Diss w/ Amber Stevens West

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Oh, I would tell you.

Yesterday I went to a performance that Rosie did for school. It was a musical performance and at the very beginning, she was killing it, Like the music teacher kept going what's this and Rosie would be.

Like, it's a you guleley? How many strings?

For?

Like she knew everything.

She was being so great, but then she really focused in on me, like she saw me because there was two rows of parents. It's not a big room, and she just started like hamming it up and going fucking nuts.

It was crazy. I had to keep going calmed down, comped. I had to keep like.

Making sign language and her to like calm her body. But she just went nuts. And everybody is like, what a natural performer, And I was like, this is not and.

What does nuts entail?

Funny faces, funny fasis spinning.

Around periodic like yips and yelps and screams.

You know.

Just there was another kid there kind of hyping her up, and like once he got going, she was like, yes this week and do whatever we want, like and I don't know, I just don't know what to do. I feel like she's gonna be a little performer. She's such a ham. She loves to get laughs from people. Yeah, that's great news.

I always like the videos online of like parents showing up. It matters and it's like a little boy looking for his parents and he's depressed and then he sees a parent and like truly shines.

Yeah.

I remember, like my mom worked a lot and she couldn't come to everything. But like I do remember, like my mom wore one of those big puffy coats with like a fur hood like and I remember seeing her little fur hood like bobbing through the audience and being like, oh, my mom came because like she could barely ever come to anything, and yeah, I want to go to her stuff.

My husband couldn't go.

Because you heard it here first, he finally got a vasectomy.

We're done, everyone.

The factory, the baby fact making factory is closed over at my house and I'm excited.

Yeah, shut down.

Yeah, he couldn't go sit on a super tiny little kid chair and watch our daughter freak out.

So I went alone.

So was it a performance show or was it like name this instrument?

And then they they.

Did, they sang songs, they like they did all this stuff with their their teacher, but like their music teacher was leading it. So it was a little bit of call and response with their music teacher. But I could feel parents keep looking at me to be like, look at her.

You know what I mean to.

Like give me, and I think most of them know that, like I'm in the I'm in the arts, so I feel.

Like they were all like look at this.

But speaking of performances, Miley Cyrus did an interview with British Vogue beautiful photo shoot with Stephen Misel, but she said she doesn't want to tour and has no interest in touring. And I've been calling that for a while. I said she's not and she had to put out a statement like a like a notepad apology on her notes app on her Instagram because the fans went nuts. You know, the fans are like, you don't care about us, because you know you don't. You're not here for us,

Yeah, but like it's also like you don't own these people, like you don't own your heroes.

Oh no, if you want to have a good time and take a deep dive into mental illness, I would look into the comments of the notes app. It's just people truly like we'll forgive you this time, but I don't understand you're making excuses and we do this and no press nothing. You just dropped an album and that's that, And it's like, who are It's really confusing. She's She's just straight up like, I don't want to live on a bus. I don't want to travel NonStop, and I

Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you. Would she ever do a residency? I don't know. If I have, I'll you know.

When you talk, because I feel like that would be really cool if she could pick like a super cool she could pick a super cool, like small venue, and it would just be like whoever gets tickets gets tickets, you know, like it doesn't have to be like a Vegas like Caesar's thing, you know.

Yeah, And I don't think people realize like she was selling out stadiums before she was sixteen, you know, like, yeah, she has been touring for a really long time.

Her last sore was twenty fourteen.

But they say that's where all the money is like, don't they say that's like really, where the artists make the money is like through the touring.

Yeah, but that's why she's so cool.

She doesn't need money and she's not she's not beholden to anyone. She truly is an artist and does whatever she wants whenever she wants. I mean, during her flaming lips, you know, happy hipp vibes she was, she released the free.

Album on SoundCloud. Yeah, you know.

She she does is She's not part of the machine. She doesn't have to be. She truly is guided by Dolly. But you're convincing me to follow her right now. I can't believe.

I don't.

Well, yeah, and she just did like Vogue like my life and looks, and she just loves fashion in her crew and she's making music and she doesn't have to do anything, and that's what's cool. And obviously I think everyone just compares everyone to Taylor Swift and like how much Taylor get three hour concerts for the fans and that's amazing. But everyone is different and it's cool that my hat. I'm mad, I'm upset. I want to see her live. I would love to.

I think Taylor's doing it for money as well. And it's like, if it was about connecting with the fans, she would sell all the tickets for fifty dollars, Like they're one thousand dollars per fucking ticket.

They're so hard to get, Like, I don't know, is.

It really about just like connecting with the fans. It's a business.

No.

Amy Schumer did an interview this past year before her tour and she said that she was going to make around ten million from her stand up tour, and the interviewer was like, wait, wait what or something, and she goes, did you think it was for the love of comedy?

Like what are you talking about?

Like Pearl Jam back in the nineties liked went to war with ticket Master because they were like, we want our tickets to be twenty dollars, because they were about in it for that, Like they were not in it for that reason, like the money, you know, No, the price. Again, I'm I'm not here to make fun of Taylor. Please nobody come for us about that. I'm just saying it is a business, Like I don't think that they're just purely out there to be like got to connect with

Well, it's so much the parasocial thing of it all. Yeah, we kind of invent what we want about the people. Like I guess I can think that Miley is doing things for me, but I think that's what's cool about her is it's.

What she wants to do.

Yeah, and touring is hard, and if you don't have to do something you don't want to do, I don't.

Yeah, I don't know. My favorite thing is but a full apology. Look how.

My favorite thing is the outfits I want to wear don't fold. That's like so funny to me because like Miley, Cyrus makes enough money that, like her outfits could be on a rack, like in their own bus, like going across the country, you know what I mean, like in a truck, fully hanging, never folded.

But that's a funny. Try working a nine to five like many of your fans do. They don't make millions like you, but we would still paid excessive amounts.

Too bad.

Your reason for touring is simply because you don't want to change in a locker and sleep on a tour bus.

Poor you.

And it's like, yeah, I don't know why you think she just the sacrifice.

I I don't really.

Yeah, And then you come home and you go to bed in a bed, and you get your rest time and you get your free time. You don't get that when you're touring city to city and you're sleeping on a fucking moving bus.

Like I don't know that. Like to me, this is apples.

To Orange is talking about how your your job is just as hard as her job or whatever, like they're they're hard in different ways.

I love you to pieces truly, but I'm very disappointed. Feels very privileged to just exit out. It's like she's she could come back, Like I don't know. But Kylie sonic Love wrote I love you, baby girl, which reminds me, and we can we'll start soon. But I watch the pit stop and Beyonca mentioned like a wild night in Palm Springs where so Kylie's Sonic Love, Bianca and Miley were hanging out at Bianca's house having a little tequila.

Oh fun, and I knew they were friends and that she was such a big Drag Race fan.

But I love that they're drinking tequila and palm springs together.

Oh my god.

Miley, I think is one of the only celebrities I will say, who fucking like when she's like I love drag, she like means it, like she's not just like oh yeah, it's fun, like oh I love RuPaul and like we did a project together and whatever.

You know what I mean, Like Miley went on Rogan and.

Like defended fucking drag and like she is about it, you know.

Oh yeah, she loves it. Yeah.

I think the residency maybe I don't know. I guess she wants to do a residency. Do a residency. I mean, that's it's gonna be crazy to get it. I also understand like not feeling safe with like shootings and bombs going off at concerts like that happened at an Ariana Grande concert, Like I could, you know, I can understand just being like I don't really feel like taking this risk right now of like being up on a stage in front of in front of fans that would tear

I it's just.

I love the concerts and small values, but I would love to see my ley. I'm with all these people, but I don't understand the ownership or the demand or like thinking you're entitled for her to do this. Of course, she's making so much lovely music for us, looking sexy as a fuck, Like what what.

Do you guys want?

But I watched her vogue My Life and looks three times.

Yeah that's you know. I miss her too, got you know.

Yeah, you're giving her the clicks, you're giving her the love. Let's get started, because oh my god, this is a perfect segue talking about pop stars and fame into today's episode. We don't even mean to do this. Wow, this is wild. Guys, stay where you are, We're about to start.

Okay, we are doing diss which is funny, but season twenty episodes too, so is this one.

Our friend Warren Light was not working on the show.

Yes, I was noticing that because they're all I think he comes back in twenty one because twenty one is where the names get big again.

And you know, with the title diss it is unfortunate that Christopher Maloney isn't here to bring up his black scent, you know what I mean, Like, I'm really sad we don't have Maloney saying this all thing. Yeah, she said your wang's no big thing, so that you know, we're starting on a sad note in terms of people speaking black when they're not.

I don't even know if that's how you say it.

But also air date May second, so that's my niece's birthday and Alex Crawley, my friend.

So shout out.

Shout out to the Taurus queens. So we open this episode, no, we're noise of cop cars driving on an empty street under a bridge in the city, and we hear a damn it in a woman's voice put over her car and she gives herself a little pep talk. She's like, okay, girl, be cool, be cool. The cop approaches the car and she shouts, I know, officer, I forgot to signal, which my father, you never admit anything to the cops. This is that's a mistake. You don't give him any anything. Yeah,

And so the cop is like, what did I tell you?

And so then she turns around and she kneeds him in the dick, takes his gun, points it at the other like the other you know cop.

There's two cops.

Demands his gun, which he hands over, and she has both arms straight out with a gun in each hand. It's pretty hot but dangerous, and she's in her lime green glitter dress. She makes them get all the way down and lay down on the ground, and that's when we realize it's a music video.

Lol.

A perfect opening for an SVU though, because this is absolutely how an SVU could start. And then it's just like one hundred drop the beat. I was not expecting it. So there's sexy dancing explosions. It's a song. The song is called fire gyrating glitter boots. Close ups dance scenes. She's posing with the gun and we hear cut and both are and the director really happy with the shot. One and done, one take wonder and he's all about the sex appeal.

He's like, this video's hot as fuck.

And she's like and it's about BLM and me too, and he's like, I don't care. And then we meet a daughter and she's she's my kind of girl. Right away, she goes, can we go to Dave and Busters now? So I love her. The mom's like, we can't. You know, daddy has a concert tonight, and the girl's like, fuck that, I want to go to d and B. So a person I assume is on the payroll, a young man, he's like, you know, I'll stay with her, I'll take her, and she's like, oh thanks, Wallace. Then our main superstar

And it's like, yeah, she can't go to Dave and Busters. She'll be mom.

Yeah, so you know, she thanks the cop actors. She is a professional, kind, benevolent, amazing superstar. We cut to Wallace and the girl coming home. No prizes, so I'm like, what the fuck. But then she's saving up her tickets for a big ticket item. No, I see she's eating something. I think she got the candy prizes, so that's good. I mean, I'm sure she's not even impressed with the toys. She's you know, she's a two Superstars kid. But Wallace right away sees something's up, like the door is open

Fuck. The media acts fast.

Dozens of photographers are there, ready to snap shots as the paramedics take Dallas out in a stretcher with a full neck brace, and IT'SO and Benson and Rollins are on the scene.

They're in shock. Benson's like, is that really her?

She's starstruck, she can't believe it, and Rollins is like, she fought back, maybe she shouldn't have. And of course Rollins is blaming a woman always always, do you know what in terms of scanned of All, I bet she would say Arianna deserved it.

No.

Just before we came on to record.

This, I was rewatching a favorite of yours, the video where Ariana's.

Like, this is my birthday and my dad's.

Dead, and sand of All is like, I get it, but we rented a bulldozer.

Trucks, Babe, I got it.

And so of course I read the comments, and I'm in the comments and there are people being like, she's always cross, she's manipulative, she should this that, And I'm like, I wrote something on someone's I go, I hope one day you have someone that chooses your pain over a construction park. That's you could like, I want to know what the what's if they're just trolls or if these

So yeah, Rollin's blaming the woman.

I guess she should have sat and taken it, according to Rollins, and I bet she would have been like why didn't she fight back?

It's like insane.

We find out that she has bleeding behind her ears, possible skull fracture.

She was hit multiple times in the head.

Benson asked, if she was raped, we'll see rape, you know, we got to wait for the rape kit, but her robe was ripped open. And then now we have a delivery boy witness and he heard someone say it was snake in Dallas, so he hung around and Creasey's questioning him. It was dark out, and Creasey's like, whoa, I love

But where is Snake now?

He's doing a concert at the Apollo, which is not really a giant venue.

So I wonder if you know where nobody. I wonder if to pop up. Yeah, I wonder if just doing it because it's iconic, like, I don't know, but I think he would have already done it, So that's what I mean. I wonder if it was just like a quick pop up show, yeah, or he's you know, at that level. I don't know, but it seemed like they were both kind of superstars. Yeah, the Apollo is cool, No knock onto the Apollo. Yes, it just gives clues as to what's going on. Actually, have you been in

Yeah, I'm gonna guess three thousand. Let's see. I'm gonna yeah, certainly not MSG for sure, I do. I guess no.

I would say I'll do prices right and say twyne and ninety nine.

We're both over fifteen hundred. Wow, So yeaho it.

I mean it's gorgeous, it's really pretty.

It's really pretty. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool that they do. It's cool that they shoot there too.

Anyway, So we're at the Apollo Sorry, but you know we we love Vedyas.

Okay.

So a concert's happening and it's a Kanye vibe of song, I would say, And there she is Venetia singing her slut ass off and I love this song, like I'm really into this fake Kanye song. And Fake Kanye is played by Orlando Jones. And then from the corner we see Finn off stage side stage, and Orlando Jones knows him, so fake Kanye. Orlando's like Finn, oh my god. And then Finn gets a full shout out to all the audience.

Finally, Jesus, So when I wait?

I just want to say, when I was like researching this episode for the crime part, I ended up on like a Reddit thread discussion of the episode, and like everyone wanted to know what the song was. Everyone was like, what's the song that he's singing with Venetia?

Like everybody loves it.

So SVU needs to like release some of this fake music that's on their show.

But also put out a CD. Yeah, so I know Orlando Jones from Mad TV? Or is he anything else for you?

Seven up?

Oh?

Make seven up yours baby? Yes? I had the T.

Shirt really, yes, somebody gave it to me like a bit T shirt in college and said make.

Seven up yours.

I thought those commercials were so funny for some reason. They really tickled me in the right time of my life. I guess when I was like nineteen and they came out, I thought they were so hilarious.

Yeah, and then I did look and he was in office space. He sold the magazines to them. Oh, the magazine subscriptions. It really is one of the best movies. It's so good a hit.

It's a hit baby, so okay, we're back.

It's you know, so in the credits, though, I never really noticed Peter's photo and he's standing by like a train as a train, you know, flies forward, and I really like that. I think that would have been my choice for photo. Like do you ever think about like what your SNL photo would be.

At the beginning? I've thought about it. I guess I've thought about it, but.

I know this careesy choice or Scanavino, Like I wonder if they got to decide, Yeah, like I would probably just be like hailing a cab and being like, oh, oh, it's you hi, you know, like to the camera.

But yeah, I don't. I gotta like look at the credits again. I feel like I didn't even notice this.

Well that's what I mean. I never noticed it either, But I liked it. I like the way he looked, so yeah, we're back and we're just leaving the concert no time, no time lapses, and Cariese's walking asking, like Finn how they know each other, as mobs of cameras and people are trying to get a peek, and Finn explains that their moms were best friends, so they're childhood friends. Carisy has but her because he didn't get a.

Heads up about that.

Okay, Orlando's in the limo and it's big as hell, and he thanks Finn for coming down personally, and Cariese's dumb ass is like, well, we have some questions for you, and Orlando's like, who the fuck is this and ignores Cariesy fully, and I'm on his side, like you can't you question a little bit later?

I don't know.

I don't like the attitude. And Finn just told you this is his childhood friend, so sit your asss down. Fucking Staten Island. So he blames Twitter and stalkers and he's like, there's so many fucking stalker's man, and Cresey's like, well, we heard from your neighbor that you fight a lot, and you just fought before you left, and He's like, I never laid hands on my wife, and Caresy pushes, then, why did the cops show up twice for domestic abuse

Finn responds, come on.

Cuz, and then somber music plays with the background of a heart monitor, so it's a really a collab the between the heart machine and some tunes, and so then Orlando is sad and walks over to his wife, but not before pushing Finn a little bit with his shoulder, and Creasy then decides to question Finn about their relationship and Rollins that little starfucker is just like, holy shit, you know, snake, and I just love how consistent she is throughout her tenure.

Finn says they haven't seen each.

Other since they were sixteen, but Cresy is still like, sure, but you don't think he did it. And they all decide like, let's just go talk to a mirror the paparazzi, So they leave Rollins at the hospital and they run to La Central Restaurant. So this guy is such a greasy little meatball and I love him, and he.

Goes, ah, I was paid off. I'm fine with it.

And Finn's like, your face looks crazy, though, and he goes whatever, I don't care. I just hope Dallas is okay. Her face is prettier than mine. And then he digs you think Snake's the one who beat her up, and he's like, I wouldn't you know, wouldn't shock him? You never know how temper erupts. Finn is like he was on stage during the attack, and the paparazzi. Meatball goes sure, and OJ was in Chicago. Finn asks for proof from the paparazzi and the pap says he's a celeb. People

So then the.

Paparazzi sees a celebrity and you know, little Meatball goes and runs, and so then the Sinfoto's playground is a place where you smash stuff, so it's like an escape room, but instead of escaping, you smash.

I've only seen these on reality shows.

I've never heard a person go to one or seen one in person. I've only seen them go on various casts like The Housewives, and I think the VPR people went to one, like I would do it.

I would do it, Yeah, I definitely would. And I don't think this is wrong, like I if it keeps you in check, like I don't think this is a sign of criminality. So we hear Finn to an employee in the darkness behind that's smashing things and people really pay for this, and the workers like it's cheaper than a shrink. You smash and you scream and you know, and so they get more scoop.

So there's deluxe rooms.

You get a dummy, and you can get Donald or Hillary.

She says, So this is very of the times.

And of course they record everything and they want to see snake surveillance. And he's beating up a dummy and he's calling the dummy Dallas and screaming I'll kill you Dallas.

So not that good.

But Crasy's like, you still think he's innocent, And we cut to Orlando kissing her forehead As male detectives arrive, Orlando says, you find the fuckers that did this, and Ice is so cold and goes stand up as he Jingle's handcuffs.

He stands out, I don't really understand how footage of him beating up a dummy gets you a warrant for this, right, it's like very SVU like jumping to whatever they want to do.

It's it's not real because we've seen episodes where they have so much evidence and they can't do anything.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

So someone at in a place where you're the whole point is to hit things, you're not doing anything outside of the norm of a legal establishment, right, and you're not.

Yeah, yeah, foolish. This was foolish.

So he stands up and says, uh, you talk to a mirror and Creasy goes yeah, and we talked to the smashroom place, and he goes, come on.

So then he goes, it's mistake.

It's not how it looks, and then he says dead ass,

Come on.

Orlando's like, yeah, and last week I died in a car accident and gets up and pushes his chair and screams, it's all lies. Finn is like, oh, you gotta hit me like you hit her, and he says, get up

A long time.

She slaps his ass hard. They go talk in private. She is fuming. She says, I took you in for six months when your mama died. Yeah, you definitely need to be off this case. Finn, I agree with everyone here. He says, I love you, and she still guilts him.

How could you?

How could you arrest my baby without as much of a phone call. He's family to you. Where is your loyalty? You really believe my child could do this. I'm his mama, and I gotta do something. Finn says, listen, if you want to do something, tell me what's going on with Justin and Dallas? Like she goes, they're married. Okay, So she sits down and then she explains, and Justin first made it the red fraft would never leave him alone, but Dallas changed all of it.

She cleaned him up good.

And Finn pushes and now and she's like, I don't get to see my baby as often as.

I would like. You know, she's the superstar.

So what she says goes, but he would never raise a hand to that girl, and she has perfect gray curls.

Finn says it doesn't look good.

For him right now, and she cries and pleads that he has to fix this. He owes them. She grabs his face and says, you owe me. He looks down and says, listen, go take care of Lexi and I'll call you. Stone and Benson are spying on that conversation too, and Stone definitely wants him off the case. Benson breathes deep,

Have we ever heard that story before? Is this the first time we're hearing that in season twenty? I feel like I didn't know that.

I didn't either.

I'm trying to think what we learned during the ludicrous episodes. But yeah, that seemed like he was more about like him and his wife and like, oh, yeah, you know, and less about his parents, like so interesting. Yeah, I just was wondering if you had a memory, because I don't, but I'm sure someone will message and let me know.

Benson says, I'm so sorry. And then so Joe took him in.

So she took Finn in until his grandparents moved from Fayetteville to take care of him, which is really like cool for the grandparents because in most cases that you'd have to be a kid leaving and you'd go live with your grandparents. So it's cool that his grandparents came to keep his life consistent. But also, wasn't his dad still alive? Yes, we could stay with his dad probably too. They were just probably moving to help the dad. Yes, yeah,

Yeah. The dad's a drug dealer though, right.

So maybe it's I don't know, was not an option, not a suitable home?

Yeah, Benson leans in. That doesn't mean you can cover for snake phone buzzes.

Who is it? Benson answers, and it's Rollin.

She's on her way to meet her because Dallas is awake and they're gonna keep Snake in the cage, so.

They're at the hospital.

Dallas says, he has never laid a hand on me, and she has an all around bandage on her head, so that's a really elite SVU club. Congrats, congrats baby, you make an around the head bandage look incredible, Sleigh, she says, yeah, me and Justin got into a fight before he left, but like, who fucking cares? She says, someone else did this to me and I could prove it. She explains that after Justin left, she was facetiming with

She breathes deep.

She is beautiful and she just so what she remembers is she got off with the phone with her mom and went to bed, and then she heard something downstairs. She thought it was Lexian Wallace, so she went downstairs and next thing she knew, there was a man standing in her room.

He was wearing a mask and gloves.

She ran to get the gun from behind the bar, but he just hit her and hit her and hit her. She breaks down in tears, crying. Benson asks if she was rape. She cries harder and says, I don't know.

You know.

I know we're famous, but we're just people. It's part of the deal we make with the world.

I guess.

Benson says, nobody deserves what happened to you. She says, well, there's a whole world on Twitter that disagrees with you.

Rollin's asks what.

She means, and she's basically explains that Snake and RB Banks are in a dis war, so they said dis if you'd like to take a drink, take a hit, eat a jellybean. This is her moment. So they bad mouth each other and they're wraps. It's good for pr and sales, she says. But we're all good, like we all are fine. But the fans take it too seriously. The nurse, an actual true advocate for the victims, goes, why don't we let her rest?

I think her brain just came back to life. Chill up.

So Benson runs to tel Finn about the Old Folks home, confirming the call with her mother. Great news, your friend is not a woman beater. Cut him loose, but the damage has been done. He gets released and Finn says, Snake, you didn't do it, and Orlando goes, yeah, I appreciate you again. Why would they arrest him a good friend from just a video like it from a smash place. I will never get over it. Finn is trying to be friendly now and offering a ride. Orlando was done.

That hurts Finn.

Benson is walking around when Rollins flags her down to share some Twitter scoop. Something was posted on her page two weeks ago. So it's a video of baby Lexie and she's dancing and you know, having a good time, spinning around, and in the background, Snake is fucking around with the security system and if you put it on slow motion you can see him pressing the code and like the buttons. So fuck You know, two hundred thousand plus people liked the video, so it could be one

Okay, that's not chill so but it's rap lyrics.

RB Banks dropped that last week and he liked the video of Lexi dancing. So we're gonna go meet up with RB Banks. Rapper diswar in the community, not really happy with Dallas And who is RB Banks?

It's Snoop dogg Snoop.

Dog, the hardest working man in the world, stoner hero.

I would say Martha Stewart's best friend.

Honestly, I haven't heard a bad thing about him, so, I mean, I guess.

I guess he was arrested for.

Murder back in the nineties, but I don't think he was convicted, was.

He I didn't know murder was the case that they gave him. That's what he says. What do you mean that's one.

Of his lyrics. Murder is the case that they gave me. But like, I didn't I thought that was all just like posturing. I guess I don't know my Snoop history.

No, like it is really cool. I mean, ice is in this category. Ice Cube is in this category Snoop like starting with gangster rap and ending up on like cookbooks, children's movies, the box. Yeah, yeah, it's really cool to see gangst has grown up.

So I love that. Yeah, I think I have three lines going.

I love him so much, truly, I love Snoop Like it's really fucked up. So he's in a recording studio and right away he tells Chrisy and Rollins that bitch got what she deserved. Not nice, and they're like, you know, we're cops, right, and he goes, I don't care.

I didn't have done anything. Rollins says, well, what about the dis war.

That's humiliating Rollins, I would have fought and been like, I can't say this line out loud.

They bring up the.

Taylor Swift thing and he justifies it, saying that Snake accused him of having a ghost writer, and Cariasey's like, where were you a babe, and he's like, I was home all night and the doorman can vouch for me, and that's that. And then he straight up says to them beat it. So we're at the precinct. Benson arrives with good news the rape kit came back negative. Finn says, thank god for the little things. Sone is the dumbest man alive, walks in with the paper and goes, why

Stone?

There were paparazzi right outside the minute she was getting taken out in a stretcher.

It's just like, he's so dumb. How are you alive? How are you a lawyer?

They're both giantly famous, Like I can't even deal with it, like obviously in old episode's like Stranger where it's like a minor kidnapped six sex slave? Fuck, why is this on the papers? That makes sense? Why are the two biggest celebrities? I just hate him? I hate him. He's trying to point fingers at the squad, and they're like, what about the Grammys?

Why don't you go point at them? Like shut up.

Finn sees the paper and says, fuck, I hope Snake doesn't do anything stupid. So we get to Banks studio asap because they're scared, like there's gonna be the dis war is gonna be turned into a real physical war. And Benson and Finn are in a black car spying. Dallas is still in the hospital and Joe and Lexi are there with her. Snake saw the paper and took off is what we you know the scoop And it's like, isn't Snake the one who knows the tabloids are lies?

He's pissed, he's embarrassed, a lot of things. So we're here.

Banks walks out of a studio, eight people behind him. An escalade drives by and they all stopped. Tons of escalades, tons of men, guns are out. Snick comes out and asks Banks to trying to take me out, and then Banks is like, you fucking with me? I don't know, I don't know what they're saying, but like, oh, you're here to take me out.

So they both are trying to take each other out.

I don't know what to tell you, and then snoop and admits to it and says that bitch got what she deserved and takes ownership of the crime. He escapes Rollin's grip runs at Snoop. A few people have to stop him. Benson is on Snoop trying to relax him. I'm wondering at the end of the workday, who smoked weed with Snoop Dogg.

Or in the middle of the work day.

I mean, I worked on something with Snoop Dogg where he was just smoking weed in the hallways.

Like the whole time. I'm not talking about Snoop smoking weed. That is a given.

I'm saying I don't think Benson would smoke during the workday. Oh no, no, so what I wonder if she would smoke after? Well, that's what I'm asking. Who do you think smoked with Snoop at.

The end of the day. I don't think it's Benson. I don't think it's Rollin's.

I don't know.

Maybe Corina, Yeah, maybe Scanavino. I feel like Finn I feel like I feel like Hargate would smoke weed with Snoop.

Maybe.

Well, if we meet, if we get to talk to Ice Tier or Marishka or Peter, we have to remember to ask this. We will ask Casey write a note we need if we get any of the leads, we need to know who smoked with Snoopy know, yeah, I kind.

Of love it.

You think, yeah, not even Warren Light But yeah, Warren wasn't around. I wonder who, Oh we should ask? Oh we should ask our friend that wrote on this season. Didn't he write on the season or DM him? DM him? Maybe by the entry bye when it airs, we'll get it. If you think have an idea, let us know. So the cuffs are on banks, Benson drags him off. Snake is, you know, staring into the distance. He's upset and we

Maybe you need a Q tip. She's like, my ears are fine.

And you confess to a crime and he corrects her, No, I confess to what I said.

In my wraps.

She does not like this. He says, no way I beat her. But his alibi does suck. The video from the building confirmed that you weren't home the night of the attack, and he really doesn't want to share his true alibi. Obviously he's cheating on his wife, so that's what's happening. He would rather admit to cheating than go to Rikers obviously, and then he goes, come on, you're trying to ruin my happy home. But he writes down the name of the bit he's cheating with. So Dallas

It's not him, and it's like, who the fuck did this?

But Finn on the way out sees Lexi playing video games his passion. So that's really sweet, and they have like a little, a little moment, and she says that she plays with Grandma Joe a lot because daddy is not really here that often. Okay, she's spilling everything's fin and also the little girl Lexi says that mommy told him to kick his mom out. Interesting, So she's playing video games with grandma Joe until the dad kicked her out. So we head out to West one hundred and thirty

What happened?

Of course, money, She's scared that Justin's gonna piss it all away if she's not holding the string, so any like, she's in charge of everything, and he goes, well, didn't he buy you a place? She goes, I was ten years ago and needed fixing up, and so she usually she just writes to the business manager, who writes her a check.

And she got a check for.

Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the fixing the updates some HGTV moments and she found and so Dallas found out and was mad and she and like the grandma, Joe wanted more money and Dallas refused, and she's like, what the fuck, that's my baby's money. But she didn't want to bring it up to Justin. And she didn't want to start any trouble and that's that. But this episode is silly. I don't know why she would spill all these beans. So Finn is depressed at his desk,

Is that a contractor?

I don't know, because there's no contractors under that name in the city. But they're gonna go to the vic Lewis that they found an address for. And Finn wants to go alone, but Rollins is coming. Whether he likes it or not. They have to fancy meeting you hair, so silly. One hundred and thirty sixth Street, April twenty fourth. Let's go wait, this is actually stretching a long time. Oh no, it just aired me a second. I was like,

She was backstage.

The manager invited her to Snake's hotel room and she needed cash to start this place.

So done and done.

She got to Joe because she couldn't get close to Snake, and she offered a bunch of money to keep quiet. Finn and Rollins make eye contact, and now we're at a bowling party. He denies cheating to Finn and Joe is right behind him and they're like, so, why is your mom playing the paying this white woman a ton of money for nothing? Rollins says the photo of Vicky on her phone and flashes it, and he says it

The Prince were hers. It's her gun.

But she got this gun illegally because ballistics popped off on an old crime. And the old crime is an unsolved murder of a gangsta named Malik Harper. Finn says thank you, but the music playing suggests there's more to this story.

The captions say it's foreboding music.

If that means anything to you, Finn looks suspicious and runs off. Finn is at an Irish wooden bar talking to a retired cop who doesn't remember anything or any particular corpse.

Finn's trying to get info from him, like mor photos, this that.

Any and the cop goes, you know people cops that are haunted by old, unresolved cases. Well I'm not one of them. So Finn is like, so you never gave a damn He goes, listen, I didn't have enough get damned to give. He's like, can you just please help me? Here's an address, like just think. He goes, oh my god, this address is right above eleanor his best ribs in the city. They tore it down about six years ago, so now he remembers the ribs.

Were that good. He remembers the man being shot.

So what he remembers is the girlfriend works the counter at the rib place, and when the news broke about Maleik, she threw ribs at him.

So that's kind of funny.

So there's no name, but it was a crazy white chick and she was pregnant. And so I think we're starting to put some stuff together, hopefully, unless you're not, and I'll continue talking. Benson's trying to leave the office, but Rollin says something that can't wait. She says that she dove deeper into Dallas's socials check it out. So there's always a bike in the background of some photos, so not always just a few photos.

And so it's a bike. It's the same bike.

And then Careesy remembers the bike from the beginning of the episode, the mongoose that belonged to the Lookie Lou and so, okay, what's going on here? So the Lookie Lou is Andreas Harper. Hello, Malie Harper, there's a connection. Fit is upset and I'm super emo and walks around without sharing anything with the group. As Andreas is an interrogation and he maintains that he had a delivery down the block and once he saw the cops and you know, he heard it with Snake in Dallas, he needed to

And so then Benson also is like.

Well, if you're such a big fan, why were you at the apartment with his wife. If you were a real fan, you would have been at the concert. And he's looking mad at her and she's like, straight up, you were there for Dallas and he shouts back, I was there for Snake. Benson fights back, this isn't my first time with stalkers, Okay, I've seen them all, the sad guy, the psychopath. So which one are you? What happened?

Back off.

The acrylic nails in the sky are wagging, and that is that's the.

Scene and the scene.

Finn looks confused, but it's like come on, dude, So like she's not gonna help put her child in jail. So now Finn is in jail to talk to Andreas, and he's like, the lawyer told me not to talk to any cops. And he also is an orange cool jacket, Like, I've never seen a prison jacket before, but it's like pretty nice cold day. I guess cold day in April. Yeah, I just have never seen prison issued coats.

I don't think. I guess orange is the new black.

They had coats, yeah, so I just think pretty fashion forward for a prison. So he convinces Andreas to talk to him because he gets it because he saw his mom get shot in front of a bodega and the story connects with him. So Andrea swallows aggressively and is down to chat with him.

Now.

He asks the Finn got revenge, and he's like, they killed my mom, the person I cared about most. I wanted him to feel the same pain as I did. Killing him wasn't enough, and Andreas cuts him off. He should have suffered, she she should have died, he yells, so Dallas, Dallas. Finn asks Andreas, answers he would have hurt. Then it wouldn't have been enough, but he would have hurt. Solemn music begins to play. Andreas walks back inside after

He says, he wouldn't know.

So Finn brings up Malik Harper, and Snake says, damn, i'ven't heard that name.

In a minute.

Finn goes, well, yeah, he got shot dead about eighteen years ago. Tough break, Snake says, while drinking out of a matte black mug. Cool, Finn tells a story about Yusef So thirty years after he killed his mom, he got a call to one hundred and twenty seventh Street that there and there he was stretched out on the concrete, two in the back of the head. And so Finn didn't want to solve the crime because he was a

And that's dick wolf baby.

I gotta say this episod so just has like a few weird holes for me, Like it's just a very confusing episode. It's hard to connect the dots, like, so Andrea's killed, Andrea's never met his father. I understand, like that's hard to grow up without a father, but like, I don't know that you would feel the pain of missing someone that you've never met before enough to like risk your entire future to attack Beyonce.

Basically, do you know what I'm saying?

Like it's not all coming together for me? And then when did Vic fuck Snake after she had Andreas and she just needed the money for the salon? Yeah, it must have been like deca a decade later, She's.

Like, I'll just soot the guy that killed my baby daddy to get money for my salon.

I don't think that's real. I don't think the fucking is real. I think she threatened Joe. I think she was like, give me money, killed my husband, got it? This is his baby, yeah, got it, even if it's not the death.

But it's like, this is her baby.

And I also wonder if Andreas wouldn't care as much who his dad was if it wasn't someone famed.

Yeah, like, I see you live in the life and you killed my dad and like left me without a dad.

Yeah, but the mom the crazy White Chicks seemed not involved, not visiting your son in prison, just out living her life. I also don't get how Finn put it together to even ask Joe the warrant with the smashroom.

This episode is just disjointed but great.

Also, like another cop brought Finn the ballistics report, like that gun popped on another murder and it was found in their house.

Someone has to investigate that. That's not just gonna go away and.

Like Finn walking away and letting his pal get away with something, because like that doesn't feel like Finn at all, not to mention, it's reminding me of this current season where Benson is like Velasco, go find your old buddy from Mexico and make him pay for his crimes.

Like I just feel like all of them makes that justice.

Yeah, but then I'm gonna let Betty Buckley, you know, get away with yeah exact.

I guess there might not have been proof on that one, but yeah, yeah, the moral stances feel like they're wooh like really up and down.

But yeah, A good.

I also so, I mean Andreas committed the crime, but I don't want him to do that much time.

I know he has to.

I wonder if it would be attempted murder or assault and battery, like maybe you only get a few years for that. I don't know, no, because if he I mean a bike lock to the head and breaking even dead, like you do deserve to go to jail. Yeah, I feel bad for your circumstances, but I love I'm team Dallas. Yeah, but also, why does like the woman have to I don't know, why does the woman have to suffer for something that her guy did, like get attack him, make him feel pain, like she didn't do anything.

To your dad. Well, it's kind of like manipulated too.

Where they're first seeing is like, oh, someone's trying to get to her by destroying her husband, you know, right right, Yeah, people are up too, not my hobby, not my hobby, fucking people's lives up through murder and revenge.

Well, I have some interesting factoids coming up, so listen to these brief messages and we'll be right back.

Okay, we're back.

So obviously Dallas and Snake seemed to be roughly based off of Beyonce and jay Z. You could even make the argument that the Venetia thing is like the whole Rihanna rumor when he was working with Rihanna and everyone thought they were sleeping together, and that's allegedly what led to the whole Solange elevator thing, but Snake had.

I thought the elevator thing was Becky with the good hair. Rachel Roy.

Oh, I thought it was Rihanna. Maybe I'm wrong now it was Rachel Roy.

But I actually have inside it was really going on from someone that works at deaf Gym that I know.

Oh wow, Well you can tell me later if you can.

But the I thought it was because Rihanna was going to be at a party they were going to, and so Launch flipped out and was like, why would you have her here?

Like Rachel Roy?

Okay, because then everyone got Rachel Roy and Rachel Ray confused that beehives started attacking Rachel Ray on Instagram.

Well, I didn't think that Rachel Roy shit came out until Lemonade with Becky with the good Hair. But obviously I don't know what's going on. But Snake also has

Say about What did he say about jay Z in the dis track?

I think just like he's tired, like lame, you know, like in early Beefs he makes fun of jay Z having a Lexus with TVs and he's like, that's the bare minimum that you should have, like you should like as soon as I heard jay Z rob about that, I got rid of my lexus, Like you need to have more than that. That's like bear or something like that. I was reading about. So I don't know the exact uh. I didn't write down the exact diss is from Ether.

Wild.

Jay Z did call in and apologize to his mother and any female listeners who we might have offended with the lyrics. So yeah, So then they call a ceasefire for a couple of years, and then in two thousand and five they reconcile publicly in front of a sold out crowd in New Jersey for jay Z's I Declare War tour. They perform Dead Presidents and the world is yours, and jay Z said, all that beef shit has done.

So another case.

That I feel like this episode could be based on is Kim Kardashian's Paris robbery because in the episode, when Snake hears the news, he goes shows over family emergency.

This is basically identical to what.

Happened to Kanye when he found out that his then wife Kim Kardashian had been robbed in Paris. He was performing in New York City at the Meadows Music and Arts Festival and someone came up to him and told and he goes, I'm sorry, there's a family emergency.

I have to stop the show. So it's pretty much ripped right from that.

And I feel like we all heard about this, but I'll just recap it because there was some facts I found out about this crime that I did not know about.

This is going to happen. And she pleaded for her life.

She was pleading to the concierge because she didn't know, like she didn't speak French, and she was like, tell them I have a family, Tell them I have a husband, please, like pleading for her life with them. They threatened her with the gun, They tied her up, They forced her into a bathtub with tape over her mouth and then tape over her eyes. And the last thing she saw before they put tape over her eyes was them holding

So it kind of is in line with most robbery movies. It's always these old guys.

They're getting out of jail and they want one last cash grab, Like every robbery movie, even the robbery SVU episodes.

Are old men.

Yeah, it's like Ocean's eleven, but like, yes they're older, Like.

Robert DeNiro was in one of these.

I think we're in like their grandpa gangsters are doing the bit because you need a lot of skills, yes, but you know, I am sure.

You're going to talk about this.

But so many people thought this was fake because it's Kim Kardashian and their show. Everything's produced, And I know one of those suspicions was like where was her personal security? Like, yeah, I think that was like one thing where it's like, don't you have security with you? Where were they? But

It seems an assistant was there. I'll get to that.

But so basically, five years later, in twenty twenty one, twelve men were indicted and were to be tried for robbery with a weapon committed in an organized gang, kidnapping, enforceable confinement or criminal association. One of the guys, so, now one of the guys, this guy who's sixty seven years old, his name is Eunice A Boss, was one

This person after twenty two months?

I don't know, and because the reason they found him is because he left DNA at the scene when he subdued the concierge and he's a criminal in the system, so they found his ass quick as hell.

And he even said that, he goes, oh, yeah, I left my DNA. They found me really quick because I'm a criminal. So they let him out after twenty two months. He's like, fully gonna do something like this again.

He's not sorry.

Why would you bet. You know, we just covered the fucking that monster. They might they have a more lenient system than.

We do over here. Yeah.

They asked him like to like, don't you think she was traumatized? And he goes, oh, yeah, sure, of course, of course she'd be traumatized, of course, but he had no feeling about it, like, no guilt at.

All, and please he's self aware. I don't know. Yeah.

Well, we also found out that Kim Kardashian, I'm a boss fan unice of boss for president Lisa love them. We also found out that Kim Kardashian's assistant made the mistake of calling nine to one one, which in France doesn't do anything that is not the emergency number in France, so French police weren't notified immediately, and that's left the gang more time to escape. So they did get away, but then of course they were all like, they were

Snapchat is where they got all this information.

And this vice reporter pointed out and goes, if a nearly seventy year old man can figure out how to target one of the world's most famous people using snapchat, she goes, I don't think any of us have any hope.

So but they inspired criminals all over the world.

This Kim Kardashian attack was kind of like one of the first major influencer robberies, and it inspired all these criminals all over the world to target wealthy influencers by using their social media to like gather clues.

So, Kim Kardashian, I'm not giving it to these guys. This is the Bling ring. We learned this in the Bling Ring. Well, the blame ring is a little bit different because those people became friends with them, didn't They get like invited to their parties and shit, and that's when they would case the area.

Nah, you got to watch the three part doc oh okay.

I thought that they were like young kids that kind of would hang out at the parties and then steal shit or like then break into their houses when they knew they were on vacation.

Now that's the thing. It was breaking in when the people were gone. But it is like using your social media to know your full schedules and know when to rob your ass.

Yeah, so bling ring.

But maybe these guys brought it more to the internation because Kim Kardashian was just wasn't so huge.

This is just coming back to me when this case broke. I remember hanging out with someone that was like, yeah, there's so new money. Real rich people don't wear their real diamonds like I guess old money. They all have fakes that they wear. Well, Kim learned her lesson.

Apparently after this happened, she went into hiding for three months and then re emerged and immediately went to Ellen as you do after a trauma, and she told the talk show.

I did did Ellen play a little trick on her, make her think she's about to get kidnapped on the stage. Yeah, Like did she come out dancing to a Kanye song like hey babe, straddling her little coffee table.

It is fucked. I am bad.

I'm like one of the bad people in the episode diss where I'm like because of Kim's status, I'm like more detached from her or like where I'm like I have whatever, I'm tiama boss Like it is fucked.

Like she is. Yeah, she is a person.

Yeah, And you know, so she did go on David Letterman and have this like hard to heart with him where she is very upset, Like when people talk about this being staged again, it's like when people talk about the Scandal all stuff being staged. These people are not good enough actors. There is absolutely no way Kim Kardashian is a good enough actor to cry the way she cries in these interviews talking about this experience.

If it was fake, I'm sorry. I don't give that to her.

She has one line in Paw Patrol movie and it's not good, So I can't imagine that she's good at this. So she said to Ellen quote, I know this sounds crazy, but I know that was meant to happen to me. I am such a different person, she says. I just don't care about that stuff anymore. I don't care to show off the way that I used to.

Like.

She was very obsessed, she said, with being in the mix, like showing everything she was doing, and now she's like during the Keeping Up with the Kardashians reunion in twenty twenty one, she said, quote, no expensive items ever come to my home. I have it all taken from security before I even enter my home. I can't sleep if I have jewelry in my safe or money or anything at my house. I just don't live my life like that,

So this really changed.

And apparently she doesn't post in real time anymore, like she'll save she'll take photos and then save them and post after she's left a location.

She has really like.

Some of the articles I was reading was like, yeah, you can notice after that she goes to the met ball in like a really scaled down dress, like the like the year or two after well before Marilyn like in the just the direct aftermath of this happening, Like they said, she went really like much more simple with her fashion and stuff, and I think was trying to like live more simplistically for a Kardashian or whatever.

But that's that's the story on that.

I just like, I think I knew most of that, but I just didn't know that it was like this gang of oldies, and I didn't know that most of them have like been tried and gone to jail and are out already.

Like crazy.

Yeah, I wonder if the guys got out early because of COVID or something they got rid of like kind of more nonviolent crimes or something like that.

People that were in jail to violent, right, but they didn't. It was emotionally violent for her for sure.

So that's that on that.

But no, you have it's kind of like the story we talked about with the engagement kidnapping, where it's like, no, I think he's tying someone up and holding them hostage.

Is physical for sure, for.

Sure, Yes, absolutely violent, But like I'm glad they didn't pistol whip her, you know what I mean, Like I feel like they could have done a ton of damage to her.

And like, now these are classic robbers. They're not interested in that.

Yeah, yeah, they're not taking the time to like, yeah, inflict.

I'm shocked there's no movie made yet about it. But because I don't believe Dorie in her robbery, and Andy Cohen was like, Dorrit is not a good actress. Yeah this is this happened, and he's like appalled. People think it's fake. But I think Teddy's husband being in charge of their insurance security. Yeah, just there's like a lot of things that don't make it. And then this is a fucked up theory about Dori, but that her husband did it without telling her and he knew what was going to happen.

That's beyond fucked up it is. But they're all scam artists.

I mean, look, like what that's what's crazy, Like scandival is so shocking to us, and the lies and the deceit and all of that. But they're all fucking criminals from coast to coast of that of the housewives.

They say criminals. It is the age of the scammer. It is the age of the of the criminal. Truly, I just wouldn't put it past them. I guess that's my point. I wouldn't put it past these people.

I don't have any any tensions or any good thoughts on these people.

I thought Duraid's thing was fake. I really did, because I was like, why'd they leave your cell phone? Like I don't really There was a few things where I was like, this doesn't make sense to me.

But you know, I agree with Andy, she can't be that good.

No, I'm wee being appalled by people who were not sympathetic to Kim at the time.

I remember being like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

I like, could that's I mean, it's just like when someone reaches such a level of fame. I remember thinking like, oh my god, this is like a movie. How is that possible? But you're right, like where was her personal security? It sounds like an assistant was nearby that called nine one one by accident and like there, but there wasn't like a guy right outside her room all night.

Like I don't get that. So especially if like a concierge has a key.

It's like, anyway, we do have a fantastic guest, so don't go anywhere, okay, guys, our guest today is not only an actor but also a former Beverly Hills High School student body president. You'll know her from her work on past shows such as The Carmichael Show and Happy Together. You can also see her in The Amazing Spider Man and twenty two Jump Street. She's currently a lead in the stars comedy Run the World. But you know we're today as the glamorous pop star Dallas Monroe. Guys, enjoy

This is amazing, Thank you for having me. Yeah.

I mean I first, like I know your work from like Carmichael's Show, and like all these comedies that you've been in, Like we have a friend that wrote on the current show that you're on, so like we are fans, but this feels like such a different kind of thing for you from what I've seen you do. I'm sure you've done drama or whatever, but this felt like a departure. So how did this come to you? They just like threw you an SVU or were you like to your agents? I'd love to be on an SVU? Like what how

I got a phone call and they said, hey, they've got this part and they thought of you for it.

Are you interested? And I said, yeah, I mean it was very it was very cool.

I read it obviously and like double checked that it was something that seemed fun for me. But basically the role was like you're a big pop star and then you're injured. So I was like, I'm done. That sounds cool. And then we like made a music video.

Well yeah, well wild SVU start if I've ever seen one, because it's scary, dramatic, very realistic. Oh no, what's going to happen? And then a real kooky turn for us. I've ever seen anything like it.

How did you feel being so glamorous with the with the guns? I guess Oh.

God, it was funny. It was funny to rehearse all of it. Was funny to dance on top of a car and those heels. Was funny to.

Dance while holding guns and like make it look sexy with a wing that went down to my waist.

It was fun. It was a good time. It was a I.

Didn't realize, you know, I don't know what they're doing and they're behind the directors have in mind how they're going to shoot one into the other. But yeah, that false start is quite a surprise I think for the audience.

Well, yeah, because I had the same feeling like I haven't with her, uh like with little relling get out where the you know, the cop shows up and right away like or the TSH, but the like pit in your stomach where you're like, oh no, what's about to happen?

What horrible start of this SVU? And then glitter, Yes, like a very fun and then Beyonce. Yeah, was there a wind machine?

No, there was no wind machine, but those were live actual like fire whatever you call those fire rotechs.

Yeah, pyrotechnics. That was real.

Yeah. Did you have to learn choreo?

I did. I had to learn choreo. They didn't show a lot of it. I'm not a great dancer. They didn't know that when they hired me. So it was more just a lot.

Of like body rolling with guns, yeah, and rolling around on the hood of a car.

But there was a choreographer. She was very cool and.

I and you know, help me try to learn how to dance and heels on top of a slanted.

Roof of a car like truly not I think what any actor thinks they're going to be doing when they agree to an SVU.

Not at all, to be like in a sparkly mini dress, just getting down.

Not at all.

Were you channeling your inner Beyonce? I mean it feels very Beyonce.

Obviously, of course I was, of course.

But then quickly you're in a pool of blood, which is.

Very you know, typical. Yeah, yeah, that's what that's what we come for. We don't come to the Beyonce dance, you know. It's a little fun thing to put in there.

But yeah, well, outside of laying in the blood, you also joined a very select few esteemed actors of SVU where you had a full.

Around the head bandage. Yes, I did cool.

Thing too, Yes, close around the head bandage. That whole scene of me laying in a bed. They're like, you have a head injury, so you can't really like move your body, and so they shot it. I look freaking crazy, and that whole shot.

It's just like a whole.

Double chin shot really close to my head because I couldn't move my head. That was a that was a challenge actually, And then Marishka's just sitting at the foot of the bed and they're like and cry and I'm like, no pressure, don't move your body or do anything, and have like, you know, the leads of the show staring at you, waiting for you to kill it.

You did kill it, though, I mean you had me feeling bad for the celebs that we harass all the time.

Good good, I'm glad. I was like, they are just people.

She's right, But we always we do like to ask how long were you in the blood?

Was that a long laying in the blood scene?

Or no? It was quick? Was it was quick? So this? When did we shoot this? Like four years ago? Right?

Yeah?

Trying to remember there was four seasons ago, so that sense with COVID give or take, I think it was like twenty nineteen.

Probably sounds right because I had my boobs look especially lovely in that opening scene because I was still breastfeeding because I had a new baby at the.

Time, and my mom came to New York with me with the babe.

It was the first time we'd ever traveled with her, So that sounds about four years ago.

So I'm trying to remember all this stuff.

I'm saying all this to say that it's been a while since this experience, but from what I remember, I was not in the head bandage blood for very long. I didn't have to have that breathing machine thing in my mouth for a little while though in the background of the scene.

Was that annoying hard?

Yeah, it actually was kind of uncomfortable in my mouth.

Wait, you mean when you're lying like face down with the head injury, they have you on like a breathing machine or wait, I.

Don't know, no, no, in the hospital, in the oh yeah, yes, when I'm in the car, they have me with the machine on my face, laying there and inventing.

A machine that you breathe into so that doesn't look like you're breathing.

I'm sorry, my back.

That doesn't.

Until I invent it.

Shark tank. Did you and Snoop ever cross paths?

We didn't.

But my mom, who was in the dressing room the whole time, was right next to him in his dressing room the whole time, smelling all kinds of contact hie getting the contact high, enjoying, enjoying her afternoon.

With the baby. But no, I never got to meet him because we never worked on this. Yeah, I gather anything.

Yeah, yeah, did you know that it was?

I mean, it is kind of obvious but did you know it was based a little bit on the Kim Kardashian Kanye kind of.

Begin wait what it is, Well, just.

The whisper and Orlando like leaving his concert. It was like Kanye being like family, like leaving the show when she was in Paris.

Yes, and like the concept of like the concept of like the of celebrities, like giving away too much information on social media and then getting like, you know, attacked or whatever.

Yeah, totally.

Yeah, so that's like the characters are clearly based on Jay Z and Beyonce as well, Like there's multiple multiple cases here.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do remember being very impressed.

I don't know if you watch the episode closely, when they go into our house. The set design, they had the art department make these eight foot tall portraits of Orlando and I that are so beautiful. So I would pause and watch the episode again and look in the background. They're like these old eighteen hundreds looking portraits of the two of us, and I just wish.

I could have taken one home.

I thought that was really cool that they spent the attention to detail in the set design of our house.

They should have that you take one home.

Yeah, And also we did a photo shoot so they can have pictures in the house of us. So there's a picture above our bed of him behind me holding our pregnant my pregnant belly.

So we did a photo shoot where I put a belly on. Wow, we do.

So there's like fun little things like that. If you just look around in the house.

Oh yeah, I love it because that's definitely part of pop stardom.

Is you got shrines to yourself all over the house. I feel like, yep, yep.

They pay attention to every detail.

Yeah.

Well, with our little online research, you went to Beverly Hills High School?

I did, Yes, I was the president student body president of Beverly Hills High School.

Ex excuse me, political royalty.

Thank you very much, thank you for the acknowledgement.

What was that like? Did you have outside lockers? Were your lockers outside like on TV?

No, they were inside a lot of the campus. It gives you space to walk outside. So lunchtime, everyone sits out on this like a big grassy lawn, kind of like and clueless.

I don't know if you remember them walking around outside. Our high school was kind of like that.

Certainly, kids had a lot of fancy nice cars, you know, like for their sixteenth birthday they were getting BMW's.

Did not have a car. My parents did not buy me a car, but that was happening.

But it was a pretty multicultural school, and I really liked it because there was a public school, whereas you know, a lot of the really really rich kids and famous kids, they all their parents all put them in private schools.

So I still had like a.

It's still as a kind of I don't know, it's Kent's hard to say normal, but like as normal as you could be.

Yeah, we're like, are a lot of kids in the business like doing acting at the school, Like they let you out to go do No.

Not a lot.

No, it certainly is not uncommon. I mean that it happens. There was no you know, issues I was in when I was in high school. I was doing modeling and commercial acting just for fun on the side. And I didn't miss school very much for it because I could do auditions after school.

But if I booked something, I'd miss a day or whatever. It was never an issue. And there were there were some.

Other kids doing that, but not a lot, and certainly not a lot of kids with parents that were acting because again, those people put their kids in private school. But but a lot of people work in the industry. A lot of the parents work in the industry in other ways. I mean, that's what we do here in Los Angeles.

Yeah, not to You've mentioned your parents, And one of my favorite parts of this podcast is when I'm just researching people and I have this like, oh my god moment, I cannot believe your dad is Shadow Stevens. I like have been watching you on stuff forever and like never

The public schools a great school. I mean we lived in Beverly Hills. It was not like, you know, we weren't slumming.

It or anything.

No, exactly, but you know you're not like going to you know, you're not going to private You're not getting a car.

You know.

I did private school through sixth grade and then my parents were like, you're going to public school. But uh yeah they were. They certainly were not handing me anything. There was no like nepotism, pulling of cards to get me anywhere in my career whatsoever. The very practical people were. You know, you know how the business works. You're on top one day and then you're waiting for someone to

So yeah, yeah, grounded is the word I was looking for before when I saw Humble.

I mean ground yeah, yeah, a little grounded, yeah yeah yeah yeah.

So you have done like when you look at your IMDb, it's like comedies all over the place, and then now you're on this show called Run the World on Stars and correct me if I'm wrong. The Internet says season two is coming out May twenty six, so like very soon.

Yeah, my son's birthday, by the way.

Will wow, we'll be having to run the world themed two year old birthday party for a premiere.

But do you shoot that in New York? Yeah?

What's the story with that? Is that comedy? Is that like more dramaedy? Like what's the.

It's a half hour show, but I guess it could lean into dramaedy a little bit. It shoots in New York,

Yes, amazing. Yeah, And I would love to talk.

We always like to ask couples that are both actors. You and your husband do audition tapes together? Are you reading lines together? And are you fighting as you do it?

That is a very good question.

So yes, we do make self tapes together here in the room that I'm standing in. Actually this is our guest room, and we are really good partners with it. Actually we don't give each other too many notes. I think he knows better than to give me notes unless I ask, I give unsolicited notes.

Probably. I try to preface it with would you like an idea I have?

And he'll be like, yeah, sure, and then he'll probably argue with me why it's a stupid idea. But but we do do it together, and we've got a little system going, and it works well for us, thank god, because I don't know what we would do otherwise. Every once in a while he'll go to a service and have these guys help them do it if we just can't get the kids out of the house or whatever, or we can't schedule it otherwise.

But we do a good job together.

That's good to you. That's yeah.

I'm over it, though, and I'd really like to just go back in rooms and audition in front of humans.

That's what we keep hearing.

Yeah, yeah, that's why I moved to I moved to La December twenty nineteen, and I want audition for.

The people, meet the people, and then.

The universe said no, no, no.

But it happens.

And then did you guys you met on set of Greek and then did you wait or was it like, did you keep it secret?

Was it? Did everyone know?

So the show was a little bit of life imitating art because our characters on the show were secretly seeing each other. So I the show for people who don't know what it is.

We were.

It was a sorority show, and I was I think the president of the sorority at the time in.

The show, and we experience.

I do have experience, so that you know, they obviously thought of me for this part. So we get a guy to help clean the house or something. He's like the I can't remember what there's a term for it. But he came in to work in the house and then he and I have a fling with each other, but it's secret because I'm like sleeping with the help. So utairs, Yeah, a little up to a little downtown abbey.

Love it, yeah, and now you guys are basically Dallas and Snake right like in real life. That's very your very similar dynamic, very similar.

You know, huge mega stars.

No, it's nice to we're both in the business though, because we kind of understand what each other's jobs are and there's no like jealousy when someone's gone for a while or working with someone who's like super sexy or whatever.

You know, we understand what it takes to do this.

Gotcha, who's been the sexiest co star?

Oh, that's a good question. Let me think about that.

I mean, I didn't work opposite him, but like Channing's pretty sexy that he was fun to work with.

But you know that one we didn't like work together or anything like that.

My husband did an independent movie once with this really beautiful actress and they had to have a sex scene. And I just chose to not think about it too.

Much because I watch it and I don't think.

I don't think I ever watched the movie. I'm not like too jealous, but like, I don't need to see that. I did make a huge mistake once I did. I did this little movie and I was working with.

Oh my god, name just went out of my brain. Brian Greenberg.

Oh yo, he's he's a crush of mine. He's in the movie Prime.

Yes, exactly.

So he's very, very cute, and my character like hooks up with him. But I invited my husband to set one day and I was like, come and hang out because we were filming in Glendale, like down the street. And I get and he gets there finally during the day and we're about to start shooting the scene where I start to hook up with him, and he's got his hand on my pants and stuff. Andy's like, why did you invite me? Why why am I here right now?

So he didn't stay around for long.

There's an intimacy coordinator standing with a clipboard two feet away.

How sexy? Can it? R? Right? I want to watch this now.

Well, the movie is called The Kitchen. Okay, oh wait, you shall look it up. Okay, the Kitchen, the kitchen where the whole movie basically takes place in the kitchen at a party, at a house party.

Okay.

Oh oh, that's really a great idea.

Yeah.

So just following all the different people coming out in and out of the party and the relationships they have with each other, it's it's quite funny.

I love it. I love that because that's where everyone hangs out at a party.

Oh.

I also really wanted to ask you what it was like to be an American girl doll.

Oh my god, that was so funny that they asked me to do that. I was like, hell, yeah, I have them. I gave them to my daughters. I still had them, and I had Addie, So to be Addie was epic. That was a really fun day. That was a really funny, funny sketch.

I just went to the store for the first time with my friend's daughter.

It's really cool in there.

Wait where is it.

It's in New York.

I was just sitting New York bo there's like nineties dolls now, and so there's blow up furniture and pizza hut and like nineties stuff. So it's wow, yeah, that's hilarious.

Like I saw that, I go, I thought they were colonial, and she's like, we're old.

They're different now, they're different now. I know.

The coolest one when we were kids was Molly. She was like the most current and she was still like nineteen fifties or something.

Yeah.

Yeah, So I'm glad you liked that. I think.

Yeah, I can't wait to get in to Run in the World. I'm going to catch up before the second season.

I have no fun.

I don't know I want to. I'm going to catch up before the second season. I want to watch.

Oh please, it's a good time. It's a good watch.

I love friendship.

It's all about friendship.

Honest.

It feels like it's like a Sex in the City, like like living single kind of like fun modern.

That's exactly what it is, and is the is it fashion forward?

Very very fair.

It's the same costume designer as Sex in the City.

Really fields, yeah, oh wow, oh my god. Yeah, so you come for the fashion too?

Was a major city. Yeah, and so this is like, oh, oh my god.

Yeah, okay, then you need to watch this show is for you. It's amazing. She's incredible.

She's eighty years old and has the stamina of someone who's in her thirties and has so much creativity still. And then Tracy Alcox was working with her, and he's also a brilliant Yeah, because brilliant taste and they're just so creative. There's always like too many accessories and then we have to pare it down because that was like a glove and a hat and.

You know, of the moments.

But she did a great job of really creating each character. Just like Sex and the City, you can identify almost by their clothes without looking at their heads, like you know who's wearing what, and that characters are.

Like that too.

We've got our own identities and you can really see that in our in our costumes.

It's cool.

Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Amy.

I'm so glad to talk to you guys. It was a lot of fun.

What a little angel. She was so great.

Her dad being Shadow Stevens is like so wild to me. I feel like she was downplaying it, but he was like a big deal. He was a Hollywood square.

Listen, she's beautiful, she's talented, and she's kind and she.

Was a great pick. She was a great pick for that role. I'm like, you know, like just the beautiful hair, the beautiful the beautiful.

Face, the beauty well.

And it's like the best start of an episode of all time. I would say, there's never been such a fake out with SVU as this. Yeah, and I really appreciate it. Yeah, the trickery of it all and the choreo and the like gun dances.

Yeah, but it's snoop. I mean, overall, great episode.

I was like when I was looking up some of the reddits about this episode trying to see what people were saying about it, because I was really trying to like dig deep into like what it was based on, like because some people were like, oh, it's just jay Z and Beyonce, and then some people brought up the Kardashian things. I was really trying to see if there was anything else, like if there had ever been maybe two rappers where one of them had attacked another one's

But he did great.

Wait, I just watched something funny with I mean, when is Snoop not creating funny things first to watch? But I swear I just watched something viral that was making me laugh. But is my memory that bad? What's happened to me?

I don't know. Maybe well, maybe it was just like an Instagram video that you that you popped on.

It was I gotta get off the internet. I have to to get off the internet. I worked on a rain match for Snoop. I don't know if I've said this on the podcast, but I worked for when they did this. They did. Netflix has this thing called Laughing.

It's like the like a anniversary of the laugh in the show that like made Goldie Hawn a success and stuff.

It had Lisa and Walter.

It had all these people in it, and I'm in it nine months pregnant with Rosie. But I also wrote on it for a day or two, and I got to write this sketch with Michael Rappaport and Snoop and it.

Was like the High News.

It was like them doing like a little weekend update basically, but like all about weed stuff and Snoop was smoking weed the whole time.

It was crazy.

I mean, he's an icon, he's an idol. I'm obsessed with him. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what else to say.

Are you a rapaport guy? Are you a rap?

Do you like him because he likes the Housewives? But sometimes I think he turns people off?

He does. I I'm I'm into it.

I worked on with him, I was on Lights Out with him, and my thing is I love everyone that loves the Housewives. I love how passionate he and his opinions. I just don't like when I think Jerry O'Connell does this more. I don't like when men feel like they're so special and cool because they like something that women like. Yeah, Like, it doesn't make you difference. It's like, yeah, you like a good thing, but it's this where men who love

Know what you're saying.

But I do feel like our beloved Christmas party friend Jerry O'Connell, I do think he does that a little bit more than than the other guy does. But yeah, anyway, post mortem of this raps sport, like him and Sheena text and stuff.

Yes on, watch what happened? Like he is texting. He's in it also, you know, is it a chip on my shoulder? But like people who just do out of the blue are like.

I'm gonna do comedy.

Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's a little all right, but people love them whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, speaking of people who turned into stand up comedy. When I'm in Phoenix doing stand up this month, Anisha from Family Karma will be opening the shows.

Amazing. I wish I hang with her.

I wish I could come early and see and oh it's oh, you're staying, You're going after us? Yeah, I can't stay because I have these fucking kids I got to look after.

I would love if you ditched your kids for for for me and Anesia.

Yeah, we'll see.

Let's see other weeks going. Maybe if I can change my flight, that would.

Be fun to be in pool. Let's be in a pool.

Yeah, because my flight out of Tempe, you guys is at like five am.

It's not good. What did I learn this episode? Post mortem?

Baby?

Celebrities are people too, Yes, Like obviously they have money and privilege and cool stuff. But at the end of the day, like we all know as humans, those things don't always equal happiness or like ease, or that things don't affect you, or because she's a millionaire being attacked at gunpoint, it doesn't affect.

Her as much, you know.

Right, Like I think that we're in this like age of social media and fame where people are just like they completely forget that these people are people like Kim Kardashian, Like some people say she's like responsible for the downfall of the culture. I mean, people dislike her for a lot of different reasons. She did flaun her wealth a lot at that time, Like she was like, I don't know if she's the smartest person on the planet whatever.

I mean, like we shouldn't.

I don't think anyone should ever be wishing trauma on people like this, and like we'll we'll link to it.

But like the.

Interview with the thief, he was just so heartless and was like, oh, I'm sure she's traumatized.

Oh I'm sure.

Yeah, yeah, probably definitely traumatized, Like he did not care at all, but probably I guess because he knew he wasn't gonna physically hurt her. But but I also think that I'm I'm I'm glad that Kim Kardashian like saw had perspective on it and was like, I don't do x y Z anymore. I don't flawn, I don't keep real shit on me, I don't ever post in real time.

Lineer, and multiple things can be true, Like they could be culture vultures and not pay them like they could be they can do bad things and be doing bad stuff. But I don't I have a theory that like with celebrities, they're obviously rich and powerful, they really aren't compared to the people that really run this country and these mega

And I think it's like on purpose.

I think Hollywood people are like martyrs and like used as scapegoats for the actual evil people.

That's yeah, But you can see where a lot of people. You can see where Kim Kardashian is spending her money. You can see where like Beyonce is probably spending her money like she just actually bought I think one of the most expensive houses in California. But you can't see what the like, nobody's really paying attention to what like the Koch Brothers are spending their money on.

And like they're more evil, you know what I mean?

Like, yeah, that is true, and it's like these people are creating entertainment, music, fashion, whatever. Who like maybe they're void of any good human qualities, but like they are creating something that is for enjoyment and the money and they're doing a job. And then yeah, you think about these people on Epstein's Island and yeah, he's got were.

Like pharmaceutical the family that just was like living off of people's like addictions to opioids, you know.

And they get know what, we never are like talking about the top five hundred wealthy business people and the people that are you know, moving their factories overseas and exploiting labor and maybe Kardashian businesses are doing that, like I don't know where good American jeans are being made. But it's like but it is like, you know, we as a culture like so mad at like what these rich actors. It's like they are pushed into the line with Yeah, the evils are hidden so that's yeah, my lits.

I just believe that when people want to like talk, they're just the most front facing wealthy people. They're not the ones that are the worst, Like for sure.

Yeah, they're not lobbying for oil.

I mean these CEOs making two hundred and fifty million dollars a year, Like, I hate them more.

Yeah, I hope that guy's not posting where he is on Snapchat because I'm gonna find out.

No, but I hate that Kim Kardashian fucked with Marilyn Monroe's dress, Like I might never get over that. I think that's ludicrous. It's like it's museum. What are we doing here?

I can't believe it was allowed. I really can't believe it was allowed. Well, because Ripley's owned it. It wasn't like the Smithsonian.

It was like Ripley's making a buck, yes, or Planet Hollywood.

It was like someone silly owned it. Well, I can't believe we just.

Went on a whole thing about celebrities or people too. I'm really embarrassed.

That's what we learned, Pleasa. That's one lesson we learned. Celebrities are people too. You can't put them to tour you can't rob them, and you can't.

I hate myself. I really can't believe this just happened. On our podcast, we cover such horrific crimes. Well, this was a little bit of a more. This was a little bit of a lighter episode. I mean, it's about a rat beef. It's like, no one gets sexually assaulted. Like, it's very little. It was a little bit of a lighter episode.

So I think we can take a minute and say celebrities are people too, if we want.

I know.

Yeah, Well, I mean we're not. We're not redoing it, We're not retaking it.

This is waout hearing.

That's the thing, guys. Sometimes it's like cut print, it's done. We can't do anything. But and listen, I do have a name drop. It would be wild if I didn't mention it right here.

But I did not meet him. I did not see him.

But I did hear that Kanye was at the Comedy Store and he was watching my set on Saturday night.

So do without what you will.

But maybe I did another plus for the Jewish community for him.

Yes, break him down one Jew at a time. Yes, I like that.

I like that was the funniest I'm sorry when I woke up and he was like, honestly, I don't hate Jews anymore because of Jonah Hill and twenty two Jump Street, Like, I.

Wait that happened. Oh you didn't.

Oh I can't believe you missed this. That's why I'm like laughing about it. So a few months ago, you know, Kanye obviously did bad things about Jews and like that Nazis are kind of chill, like give Nazis a chance. But then he made a giant post that he loved Jonah Hill so much in this.

Movie that he takes it back. I take it all back.

He's like, my bad ruined my I've lost millions and millions of dollars. I've opened season on the Jewish community basically for hate and shit on the internet. But you know what, Jonah's my guy.

I take it back. Okay.

So Kanye posted and then when this is from TMZ, So March twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, is when he posted about it.

And I'm sure Jonah Hill was on Cloud nine.

So Kanye wrote, watching Jonah Hill in twenty one Jump Street made me like Jewish people again, know what should take anger against one or two individuals and transform that into hatred towards millions of innocent people. No Christian can be labeled anti Sime. Knowing Jesus is Jewish is a Jew. Thank you, Jonah Hill.

I love you. I can't believe you didn't see this. I did not see this.

I think by at this point I had like turned off, turned down the volume on, like the full Kanye. But this is like, this is basic reasoning that a ten year old would know, Like just because a person with brown hair was mean to you, you can't be mad at all people with brown hair, Like this is like a crazy like I don't know, I do. He has mental illness. So I'm not gonna elaborate on this, but but that was I'm glad this thing.

I'm glad Lisa's on the list. It's Jonah Hill, Lisa trigger Well. We don't know a thing.

The just my friends that were clear said that he seemed to enjoy it. But I don't know any more information. But listen, do do I It's no secret I love Hollywood.

I love show business.

I was raised on movies, TV and US Weekly and Entertainment Tonight, and I'm thrilled.

I'm thrilled it's huge for you. I love it. I love it.

I hope he calls you and asks you to collab on some weird project for him.

I don't know what I would even say to him. I don't know if I want to me him. But I just love when I can tell my parents about a celebrity that they would know.

They know who Kanye is. My mom does not know who Kanye is. You're right, this is more for the niece and nephews. I gotta put it in the niece nephew group chat. I think, yeah, he's gonna win me some points. Yeah, my mom would be like, who is that? Like I think I've heard of it, Like she would not know who that is?

Really?

Yeah, okay, well, but that's my mom is very I mean, she's shut off. I think from a lot of if it's not like a mystery series on Netflix or Master or Dairy Girls or Dairy Girls. She loves that shit. I love Jarry Girls. Oh my god, Oh I forgot I have like five more episodes that to watch. Okay, let's get to what would Sister Peg do. This is our weekly segment where we direct you guys towards an organization or a blog or a article or something to

And it's just interesting.

If you liked what we talked about today, so we will put the link in our show notes and it will be up on our Instagram the day that this episode comes out in our stories that will be saved forever in WWSPD Highlight and that will be yeah, and it's also over advice if you just want to google it.

But that's that. Thank you so much for that.

While you were talking, was I texting in our scandaval group.

Chat, I was I felt it well that lalla clip. Okay.

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