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You know, I keep thinking, like Drew Barrymore, you couldn't have waited two weeks, I.
Know, and now you have this like stain on you.
Now people will forget it in a minute, like it doesn't matter, but it is just like you couldn't have waited a couple weeks.
Well, it's so funny to me too. It's like this is a big part of our lives and we live in la like we hear about a day in and day out. And then we went to go see some of your family when we were in Atlanta, and they were like, so, what's happening, Like they just didn't know anything about the strikes at all. We were like, well, it's about this, and you know, it's just uh funny that for a lot of people, it really just like
hasn't even registered though the auto unions are striking. I think right now, unions and strikes and you know, trying to get corporations to be held accountable is a hot thing right now.
I heard the flight attendants, Oh.
My gosh, and you think it's about the lounges.
Do you think it's because of the Delta lodges?
No?
But I just looked it up and unfortunately, American Airlines flight attendant sixty six found dead with sock in her mouth in a hotel room ten hours ago.
What and this isn't out?
Yeah, an our colleague of flight attendant found dead in Philly. I didn't realize, oh my god, what the fuck. I thought I was just gonna look at the strike and now there's all these dead flight attendants.
Wait, that's like scary because I guess they like travel alone. No, Like, whenever I see flight attendants going to a hotel after their flight, they're always with a bunch of other ones.
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In Philadelphia, she was found two days after she was supposed to check out, which is even weirder.
Yeah, you guys are supposed to don't usually check like a couple hours after you're supposed to check out.
Yeah, she was found by cleaning stuff at like the airport Marriotte. No signs of forced entry or struggle, no weapons. This is live reporting right now if I've ever seen.
It, this is an SVU episode unfolding. It's going to end up that the most powerful flight attendant in New York City is behind it. They're fighting. Did you be the Supreme?
Did you ever watch the movie View from the Top. It's Gwyneth Paltrow and Christina Applegate and it's a competitive flight attendant.
No, I never saw that.
No, I did, I did, I did.
I said a few times no, But I'm made public, thank god. But the death is considered suspicious and there will be an investigation.
Yeah, I would say anytime there's a sock in the mouth, it's suspicious. I would definitely throw that into the suspicious cat column.
Yes, that is true.
Anyway, maybe that now's a good time to talk about all the travel that we're doing coming up. Guys, we are.
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This episode comes out on October tenth, which means we will just have been to Buffalo. It means tonight we are at the space Ballroom in New Haven, New Haven, Hartford. I'm a hometown girl. Please do not make me look stupid and not have enough people at.
Our space Ballroom show. Please come see us.
Apparently the venue is really cool. I'm excited to go there. Some of my high school friends will be there. They'll probably tell you embarrassing stories about me. Come on, then, We're in Burlington this Thursday on the twelfth, and the next week Cleveland, Ohio on the eighteenth. Boston on the nineteenth. You guys are showing up with the tickets. Thank you so much, Boston. Keep telling friends and spreading the word.
The wilbur is a huge moment for us and we really would love to have as many people there as possible. Then the rest of October is Toronto on the twenty fourth, to Troy on the twenty fifth, and Pittsburgh on the twenty sixth. And then don't forget Salt Lake City and our whole Midwest run happening in November. One last thing about the tour, the New York Show tickets. I know it's in December, and you guys are all like, what if I have a holiday party. The tickets are going fast.
They're a low ticket alert for New York Show, So hop on there and get those babies. And that's it. Go to Thats Messed Up live dot com for all the info, also at the link in our Instagram bio. And that's enough of me selling you guys coming to see us. What else is going on, Lisa, we went to Vegas.
Well I'm just announcing, well I have some tour dates, so check it out on glitter Cheese. But also I'm just announcing I'm gonna be doing an hour in La on November two a pipewriter, So come on down to that.
Yeah, bu la la, bu la la. Indeed that'd be really cool.
But yes, we were in Vegas. We were in Vegas and I haven't recovered still. I fully got so sick there. I'm it's bit I haven't been well. I also won't stop smoking weed. That probably doesn't help it. But Vegas was fun.
It was so fun. We had a great day in a cabana. Lisa organized a lot of it. It was so amazing.
It was like the best birthday. I never do anything big for my birthday, and I had a great time.
I just feel at the pool, like that area when we were going from the pool to the wave pool, I don't think I'd ever laughed that hard. Like I was just really enjoying myself because when we got the four there was four of us at that moment, and when we got into the pool, these old men next to us went they look like trouble, and we did.
And then when they started talking to us, and we just kept walking, but we were walking in the water, so we're like slow moving away from them. They're like, where are you from. We're like, LA, have a great night, guys, Like we just.
Kept walking away from them slowly.
It was so funny.
Because Li's only had a man with two sons out of the hot tub.
Our hotel had like two or three pools leading to the wavepool, and Lisa go, should we just walk through all the pools like lizard people? And I was like, that's a great idea. So we lizard peopled our way through three pools to get to this wavepool. Then we get to the wavepool and our friend that's with us is like, I don't know, I don't want to say wave pool aficionado, but she's like huge into wave pools, and she's like and basically it's like a pretty tame
wave pool. Like I almost drowned at the Action Park wave pool shout out to anyone that remembers Action Park in New Jersey aka Traction Park. And so I was expecting like torrential like huge waves that were going to like knock me on my butt, and they're very chill because it's Vegas, like people don't really actually want to fight for their lives. And our friend swims up to this lifeguard a on a like longboard and is like, hey, when did the waves start? And he's like, they're on.
It's one wave every ninety seconds, and it was so funny. She was so disappointed.
Well, we couldn't even like you and then the shallow you had to stand straight up like there was just I don't want to drown because I didn't even want to go into a wave pool because I do have really scary memories from childhood. But I was ready. We got ready, We got goggles, we putt we clipped it. We were just really prepped to go into a real wave pool, like we were going to fight in Sparta, right. We were three hundred and then it was barely away.
I mean it was the equivalent of like a gust of wind every ninety seconds, like blowing the water a little bit, like it would lift you up a tiny bit. But then yeah, once you got washed into the shallow end, you couldn't sit there like the way you sit on the beach and kind of just let like the ends of the waves like fall over you. They're like stand up straight like all these teens telling us what to do, so.
But full braces.
But I also the reason we had to walk through the pools is because we had a drink.
We can't bring drinks. This is my thing too.
The rules and the wave pool are so strict without the wave and that.
Yeah, a lot of rules for very little action.
Yeah, like that's what was like, I can't have a high noon in here.
But I also I ordered like a thirty ounce that Lie made That was really fun. Oh it'sy, it was delicious. It was just really funny. But then yeah, I think I got pretty drunk.
Yeah, it was a fun.
It was.
It was wild too, because we wanted to maximize our time at the pool, so we didn't really nap before we went to dinner, and then we went to Drag Race Live and then Liza and I were last men standing gambling at like you know, late hours. So it was but it was so fun.
But I learned. I learned about roulette.
So like in my head, I was doing one hundred at a time and then kind of building up but then losing it. Yeah, next time I go in, I'm putting like four hundred in right away and then splashing, and then I think that's the only way to win big or win at all. I just think one hundred at a time was a mistake for me, and I should have just like, yeah, I fully committed.
I agree because I think the guys that we see doing well are doing what you're talking about because they started with so much and then they just splash their chips around the center and like you usually hit, but then it's just I just kept hitting a bunch of like zero or whatever, and I was like, oh my god, because I never met on zero or double zero, so.
I did lose my money.
I just love hold them, but like it's so intimidating in the poker rooms and the tournaments, and like I just don't get why hold them can't have a table, Like I'm confused by that.
But yeah, well you played some kind of hold them at the very first place and you did well.
Well, it was called Ultimate hold Them, and it wasn't It was like there was more. There was weirdness. Yeah, there was like a lot of like if you wanted a bet, prefly, like you had to put in three times the minimum bets. Like things were just wild at the Ultimate table. But I did work with an incredible woman, shout out to her.
But the first and but the first night.
In Vegas was confusing to me because it seems like everyone is just walking around looking for fun. Yeah, that will never hit them, you know, like it's fun to go for an event or have something to do. But like Friday night was this thing of like if you're not clubbing or doing like heinous crimes. Like it was just all these It felt like the movie Swingers in
a way. It was just like everyone like drinking and looking around, yeah, waiting for something to hit, like, you know, sitting in their little tables, being like what's around here now?
It was and you always like you see groups like trying to link up. I mean, a guy was trying to talk to me a lot at the table and then I slowly watched him lose two thousand dollars and then he kind of just slinked away, and I was like, I bet you don't care where I live now, Like he asked me what I do for a living, and I pretended I didn't hear him. But we had a time. And also we saw a couple of listeners, Hello to you guys.
That was that's where I lost my voice. The Drag Race is when it all went.
Oh yeah, health at least we saw Drag Race live. For those of you that know about our drag obsession, we saw. The cast was bosco hosted by Asia O'Hara, who was amazing and does about seventy five outfit changes with wigs that are impeccable. Bosco was in the cast, Kennedy fucking Davenport, Alexis Matteo, one of my faves, Cocoa Montrees and Pangina Heels, who I didn't know about, the winner of drag Race, Thailand and China. No no, Pangina Heels on China is from the One, Yeah and from All Stars.
They really have to that is too tough for me.
On Jina, Pangina, a Raja and a Raja, I don't think, you know, like you.
Know that there should be coffy raimes.
But it was amazing, like it's it's fun, Like I got to see the little numbers that that they worked on when I worked on the show were like these three original numbers that are in the show.
And then all the.
Queens got to do like their own big sort of show stopper, and Cocoa Montrees fucking pulled it out. She did like a whole Janet Jackson thing that I did not expect, and she was, you know, she's a Vegas showgirl, so they really brought.
A Vegas show girl.
The only thing that is so rue, Paul is they like the screams are advertising something every ten minutes I would.
Say, yeah, yeah.
Like like by the app, by the bucks, watch this International, go to the merchstre.
Buy House of Love cocktails, buy House of Love mocktails.
Like so many, so many advertisements.
It was. It was crazy, it was.
And I loved all the casinos. I definitely want to go to Vegas again. I think Vegas needs, you need to have a central point, like there needs to be an event. Yeah, I guess so. I think there needs to be a concert. I think there needs to be an event that you're going to to make Vegas make sense.
Oh, like one show like Drag Race Live. You mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Yeah, totally.
I like TV a lean or a thing like or unless you're truly like into gambling so much. But I feel like Vegas to me seems like the best when there's an event to go to.
I have to say, I feel like every time I have gone, I have been going to see like one thing like I saw Pink, I saw cher like I'm usually going to see something.
I guess that makes sense. But the Lazy River, Yeah, we just had fun. We were laughing. We like shoved a kid in his inner tube against a wall to make sure Kara's hair didn't get wet, and the waterfall because of her blowout, and like truly we were like injuring children trying to keep our hair dry.
The Lazy River was something I never could have imagined. Like my friend goes, oh, yeah, you could just get in, and like I go and.
Like, what just float like a dead body?
I was like, I don't think so, and so I went in once with an inner tube, and then when we went in a second time, I did do it dead body style, and wow, what a thrill. I was wrong and I stand corrected. The current was fast, like my body was floating down that river. I mean, I feel like this is all related to SVU bodies floating in rivers. But wow, a really fun time. A lot of wild cab drivers and I just had. I had the best time. I like already thinking about how I want to go back.
I know, I'm like, who's performing?
I know, I know I would go see.
I would go see Adele. I feel like it'd be fun to see it.
She's done. Maybe this was it, yeah, but you never know.
All kinds of shit is there. I think Miley should do Vegas. I'm hoping for a Miley Vegas eventually, because her big thing is she doesn't want to tour, like, yeah, she doesn't want to pack on a bus and change in a locker room, like she doesn't want that life.
But I feel like Vegas is the thing to do.
And I think Deba is only doing weekends. It's like, you don't have to be there seven days a week, you know, no.
I exactly.
I think you could be in Malibu, hang out with your nature, and then fucking fly in baby.
I was reading, first of all, will be done in a second, but I was reading about, first of all, I hate that Courtney Kardashian's company is called Poushe. I like hate that word. It like gives me full body shivers. I don't know what it means, but I don't like it. And she had like a big party in Malibu, and I guess it was like against all these Malibu rules.
And this is becoming an increasing problem in Malibu where celebrities just have these massive parties and it like blocks up traffic and everybody, like Malibu doesn't know what to do about it. So I wonder if mit Ley's been affected.
Interesting, wait, hold odd, So they just had a party and break all the rules.
Yeah, I think they have, Like they have these massive parties and like just probably capacity is like huge, and then they like the entertainment.
The mayor accuses Courtney Kardashian a fraud.
Yeah, like that's it. I think they like lie about what it is, Like they fake permits, Like they get permits for one thing and then that's not what they have.
Damn. Yeah, that is wild.
I forgot if this is real or not, or in a different country, but that, like tickets and stuff, you pay what's comparable to your to your worth. So like because rich people will just get tons of tickets and parking tickets and it doesn't matter to them because what's one hundred dollars to them five hundred dollars. So like, if you're a super rich person and you get pulled over, your ticket's going to be for two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. Really, it's like comparable. Yeah, I don't know if I made this up or if it's in a country or a city.
Casey, you look it up. This is somewhere out side of America, Yeah of course. Oh yeah, I feel like it's like Switzerland. I bet it's one of the dordicks.
It's you know, deadmark or something interesting or or I just write a thing of how it should be. But that's how it should because rich people just don't care. They'll keep paying the red light tickets or like the parking tickets, the street cleaning. It doesn't matter to them. And so hopefully if you are that rich, you have a garage. But anyway, they they'll just speed it as
a matter. So if you make the ticket pricing actually hurt, maybe they'll follow the fucking rule case he's leading in what's the scoop.
Finland, Liza's former hometown, aggressive punishment when it comes to speeding tickets.
Uh, the amount depends on your monthly income.
Wow, you're right on.
Yeah, I think that's awesome.
Like that's how it should be because like, what does Coordinay Kardashian care about violating permits? They could they could probably find her tenth dollars and she wouldn't give a shit. Yeah, she needs to be fined a million dollars and then maybe she won't do shit like this. But also, fuck that rich ass community. It's like Palm Springs, you know, they have all these rules lights can't be out, don't turn on music.
You know.
It's like, also fuck the rich people that are like so annoyed by the noise.
But yeah, you can't like talk loudly outside in Palm Springs after ten o'clock. It's really crazy.
Oh there's also no street lamps. You have to walk around with like a lamp on your head.
All right, should we get started with today's episode.
I did have one other funny thing that happened in Vegas. I was talking to a friend there and I was talking about doing Molly and I was like, oh, yeah, I used to do like Molly off my hands at the bathroom at Cole's. And she goes, oh, I used to steal from Coals And I go, what the fuck did you take from there? And she goes, I don't know, lift glosses, And I went, oh, me in the store. I mean my friend Cole his bar holds the bar. So she thought I was doing Molly at Cole's department
store and that was like my thing. And I was like, how dare you steal from a local bar, you fucking psycho?
Like what did you take? And then so I really liked those giggles.
I've been to both coles, and I would say they're both great places to lick Molly off your fingers.
Okay.
Also, I did not bring my laptop and the TV wasn't working, and that was hard for me to sleep even though I was fucked up.
Oh, I thought you went out pretty quick.
No, I had podcasts in my ears and I was waking up to voices of our friends.
Like it was.
It was twisted. No, I fell asleep with things in my ears.
Oh wow, I lost my EarPods.
Kill me. All right, let's get started. We've got a great episode for you guys today as usual.
All Right, Episode one of season thirteen.
Yeah, season premiere, and it's the first season premiere after Christopher Maloney leaves departed. Yeah, after shooting a teen in the precinct. Everyone needs a break after that, so we're Yeah. In the beginning, we see a man and he's tying a Paisley orange tie. He's really tan, he has facial
hair in a hotel. And then we see a hotel maid and she's so crying and distressed, and then another hotel maid runs to her, and then we cut to the man that we're assuming is the reason this hotel maid is crying and in distress, and.
He's cheers in to a future grandchild.
He's on a rooftop bar in Manhattan and there's a pregnant woman.
There's a lot of so like why is this man going? May he be a boy?
What is this?
Like?
Nineteen? Like? Oh one?
Like why how about a healthy baby?
Yeah?
I honestly anyone that does that, I'm against them one hundred percent.
It's so fucked up. I hate it. So the manager calls the police.
Craigan answers the phone call and gives orders right away, so munch in Finn they go to the Park Milano hotel where the maid was assaulted in the presidential suite, and then quickly he says, live, sorry about your weekend, but you got to go to Bellevue and check on the VIC. So she's off to Bellevue and the guys are off to the hotel and the suspect we find out is Roberto Distassio.
Did I say that.
Right, Kara?
Yeah, a nice Italian flair, and he is he's important, he's next in line to becoming the Italian prime minister.
And can I just say one quick thing? Yeah, So they say he's basically next in line behind Berlusconi. Who Berlusconi was the Prime Minister of Italy for a long time, and he was the prime Minister of Italy when I lived there. He like we think Donald Trump is a joke, like Berlusconi is a joke with like capital letters. When I was living there, he disappeared for six weeks. No one knew where he was. When he came back, he had a full facelift. Wait, wait, he is the wildest.
So who was in charge of Italy when he was gone?
I don't know, like the vice prime minister.
I don't know what their situation is, but like just like there's such a tabloid culture and like they always know where he is, and like just nobody knew where he was for like six weeks and he came back and his face was fucking tight as hell and it was insane.
And also he owns like this media company.
That basically it would be like if our president owned NBCABC ANDCBS, Like there's one other channel like Fox that he doesn't own, but he owns three of the major major channels in Italy.
And how did the people in Italy feel about him?
I mean from what I thought, I talking to my friends mostly he was like a joke. But I think that like right wing people like him. Okay, you know, so it just I just thought it'd be like an interesting little tidbit that he is like a hilarious, ridiculous politician.
So it doesn't say.
Much that he's gonna be he's next in line crown like it's not.
But still it conveys the power of how much how powerful this guy is for sure.
So so he's he's in the car and he's chatting with his driver. He realizes he left his laptop at the hotel. He calls the hotel. And because of this tidbit, because he calls the hotel, the squad and everyone knows that he's off to JFK and they know his location, so we know he's heading to JFK. And but no, drum roll, it's Amanda Dollins first episode.
And she is laying on her accent accents so hard, so hard. She is ready to work.
Maybe she's holding a box and she gives she like gives it to another officer and she goes stash that for me, Hun, will you like truly off the fucking country boat? And you know, ready to hit the pavement. So her and Craig get like, she's excited to get to work. This man takes this box from her. We're at the hospital and the victim is Anika Nanni Rose and that's the actress's name, and she is the voice of Tiana and the Princess of the Frog, so a
different type of role. But and I'm sure she's done lots of other work, but she's a fucking Disney princess that's pretty huge. And so her name is Miriam and she's explaining what happened to her, and it's pretty detailed. But he was in a robe from the spa. He locked the door behind him, pushed her onto the bed, held her arms back, you know, just pretty fucked up. But she scratched him, and she but he pushed her down again and then how do I even say this?
Whatever?
So he forced her to give him oral sex basically, yeah, he he forced he like penetrated her orally.
Yeah, And then she spit it out, and I guess he laughed and said, this is the difference between life and love. And I don't know, is it that that's a very Italian thing to say after a raping like.
And love, like and love. What did I say life? That's the that's Google docs problem.
That is not me.
I guess what he's saying is that if you love someone, you swallow or something.
That's exactly what he's saying.
Oh god, Oh he's.
A fucking creepy has fake self tanner on.
I guess I've never been in love with anyone.
So then Benson, like the amazing detective she is, asks where did you where did you spit it out? And then we're back on the scene at the hotel and Rollin's helpful off the bat, we are shown that she is fucking good at her there was like she found some blood and she put a coin down for scale and she's there.
So then wet.
There's a lot of cuts and we haven't even gotten to the credits. So then back to D'sconi. I'm gonna call him Desani, And so we see this Italian man. He's in first class obviously, and he's checking the ass out of.
The flight attendant. So he's gross.
And this flight attendant is wearing the chicest flight attendant outfit I have ever seen in my life.
It is tailored to her body like it is there's not a room for her to drink a glass of water in this fucking dress.
No, it's red, black zipper on the back. It looks like a Victoria Beckham dress. It does not even Arab Emirates gals are not dressed this fucking good. So then the cops board the plane, and this is my favorite fucking moment. He goes, oh, do you have my laptop? Like this is what an entitled man he thinks. He thinks that the police in New York rushed his laptop to JK in traffic to give him a laptop, Like, you're a fucking numb nut dude. Yeah, I guess he's
also a rapist outside of being entitled. But he's like confused to be arrested, so we can get the vibe like he doesn't know what he did wrong, like he is very confused by this. And then he's claiming diplomatic immunity, which seems like an insane thing to ever exist.
I don't understand that.
So if you're work at an embassy, you go to another country, you can commit all the crimes you want and.
Leave at m peace out. I don't understand.
Yeah, I mean it's I think there's definitely rules, but I've definitely been confused and disgusted by diplomatic immunity before. For sure.
I just really don't get it.
So we have this guy in the interrogation fish tank and Finn gives a little so he gives a clue that Staylor's not around, and he says Stabler would have loved to fucking go at him, which he would, so Munchfin, Craig and Rollins are having like fun cop chats and in walks. The lawyer of the guilty, Marvin Xley Ron Rifkin plays him and quick fact about him. He was an Orthodox Jew until the age of thirty two and
also born on Halloween. So Marvin Xley. And then after Marvin Xley, we get another surprise of a fucking lifetime. Alex Cabot is back from the Congo. I mean, we're I could I was shrieking. I mean I've seen this multiple times, but this was huge.
Yeah.
She she was inspired by the story of Narda Lee.
Remember that episode.
Well, yes, I remember she left, but I didn't know that she was gonna come back. No, that log of her on the stand haunts me for life.
Yeah, and that was a wild episode.
But now so they're filling in Cabot, filling her in, and then we have Rollins talking about the com saliva mixture and.
She goes nice juicy cocktail from the drain, so that's Rollin's we get to know about her. We learn that the maid, Miriam has two sons. Their father is dead and he was killed in a fight. And she's like, listen, I hear he's a rich guy, Like what is this even worth it?
What am I going to do?
He's so rich, And Benson's like, don't no, this won't be easy. But we don't care who he thinks he is. But he's going to jail, so that is a nice moment. And then we have another man with an accent who comes in defending his friend. He's letting us know that the perp was actually playing golf with the President of the United States, so he is highly connected.
There are so many people in this episode. So then Bureau Chief eighty.
A Michael Cutter walks in and he was He has like David Cassidy type hair from the sixties and a sharp nose and he's a good guy.
On all accounts. I believe.
Do you have any strong No, I think he's a little forgettable, but he's a good guy. You unlike hadide I feel like you have the feeling that this guy's like for the victims and like wants to do good.
Yeah, I'm into him.
And then what we learn from Cabot, She says, diplomatic immunity helps you from prosecution, not from arrest. So confusion of diplomatic community grows and grows.
So you can get arrested, but you can't be prosecuted. Then what's the point. I don't really, Okay, I don't whatever. I have no freaking idea.
It's it's very weird, and I think if you work at them beceive, you should have lost.
I'm sure somebody that well, somebody that listens and is like a criminal rule or like a law in law school or something, tell us about this diplomatic community thing. We don't. We're not. We're having a hard time with it.
Go on, and then this is a very shocking moment for me an SVU where so Miriam is being brought into the precinct at everyone stops, it becomes silent.
And they stare at her. Are you not the Special Victims Unit?
Yeah, it's a really weird moment because a million victims have walked through that door and I've never seen that before.
Yeah, it was very weird. And she's like, they're all staring at me. She also does not like it. And then we see that there's a lot of other maids from the hotel being questioned. Now Rawlins is fangirling Marishka. She's like, oh my god, I studied all your cases. I'm obsessed with you. I'll do anything you need. And it's like, I guess they all have heroes too. I didn't realize that cops like follow each other's cases and have.
True Like I don't know if the cops down in Atlanta are like researching New York cases.
But it's cute.
It's like a cute little dynamic to set up.
Yeah, She's just like, he're my hero. I love you so much. So that's that.
And then Marishka's like, I have work to do, like get away from me. But whatever, so we've uh He's oh, a little thing is he charged the hotel on his personal card, not his business card, So like, does this immunity hold up if this was a personal right vacation, because it seems like he was just there visiting a grand kid or whatever. So we get the VIC statement she is from the Sudan and she came here on
political asylum. Benson is looking at Stabler's desk longingly. She is missing him so much she cannot live without him, and Craigan says, listen, it's up to Stabler, like, I don't know what you want from me.
I'm not at the charge.
At this point, we don't know what's up. We know he's been like sort of semi suspended or like under investigation for the shooting. We don't know if he's coming back or not. Yeah, thank you.
So then they do a lineup and my dream is to one day be one of the fake people in a lineup like that seems like really fun because I love to doing jury duty and this seems like a good time too.
But Lisa, much like with your audition, you wouldn't be able to smile. You can't go out a lineup and be like, hi, you're.
Right, oh god.
But hopefully one day someone that looks like me because it's a crime and I can go.
On in there.
Yeah, no more crimes forever. But you know, at one time did have a stunt double and it was a great day of my life. Oh I thought that, Yes, yeah, it was really fun. So in the investigation, she ideas him in like zero point five seconds. I've never seen an id so fast, And Marvin Exley looks a little worried.
And then Finn's dumb ass, Oh no, not fit my bad time. So who says this though?
Fuck that was a lawyer, No Roberto, he says it. He goes on the word of a maid and Finn goes, my grandma was a maid. And it was like, snap, yeah.
You don't fuck with Finn. I was like, Finn would not talk shit about maids, and I was right.
I just wrote it back.
And so then Craigan gives a speech to the whole precincts of like we're under a microscope considering a stabler killed a girl in the squad room. So please mind your p's and q's, do everything, buy the book, do not fuck this up. And they're gonna try to spoil the victim anyway possible, like fine toothcomb, do your job. We are under investigation. And then we get Benson speaking Italian. She loves throwing that on there.
Course Benson speaks Italian. She speaks Spanish. I think she speaks a little bit of French. She's into the she's into the romance languages, Hungarian's She's a romance language girl, plus a little bit of Eastern Europe shaken in there, I guess.
So Melinda Warner has a great quote and she says DNA is like God, it's everywhere, and I really liked that. And it's when she's, you know, getting samples off of the Italian guy.
Well, it's also an interesting thing to say to a guy who thinks he's God. Like this guy thinks he can get away with anything, and it's like, you know, what's God? DNA is God? Like DNA will fuck you?
Like Rollins is always she's always do She always does this because we learn later that she was she grew up in an abusive household, so it makes sense to like kind of identify with the power position, like for survival whatever. But she's always trying to discredit the victims. I feel like, and this is the beginning of why I started to hate Rollins. And then she you know, her fucking sister. But so she's like, come on, why
are we doing this just a maid? Something's fishy. I don't believe this, And then of course gets a quote in and he's like power corrupts absolutely or something like that, you know, just some nonsense absolute absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, so he's a book of quotes, and so then Rollins says my favorite thing where she's like, did anyone try to talk to him? I'll do it, And so she brings her sexy ass down to where in the holding cell and she starts trying to manipulate him getting information. Being on his side, she brings him Italian food. It looks like melted lasagna. It does not look good and he doesn't want to eat it. But you know, he's
playing along a little bit. He's giving her nothing. And then at the end he says, later I will be free and you will be out of a job. So it's like, yeah, Rollins, he saw through your game, like you're I don't know.
He also thought she could like flirt her way into getting some information from him or something.
Yeah, and it's like he's a political I don't know.
Which has worked for Rolins. It does go on to work for Rollins, it's just in this case it's not really working.
Yeah, you're right.
He also said something that fucking enrages me an Italian and it's man has fact and woman has words and it's like, yeah, go away, Okay. So then Cabot's back to work, she's you know, doing things, and wildly he gets remanded to Rikers, which's pretty shocking for someone that rich and powerful, and so that was like pretty exciting. So Stephanie March, thank you for your wonderful work. So they're in a motel, which I don't under They couldn't
leave her in her house. I was confused why they had to be in a motel or does she live in a motel.
Us for her safety? I think okay, I think because it's such a high profile case they had to move her.
They could have getten her a nicer room. I'm sorry.
Yeah, it wasn't a great motile.
She's in distress.
So she, Benson and Cabitt are there and they're like, are you lying? Do you want money? You have to tell us everything. And this is when we learn about Miriam's gruesome past.
And she.
Was gang raped after her husband was killed, and these people had like the blood of her dead husband on them, and it was just like this awful rape past that she had and we're back in the precinct and uh oh, who is it?
Iab rolling on in.
So Craigan and Benson are talking about the Stabler shootings and he has six shootings. Now, I love Elliott Stabler, that's too many.
I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, he also has like he also has like use of force on his jacket, like he's got a lot of.
Problems and refuses to go to therapy like that's the thing. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like can you oh, I don't know. And then Benson's just fighting. I'm like, you're trying to give him up, Craigan, this is not okay. They were they were good jobs, blah blah blah. And Craigan's like, I have his back.
Shut up. It's just like he did.
And he's like all he has to do is a psychical and anger management and Benson is like he would never do that.
It's like that is a problem.
Okay, right right, those are pretty easy things to do to keep your job and your career that you supposedly love. Yeah, you're so against anger management. Bro, you killed a team. Yeah love Stabler, but after thirteen seasons you shot that's an average of one shooting one person every other season, like that's too many people.
Yeah, okay, And then but I do love Benson in this moment. Her hair is half up, half down and it's a little messy, and it's probably one of my favorite looks.
That yeah, I say, I noted that as well. I did like her hair a lot in this episode. I fucking love it.
So the Italian man's wife is here and she's telling the cameras.
He's amazing, He's amazing, and they kiss and hug in front of the cameras, and she has like she has two string of pearls around her neck, so you know she's uber wealthy, you know what I mean to giant pearls.
And he gets house arrests.
And now the gang they meet up at a bar, cop bar, peanuts on the table, and they're here to have philosophical discussions I.
Guess about their friend Stabler.
So they're at the bar and Benson's like, we need him back, and Finn with some smart insights, like he shot a girl, he might not want to come back, Like it's not a IAB, it's not the system. It might just be a person decision on his part. Maybe he wants to hang out with his daughter who needs help, Like, leave him alone, but I would love to know where where he went. Is he doing private security for Rihanna, for rich people? Is he did he get a pension? Did he open a corner store? Just?
Is he preaching?
Is he he turned into a Catholic breeze?
Yeah? No five kids?
Yeah, about to say I think he likes to fuck too much. So then uh oh cover of the newspaper. Miriam lied, not lied, I take that back. Basically another hotel maid sold her out. Audio recorded her talking about how like this guy's rich, I'm gonna get millions of dollars from him.
I'm gonna, you know, try to get all this cash from him.
And it's like that doesn't negate it, And if you were attacked by someone, why couldn't you be like I want him in jail and I want tons of money from him, Like I don't.
I don't see how that is so bad.
But she wasn't honest, and the defense is going to spin this like she just wants the money and it's not real and what the fuck this coworker, you dumb bitch, And then you know they're asking Miriam, They're like, did you hire a civil attorney.
She did, which is bad. But the rape is consistent throughout the story. That's what you know.
Like in the tape, explaining it to the girl is the same way she explained it to everybody else. And they're discussing, like what's going to happen, and then this is said Ada Mike says, perception is not reality, and so that's what a lot of rape cases seem to come down to, is like how you can make the jury think of someone and what actually happened does not matter.
And then Benson gives Rollins like a good job when she tracks another hotel maid who was pushed on the bed by Todstasio but stop, but he stopped attacking her when she screamed, and Rollins is just so happy Benson gave her a good job.
She's smiling ear to ear. She is fucking pumped. And now we are at trial.
We find out that she was convicted of prostitution in South Sudan, but she says it's because like she was raped and when she went to the police, they called her a whore, said she broke shariah, sharia sharia lah, that she broke sharia law, and that they would stone her to death. And so it just brings up the magnitude of like the world and patriarchy, power, money, and how hard it is for people all over the world
to get justice in any way. The Ada, who I said was a good guy, is annoying the shit out of me. That is the note I have on my paper. He doesn't think they're going to win, and Benson actually doesn't believe her anymore, and the new wants to drop
the charges. The Ada and Cabot are fighting. They're having lawyer agreements about ethics and what's right and what's wrong in Cabot's manipulating him and being like, I heard you're the best, but you ain't shit, And so they're carrying to having this conversation and now we're we have this amazing testimony scene and the lawyer has games up his sleeve and it's fucked up. He's like, you lied on
your documents. When you enter the US, they asked if you'd been convicted of a crime, and you said no, and you had been convicted, so you're a liar and you lied about this. And it's just like anyone on the jury that is tricked by this. It just infuriates me. It's like, if you're trying to get into a country and escape an awful situation and help your children live a better life, you're gonna say anything. Yeah, like what does that have to do with being raped? It's just
so fucked up the games that they play. But yeah, it just pisses me off.
And it is also crazy, like what you have here, Like how does that mean when someone lies once? I mean they're always a liar. Like you can literally talk to some of my teachers in school. I probably cheated on a test once. That doesn't mean I'm a forever liar cheater and I should never get justice for anything that happens to me.
Correct, And it's just like such a privileged place to be, like, well, why would you lie in this application?
It's like because if she didn't.
She has to stay in the Sudan.
Like fuck you.
And then Finn is the one with Finn is very wise this episode, and he says what I've been saying, like he's trying to get her kids into the country, like damn, leave her the fuck alone. And then Benson brings up a really good point. She says, it's one thing to be consistent and one thing to be verbatim, And we see this a lot in SVU. It is suspicious when the facts never ever change. And yeah, so this happens a lot, and Finn is like, but don't
you think the guy did it? And Benson rolls her eyes in a way I've never seen like so aggressively annoyed by Finn, and I loved it. So then the motherfucker Italian guy takes the stand and he is saying like, I would never pay for this. Why would I have to? I'm like so powerful and cool. Women love power. She knew exactly who I was. She wanted to do this, she asked for it, and then afterwards said give me
ten grand or I'm gonna say you raped me. And it's like, if this was the truth, why wouldn't you say it sooner? Why wouldn't this be the first thing out of your mouth? Like this did not happen. And second of all, I don't think Miriam is that good of an actress to start like crying in the hallway
after this happened. And no one's just I mean, I that's not true, But I don't think many people are just asking it to give blowjobs willy nilly at their job, Like I'm just gonna say that, but if you are someone that likes to do that, I'm not judging you.
But get fingered a little. Okay.
So anyways, he is just talking bs and I hate him so much. So then Cabot gets to cross examine the witness and she starts grilling him.
She does an incredible job.
She's like, well, you have fucking injuries and she was fighting you off, like excuse me.
He's like, no, that's like the game. That's what women want, Like they just want this power struggle. Said, it's part of the dance, doesn't He yes, yeah, and.
He goes, it's in the woman's eyes, no matter what the words say. And she goes even if the word is no, and she's scratching and fighting and crying and asking for help. Five minutes later like that is your that's your cue to keep going, you fucking piece of shit, and some glad cab It just did an amazing job.
And then the heartbreak of the episode, if it wasn't heartbreaking enough, we get another witness for the defense that just came forward and it's a Sudanese man who helped her fill out her form and he said that the best way to get into the US is to get raped. And he was like, no, don't say one soldier, say twelve. And basically he told her to lie on this application and now out of where he's flying in to testify against her.
What the who is this? Yeah?
It's so crazy. Also, she is saying she was raped and he just increased the number of people, like she was actually raped. Just he just made it twelve people instead of one person.
Yes, but like, are you reading the news and deciding I'm gonna fuck over this woman that I helped?
I just who? I just don't understand this guy.
Yeah, so this, this.
Guy just comes over to screw this woman over and then cabot zingers and she goes, So you coach people to lie, that's your job. Closing arguments. They both do a good job. I don't know what to say. It was good and the jury is taking so long and she's like is that a good sign or is that a bad sign? And the jury is unable to have a unanimous verdict and I was like so scared it was going to be a mistrial, but the judge is allowing it.
Something new. I learned in SV all the time, I didn't know that was possible.
And so it comes back and we get on count one, he's innocent but count to guilty and he's fucking shocked.
We're all shocked.
And they started to celebrate too early when they said he was like innocent on count one, and so I'm happy he was arrested. And the judge said he'll do one year at Rikers, which obviously for a rape is not adequate amount of time, but for a rich, powerful guy like this, I think this is a win. Honestly,
like to have him do a year is amazing. So then we're back in the precinct and Craigan tells Benson to close the door and Elliott put his papers in and there's nothing Craigan can do about it, and Benson says, you know, he's earned it, and she doesn't want to talk to Craigan about it. She does not want to take a day off. Are you kidding me, Craigan? Murshka does not take a day off ever, ever. Ever, she's fine,
and she's cheering up, but she's okay. And then the job never stops, and immediately we get a call ten thirty four on Waiver and Benson and Finn are gonna, you know, roll to the case and hearing Waverley reminds me of Waverley in and it's such a good restaurant and oh my god, I want to go there. So anyways, Benson locks herself into into an interrogation room and starts to really cry, like fucking cry, panting breath cry. She is so sad that's her guy, and it's an intense cry.
I think it's like, it's like that scene is like if you ever thought that she didn't have like more than just good best friends cop coworker feelings for him, Like she is heartbroken in this scene. Like this is not just like, oh snap, who's gonna get me coffee and go to the diner with me at four am? Like this is like she is devastated that he is not.
Going to be with her every day.
I was watching the Office girls Angela and Pam on Watch What Happens Live, and they were saying on the end of the office they all cried hysterically. I don't think they're all fucking each other and romantically into but they.
Are at the end. But yeah, that's true. And look me, I cry when anything ends. I used to cry at after my dance recital every year because I was like, oh my god, it's over, even though I was starting two months later. Like again, like I cry when everything ends. But it just feels like he's still going to be in your life. You can still talk to him, you live in the same city. But I don't know, I just feel like there's something that cry is really intense.
It is intense, and obviously she loves him more than just like a casual partner. But I yeah, that's the whole, not the whole, but that is an element of SVU and why we love it is their dynamic and their love,
but also they've been through so much. But there is a clip with Benson with a Marishka Harga day talking about the relationship and she was saying, how like why there's been more romantic interests for her post Stabler is because she did love him so much that there was no room for another man in Benson's life.
Yes, I've seen that club.
Yeah, so you know, as she letting us know that there was more, I don't know, I don't know.
Yeah, Okay, let's take a quick break and when we come back We're going to get into the extremely, extremely similar true crime that this episode was based on.
Let's get into this.
This story is so closely based on the story of Dominique dress Con. This incident happened in twenty eleven. May fourteenth of twenty eleven. I was living in New York. This was all over the newspaper. This was like the story like so huge, so huge. I did not know who this man was in advance, but apparently anyone interested in like international economics, policy politics knew who he was. He was a very well known person, which is no one not we know personally, which is no one that
I talked to or hang out with or me. So. Dominique dress Con was a French economist and politician, but most notably, he was the managing director of the IMF, which is the International Monetary Fund, from two thousand and seven to twenty eleven. He spoiler alert resigned following a
sexual assault scandal. This is that story done done. On May fourteenth, twenty eleven, Nafesatu Diallo, who is a thirty two year old made at the Safitel hotel in New York, alleged that the sixty two year old Strauss Khan sexually assaulted her in her suite. That's the overview. Now it's funny because you were talking about the Park Milano. That is a that's clearly trying to be like an Italian style hotel. The Safti Tel is a French style hotel,
which is a real hotel in New York. It's on forty four Street between Fifth and six, which to me is not where I would want to stay. It's like Times Square, but it is like a fancy hotel. When I worked at a terrible job in recruiting when I first moved to New York, we used to put some of our recruits up at the Safti Tale. It's like,
it's very nice. So now this entire scandal is happening kind of against the backdrop of the financial crisis of the late two thousands, like early twenty ten's like eight nine, twenty ten, twenty eleven. So the IMF helps to consult, they intervene in policies, they shape global economies. It's a very important organization, and he is the head of it. So this is like a very powerful, wealthy, internationally renowned person who is at the time thought to be the
next president of France. So the president at the time was Nicholas Sarkozy, and I think he and Dominique strauss Khan very much butted heads, and I think he was planning to run against him. Dominique strauss Khan DSK. We'll just call him DSK going forward is to like going to take up a lot less time. He is actually a member of the Democratic Socialist Party, so he is left. He's left leaning, he's left wing. So there are creeps
on both sides of the aisle. I know, we hear a lot about right wing guys, like, you know, having affairs and doing all this stuff. But I always acually.
When people are like, oh, that Democrat and it's like, yeah, no, we know everyone does it. Yeah everyone, They're all bad painter, artists, teachers.
What are you talking about.
Yeah? I hate when they like the parties kind of like get some sick joy when someone from the other side commits an assault.
Well it's like your abusers, right, But I do think it is there is something sort of satisfying about catching a right wing person in sort of like a homosexual situation after they've been anti homosexual for a long time, being bigger than for a long time. I kind of love that get or something I thought about that, or like getting caught doing a shoe tap in a bathroom when you've been like anti marriage equality. I love that hypocrisy being called out as always yeah, always chair.
So he is leading the polls in France.
He's leading in the polls as like the left wing candidate a year out from the presidential election. Okay, they showed like I watched this documentary of him that's called Room twenty eight h six The Accusation. It's on Netflix right now. It's a four part documentary. Very interesting if you want more information on this case. They show him wearing a yes we can T shirt like Kahn, like his last name. Very funny. So basically May thirteenth, he checks into the SAFI Tel New York. He is upgraded
to the presidential suite, bringing any bells. He asks repeatedly for a female employee to bring champagne to his suite. So there is a consistency in him asking employees to go to his room. So that night the thirteenth, he went out. He came home with a female companion in the middle of the night. She leaves a few hours later, I should mention he is also married. He is married also to an extremely wealthy woman. She's worth much much more than him. Nafisatu Diallo, on the other hand, is
an immigrant. She's a single mom. She is an immigrant from West Africa, from Guinea, and she came to the US for a better life. Now she's living in the Bronx, in a low income part of the Bronx, and she's commuting every day to one of the richest neighborhoods probably in the world, but also in the city. But she is super happy with this job. She says, it pays well. She's in a union, she has benefits, Like she's really jazzed that she got this job at the Safie Tawl.
Now she's going upstairs on This is May fourteenth, the day after he brings home his little uh companion. So the fourteenth, a room service guy tells her that he has checked out. So she knocks three times and says housekeeping, no answer, So she opens the door and like she's giving this interview in the documentary, and she's crying. It's like really really, like it gets you. She checks the room.
There's no bags, no laptop on the desk, nothing. She doesn't see anybody, you know, she has said housekeeping several times. Suddenly he comes out naked. She covers her eyes and starts apologizing, like, oh, I'm so sorry. He grabs her breasts and goes, you don't have to be sorry. He pushes her on the bed. She begs for him to stop. She doesn't want to lose her job. She even has.
He says to her, you won't lose your job, Like that's how powerful this guy thinks he is, that he can do whatever he wants, and like nothing's going to happen to you, babe, like I'm important here. And she even makes up a lie on the spot to try to get him to stop. She goes, my supervisor's right outside, like that's not true, but she's freaking out. She describes him as like a monkey, like an animal, like he's pawing at her and trying to get her clothes off.
She's resisting. He pushes her down onto the ground and forces himself into her mouth, exactly like what happens in the episode. She spits it out. She feels disgusting and dirty. She runs outside, and then she sees him walking down the hallway. Five minutes later with his bags. So I find that very interesting too, that it's like later they're going to claim it's consensual, So you just have like
a consensual thing. And then she runs out of the room and then five minutes later, you're rushing out of the hotel with your bags.
Is that usually how.
You're consensual sexual affairs go? Why did her coworkers say that he had checked out? Maybe when he went into the room to pick up the trays, she didn't see the guy. Maybe he was in the bathroom.
I don't know.
That's good, that's a good detail question, But they don't get into that. So her supervisor comes and had never seen her that way before, and you know, like she's concerned about reporting, so she's not sure she wants to report it. They take her to the security office, tell them what happens. She goes, and that's how the drama started. Drama being like something that changed her life forever. She scared to go to the hospital. She's scared she's gonna
lose her job. They get her statements, and she is always consistent and credible throughout everything, like she knows exactly what happened. She says what happened, and basically an hour passes from the time of the attack and the time of the nine one one call. She didn't want to call the police, and the two heads of security kind
of convince her to call the police. And then this is very interesting since it's a hotel, there's cameras everywhere, right, the two security guys, two heads of security, they kind of go into this side room that looks almost like a kitchen, like I don't know, it's some you know, back hallway of the hotel, and they on camera do like a victory dance. They hug each other. It's like
their team just won the Super Bowl. And so that comes into play later like that they have this on tape, like why are these guys celebrating They people think that it's like themselfelebrating that they've effectively ended this man's career. But other people are saying, oh, they're just excited that justice is going to be done and that they convinced her to call the police. So there's two sides of that. Now they want to arrest, they want the police, want
to find him. They don't know where he is. Then ripped from the pages of a law and order Resvu script. He calls the hotel and says, I left my cell phone behind instead of a laptop. Now it's a cell phone. He stated that he was at the Air France lounge at JFK, and so the police take off and go right there, and exactly like on the show, DSK is seated on an Air France flight about to take off. The Port Authority police board the plane. On the show, of course, they let Finn do it, and they let
Munch do it. Many times they've arrested people on a plane about to take off. I think normally it's the port authority police. He gets handcuffed and taken off the plane, and he specifically asked for them to like put his jacket over the handcuffs so that when he's walking through the airport it just looks like a man walking through the airport with two other men, Like it doesn't look like he's being.
You know, hauled off like a purp walk.
Did they do it?
Yeah? Yeah.
He tried to act like he had diplomatic immunity, which is not true because I don't think he's a diplomat. He's just an important international figure. He's not an actual diplomat.
They examine her.
In her physical examination, they find bruising on her shoulder and neck. Her pantyhose has been ripped. They find sperm on her blouse mixed with her saliva. So it's all you know backing her story. They take her through the crime scene and the cops that talk in this documentary were like, she seemed like the victim of an assault. Like she like, there's an outcry witness, there's always the person that not always, but in many cases there is a person that the victim goes to immediately to tell
their story. She had eight outcry witnesses, like she told her supervisor, she told the security guys, she told like within an hour of this happening. She had told many people about what happened, and her story didn't really change her waiver. So they were racing to question DSK before he lawyered up, but he got a lawyer too quickly. His lawyers obviously say that there was no force or violence.
It was consexual. It was conceptxcusing. They say it was consensual, But then the cops are like, if it was consensual, why didn't they have sex on the bed, why did they go down into this weird hallway in the room. Why was she forced onto her knees? Why did she spit out the ejaculate flea outcry. It's like it's too many. It's also nine minutes because there's cameras everywhere, they know
exactly how long she was in that room. For like nine minutes is a pretty like short amount of time to like go in, make a connection, decide to have a consensual sexual thing, and then run out.
Sorry, Kara, but we're we're gonna use consexual. We need to come up with what that means.
But yeah, I love it sexual. So they she exactly like in the episode, she does a lineup, she picks them out of the lineup twice, like no problem.
Uh.
She feels like throwing up doing the lineup because she's so close to him, and she says, I would never forget his face, the person who did this to me, Like of course he has several charges. His charges include at tempted rape, on lawful imprisonment, criminal sex act. They have him in holding and the press show up and like the press on this is enormous, Like I think, huge, huge, huge, Like this is like a celebrity. But on top of that,
there's international news stations that are interested in it. So it's not just like CNN and whoever coming by a New York Post. It's like, you know, French newspapers, German, Asian, like everyone's coming over from everywhere to like check out this story because he's such a huge international figure. And so she gets home from the night, this whole day of being interrogated, she hasn't even be able to take a shower or like rinse her mouth out, like from
this horrible incident. And she turns on the TV in her house and it's immediately all over her TV in the news, and she's freaking out because she didn't know nobody told her this guy is French, this guy is this huge.
She knows he's powerful, I think.
Because he's in the presidential at her expensive hotel, but I don't think she knows that he's this huge, huge figure and that this is such an international news item. So she gets really upset, and eventually so many people start coming to her home to try to talk to her because they track down where she lives that she actually has to separate from her fifteen year old daughter. She has to go stay with relatives.
And I think she like rape victim protection laws in that way, like you can't release names and information and stock rape.
There is there is I know that there are you don't release names of rape victims, but there's always ways that people find this stuff out. I don't really know how they all knew where she lived, but they were. In the documentary, there's footage of people going to her apartment building and trying to like talk to neighbors and everything. So this is an event that like completely changed her
entire life. So in the episode leads, I don't know if we actually covered this, but Craigan says, take him out the back, no purp walk, and then they do it anyway.
They give him a purp walk, and it's like really.
Like a ton of cameras. That's exactly what happened in real life. They purp walk DSK like in the episode they talk about purp walks in this documentary where they say they've been going on for decades, like and they were like, listen, listen, we tell the media when we're going to come out with the purp because we just want them to get their shot and get the hell out of there. Otherwise they hang around for twelve to fourteen hours a day outside of our precinct waiting for
this person to come out. So it kind of makes sense. But then the lawyer for DSK says, they're totally pointless purp walks.
They just give police a moment in the sun and they only serve to.
Embarrass the accused. So but it's massive, like the number of people that are like standing on vans and like everyone's taking photos of him, Like it's a ton ton ton of people because they're transporting him from a certain precinct I think, to like a downtown courthouse. People in France like do not believe that he's done anything. They
think this is a plot to sabotage his presidency. And it's like they show in this documentary, they show all these clips of like gross old white guys going this man does not know violence, like he's a womanizer, but he is not violent. It's like, how could you know about your friend? How could you know that have you ever been in a sexual encounter with him? Like you don't know what he's into. So obviously through all this they unearthed a ton of shit about him. He is
this like wild womanizer. He is a real sexually free kind of dude, And I don't judge him for any of that, Like because he goes to swingers clubs, he goes to sex clubs, I'm not judging any of that. He did have an affair with a senior staffer at the IMF who claimed that she was harassed into the affair that like because of his position at the IMF, she felt she was like damned if she did and damned if she didn't, and so she was like forced
into this affair with him. The IMF did their own investigation into that affair and said it was inappropriate, but they did they found that he had no wrongdoing and that he didn't physically force her, but she felt forced by the power imbalance, which is exactly what me too, and Harvey Weinstein and everything is about.
She got a divorce, her career suffered.
He got off completely scot free, like so typical like thing that you say, she did lose her job, I think, yeah, she stopped walk she stopped working there, and I know that her she was made redundant later, yes, she was fired, so yeah, and he got nothing.
So his behavior became like a joke.
Yeah, this is for the IMF thing, This is for the Oh okay, sorry, that's what I'm talking about. Sorry, I'm talking about his affair at the IMF that would happened earlier.
Yeah, so his behavior was just like a joke.
To people, like upset about that too.
Yeah, he's just like.
A Don Juan.
Everyone's like, oh, he goes to swingers, he has swingers parties. He has this like unbridled sex life. And apparently his very wealthy wife was always just kind of like now, he doesn't I believe him, Like she just never like she just couldn't see him for who he was, or maybe she did see him for who he was and didn't care.
I don't know.
And so he is a major adversary of Sarkozy, the president of France, who thought that his sexual proclivities would definitely preclude him from ever being president of France. He was like, this guy's never gonna make it. He's too It's like how we all thought Donald Trump's never going to be president. He's been married three times with different kids from different baby mama's, and like he's you know, there's no way, but I think there can be a way.
So DSK before this trip, right before this trip to New York, he reveals that he thinks he's being surveilled by like Sarkosi and like Sarcosi's government, that he thinks his phone calls are being tapped, his emails are being looked at, and that he thinks Sarcose's building a case against him. So this is some real house of card shit.
And then two days later after this, two days after the assault, a member of his own party speaks up and says that he assaulted her daughter, a twenty three year old journalist, nine years earlier, and they interviewed this woman. She's a very gorgeous French woman. So this French journalist, when she heard the story, she couldn't even She thought it was made up. She thought the maid made up the story because it was so identical to her own story.
She thought, this woman has heard my story and is repeating it to try to get him, because that's how similar they were. Basically, she interviewed DSK. He said, oh, if you want to talk more, let's meet up.
You know.
He invited her to an empty apartment where he turned off her recorder that she plays on the table, He attacks her. They like fight on the floor, and she said he seemed very excited by the violence of it, but she got away. She ran out before he could actually like assault her. I mean he assaulted her, but before he could you know, further it And she said it was basically like a scene from a horror movie.
So back in New York. So now this woman's name is Tristan and she is she is now thinking about pressing charges against him because it's like she's like, as much as I keep trying to bury this story, it keeps coming up that this man like assaulted me. So now we're back in New York with DSK and his lawyer. One of his lawyers is Ben Brafman, King of New York Defense Attorneys, who has represented Michael Jackson, Harvey Weinstein, Puff,
Daddy jay Z and a bunch of mob guys. So basically, so DSK is facing seven charges and a possible seventy four years in prison. Okay, prosecutors do not want him to jump bail or they said even if he was under house arrests, like, who's to say he wouldn't do this again to some poor delivery person or something. And they mentioned that he may have committed this crime before. So he is actually much like the episode not granted bail.
He is remanded to Rikers, which is exactly what happens in the episode and is very shocking that that would happen to such a rich, well known person. They offer him to do an electronic anklet, they offer all this stuff and they're like, no, he's remanded. He's not granted bail. He doesn't scream out, he doesn't freak out, he doesn't do anything bad in the courtroom, Like he just says to his lawyers, okay, just like get me off, like let's go. So he gets moved to Rikers. He's on
suicide watch there. His lawyers truly feel like he needs to be released or he will be attacked or killed at Rikers because Rikers is notoriously horrible, and they think he's gonna be I don't know if they had the ability to put him into solitary or away from gen pop or whatever. But and amongst all this, he resigned from the IMF and his wife stands by him the entire time. And there's like he has like an assistant in the documentary who's like the saddest moment of my
life was writing up his resignation letter. I started crying in the middle. I was like, lady, get a life, look at your This guy is disgusting anyway.
So a lot like what happens in the episode.
Every time he appears in court, there is like an amazing protest outside the courthouse of women, like women are going nuts. A lot of people do think that the DSK trial was the start of the met too movement because it this reflected a lot of what was going on at the time. There's like huge protests maids from other hotels, like the union.
The Maids Union busts them all in.
Got them all there, probably paid them while they were protesting, which I thought was really cool of this union. So they they bring him back to court because he appeals the bail. He now does get bail, so he was in rikers for a few days. But then he does get bail. He gets a home detention to ankler monitor. He has to have an arm guard that he pays for if there's any problems at all. If he does
anything wrong, he will be remanded again. So his rich wife rents this luxury apartment in Tribeca, which of course there are photos of because there's real estate sites and everything. So everyone's publishing these photos of like where Dominique draus Khan is like in jail, in like a huge loft apartment in Tribeca. And then he has a lot like the friend that you talk about in the SVU episode who comes in and is like, this is the farce. He has this friend who's another politician or some kind
of high up guy from France comes over. He's one of the only people that the judge approves for DSK to have a visitor, and he suggests to him, you know, the way the courts work in America, you really only have to convince one juror that you're innocent. And New York has such a high Jewish population and DSK is Jewish. He's like, you really need to get the Jewish community on your side. So then publicly, two or three times he has rabbis come visit him at this Tribeca loft for just.
All for the I just don't understand why the judge allowed him to have a friend. It's like, you're already in this luxury apartment. How do you now get friends to come hang out with you?
I guess, I guess, because like you're allowed a visitor in jail, so I guess you're allowed, but those I don't know it. Those are recorded and observed. I know, I know, I know it's crazy. It's crazy. I don't know why how this guy got in, but then this guy and this guy goes it's a little trick we played, but I knew he was going to get off, and it was like to basically, yeah, to try to get a Jew on your fucking I don't think every Jewish person's just going to say another Jewish person's innocent.
But and who are these morally bankrupt rabbis?
I know, I know it's gross.
So I think morally bankrupt and.
Morally corrupt fey Resnik. Yeah, So they appoint this special investigator to kind of like double check everybody's stories. And I hate this guy. He's in the documentary. He comes across like a full asshole. He's on DSK side. Immediately they brought Diallo in for interviews, and she didn't speak good English. She didn't speak English to the point where she was confident enough to give her testimony in English, and so they got a translator. He thought he's at
one point noticed her correct the translator in English. So he thinks in his mind she's fucking lying about not speaking English, and like, why aren't we doing this in English? You understand English, you speak English personally as someone who like I lived in Italy, I speak Italian. When the Amanda Knox case happened, I'm like, that girl's biggest mistake was that she gave all hermony in Italian. She probably did not speak good enough Italian and she got completely misunderstood.
You should have a fucking translator in your native language or in the language that you feel the most comfortable in, and that's what she did. That's us to say she doesn't speak any English. She speaks some English, but she felt more comfortable doing it in her own language. And this guy thought that was a huge red flag because when you have a translator, it gives you a moment
to think about your answers. That's what his big point was. Sucks, they find a sixty thousand dollars deposit in her bank account, kind of a red flag. Sketchy. She says her fiance doesn't have a bank account and that that's his money
that he put into her bank account. And it turns out this fiance is in Arizona in jail for drugs I don't really know what this has to do with anything, because as long as you can trace it, the money didn't come from like Sarkosi, it didn't come from the President of France trying to get you to frame DSK. I don't really understand why it matters where this money came from. As long as you can locate the original
where it did come from, and that's it. She tells her boyfriend on a recorded call in jail, don't worry, he has a lot of money. She denies that she said this. I mean, I don't know if there's a tape or whatever. This. So the investigator that I'm talking about, this guy that I hate is, says he thinks she's a con artist. He says, you know, we don't know whether she knew he was a high wealth individual before she entered that room, but I think she did. I
think he sucks. It's kind of insane to think that this woman, who by her own admission, cannot read or write, but is actually part of a huge conspiracy where she was hired by the President of France to take down the president of the IMF. Like it's just too much. It's a little bit too much. I think of a story. She told a story to the investigator about being raped by a dozen soldiers in West Africa, exactly the same
as the episode she cries. She hits a very emotional story, and then later she admits to the police that she made that story up. And she said a guy she met helped her do her application for asylum, same as this fucking guy that they got. I mean, we thought that they created this insane character on us view, but this is really what happened. This guy said it would help her application for asylum to say that she was gang raped, and gave her a tape of a woman
telling her story of this happening to her. And that's why she had so many details and could kind of mimic the emotion and stuff like that. And she had a bad lawyer in the Sudan who told her to make things up for her asylum application. And like we already discussed, you can see why people do that. They're
coming trying to escape a terrible situation. So now she's just under so much scrutiny, like they're interviewing her so many times, and people on the DSK side are saying that she cried rape after he stiffed her for money after they had sex, and that she's a sex worker. The New York Post, so they run a front page story calling her a prostitute. And then yeah, now we're
at the trial. Like I said, her union shows up, they're supporting her, like all these people are there with signs like and you know, essentially, her lawyers are like, a nine minute sexual encounter does not add up to like a consensual.
Thing.
You know, that's just that doesn't It doesn't add up, Like none of this is making sense. But the prosecutors in the in the case moved to drop the charges because they cannot prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
So the defense doesn't even enough.
To do anymore. The prosecutors are like, we just can't do it. We cannot make this an air tight case. The prosecution on August twenty third, So now it's been June July, always been three months. This case moved really fast, three months the prosecution later, the prosecution says, the witness was untruthful with us several times, and this means that we cannot in good faith ask a jury to believe her testimony.
And the indictment is dismissed. And he's speaking, I'm like.
Hey, oh yeah, it's so infuriating, And can I just say she had to tell her account of what happened a dozen times or more. He never had to say anything, He never had to say what happened, He never had to testify, he never had to like not nothing. So her interviews are really really heartbreaking, and she says she's just like in this documentary, like it's really worth watching. She says, there's just they don't do anything because I'm a nobody. Like if I was somebody, they would have
put him in jail for a long time. But I'm I'm I'm nobody, And that's it's fucked up because it's not true because I really do think people know her name and know then like she helped bring a lot of awareness to this person.
And he's not running for president of France anymore.
So, if anything, you stopped him from becoming more powerful than he already was. And his lawyer brags that this is one of his greatest successes and it's disgusting. So just to follow up, a year later, he is implicated in a pimping scandal and they have this woman in the documentary who's like I was offered fifteen hundred dollars to spend a few hours with him. She had a horrible sexual encounter with him, where he did things she did not want him to do. She was like, I
allowed it to happen because I need the money. But she's crying talking about it, like it was truly clearly traumatic for her. He denies knowing any of the women at these little parties. He goes to our sex workers. So in twenty fifteen he's acquitted of aggravated pimping. So now this is like multiple charges against this man, like
multi public accusations. Unfortunately, Tristan's case was dropped because of the lack of evidence and a three year statute of limitations, but she says she feels that her and Diallo the Maid were instrumental in the me too movement. So ultimately, in the end, Diallo talks in her interviews where she says, I feel that many women feel more comfortable coming forward and like I've helped people, even if like I didn't
get justice, and she feels good about that. She did reach a settlement with DSK that is confidential, but it's reported to be one point five million dollars and Dominique Schreskhon has no criminal record to this day.
Damn, this blows yuck. And does he work now?
Yeah, he's consulted well. That rich wife finally left him after the pimping scandal. He has a new hot wife and he still consults and makes money off of doing being an economist. And I don't think his political aspirations will ever get to where he wanted him to be. He'll never be the president of France. But you know, he's still working and living and fine. And I actually looked up that Nafisatu Diallo has opened a restaurant in
the Bronx called Shaye a Mina. I think, so if you are in the Bronx or anywhere near, please order from there.
Damn that sucks.
I can't believe the prosecution just gave up like that.
They Yeah, I think they were just like, we can't make this case air tight, which is pretty wide.
Yeah, but that means that they just care about their record and winning and losing. It's like, oh, you could have swayed the jury. There could have been moments he could have still been guilty, like right. That upsets me that they wouldn't yeah, in that case I made he was guilty. Yeah, who's cy Vance.
He was the District Attorney of New York for a long time, and he was the one that chose to drop the charges. But yeah, and she had like she had an organization that was backing her throughout the whole thing. That was like, this is racist. If this was like a black man that committed this crime against like a
white woman, this would be totally different, you know. So it's you know, it's like there's a lot of layers to it, but ultimately it's like, this is a man who is like a sex addict of some sort and also violent, not that that those are related necessarily at all, but like, you know, he was out, he was in New York for a couple of nights, and he brought home a strange a woman one night, and then the next night he forced a maid to give him mooral sex.
It's like, you, something's wrong with you. You need to be in jail.
Asserting your Yeah, you need to be exerting your power.
This often, like every single night, every single day, you have to be like objectifying and assaulting a woman in some investigators.
And like he's bad enough, but just how many enablers there are and how many people were and hitting it away with it.
It was a huge thing that his wife stood behind him. She was just in constantly in every interview. It's just like in the f few episode, I love him, He's I'm with him. Uh, you know, he's done nothing wrong and she eventually left him.
But and I also not that I like this, but it's interesting that you knew every like you remember this case and I have no idea about it.
Did you live in New York twenty eleven? No? Well, yeah, I mean I just I read the free paper every day on my subway on my way to work, and like am New York, and it was just like always like whatever the big you know. I just this was like and at your bodega when you're going to like buy a sandwich or whatever. It's just that's what's on the cover of the New York Post. Is like everything was about this case. It was like huge, Now I just want a bodega sandwich. Okay, Well, stay tuned for
our post mortem because we do not have a guest. Okay, post mortem. I mean I watched this whole story unfold in New York as it was happening, So of course I was always waiting for an SVU to come out about it, and I think they did a good job showing how you know, absolute power corrupts.
Yeah, don't tell.
Your coworkers aren't your friends. I mean it always is the because we know not to trust a man. But like it is so upsetting when it's your galpals. Yeah, when it's your and about something like this, like what the fuck you dumb bitch, And.
It's just it is fucked up to how like everybody just is always looking for these perfect victims, like victims that have no never had any trouble with the law, have never told a lie before. Like it's just not it's just not possible, and it seems like an impossible standard that we hold people up to just if they want to get justice for a crime that's been done to them.
But even if you're a quote unquote a perfect victim, they're still they're go there they will always find a hole.
Like it is really wild.
Even the people well, I mean it's not like I have respect for the people coming to support Russell Brand, but it's like, right, even he doesn't look a little raye to you, like I just you know Elon musk Be, Like that's a good guy. I like that guy, Like he is the poster child of someone to look out for at a punk show, you know, like there would
be posters of his space. It's just like they'll just defend anyone, and they know these things happen, but they're willing to defend anybody first before saying fuck it happens. I just don't get it. I don't get it. I don'll never understand.
Yeah. Well, also in I'm like I'm looking up really quickly, like what has happened to Dominique straus Kon, like since his thing like that, because this all happened in twenty eleven. In twenty fifteen, he was acquitted of a in France of quote unquote aggravated pimping, and that was charges related to apparently regular sex orgies that he has. Like this is obviously a not that there's anything wrong with sex orgies, but I just feel like this man is doing bad
things and taking what he wants. And he's also an under investigation right now for like tax fraud in Morocco, like stemming from properties he owns there. Like it's just these people it's like what we were just talking about in the intro. Just these people with like endless money that could think they can do whatever they want. It's fucked up.
Well, I hate it.
Just the system reinforces that, and the media and all the other people, like everyone reinforces the thing. Like you won't even be in that much trouble, don't.
Worry about it.
Yeah, I hope Russell Brands serves serious time.
Like Danny Masterson.
I hope all of them start fucking getting scared and acting right. That's the thing. They're so arrogant. They never think they're gonna get caught. And once these motherfuckers start getting jailed, maybe they'll start behaving, but it they'll like zip up their goddamn pants.
But it's like Cosby was jailed and then he was like let out after a year, Like it would not be surprised if Danny Masterson was out in like two years. They'll just if you have enough money, it's just appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal, until like it happens. I don't know, that seems so negative, Nancy, but like I don't know, I just feel like money buys you so much. Meanwhile, there's like people rotting in
jail for having a dime bag of weed. And I hate the people that are like, ugh, they're just setting an example out of him. And it's like, but I see, no that someone got someone's got to be the example.
What is the problem here?
I just don't get, like straight up, like there's so many examples of who rapes and it's everyone, and it's a lot of people in power and famous people, And I don't get when the news comes out, why the initial reaction from so many people is no way, Yeah, like who else is doing this if it's not this guy? Like they just imagine Jack the Rippers, Like what are the death thing? The grim Reaper? They just think the Grim Reaper's out raping.
You know what I mean?
I just always assume the Grim Reaper was just a bunch of like mist underneath that cloak.
I didn't think he had like a penis. But wow, I bet he is raping.
Okay, should we move on.
I'll say it was great acting.
And and diplomats, why do they get all these extra rules like commit crimes, it doesn't matter you're in the embassy. I don't even get that. Yeah, those rules be for government officials.
Right, especially if it's like body to body crime, like whatever, if you want to get out of a parking ticket and you're a diplomat, I guess that's like a perk, but like like actual crimes against other human beings that involve suffering, feels like, no, you should be held accountable. But you know, I'm not in the legislature, so I can't make anything happen. But should we move on to our what would Sister peg do? For today?
We should this week for our what would.
Sister beg Do? Segment where you guys know, we give you guys organization, a charity, a blog post, a checklist. I don't know something to help give you more information, because Lord knows, we are not the end all be all scholars on anything. I just wanted to point you to the docuseries called Room twenty eight oh six The Colon the Accusation, which is a four part series on Netflix that does a deep dive into the twenty eleven
Dominique stress Con sexual assault case. It details his career, the allegations made by Nofice Diallo, and the fallout from the case. So if you want to get any more info on it and then write me and tell me I was wrong about a couple of things with the crime. Go for it, and that's on Netflix, and we will link to that in our stories that comes out the day of the episode, and they are saved forever in our what would Sister Peg do? Highlight on our Instagram page.
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