them across their shoulders and running.

Alice

Yeah, like, Chim is tiny. Clearly they lost, like, the tummy, the tummy, they lost the Tommy dummy. Yeah. And they were just like, oh, fuck, like, yeah, you're just going to have to

Bex

Either that or Peter's just gone, um, no, I'm not doing that. That makes no sense. I'm going to drag him. Whereas Kenneth is like, no, I want the big action sequence scene. Let me running out with the flames exploding behind me as I've got this dummy across my shoulders because that's going to look so fucking cool.

Ellen

It could also be that this guy is conscious, like Bobby's dragging him, but he's, he's able to use his feet a little bit. Whereas if Tommy was completely out, then, you know, it would be

Bex

I don't know. It's just I don't know. It's just

Ellen

It doesn't matter because he's okay.

Bex

Yeah, so Bubby drags him out, pretty much dumps him with Tommy and then turns to go back inside because he's still gotta get Deluca out.

Ellen

Yeah, but he's already out. And the kid. He's got the kid with him.

Alice

Yeah, um, they're just like, no, no, no, we got him, we're fine.

Bex

Yeah, because Sal came out the back door and conveniently decided not to radio in to anybody to tell them that he'd got out.

Alice

Oh, why would he be communicative now?

Bex

I, yeah, I, that's just so frustrating. I can understand why Bobby is so pissed because he would have gone back into that building and he would have searched it, top to bottom putting himself in risk for somebody who wasn't in there.

Alice

Yeah. Yeah,

Bex

so Professor Slater, Ellen, whatever her name is, and Freddie have this, this very touching reunion by the ambulance where Victor is getting loaded in And Freddie is asking if his dad is gonna be okay Chim says yeah, he'll be okay, but we've got to move him. So everybody gets loaded into the ambulance and And then Bobby has obviously never seen any kind of medical or police TV show, because he stops them for a second and says, "It's gonna be okay. I promise."

Alice

You don't promise anything.

Bex

You never promise anything, Bobby.

Ellen

It's just what Bobbys do.

Bex

But it's, it was, it's such a stupid line, too, because there's kind of nothing leading up to it that would make sense. warrants that kind of response. Like, Freddy wasn't freaking out. He wasn't begging for help. He's just like, is dad gonna be okay? Everyone's gone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna be okay. And Bobby's like, yes, I promise everything is going to be okay. Because I need to set up a storyline.

Ellen

So he gets cross with Sal.

Alice

As he should. Yeah, so Sal says that he found the kid hiding in the bathroom and probably saved his own life with that move. And Bobby just goes, "I'm glad someone was thinking tonight." And Sal's like, uh, what?

Bex

What does that mean? So everyone goes back to the 118, gets cleaned up, shift ends. Um, Sal and Tommy are on their way out in, they're in civilians, they're obviously ready to go home. Um, when. Bobby calls and says, calls over and says, "Deluca, I need a minute." And Sal just keeps walking. He doesn't even give any indication that he's heard.

Tommy hears and sort of looks back and he's sort of looking backwards and forwards between um, Bobby and Sal going like, "Dude, you're gonna answer?" But Sal doesn't do anything until Bobby snaps at him like, "Now, Deluca." He gets this like, really pissed off look on his face and turns around and starts giving Bobby a piece of his mind.

Ellen

And they all come out, like Chim and Hen, and everyone come out to watch.

Bex

He's like, fight, fight, fight!

Ellen

There's something going on. Tommy actually tells him to stop.

Bex

Tommy's trying to calm, trying to calm him down. He's like, Sal, stop. Bobby warns him to watch his tone. And so Sal just, Keeps on digging. He says, "why? Because you're my captain? You're not. You're just the latest jackhole in a long line of jackholes that come into this house and think they know how to run it." And Bobby shoots back, "what? You think you know how to run it?" Sal's like, "Yeah, that kid would have been dead right now if it wasn't for me."

And Bobby's like, "No, we could all be dead right now because of you. We got lucky." Sal's like, "No, That wasn't luck, man. That was skill. I've got the kind of skill it takes to save lives and lead this house."

Ellen

So we finally find out why Sal is so upset about the whole thing.

Bex

Yes.

Ellen

Because he got past over.

Bex

But I do think it's funny that we find it out through one of Chim's pop culture references. Because Sal says, "I've got the skill to lead this house." Bobby says, "You might have the skill, but you don't have the temperament." And that's it. Sal, like, throws his duffle down and goes to square up and Bobby just, um, Chim darts in between the two of them. He's like, look, "We get it, Fredo. You got passed over." I'm like, I've got to look that one up.

Um, so, uh, Fredo refers to Fredo Corleone, who, it's from the Godfather. He was the second son of the Godfather. And when his older brother, um, Sonny, was assassinated.

Alice

Oh my god, spoilers!

Bex

The chain of succession would be, um, you would think that Freyda would then step up to become the the next in line to be the godfather But he gets passed over and his younger brother Michael actually gets tapped So there we go. I do like the Chim's just like, "Now let it go." And even though Bobby is standing right behind him, he's like, "and say you're sorry." Sal just says, "you want me to apologize to this mook? Never gonna happen."

Alice

So, mook, mook?

Bex

Mook.

Alice

Mook. Um, It's I can't remember which episode it's in, but Gerrard says it too. And I just love that it's like brought back in this episode. Like, like brought back later in this episode.

Bex

So it's obviously something that they've picked up from Gerrard.

Alice

Yeah, but it's definitely from Gerrard.

Bex

They're saying New York slang, so I'm gonna say it's probably something. This one says

Ellen

Italian American a person of little social standing not worthy of respect. Okay, that's not as bad as I thought it would be.

Bex

Which I guess kind of fits in with calling him with the old godfather. Oh, okay, so Deluca is Italian, so it would make sense that he's using Italian American slang. Well, it also, it could just be, yeah,

Ellen

from the Godfather, like, from popular culture anyway, okay, it's less offensive than I thought it was.

Bex

So, uh, Deluca insults Bobby, and Bobby, uh, Bobby says, "Okay, you are going to learn to respect the chain of command or you're not going to work here anymore." Sal says, "Screw you." Bobby goes, "Okay, cool, you're relieved of duty."

Ellen

And he's like, "You're firing me?" But yeah, Bobby says, get out. So, bye Sal.

Bex

We go a little bit later, I think the next day maybe? Because Hen comes upstairs and she's back in duty uniform. Um, but Bobby is sitting in the loft kitchen with his little book of names and we see him write his first entry in the book. So, uh, number one on his um, list of people that he's saving to make amends is, he writes Guillermo's. Well, he starts to write Guillermo's, but before he can complete it, um, him comes upstairs. And he writes.

Ellen

Well, he saved Guillermo's life, so maybe he didn't have an S on the end. Assuming that the guy who he saved was actually Guillermo.

Bex

I'm gonna say that like, is he Guillermo? Alright, I gotta look this up.

Ellen

I've got the, I've got the IMDb thing open at the moment. Hang on, let me just look. No, his name's Victor. Right? Is that him?

Bex

Yeah, but is his surname Guillermo? Yeah, his surname.

Ellen

No, Guillermo is a first name though.

Bex

It can be, but it could also be a surname. It

Ellen

could be, but they don't, they don't list the surname in IMDb, so who knows.

Bex

I'm trying to find the character. Nope, not his last name. So literally he's just writing down the

Alice

name

Bex

of the restaurant. Okay. He's writing down the name of the restaurant. He probably can't remember the guy's

Ellen

name.

Bex

The surname, the surname is Costas, so it's Victor Costas.

Ellen

Okay. There we go.

Bex

Uh, yes.

Ellen

So he's Greek and he runs an Italian restaurant.

Bex

He runs an Italian restaurant.

Alice

No wonder it's failing. Jesus.

Bex

Anyway, it, regardless of what he's writing, he gets interrupted because Hen comes upstairs and Bobby says to her, as she comes up, did one of you polish the pipes on the engines or did you delegate that to a probie? And Hen's like, no, no, that, that was me. Why did it not expect, did it not exceed your expectations? Captain, she's kind of challenging him a little bit and he just flat face says no.

Ellen

She's like, excuse me?

Bex

Bobby has such me a dad sense of humor, . Alice: Oh, it's so bad. No, it, it did not meet his expectations because it exceeded it.

Alice

It exceeded them.

Bex

He leaves her hanging for a couple of seconds. He likes torturing people like that. Apparently. So she asks about the book, and Bobby gets a little bit huffy and very pointedly puts it to one side, like, we're not talking about the book. Um, Ken notices this and just says, "Uh, sorry, just trying to make conversation." So Bobby says, "Okay, Wilson, what do you want to talk about?" And Hen corrects him and says, "no, people call me Hen.

Not to be confused, not to be confused with Han, who everyone calls Chimney." And then, yeah, Bobby says, "Why do we call him Chimney?" And Hen says, "You'll have to ask him."

Alice

Yep. So again, we still don't know why his name's Chimney.

Bex

But at least we've narrowed it down now. So it's something that happens post Gerrard but pre Bobby in that two years when they were like, when they had captains coming backwards and forwards. So something happened in those two years. That's when it happened.

Ellen

But I love that this is a now running joke that everyone keeps asking why, and no one actually answers.

Alice

No one. Yeah, no one answers.

Ellen

They just said, oh, I'll have to tell you about it later, or go and ask Chimney, you know?

Alice

Or this is not appropriate for children, do not tell Chris, what the fuck are you doing?

Ellen

Yeah, so they really set themselves up for like, having to come up with something really great if they ever reveal it, but

Bex

They're never, like we said, they're never gonna do it. It's just

Ellen

They can't now.

Alice

No, there's, there's not enough, like, there's too much hype, and they'd ruin it if, with a story. Yes. I would rather they absolutely never told us, because it's way better that way. Yeah.

Bex

Exactly. Yeah.

Alice

It's like, um, I've been watching How I Met Your Mother again. Yeah. There's a character called "the slutty pumpkin" that they mentioned in season one.

Bex

Katie Holmes!

Alice

Yes, Katie Holmes, right? Yeah, Katie Holmes is a slutty pumpkin. But, like, it's, like, this whole built up thing and, like, it's a metaphor about Ted's life and, like, Ted as a character, and then in the second last season, they, they're just like, oh yeah, let's revisit it, and it's Katie Holmes, and it's so stupid because they just do it to close Like, the close off that part of the story, but like, she's like, Oh, I've been looking for you since that night.

But the thing is, like, it's established in season one that Ted goes to the exact same party every year for like five years waiting for her, and she's like, I've been looking for you for so long. It's like, well, clearly you haven't because he was there the whole time. So like, they just do it to, and it just, it, it ruins the whole thing. And now every time I watch the, like, the first season episode about it, I'm like, well, now it's stupid.

So I'd rather them not revisit it and not try and close the loop.

Ellen

Yeah, okay.

Alice

And just leave it as a, like, mystery. Like not everything has to be closed. It's my rant about How I Met Your Mother while I'm rewatching it. Um, season two, there's a lot of rants coming on in the next couple of weeks. It's alright, next week I'll be like, I just wasted a whole season on a fucking wedding that they got divorced. Anyway, um. Back in 9-1-1.

Ellen

You should ask Chimney, um, and the guy, and the guy you fired the other day. So it wasn't yesterday, it was the other day, uh, we used to call him Sal, which is a nickname. Like, I don't, like, is Sal not his name? They just call him, yeah, right?

Bex

Is it Sal Deluca? So, but

Ellen

it could be Salvador or something like that, I guess. But anyway,

Bex

um, I think Bobby is calling everyone by their surnames. That, that very macho thing. Oh, I think that's probably what they did back in Minnesota. Because it's like, it's Han, Wilson, Kinard, Deluca. Um, but Bobby asks if Hen thinks that he was wrong to fire Deluca. He nearly got them all killed and Hen shoots back, but he didn't. And Bobby says, and that's why I would have given him a second chance, but he didn't want one. Maybe he'll have better luck at the 122.

So Bobby didn't actually fire Sal, he just got him reassigned to a different house. He just didn't tell everybody that.

Alice

Yeah. He came in to make a point. Um, He, like, Sal did get suspended. Oh yeah, for insubordination. Can't let that slide. Um, cause yeah, like, he did do the wrong thing. And he did risk, like, he did, he could have caused a lot of harm to people, and then almost like, then tried to punch his captain. Yeah, so he was suspended and has been moved.

Bex

To the 122. Poor 122. I don't think they deserve him.

Alice

Sorry. Maybe that's where Gerrard is.

Ellen

Um, Hen thinks that, um, he, she says, "listen, we're tomorrow night. Some of us are going out for drinks and you should join us." And Bobby's like, "Oh, I don't know about that. I'm not supposed to be drinking at the moment." And.

Bex

I don't know if it was like a, I don't, like, I don't know because I'm not meant to be drinking or I don't know because I don't want to go and socialize with my team, whether it's trying to keep that sort of distance in the command.

Ellen

It's probably a bit of both, I imagine.

Bex

It's a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. But Hen changes the question and instead of like, "You should join us," she's just like, "Join us." And so he does. We do get a little bit of, um, Chim and Hen and Tommy kind of hanging out before he gets there, though. Um, where they're basically bitching about Bobby behind his back. Saying that Sal might have been a tool, but he was a useful tool and the punishment did not fit the crime.

Tommy's just says, you know, he fired Sal to mark his territory and keep the rest of us in line. And Hen's just sitting back watching them, going, "No, Cap found another spot for him at the 122. His plan was always just to reprimand him, but Sal..." and Chim picks up the thread of conversation and says, "he talked himself out of a job, well, that part at least tracks."

Then he asks the table, "Does anyone know what the hell a mook is?" Which if you're saying that this was one that, um, they've picked up from Gerrard, then they've They would have heard him use it quite a few times. Um, I know it's a good way to get Bobby into this conversation, but I'm surprised that nobody's thought to look it up before now. But yes, Bobby arrives at the table in time to hear Chim ask, what the hell is a mook? And he googled it, so he knows that it means a stupid person.

Alice

Yeah, so he can Google that, but he doesn't know how to Google Maps.

Bex

I'm assuming that he, like, looked up Google on a laptop, maybe he's not so au fait with the smartphones. Like, so he's got his laptop out and, like, finger henpecked, M O O K.

Alice

No, no, he's, he's also, he's at that age, so he would have Googled, what is a mook with a question mark. It took him ten minutes to type it out, but he got there, and it means a stupid person.

Ellen

Yes, he pulls up a chair and joins them at the table.

Bex

In the walkway, can I add, in the walkway, so they're sitting in a booth, and so Bobby pulls up a chair on the, it's one of like circular booths, and Um, so three sides of the table are contained within the booth, and then the fourth side is the walkway area. And that's where Bobby decides that he's going to sit. So he's basically, he's obstructing the flow of traffic. Pretty sure that's a safety hazard.

Ellen

Oh dear.

Bex

But yeah, everybody looks slightly, uh, surprised. They're a little bit suspicious, a little bit awkward about why exactly he is there. Until a waitress comes over, takes Bobby's order, and he says that he's going to buy everybody at the table another round.

Ellen

Mm hmm.

Bex

Chim perks up after that. Chim's about two sheets of the wind. Like, not the full three sheets, but he's, he's had a few.

Ellen

He's on the way, yeah. But he asks for a club, like, he orders a club soda for himself. And, um, no one comments on that, but they just thank him. But, um, yeah. They, they start, they get, get into the drinks, I think, and they start talking about scars. This did crack me up. Having the scars impresses women, but getting them freaks them out. It's like, what the hell are you talking about?

Bex

It's, it's not a, it's not a smooth, smooth segue into this scene. They then start it's like a pissing contest but with scars. They're each showing off their scars trying to

Alice

One up each other.

Bex

Who has the worst scars? So, Hen goes first. She's got a pretty gnarly burn on her shin from a house fire last year. Tommy strips off his shirt,

Alice

literally just takes his shirt off,

Bex

and then he's like pulling at his nipple to sort of stretch his pec. I'm watching him manhandle himself going, do you have to, like, you don't have to be like, You know, groping yourself in order to show off. Um, but they've got a scar.

Ellen

Is this like a real scar?

Bex

No, I don't think so. Although, kudos to the makeup department. They did a really good job on all of their scars. But no, he's got, um, He caught shrapnel in his side from a factory explosion. Um.

Ellen

And then Chim goes, "I am thus far unscarred and I fully intend to remain that way." It's like, well, I've got really bad news for you, Chim.

Alice

He's now had a rebar through the brain and been stabbed.

Bex

And multiple stab wounds. I think he has them beat. Yeah. But then he says that he finds the whole ritual a pale insult to the great Robert Shaw. Um, and I don't know why it took me five rewatches to finally realize that he was actually making yet another pop culture reference and looked up who the hell Robert Shaw was, um, and discovered that he is referencing Jaws.

Yeah. Because Peter Shaw played Quint and there is a scene in Jaws where he, Hooper, and Brody are all drunk showing off their scars to one another. Although it's a little bit more homoerotic than this scene because, you know, Hooper and Quint have kind of got their legs over each other and I think at one point Quint is, like, stroking Hooper's leg.

Ellen

I didn't remember that scene at all from Jaws when you sent me the link to it. I'm like,

Bex

It's been years since I've seen it.

Ellen

I haven't watched it for a long time, but anyway.

Alice

I don't think I've ever seen the full thing.

Bex

I think it's one of those movies that you've seen enough references to it in pop culture that you know enough of it that you feel like you don't need to see the movie.

Alice

Yeah, right? That's it.

Bex

Uh, but then Bobby gets in on the action, um, and shows off a, a scar on the back of his shoulder. And can we please note that he did not need to take off his entire shirt to show them that scar. Tommy.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Um, he has a, a massive scar on the back of his shoulder blade, which was from a four alarm blaze. It was an electrical burn, is the scar, from a live junction box.

Alice

Yeah. At an outlet mall, because Minnesota is famous for their outlet malls, I'm pretty sure.

Ellen

Oh, okay.

Alice

Isn't there, like, a big mall in Minnesota?

Bex

I don't know. If you live in Minnesota, I would like to tell us about your, um, your shopping centres. Um, we'd love to know more about it.

Alice

Yeah, it's the Mall of America is in Minnesota.

Bex

Oh, wow.

Alice

It's, it's literally America's largest shopping mall. Anyway, I'm glad that my fun facts are, in fact, occasionally correct.

Bex

Something about that, that story and that scar kind of, it sets off a train of thought for Bobby and he's gets lost in his own thought while, um, the other three discuss Fight Club. Yeah. Uh, because Tommy references, um, he says, "I don't want to die without any scars." And Jim immediately knows what he's talking about. Hen is completely confused. She has not seen Fight Club. That's not her kind of movie at all.

Um, and then all of a sudden Bobby just stands up and says, "I'm sorry guys, I gotta go. I'll keep the tab open. Y'all enjoy yourselves." And just books it out of the restaurant. Bar. Wherever they are. It looks nice wherever they are.

Ellen

It does look nice, yeah. But he's, he's going to do a bit of snooping.

Bex

Yes, because he ends up back at Guillermo's.

Ellen

Yeah. The, uh, the, the inside's all burned up. But, he gets in, I don't, he just walks in, like I don't think he has to break in or anything, like it's burnt enough that he can just

Bex

I think the entire front window is completely smashed so he could probably step over into the rest of it.

Alice

Yeah, right. There's, there's police tape and he's just like, this would stop me if I could read.

Ellen

He look, he's shining his torch around looking for something in particular, but then he gets blinded by the torchlight and Athena says, "Put your hands in the air." And, um, Bobby recognizes her immediately. I don't know how they've only met once, where he handed her his cock, but, um, "Sergeant Grant, it's just me, Captain Nash. You don't recognize my cock?" No, I She goes, "I know who you are." It's like, wow, you guys really made an impression on each other, right?

Bex

Oh, so many jokes.

Ellen

And he just says, you still upset about the rooster?

Alice

You're

Ellen

still upset about my cock?

Alice

But they've both got hunches.

Ellen

Yeah, they have like a flirty little conversation about, you know.

Bex

His cock?

Ellen

No, but lying in bed having a hunch.

Bex

I was lying in bed trying to sleep and then I started thinking about your cock.

Ellen

She's like, did you have the same hunch?

Alice

And then I told Michael about it and then Michael was also thinking

Bex

no, so Athena was having, uh, lustful thoughts about the sprinkler system at Guillermo's and about how it never, Oh God, no.

Ellen

It never, it never went off?

Bex

I was going to say it never got wet, but.

Ellen

She said it was serviced just last month, but apparently the water valve was actually shut off manually. So she's putting two and two together, but Bobby is, He says these things are typically electrical, but the breaker didn't go off. And he followed the burn patterns, whatever that is, and this is where I found, this is where I found the dad. So, ipso facto, he burnt the place down.

Bex

Yes, because apparently exactly where they found Victor lying on the floor, um, Bobby is able to extract what is left of a nine volt battery that has had steel wool wrapped around the, the heads, the leads, the little things on top of the battery. Um, which is, I don't know. Um, it's not really important because Athena is going to explain to us, um, non arsonists in the audience that it's an improvised incendiary timing device. Oh, um, and.

These two are great because, you know, Bobby can look at people and diagnose them, so can Athena. They can look at this one battery and know exactly what happened.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Their powers are amazing. So they

Ellen

By their powers combined. They've solved this case.

Bex

Oh no. So I'm

Ellen

not gonna make a cock joke.

Bex

I have a Captain Planet theme running through my head.

Ellen

Me too. Um.

Bex

No, sorry, the, the.

Ellen

Bobby goes back to church, thank God, because he clearly needs it. We all do.

Bex

Hang on! Hang on! Hang on! We need, we need to, we need to confirm the theory, which was that Victor set the place on fire. They've decided that he, um, he used this, this battery, whatever it was, to set a fire, um, but then he didn't expect his kid to be in the restaurant, so he raced back in to put the fire out, um, but was unable to when the whole thing just burned down. But they can, they spell it out for everybody else who, who didn't figure it out like 15 minutes ago, that it was arson.

So yes, after all of those, the cock jokes, Bobby goes back to church to, um,

Ellen

to make amends. For confession. Yeah. He says he, he tells the priest that he's a hypocrite.

Bex

I do like that the priest's response is that he says that he is a sinner who wags his finger at other sinners. So welcome to hypocrisy.

Ellen

Yeah. Uh, but Bobby's just says that he pulled the guy out of the fire and he was good. Um, nothing like, you know, nothing evil about him. He just was in over his head. So he burned down the family business for his family, almost got him killed. Thank you for re explaining that to us, Bobby, in such an expositioning way. But, um, you know, he's feeling guilty that he, strings were pulled to get him this job. And he let it happen, but, you know, he, he doesn't deserve this.

Bex

He says that it's, it's the guy who did get his family killed that has to hold the man who almost killed his family accountable. And I'm going, but why do you have to hold him accountable? You're just the captain of one station house. Surely there should be an entire division of the LAPD that deals with arson that should be the one holding him accountable.

Ellen

Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't need to be there with Athena. She's the one who Was there to find the evidence?

Bex

At the very least, yeah, Athena could be holding him accountable. But again, for storyline reasons, Bobby is going to insert himself into this investigation.

Ellen

Bathena's detective agency.

Bex

But yeah, then we get the, um, the information that St. Paul whitewashed his file before they sent it on to LA. Which makes me hope that whatever coals Bobby is being dragged over for lying to the LAFD that somebody has gone back to Phil, and Phil is also being raked over the coals, because Bobby didn't do this alone. Phil was also involved. So I'm hoping that he is also getting an earful from somebody for what he did.

Ellen

This is um, beside the point, but reading this transcript makes a whole lot more sense than, listening to them talk about it because I'd forgotten for a moment there that St. Paul was the city that he came, that he lived in. And so when the priest started talking about St. Paul the man, I was, "the man not the city". He was, and I was just like, the fuck are you talking about? Like,

Alice

Why are we talking about? Saints all of a sudden,

Ellen

I just didn't understand that at all, but now it kind of makes sense. So nevermind. Um,

Bex

I think I always just zone out when the priest starts talking.

Ellen

Yeah, he's not a very compelling character. It's like, I don't care what you've got to say about saints. Like, shut the fuck up.

Bex

Yeah, I think it's just an instinct. Someone starts talking about Christ in the Bible stories, and I'm just

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

But the, I guess the point of the moral of the story of St. Paul was that it's about grace. It's that grace is not something that you earn or that you deserve. Grace is a gift. Bobby is just supposed to accept the grace of having his file whitewashed, of being sent to L. A., of having a brand new start, is something that Bobby needs to accept.

Ellen

Yeah, no matter how much he feels like he doesn't deserve it. But, so unfortunately for Victor, he's feeling a lot better. He's getting discharged from hospital. Um, but as he's about to leave, he gets blindsided by Athena. Yeah.

Bex

Yeah, who does not do this subtly or, you know, take Victor up to the side or, you know, wait until he gets home. Um, she decides to do it in the waiting room in front of his family.

Alice

Yeah, just ambushes him at the hospital in front of all the doctors, the nurses, the patients, his family.

Bex

She's got Bobby on her shoulder.

Alice

Yeah, Bobby's there too. And then there's For some reason.

Ellen

Why is Bobby there?

Bex

I don't know why Bobby is there.

Alice

It's like how, it's like how Buck follows Eddie to the hospital, I don't know, yeah. It's weird, these parallels.

Bex

It's for storyline reasons, but it's just really flimsy storyline reasons.

Ellen

It's because we're in Bobby's point of view in this episode. So he needs to be everywhere so that we are everywhere.

Bex

So basically Athena is there to arrest him for arson and it's quite clear that Victor knows exactly why they're there because he's trying to hurry his family out of the hospital so that they don't witness him getting arrested. Um, but neither his wife nor his son seem at all eager to leave and he has to confess to them. And Athena, and I'm like, dude, just stop talking.

Ellen

Yeah, he does just pour it all out there.

Bex

Yeah. Um, that he did set the fire, that he intentionally set the fire so that he could claim the insurance. And his wife is confused and she's asking like, why would you do that? And Bobby decides that it's his turn to talk. He says that he was thinking of you. He was thinking of both of you. And, Freddy lunges at Bobby, I think he's probably trying to get to Athena, but Bobby gets in the way. Um, screaming that his father is not a criminal.

And, when Bobby tries to calm him down, he said, "No, no, you said everything was gonna be okay, you lied." Like, yes of course he lied, he said the anti magic word I promise. As soon as somebody, as soon as anybody on TV says I promise, you know that whatever they've promised is

Ellen

It's a curse.

Bex

The opposite is gonna happen. Yeah.

Alice

Yep, you know shit's gonna go down.

Bex

So, Freddie is not pissed at his father, um, he's pissed at Bobby. Says that Bobby was supposed to save people. Like, he, he did, he saved your father.

Alice

Yeah. Like, he's going to jail, but at least he's not dead.

Bex

At least he's alive, and at least you are alive, because Bobby was the captain of the fire team that dragged your sorry ass out of the restaurant. Yeah. But with the words you were supposed to save them ringing in his ears, Bobby flees back to church. He honestly, he needs a therapist. The amount of time that he spends talking to this priest.

Ellen

Yeah, I don't know if the priest is particularly helpful either. Um, well, he does encourage him to sort of maybe tell the other people in the team what's going on. Um,

Bex

but then he also says things like, Bobby says, like, the kid called me a liar and the father goes, well, you are a hypocritical liar. Yeah.

Ellen

He says stuff about, he needs to be able to trust them and they need to be able to trust me, blah, blah, blah. And then. The, the priest says to him that "I have faith that God has a different plan for you." And somehow Bobby takes out of that that he needs to bring his team together and be more of a family. I don't know how he comes to that conclusion, we don't get to see that thought process. But he goes and buys a whole heap of food and then brings it, brings it home.

Bex

And pots and pans.

Ellen

Yeah, he, well he, I don't, does he cut, do all his apart, like, cooking in his apartment or does he take it to the 118 itself?

Bex

Looks like he's cooking in his apartment.

Alice

I think he starts in his apartment to, like, practice?

Bex

Yeah, that's what I got, that he was, he was, like, trying to remember how to cook. Yeah, because it had been a while.

Ellen

Yeah, okay. So he's using the skills that he has to bring people together.

Bex

It's a, it's another, it's another sort of, it's a... I like this scene. I like where it gets to, but it's a clumsy segue because the, he's gone to the priest and said, you know, the, the kid called me a liar and that hurt and the, the priest has gone. Yeah, you're a liar. Um, talk to me about your team.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

You know, do they know about your past? Nope. He's gonna, uh.

Alice

Oh, that's okay. I'll cook for them.

Bex

No. Um, so the, he is apparently trying to show the team by cooking for them, um, who he is. But yeah, I don't really understand the um, how that plan fits in with Bobby's other plan of save 148 people and then kill myself.

Ellen

I don't know, I don't, I don't care, because what comes out of the end of this is

Bex

Yes, like I said, it's clumsy, it's awkward, it doesn't make sense, but it's still, it's a good little montagey scene and we get to a good spot.

Ellen

Yeah, by the end he's set, he's cooked a bunch of food. He's set the table, like all, like two tables in the station, in the kitchen, in the station house.

Bex

Yeah, because apparently at the beginning everybody gets to eat.

Ellen

Yeah, it's not just the 118 who's eating this time.

Bex

It's not just the A shift, everybody gets to eat.

Ellen

All of the 118 are eating. And now they're all going to have food together in each shift, and Hen christens it family dinner.

Bex

But they're not a family.

Ellen

Not yet.

Bex

So there's We get the new and improved Bobby in LA montage where we see him going to his AA meetings and actually participating in the meetings. Um, we see him working on scenes, being in charge, we see him teaching Hen how to cook or Hen's participating with cooking family dinner. We see them, we see him join in when the 118 throw a surprise Bon Voyage party for Tommy, who is relocating to the 217.

Alice

Yeah!

Bex

And that ties in nicely to the little scene that we had in "Broken", where Chim calls Tommy at the 217. Yeah, yeah. So we've finally kind of closed that loop.

Ellen

And they give him a cake, um, I don't, I, who is, is Henn responsible for cakes in this place? Because the cake says

Alice

I think Henn is literally chief of the, the cake committee.

Ellen

She's got like Such a weird sense of humor because the cake says the 217's loss is our gain.

Bex

Does it say that, or did I just write it down wrong?

Ellen

No, that's what it says.

Alice

That

Bex

is what it says. Literally what it says?

Ellen

Cause I remember looking at it going like,

Alice

sucks to be the 217.

Ellen

Did

Alice

that just say what I thought it said? And I had to rewind back.

Bex

But then, She was sitting in the ambulance because she and Chim were hiding in the back of the ambulance and when Tommy opened the doors that she and Chim pop out with balloons and then she literally body slams Tommy into the cake and then, and then holds him down in it for a couple of seconds.

Alice

She's like, finally we don't have to work together ever again. I can smash this racist, racist face into a cake.

Bex

She is working out years of pent up aggression with a cake smash, and I'm sort of looking at him going down the cake going, Hen, you gonna let him breathe at any point?

Ellen

It's okay, she's a paramedic, she'll bring him back.

Bex

She can kill him and then bring him back? Yeah, okay. Um,

Alice

sorry. Just imagining the incident report, yeah, so we had to um, revive a Firefighter. Uh, he drowned in cake.

Bex

Asphyxiated on, uh, buttercream frosting.

Alice

Uh, witnesses will say he tripped and fell, tripped, tripped and fell. Um, Henrietta Wilson was upstairs at the time, uh, washing her hands. Definitely not in the ambulance, uh, shoving his head in. Um, Nope.

Bex

But Next, we, uh, we get to a nice little, or speaking of sort of closing the loop scenes.

Ellen

Well, it really was their gain though, in the end, because

Bex

Yes, because losing Tommy means that they had an empty spot in the 118. So, they're all sitting having family dinner when a familiar figure starts bouncing up the stairs and coming around to the table and heads over to Bobby. And introduces himself as Evan Buckley, the new recruit.

Alice

It's Baby Buck!

Ellen

Baby Buck, yay!

Bex

He's so baby! He's very baby. He says to Bobby that he was told to report to Captain Nash. And I hate Bobby in this moment, because Bobby looks at him. That's so mean. And then he looks around the table and he goes, "Captain Nash. Do you know Captain Nash? Does anyone know Captain Nash?" And you can just see Buck dying inside.

Alice

Poor baby Buck. You can just see him. I'm at the wrong place. Am I at the wrong place?

Bex

Is it the wrong time? Did they change? Did I not pass? And then finally, finally. Finally, Bobby turns

Alice

Oh my god, it was the 119 I was supposed to go to?

Bex

Bobby turns back to him and pushes out the chair and says, take a seat, Evan. And um, Chim starts loading up a plate for him of pasta and Buck's just like, literally clutching at his pearls like, oh my god, thank god for that.

Alice

And then it's so cute because he's like, "Buck, Buck, everyone just calls me Buck." Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. Um, then he's like, "this is amazing. Is it always like this?" Uh, cause like, there's just food everywhere.

Bex

And he's just been handed a plate full of pasta.

Alice

Yeah. And Hen says, it's always like that. And Chim corrects, well, when Bobby's in the captain chair.

Ellen

Yeah I was gonna say, if only you knew what they'd gone through to get to this point.

Alice

Yes. And Buck says he thinks he might be in the right place. And it's just so cute. And it's interesting. So Buck literally, Like, directly replace Tommy. Yes. Which is interesting, because soon Eddie will be, what? Um, and then we cut to today, so we catch up back to present time.

Bex

And it's such a, an abrupt cut, because we've gone from everyone sitting in the loft kitchen having lunch, they're laughing, it's great, and then the next cut we get of the station house is. It's silent and it's empty, except for Bobby.

Ellen

And dark and grey, Yeah,

Bex

even the lighting changes. It turns out that it must be sort of early in the morning. Bobby is sitting at the long table in his civilian clothes and the rest of the 118 come upstairs in their duty uniforms and Chim's all like, "Oh hey Cap, why are you up here in your civilian clothes and why am I not smelling my breakfast?" And so Bobby has to break the news to them, like right before their shift starts, that he has been officially suspended from his duties of the 118.

Because of the failure to disclose what had happened in Minnesota and Buck is just like "What? That that's insane Why are you suspended? The the Minnesota stuff is old news," and Bobby said

Alice

daddy why

Bex

Bobby Bobby's very patient going "Well, it's it's old news to you But it's new news to them and if they had known if there's a very good chance that they would not have hired me as captain." And they're all, every one of the 118, very supportive. They're like Hen's saying that. He doesn't owe them that part of him. They don't. He doesn't owe anyone his history. He just owes them the record of who he's been while he's been in Los Angeles.

Um, and it's funny that they're all being very supportive, including Eddie, but I have no idea if Eddie knows what the hell is going on. I don't know if anybody has told Eddie what has happened with Bobby.

Ellen

It's a really weird dialogue too, because it's like they all have just one line. They're like, you, you, your record. Buck's like, "The people you've helped," and then Eddie pipes up, he's like, "The lives you've saved," and I'm like, wow, he's like, Ryan's got like one line, one line of dialogue in this episode.

Alice

Um, yeah, Eddie, who's literally hired to stand around and look pretty. It's just like, "guys, where's Minnesota? What's, what's, what's a Minnesota? Yeah. Are we, Is it a type of drink? What, what are we talking about?"

Bex

But no, but seriously, did anybody sit him down and give him, like, the lore of the 118?

Alice

I'm sure Hen would've at some point, maybe. If not Hen, then it would've been Buck.

Ellen

It's probably Buck. He never shuts up at the best of times.

Alice

It's probably Buck. He doesn't stop yapping.

Ellen

He would have just told him at some point.

Alice

They were driving back to Christopher's school on the second day and Eddie's worried about his kid and Buck's just like, "Oh my God, yeah. So there was this guy called Gerrard and he was awful. And now like Bobby's in charge, but Bobby like killed his entire family."

Bex

Buck had never met Gerrard.

Alice

No, but he would have been told by Hen.

Bex

Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe.

Alice

Buck just knows all the lore. It's fine. Um, yeah. "And, and, and one time, Chim got a rebar through his head" and Eddie's like, "Can you just drive the fucking car? I don't even know why you're here. We're going to my kid's school. What is happening?"

Bex

Regardless of whether Eddie knows what's going on or not, he's very,

Alice

he's being very supportive. It's very supportive of his father in law.

Bex

And Bobby is all like, it, it doesn't matter that you guys are supportive. It doesn't matter that, um, He knew that the truth would catch up to him one day. He just, he says, I just figured that by the time that it did, it wouldn't matter that he would have nothing left to lose because he assumed that he'd be like up to number 135 on his list and it's like five more people. And then I'm, you know, not long for this world.

So, um, but unfortunately he, you know, He created a new family at the 118 and, um, he was happy and then he threw his little book away and he got a fiancé and now it's all about to be taken away from him.

Ellen

Now he's getting dragged to the empty.

Bex

And then we move back to the beginning of the episode where he is sitting in that chair in the middle of the cement, the cinder block room, Where he is apparently facing a panel who is going to make a recommendation as to whether or not he should remain a member of the LAFD and the the panelists Making sure that Bobby understands that he's entitled to have a union rep or a lawyer with him that it's not a criminal proceeding He says that he understands.

He just wants to tell the truth So that was present day Bobby that we saw at the beginning of the episode.

Ellen

Yeah. So not only did we start the episode on a cliff, like trying to resolve a cliff hanger, but we were in exactly the same place at the end. But we know a lot more backstory now.

Bex

We made no progress forward.

Alice

No. It's like "Chim Begins". Chim's still bleeding out.

Ellen

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bex

So Bobby's been sitting in that chair for 45 minutes.

Ellen

At least I haven't been on holidays in the meantime, so it hasn't been that long for him. But, yes, we're still stuck in limbo without knowing what's happened.

Bex

But yeah, that's how the episode ends.

Ellen

Yeah.

Bex

Yeah. So we still know nothing.

Ellen

I don't know. It wasn't like, uh, there were parts of this episode that were very lighthearted and fun. Like, it's like, it's like we say this every week, like they do always have like kind of heavy stuff interspersed with much lighthearted. And I came out of the watching this episode feeling a lot happier than when I went into it, as I said at the beginning, um, still very heavy kind of subject material, but, Yeah.

Um, my prediction for the future is that the, um, family that he's created will come to his defense and I haven't watched the next episode yet. So I might just be speaking complete bullshit, but he's got a lot of people now who know him well and can back him up. So I don't have any doubts about our Bobby. Also because I know he's still around like seven seasons later, but yeah,

Bex

interesting.

Alice

No, this is it. He gets fired and he doesn't come back. I don't know who you and then his twin brother comes.

Bex

They just hired another, another white cis man.

Alice

Um, no, no, identical twin. It's still Peter Krause and they look exactly the same. His name is also Bobby because all the men in his family are just called Bobby. Like even Bobby's son is Bobby.

Ellen

Yes. Uh, well, I mean, we've, we've got two, two episodes to go. Yeah, we've only got 18 in the whole season. Two episodes to go. So two episodes to go.

Alice

Two episodes left.

Ellen

So, before we finish the season, we need you guys, the listeners, to send us your feedback on season two. Tell us what you loved about this season. or you didn't like? Who's your favorite character? Your favorite storyline? Tell us all about that stuff. Um,

Alice

get ready to hear Ellen's predictions about what happens in season three.

Ellen

Okay. So we need to know, I think this episode will be going out at the beginning of November, but we need all of the feedback in by the 15th of November, which is a Friday. So that will be Thursday for the Americans and probably. Some of Europe, I don't know. Um, that would be the 15th of November in Australia, um, is when we're going to be, when we are looking at recording our wrap up episode. So we'll need all of your feedback by then, please.

And in the meantime, you can also tell us what you thought of this episode. Um, and, You know, or like I say this every time, all the ways you can get in touch with us, you can send us DMS on social media. Um, we are thatweewooshow at all of those. We can email us contact at thatweewooshow. com. You can find all of that other details on our website, which is just thatweewooshow. com. What is coming up next week? The penultimate episode of the season.

Bex

Next week we have "Be Careful What You Wish For". And Athena gets her detective on and investigates, um, a series of mail bomb explosions. Uh, while she's doing that, the first responders deal with a calamity at a chocolate factory. Meanwhile, Eddie receives some surprising news from Shannon, Maddie contemplates her future at the call center, and tragedy strikes the 118.

Ellen

Uh oh.

Bex

Uh oh. Um, triggers for next week's episode, we have car accident, we have minor character death, we have mental illness and discussion of suicide, um, we have, um, package bombs and injuries caused by package bombs and suicide attempt via jumping.

Alice

It's always hard doing like the bridge episodes. Um, because it's a good episode, but like it's part of, it's almost like a three parter finale.

Ellen

Yeah, and also I think part of the reason why this episode is difficult to kind of talk about in some ways is that we've already had a Bobby Origin episode. This is like just a continuation of his, you know, origin story. So I guess, yeah, it's great to hear about more of his backstory, but we already know a lot of it already.

Bex

Yeah, it doesn't bring anything really doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Ellen

No, I mean it just closed the gap on What happened with Sal and Tommy like while that why they're not there anymore

Bex

But we didn't really need to know that information No, because we were we'd survived an entire season of without Sal and Tommy I certainly was not being kept up late at night wondering why Tommy suddenly wasn't at the 118 After I, after we first met him in Hen Begins?

Ellen

Unfortunately for Tommy and Sal, they're both quite forgettable characters, generally speaking. So.

Bex

If only.

Ellen

So far.

Bex

If only people forgot about them a little bit more.

Alice

They just keep coming back.

Bex

To be fair, I don't think we've ever seen Sal again. Although, having said that, somewhere in a writer's room, somewhere, someone's gone, Hey, do you remember that guy from like season two? No, no, the other one from season two.

Alice

Eddie? No, the one that's only in season,

Ellen

all right.

Bex

But I do. Yeah.

Ellen

You do?

Bex

Yeah. Um, No, I don't.

Ellen

Okay.

Alice

Fair.

Bex

I will save whatever thought I was trying to come up with for. Not next week, the week after. Okay. Yeah, I think that'll be a good place for it. Okay.

Ellen

Ooh, I'm interested in what's coming now. Um, I'll find out sooner or later. I may just watch the next two episodes back to back so that I finish the season.

Bex

I think you might need to.

Ellen

Okay, more cliffhangers?

Alice

Yeah, just do them back to back.

Ellen

Okay. All right.

Alice

That's what I'm planning on doing.

Ellen

Yeah. You can contact us in all of the ways that they're all listed on the website and just come and yell at us about, oh yeah, don't forget to yell at Bex and Alice about season eight, because. They need to hear all about the, all the, all of the yelling about what's going on. But don't tell me.

Alice

So much yelling about Season 8.

Ellen

Okay, don't tell me. I'm trying to stay spoiler free. Doing an okay job of spoiler free at the moment, but you know, trying to stay

Alice

Yeah, poor Ellen, like, cannot go near my Twitter anymore. No. Um, because it is all just spoilers.

Ellen

It kind of sucks because I really want to interact more with the 9-1-1 accounts and I can't because I'm just going to see stuff that I don't want to see.

Alice

Yeah, none of us are subtle about spoilers.

Bex

No.

Ellen

That's okay. Alright, well, we'll wrap it up there then. Thank you all for listening. And we will see you next week to talk about episode 17, "Be Careful What You Wish For". See you then.

Bex

Bye!

Alice

Bye!

Ellen

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Bex

I do like that the priest's response is that he's a sinner who wags his finnet. He's a sinner who wags his finner. Shush, you're a He says that he is a sinner who wags his fingers at other sinners as Oh my god, no. No, I'm going to do it this time. Shush. Uh, he says that he is a sinner who wags his finger at other sinners. So, welcome to hypocrisy.

Ellen

Yeah.

Alice

Hang on, I'm just going to throw the dogs outside.

Ellen

Just chuck them out.

Alice

Oh, they're I don't know what they're What?! What? What? What? She's heard something out there. I have no idea what's out there, but apparently it's good. So she's running to the door, barking at it, and then running to me and barking at me, and then running back to the door.

Bex

Oh, she wants you to go outside.

Alice

She's like, Mum, come look! Mum!

Bex

They sit down at the table. Oh, shit.

Alice

Hang on. We've lost Beck.

Ellen

Oh no, the internet. Okay. I guess we can catch up. Hopefully it won't take too long to come back again. Uh, okay. So there are, they sit down to blerg, they sit down to dinner.

Alice

Maybe we should just wait.

Ellen

We're struggling without you, come back! Oh, this scene was so sad too.

Alice

This scene really confused me. Like mum was like, when is this? And I'm like, I don't fucking know, mum. Yeah. Yeah, I can't believe she wrote notes for us again, like a, some sort of saviour person. I don't know. I'm not very good at bitching about Bex.

Ellen

Are you back?

Bex

I told you guys to keep going.

Alice

Oh, no, we tried.

Ellen

We tried to keep going, but it just didn't work.

Alice

Ellen forgot how to speak English, so we just decided to wait.

Ellen

And then we figured we'd probably better wait.

Alice

We tried so hard.

Bex

I've got notes there!

Ellen

I know.

Alice

No, no, it was literally just Ellen forgot to speak, how to speak English.

Ellen

I was like, uh, can't speak anymore. Anyway, now, now with Bex is back, we can continue. Um,

Bex

How far did you get before you, um,

Ellen

Oh, no, not far at all.

Alice

Literally the line after! She was like, we're a family, bleh bleh dinner

Ellen

and then I was like, that's it. I can't speak until people come back.

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