Comic Perversion w/ Jonathan Silverman

we're your hosts. Every week, guys, we talk about an episode of SVU, We recap, we dive into the true crime it was based on, and we talked to a celeb guest, and first we do a little chit chat and just up top, I just want to remind you guys. In June, we're back out on the road. We're doing San Francisco on June eighth, We're doing Tempe Arizona on June fifteenth, Denver on June twenty fifth, and La on

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it's our last resort. We hate Blippy too. Wow, my friend Marty shows her kids Blippy. That's the only time I've ever seen like a second of it. But I didn't really pay attention. I fully turned my brother and sister and.

if you're if you're confused what we're talking out. We're talking about how like last week or the week before, we talked about a girl whose fiance wanted to propose to her and had his friends kidnap her, or his friends took it upon themselves to kidnap her and scared the shit out of her, like literally, she pissed her pants, and we just thought that was really fucked up. So then I was driving somewhere and was just like, oh, I'm going to look up and see.

are always like this is just Reddit? What's And I'm like, BuzzFeed isn't real, It's for money, Like do you guys come here for real stuff? I mean, I think they have great long form shit and fun stuff, but like, well, isn't to educate.

constantly tell you the internet is a healthscape? And same with kidnapping. It's like all you ever hear is women be like, I'm scared to get kidnapped, I'm scared to get assault. I'm scared. And then it's like, oh, I didn't know it would be that big of a deal. I thought it would be funny. And it's like they just don't listen at all, Like it's so crazy to think a kidnapping is an LOL, And I'm sorry. I keep going to the movie Jawbreaker, but it did teach

us a great lesson about kidnapping. Don't do it even for fun. It could go wrong.

the criminal justice and social work division of people. She says, you know, when she was at Juvenile Corps and she said, like, the approaches of criminal justice and social worker like probation officers were so different and the outcomes were so stark, and the criminal justice probation officers kids were miserable and always had to go back to court, and not the social work ones. Huh. And I said, yeah, I believe that because I feel like social workers are like more sociology.

It's like, oh, I wonder why you're so damaged and doing crimes. And I feel like criminal justice people are like, you're bad, your fifteen year solo car, You're bad. And I go, I think that's it, and she goes, exactly, I agree with that.

looney tunes everywhere. I watched the show Swarm. I loved it. Yeah, I loved it. I would recommend it to everybody. Swarm. It's about a Beyonce's style, beehive fan obsessed, a fan turned serial killer, and in the genre. I love it. Yeah, it's in the genre. Okay, So I met somebody he's a comic at a show. We're talking us to you and he goes, oh, I took care of Marishka's son on set, and I go, oh, my god, baby Noah or bisexual Noah? Which Noah did you work? And he goes,

baby Noah. Okay. I go, okay, great, and then he's like, yeah and I met Maloney. I go, there's no way Noah didn't exist till season fifteen. You do not meet Maloney, goes, no I did. He was bought. He looked like this, and I go, listen, Noah was season fifteen. I don't know what to tell you. Maloney was not involved. Maybe he was visiting the child on set, but like, there's no fucking way. And then we figured out he took care of Murshka's real biological flow and he goes, I

thought I was going crazy. I go, don't worry, bro, We're good. I'm so funny that like talking about her real son that you'd be like, oh, is it bisexual her son or baby her son? And his name's August. I love that. So he took care of baby August for a week on the set of SVU, and he said that Mrsha is amazing, like we hear from lots of people. I love that she had a little manny. That's so fun. Okay, the other this isn't even that interesting. I saw this on The Great Intro, but I saw

this on my Instagram. And James Vanderbeek showed his children his old tape of hosting SNL because they loved Wendes Jenna or Taga did ESSNW. So He's like, they were so into it. I decided, like I'll show them the coolest I've ever been. And the kids were like, you're embarrassing. You look like an idiot. This is just so stupid. You're so stupid, you dork, and they just like hate it. The kids hate it. It's like very fun.

women in their own cinematic universe. They're part of a franchise now and they're going for it.

it's great. I wish I remembered it. Whatever is everything I have to share from the internet. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not leaving that.

Really creepy, it's psychotic, and he's lucky I didn't tell the heads of the people of the club. So I'm just going to talk to him and be like, that's an insane thing. I don't know why you would do that at my job. My friends don't do that, my parents don't do that. That's not you. What and if you listen to this podcast.

at Bernie's and he's performing at TSU. Now, Kara, do you want to reveal your connection to this episode or do you want to save it for later? Wait? What is my connection to this episode? Stick or treat?

where this club is located. But you know, you know, you only know that, I guess if you know New York. And then there's just like a piece of paper that looks like word art posters stuck to the dry erase board and it says Josh Galloway. And I just love that there are shining a light on the indignities of stand up comedy. You know, he did sell out. I'm sure he's making tens of thousands of dollars for this gig, but yeah, they are selling French fries and it just

is a computer paper with his name on it. Like, stand up comedy really really humbles you day in and day out, and it's pretty fantastical.

do like roast them a little bit whatever. And I went on one year as fictional rape comic Josh Galloway from SVU, And I'll tell you the ones who got it got it, and the ones who didn't were very confused. But I like did I think I was kind of poking fun At the time. There was all this controversy about rape jokes and stuff like that, and so I was like poking fun at all of that. And I don't remember my set very well because it was twenty

fourteen or when did this episode came out? Yeah, February, so so eight months later I'm playing him after this episode comes out, hoping people get the reference.

But he calls TSU trashed slut University or totally swallow you and the boys cheer, and then he starts making fun of the rape trolley. It's like, just let the trolley take the women home, Like you have an issue with the rape trolley. It's like, it is just so funny to me. But he doesn't like that the rape trolley's only for women. What about the men? And he goes a man rape trolley. Actually, well, the joke is date rape for men is actually called getting lucky, and

for joke structure, it's there. He's really killing it, you know. He then tests a really really tough premise about the upsides of rape, and then a gaggle of gals in the front row wearing matching t shirts stand up and they yell, rape is no joke. And one of the girls is Skylar Day. I remember her from Parenthood, but she was also in a different SVU playing the same character Renee Clark in the episode Girl Dishonored in season fourteen.

You know, another college rape situation. Okay, Bambam. So there's booing. Everyone's booing, and it's like, are we booing the anti rape group or are we booing? Josh, it's the group. So she goes, rape is not funny and then another girl gets up and she's a little sauced and she yells, you're not funny. Go home. I'm in love with all of this, the commotion that's happening. And Josh Gallaway's like, hey, guys, let's not heckle and boo our feminist sisters. If anyone

knows about comedy, it's a feminist. And you know that's again another great structured little bit. She starts quoting rape stats and he brings her on stage, and we get her name and she's part of a group called Star Students Together Against Rape anyways, So he then says, renee is rape. Rape is not funny. Gang rape, on the

other hand, is freaking hysterical. Again another great bit, Like because we get to see him do comedy throughout and it does decrease in terms of structure, but structurally he's really knocking these out. I would say art is good.

are like, rape jokes are just not funny. I have I have two, and people laugh, but they're just on a different perspective where I make I don't. I don't feel the victim is the punchline. The rapists are the punchline to me. Yes, And I have a gang bang joke with different than or gang bang, Yeah, yes or not? I yeah, we'll see. Yeah, it's no longer on porn hubs, so we don't know how consensual it was. But yeah, But I am a believer that anything can be funny

if you're funny. Yeah, And that's why I think funny. Yes, And I think that's why the comics that come plain about quote unquote PC culture being woke, people being serious whatever, they're just not funny enough and can't really admit it to themselves. Mm hmm. Even when something doesn't go right, you can blame a crowd, but at the end of the day, it's you. It's your jokes, and you can make anyone laugh at anything. Yeah. V I mean is there's the best example. There's people that do like One

Man shows about losing their children. I mean, there's like there's people can find humor in anything. You know, you just have to do it the right way. Yeah, not lazily, because I don't love domestic violence jokes. That's something that I usually am, like, I just don't laugh or like, and I'm not into it. Yeah. Nicole Amy Schreiber has a fantastic domestic violence joke and I laugh every time I hear it. So it's like, you know, but it's probably not making the victims the butt her joke. No,

a little bit, but in a great way. But my thing I also always say with comics is like I think as an audience member and probably in different marginalized groups can feel this way. I bet feel this way. Where Like you can also tell people's intent, Like there are a lot of comics their intent is to piss people off. Yeah, and then when people are pissed off, they get to be a victim of like, oh, they're pissed, but or like, look what I get to say.

think audiences get it. The guys that I think about that really bother me is they purposely write material with the intent of controversy and to piss people off because they know deep down they're not funny enough or they don't believe in themselves enough. But when they complain about crowd, I'm like, but your intent isn't for people to enjoy themselves. Your intent is to get people mad because you think you're like a philosopher king y. Yeah, and so there's

a lot too. I mean, this guy is a sick oh. So like I'm not defending Josh Gallows. We're not defending Josh Galloway. We're just dressing up as we're obviously going to talk about it. Yeah, well it would just be shocking not to talk about it. But I think you can make anything funny. I don't think anything. I like to look. I like to laugh at dark stuff sometimes too, Like it doesn't mean I condone it. I just can

laugh at like a dark joke, you know. Anyway, So whatever, he talks about the rules of three in terms of the gang Ray. He keeps pushing it. She calls him sick. He says he's funny. Everyone claps for Renee. She walks away with her group. She is walking home. Uh oh, there are men from the show. They seem plastered as hell, and they're waiting for her in their little beanie caps and they're like, oh hey, Renee, you were great up there, and they start tossing her around. It's a really vicious scene.

Like I hate watching this. It makes me really start and uncomfortable. She tries to get away and they have a grip and she starts trying to blow her rape whistle and they do. You think they're trying to make a point that rape whistles are stupid. Because they take the whistle away very quickly from her is the point, and she's not able to whistle. She's crying, they're trying to get away, she's asking them to stop. She finally kicks one of them in the dick. He falls over.

She grabs her keys, whistles again, and then we hope she gets away. We don't really know what happens. Then we go back to the rape comics closer, he goes, good night kids, Okay, so that's that, and then he's signing autographs and he's looking right directly at the camera while he's high fiving people. It's really sick, honestly. But what we see is he's making eye contact with the drunk girl who heckled the Feminist rape club. And so

she's drunk, she's horny for him. They're looking at each other, they're mutually checking each other out. And then it cuts to our beloved credits. So so now we're in the squad room, it's you know, the wooden comforting room, and Renee Clark is explaining they grabbed me. She managed to get her whistle back and that's what made them panic and run, and she's crying. She's really fucked over from what happened. Benson's like, good, you did what you had

to do to get out of the situation. And Rollins asks if she knows the boys that did it, and she's like, yes, they live in my dorm. They must have followed her from the comedy show. And she mentions that Josh Galloway and Rollin's is like, oh, one of those rape joke comics, and I wonder what, like, no

one's known as a rape joke comic. Right, Well, we'll get into it when I do the real thing, okay a little bit, And then she said that her friends and her were coming to send a message, but Josh brought her on stage and said it was funny if she was gang raped, and that's why those boys assaulted her because Josh gave them permission. And Benson's like, well, we'll see what kind of charge as we can bring

against these boys. And then they go on to ask the girl like are you ready to go through this again? And she goes, I am, That's why I came straight to you. I didn't even call campus security, and she goes, you have to go after Josh Galloway. So we cut to one of the boys in interrogation with Amrrow and he's like, Josh did not ed us on or motivate us to do this. We were just messing around. It was a joke. She's gotten. She's got to lighten up.

It's the sickens me. Yeah, like making it seem like there is a joke to fully scaring someone into thinking they're about to get a like the trauma is real that your body and how it reacts will not know it's a joke.

how to take a joke. And then the guy's like and I like Renee and Finn is like, you got a funny way of showing it, and they say they felt bad she was heckled on stage and they were just trying to have some fun with her number one fear. So Barbara spying in the window, Like, I have a friend who's her number one fear as frogs. I wouldn't even throw a fake frog at her. Yeah, that's just like, why am I if you're scared of? I don't know why I have to push the limits of someone's fears.

survivor and an activist and they targeted her. And Barba's like, okay, I'll try to get a temporary restraining order, but she needs to change dorms and Benson does not like this. So they're walking and talking and you know, Benson and Rollins are on either side of him, just one step back. It's like a dance number. And Benson asks about the comic, and you know, he's a big deal. He's one of those snarky cable TV hosts. And he was on a list of People's Magazine's most eligible comedians.

doesn't have a partner. I don't know. I think he's out there fucking I mean he was seen with dua lipa like who knows. But yeah, he's someone that is just subjectively like an attractive person on television who people like. But after Trevor Noah, I can't think of a second person. Michael Cha, I'm thinking Chay. People like Chay, Yeah, Chay. Oh. You know who is hot and who is an eligible bachelor?

that's exciting. So Barbara's confused, and so Barba's like, wait, so Josh Galloway also assaulted Renee and Benson goes, no, but he made jokes about how funny it was if he was gang raped, and he incited this incident, and Barbara treats them like idiots. He's like, you've heard a free speech right, And I'm on Barba's side era where it's like, what you can't charge a guy for bad joke telling? And Benson's like, well, what about hate speech?

And they heard his set and they advocated a gang rape and they followed Renee out and it makes him an accessory and she says, if I tell a guy with a gun, I want my husband dead and cocks her head to the side like good point, right, And if you're wondering, Benson at this point has short chin length, bouncy Bob Benson era very season five s JP sex in the city, and Barbara says, you're doing a false equivalency and which I agree with with are but here

and we need to prove his intent any other charges on the sky and Ronind's is like, no, but we'll start digging.

hotel robe and he's in a chipper mood. He's like, come in detectives, and Benson reminds him she's a sergeant and he condescendingly congratulates her on wearing the pants. Tomorrow doesn't like that he's in a robe and he's like, did the front tesk not tell you. We were on our way up, and this is unfortunately very me, Like I will order room service and when they knock, I am just I have to. I'm like just a minute, I'm throwing clothes on, like I didn't order the food. Yeah,

I'm it's I'm really bad about this. I'm not wearing pants ring like so I sent you a surprise meal, or even when you're coming to pick me up or I know you're coming over, like I will still not put on clothes until the moment someone knocks. And it's kind of like when I FaceTime you when I have to pee and you're like, you could have done it a moment after, and I'm like, I couldn't. I couldn't. So unfortunately, I do see myself in this rapist. Okay,

so unfortunately, but this is me. So anyways, he goes, yeah, yeah, they pulled me out of the shower. He then takes his robe off in front of the police and Marish goes like, whoa, the dude is naked. He changes into sweatpants. His body looks good, though, you know, good for you know, good for Jonathan Silverman. I'm sure he did some pushups, some prep and they paid off. So then while he's changing, he's like, you like the view, and Tomaro go, no,

I'm not enjoying the view. And I get that this man is naked in front of him, but the Penthouse Hotel view is gorgeous. Also, what kind.

are insane, and he finally puts on a shirt. He starts ass he's very casual, very manic energy, and he reminds me of the jazz guy from Sex in the City. In terms of chaos, in terms of just like me, Me, Me, me me. Benson gets down to business and brings up Greene Clark and he acts like he has no idea who this bitch is. He goes, I don't know, I do one hundred and fifty shows a year. You gotta be more specific, touts, and then she shows a photo and he pulled her up on stage and he like,

legit is like, but I don't remember. I have no idea what you're saying. And he's just you know, chewing on a sandwich, lying do you think he really doesn't remember faces their names? Or he's lying to the cops like, I what do you think it is? I think he doesn't remember for real?

are you gonna do? Blame the artists? Chewing the whole time, and a Tomorrow's like, oh, you're an artist, and he gives up and goes, come on, I'm a performer, and Benson's like you're a witness. Can you just help us id the assailants? And he says, I don't see people. I just see lights in the dark. I don't know. And then Tomorrow has another burn and goes, wow, drunk college students tough crowd, and it is people wasted is not a great crowd. So Tomorrow is an idiot here.

I don't I have to stop talking. I'm just gonna read my notes. So he's like, okay, I get you're not a fan. Why don't you come to my show? I'll get you VIP tickets. I'm playing TSU again and he begs them to come to the show and see it. Benson size and walks away. So it's a ten PM show. We're back at the comic strip and it's a Wild Force theme. We have Benson, Cassidy, Finn and Rollins and their front row and center, which is the craziest thing

of the episode for me. And this time there's a sign on the other side of the stage and it's for cold ice cream and there's a cute drawing, so it's getting ice cream in a comedy show. So we have cold ice cream and hot fries. Baby, it's like a baseball park. I don't understand these signs, I know, because the only thing I can imagine is like a brownie with ice cream like that. That's with you? But like, what a cone? What are we? What's happening? But Cassidy's

a huge fan of this guy. And then he's like, let's be open minded. He used to be funny, and that's a Rollins because of course she's going to defend this guy. She goes, he's a smart comedian. He just never got attention until he started all this rape stick. And this is how I feel about twenty sixteen Trump at the election, the rise of white nationalism, like all of this. It's like, you know, no one cared about

this smart, great guy until the rape stick. And that's how I feel about so many comedians where they leaned in and their audiences are just yeah, they hate woke, you know, Like I just think so many people have created and blown up and now are are so rich selling out to audiences of truly scum. Yeah. Yeah, the what did Hillary Clinton call it? The not powerables, the deplorables. Yeah,

they're like deplorables. Yeah, and they're funny people, but like they just didn't start making money until this divide of like woke and not woke. And you know they're doing good, but when the when the dust settles, you guys will be in the Nazi camp, you know what I mean.

had this much attitude, I would hate this person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's not that bad of a joke. It's not even again swimming, it's not a rape joke. It's just like, guys, are we gonna committed relationship. Yeah, yeah, it's like cheesy, yeah, because I do a bit sometimes where if like someone's not clapping in the front row, I go, why didn't you clap, You're a bitch, and then people laugh and

it's just like silly and they think it's silly. And one time a woman truly in the front responder was like, well, you didn't do anything to deserve it, and it's like, oh, no, no, no, you just like clap when someone comes on stage, you dumb cunt, like you know what I mean. And then she said something else rude to me, and her energy sucked and I did call her a hunt. And then her friend came and they started having a loud This was like recent and they start having a loud conversation.

I was like, okay, now you're all talking, like what's up, and she goes, she's just filling me in because you called her a cunt, and I'm like, yeah, and you're both proving that your giant cunts and we all hate you, so you could have proven to me that you're great, but you keep talking. Their energy sucked and throughout the

rest of the show energy not good. But the crowd really didn't like them, and then I made fun of them the whole night, and Benson is being these this type of person where it's like, but of course she doesn't have an open mind. She hates him. It's the threat comic, right. But them sitting in the front row is nuts.

that's that's the energy. I didn't clap because you didn't deserve it yet, And it's like you just clap when people come on stage. You psycho okay, so anyways, and if you want to be bad, sit in the back. So anyways, and he does what you would do. He immediately tell you know, goes in on live and then he tells everyone she's a cop, and everyone booze.

her sarge and it's like, chill out, have fun. I'll get you a drink and I'll keep the receipt. And then he goes, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, and he says he's he actually fucked TSU's finest trash sluts last night. And to me again another aside, I'm so sorry, Casey, you're gonna have to edit so much of this episode. But when I see college kids now, they look like such children. To me, it is actually weird that forty year olds are fucking college students. Yeah, they look like babies.

It's weird, it's creepy. I don't care if it's above the law. It is uncomfortable. And you're a predator and you're a freak. I really hate it. Yeah, because you can tell her when people are like, I don't know, she looked eighteen, it's like, no, she didn't. We know what children like they look so yuh, even the eighteen year olds don't look eighteen. Yeah. I've walked into bars where people are twenty one I'm assuming and been like, oh, I'm too old to be here. I don't want to

be around these children. So then he calls her a little spinner and that is, yeah, that's not good. They were, and so he said they ordered room service champagne and mazzarella sticks, which to me is like, I can't think of a greater evening. He then says they have mind blowing sex. I have a hard time believing that, since he's so against consent, there's no way he's giving mind blowing sex. And then he says he was so hammered he doesn't even remember, so I'm sure.

you see the note? What e is he say?

She's like, wait, are you really SVU Detectives and he and she's like, you know that drunk TSU girl he was talking about in his set, that's me and I think he raped me. In their commercial break obviously a commercial, so she's in a glitter long sleeve shirt that's layered with pink lace. It's cue and she seems like her tuition is paid in full. By her parents and she has great eyebrows necklace or she's fooling us and it's

all marshals, but she's selling it. And she says that she's president of the student Activities Board and she helped

organize the Josh comedy event. She stayed around after his sets to make sure everything was okay, and he brought her drinks at the bar and he was drinking too, and then you know, she did have a head start because she was drinking at the show and she was drunk and Omar was like, okay, it's goodyear beings straightforward with us, and she's like, we danced, we made out the bar clothes and he had a car waiting for us outside, and he said that that he had a

super cool hotel room that was paid for by the student association, so I should come by and see it. And she remembers getting there, but she doesn't remember Champagne. Everything is hazy. She doesn't remember anything except for when she woke up in the middle of the night. She was being raped. She was sodomized. She was face down in a pillow, legs hanging off the bed and he

was inside of her. And she starts to cry and it hurt a lot, and it was anal So she says that she said no and stop, but he said, hang on, doll, I'm almost finished, and she wipes away tears. She didn't leave, though she said she was too drunk to leave, so she did stay there in the morning, and then he gave her a swag bag with like T shirts, hat and gift cards and he had a bunch of them in the closet and Rollin said, did

you tell anyone what happened? She goes, no, but I wrote an email to him, but I never sent it. And Ronin's is like, good, don't open it, don't do anything. It's in your drafts folder. Don't touch it. We will get into it. And she takes a set from a paper cup. And now we're in a walk and talk.

Barbara's in the middle, flanked by Benson and Tomorrow. This is a very sexy threesome and He's says this is super gray, and Benson goes, this is black and white, and he's like, it's a rape comic and it's not the same as a rapist. Do you have more evidence? And they're waiting for a rape kit, but the prelimic

exam shows that. And this is Mulani's joke back in the day from his first special New in Town where he goes, you know, you can't swear on TV, but SVU gets to say crazy shit on primetime, And this is one of those sentences where Benson goes, it showed forceful anal penetration with bruising, tearing and swelling. Not good. Barbara's being so bitchy, holding his coffee looking down like, okay, she didn't know she was raped until he made fun of her and his monologue and he's like it was

a confession, not a monologue. And Barba's like, you don't like him, and we can't go after him because of the stand up routine, and you know it's he'll become like a free speech hero. And Benson and Tomorrow are pleading with him, like this guy is a classic power assertive rapist, and Tomorrow is like, there are post sex swag bags, Barbara, come on, let's track his financials. Maybe

there are other victims. Barbara says, fine, get another VIC and I'll get you a warrant and he spins away, and Renee Clark is with the detectives being like she's a party girl and she heckled me that night, and babe, and it's like, you heckled too. You're all hecklers. Okay, you're all hecklers. You're all terrible audience members. But this guy is a rapist. I don't know if we should have talked about comedies so much up top because he is a bad person. Yeah, I but you know, what

are we gonna do? So she's like, it's ironic now that she wants my help, and Benson's like, well, I'm glad you're helping her. You are a hero. You go girl. So she doesn't get why he isn't a rent arrested though, and Benson's like, we're on it, like you guys that we're a TV show, but we can't remove this fast. Okay, So tomorrow isn't having luck tracking swag bag money. But Rollins did find something interesting. Out of one hundred and twenty bookings last year, he only canceled one in Albany

and it's the student union guy. I was pissed because the police held him up at a previous gig. In New Pulse, Finn chimes in the New Palse, PD would only confirm that they questioned him about an accusation, and Renee Clark is suddenly part of the squad. She's just there brainstorming and the DA didn't press charges there either, and Finn explains that the girl recant did, so let's find out why. Also, New Pults is a village in

New York. It's eighty miles north of NYC, and it's a Sunni What is at State University of New York And it said that the school is super competitive and it's a rich hippie town. Is the vibe I got. So they're off to New Pats and so we're I think, I don't know how I said it earlier. So we're at a dorm room of Aubrey Audrey Truffett Trafe Trufo Trufo Trufo, Audrey, beautiful name. So it's a Sunday and they're working on a Sunday. She doesn't want to be

talking to them, and they noticed she was. She has a really nice watch and they're like, oh, was that diamond watch part of the deal And she covers it quickly with her sleeve and she's like, listen, Josh was just being nice And Rollins is like when he raped you and she doesn't like that, and they asked what happened. She says she was drunk. It was rougher what she's used to and she's like, I guess everyone likes it differently,

but I think he thought it was normal. And Finn is like why because he gave you a gift bag and she's shocked, like how do they know about it? And they're like, babe, you're not the first one to accuse him. And they asked if she kept the bag, and she is upset and she can't really talk about it, and Rollins gets closer with her, bangs swoopier than ever, and she says, there's nothing in your non disclosure agreement

about showing us what's in the bag? Was there? She agrees, walks towards her closet and she hands over the bag. She did use some of the gift cards, but everything else is untouched. There's a mug and Rollins is like, okay, maybe we can get a warrant. So we're in the office. It's back to tomorrow and Benson trying to convince Barbara to give a damn and love. Anique pulled the serial note. This is the gift card, and he buys gift cards and batches of twelve and tomorrow jokes cheaper by the dozen.

So now everyone wants to be a comedian. Now I have a story. I know I've had too many stories, and I apologize. So we have a friend. And months and months ago she went a little viral. We posted it, but she went on a date. She went on some dates with us U New York Detective Special Victims Unit detective. Oh yeah yeah, and you know, I don't know if they had a fund. They had a fun few dates.

So while we're at while we're in Austin, she sends me a screenshot He texts her going, hey, any advice on someone who wants to start comedy and what open mics to go to? And it's like, babe, why don't you go test the rape kits? How about that we don't have detective were asking for a friend? No, oh my god. And it's like, can you just solve the rapes? We need help, we need we have enough comedians. We have way too many comedians. What we don't have is

SVU detectives that are doing their job. No, no, but nikes. See there was just a huge article about how that New York SVU is like working at like a four percent closure rate or something like they're doing horrible. Will you send me that? I have to send it to our friend to send to him because it's like, babe, there's no time for open mics. So they tracked all the gift cards to the recipients. Most of the girls said it was consensual sex, even though it was more

aggressive than they felt comfortable with. They are also not comfortable with pressing charges. Barba still is like, this is not enough. There is no case, and Benson's like so fucking pissed, but they keep going back and forth, arguing Benson is guilting him. Barba's giving in with a sigh. Somorrow meets him in the lobby and he's sad. Rollins isn't there. He's like, where's the cute blonde? And Tomorrow's like, cut the stick. Do you recognize this girl? Shows the

photo of the party girl. He's like, I don't know, maybe if you have a photo of the top of her head. Tomorrow hate Jesus and I hate him. We all hate him, and he's like, I'm kidding, and Finn is like, do you know Carly ride out and she's accusing you of rape. And then Finn twists the knife and says, lets him know he's not gonna be able to buy himself out of this one with a diamond watch. And he's like, oh, you're talking about new pals, and

he's like, all ought. He says, Audrey, that little chuckle slut. He plays an amazing asshole. I mean, this is such a great performance. And I've never heard chuckle slut.

the right guy. Omaro goes call your attorney. He loves being arrested. The paparazzis already outside the hotel. He calls Iced Tea jay Z and he wants a show, so let's do this. He dedicates his arrest to Lenny Bruce, and it's like, I think Lenny Bruce just swore. I think you raped. But okay, So that's another thing comics will sometimes do, but where they're like comics, we gotta have each other's back. Comics, we're all comics. We gotta

have each other's back. And it's like no, no, no, we are people and I hate you, Like, yeah, I support. I would have comics backs and saying shit, but it's like a lot of you guys suck. Like there's more to like comebacks.

is rape funny? Any responds no, of course not, and then a guy reporter shouts, but gang rape is, and then all the reporters giggle and he goes, no, I respect women, many of whom are my fans. So now we're in court and the party girls on the stand and she's reading her unsent email. Josh, I'm really confused about what happened last night. It was fun at first, but you so crossed the line. I'm really sore. I don't get why you didn't listen to me when I

said stop. It wasn't okay what you did with me. She says. The reason she didn't send it was because she had to work with him that night, because she is the student activity chair. And Barba's like, okay, let's get through the night, and they recap what happened to her show drinks, hotel, kiss bed, and then she's holding tears back. He was really force full at first. She went along with it, but the room was spinning. She passed out when she woke up. He was sodomizing her.

She continued that it hurt. She said, no, she was crying. He didn't listen, and he did whatever he wanted. She then stayed the night, and she goes, she was too drunk to leave, but she slept on the bathroom floor. Now it's Rita's turn, and we know this is not going to be easy. So she's like, you've been to six of Josh Galloway's shows last year. You're a groupie. And she goes, I was a fan, and she's like,

didn't you want to sleep with him? And she goes, yeah, you know, I'm not sure what I wanted, and which is fair, like you know what I mean, You're also allowed to change your mind. Yeah, you drank at the bar and made out you wanted it, didn't you. And she admits that she was flattered, and Rita's like, well, you loved the room service and sex, didn't you. And then the girl screams back that wasn't sex. I would never have sex there. I definitely did not want it,

and I told him that it hurt. She then says, You've I felt no pain the rest of the night. Huh. Barbara calls an objection. So then she pushes about the booze and is like, you're you're drunk, and the girl is very Tinsey Mortimer in this, and she goes, yeah, I'm drinking leu Ayne again. People are allowed to drink. She's doing the classics. Lets shame drunk, shame of a rape victim and counting her drinks. Calls her a binge drinker and says you use alcoholic experiment and being a slut.

So that's that there's objections. The court case gets wild. Benson shakes her head in the stands, John shakes, Josh shakes his head. No, now we watch someone watch Josh vlogging his trial. He names her even though it's an anonymous accuser, So fuck you, dude. Is there like a log inside? So shitty? Yeah, I'm sure. I mean publications are not allowed to I don't know about individuals. So then we pull back and on the screen and the whole team is watching it on a bar, so Cassidy's

in the middle holding the screen. I think it's an iPad. And then at tomorrow Finn, Rollins and Benson all at the bar and it's a bar that I would like to be at. It looks like divy and perfect. You know, this guy is just not understanding the difference between sex and rape, and he's willfully not seeing a difference. And then he shows a video from the show, and this is where things get a little hard on the case.

This girl was wasted and she acted super quote unquote easy, and this video evidence is her being just like a drunk slut at the show. And she gets on stage, she flashes him her bra and she was into being like partying, and then you know, they keep nicknaming her party girls. So then josh on this video goes you know what else, starts with pete perjury and it's I want to fire out, like you want to kill this man? Like yeah, so Ben's soever, you know, he's laughing. Benson

runs out of the bar. She's very upset. Barbara is on the big screen TV and showing Carly the video. She's so embarrassed, like who got this video? And Barbara's mad at rawlins like that they didn't find it or how it's spread, and so he's mad that they didn't do better police work. Barba's being a brat and he runs out upset about the case. And they're in judge's chambers and the lawyers are going head to head. So Rita is denying knowing about the video. Barba's pocket square

is popping. She wants it in as evidence. Barbara wants a full mistrial. That's denied. Benson is walking down the courtroom lobby now and she's like, I mean it's an uphill battle, I understand, but the video is excluded and Barbara's straight up like shut up. So that's that. So now Benson's on the stand, Rita's going at her and she's like still hammering on about the drinking of it all. And Rita also has a very ugly low ponytail. It's like a comb over poof in the front and a

low pony in the back. Josh is smiling. He loves all of this, and Benson and Barbara are back to walking and she is like, sorry to fucking up this, you know, trial, So she fucked up on the stand and she's like, I fucked up. I'm so sorry. This is my first back on the stand since William Lewis. And he interrupts her and goes, yeah, I know, and

it doesn't matter. Barbara then accuses Benson of pushing this case for her own ego, and Benson is shocked, and then they go into a private room to fight, and she's like, what did you just say? And he says, well, you took over the squad and you want to make a big name for yourself, so you're taking down this celebrity to show everyone how you're not scared. And she's like shocked, and she's like, that's how you feel about me, Like you know that that's not me. I'm not an

ego driven person and you know that. And he brings up her tough year and that she's going through a lot, and she's like, wait, so is it my ego or is it that my judgment's impaired And he goes, no, my judgment's impaired. And I'm pissed that I took this case and your squad did a shitty fucking job investigating, and I'm annoyed. And so she's pissed and she's like, I thought we had each other's back and he says so did I and walks off. And so now Josh's

on the stand and he's crushing it. Okay, he's doing jokes. Thing is serious to him. This is a rape trial. He does not give a fuck. He is laughing it up. Rita Calhoun is casually leaning on the stand like they're

like talking at a bar. He's ragging on the uh on Carly the party girl, and how she came back after the show, and that the only reason she brought up these allegations are after the show where he did jokes making fun about her, and you know she took the gift bag and the jury is cracking up about this gift bag and the judge, and then he turns to the judge and he goes, how you doing, and Barbara is sitting. He's sassy, and you know he's doing

the ice. He's school of acting. He's sitting instead of standing when he starts the questioning, so Barbara goes, okay, so you're saying this is just like a one night stand and her feelings got her and that's that. And he goes, yes, she came after me hard, and he asks if that happens to him a lot, and he says yes, I'm very famous and I'm very funny and people want to fuck me and the jury is loving it, laughing, and Barbara ads, and and you're good looking, and I

don't get that is Barba flirting. I know.

how about an unconscious one. Barba's like, the emmy said that Carly suffered many injuries, and so he goes, so did I. That's the funny thing about sex, You get injured. And again the jury's laughing. That wasn't even that funny. Everyone's laughing. Barbara's trying to be serious, and finally he's like, is this all funny to you? Her pain, her screaming, her sleeping on the bathroom floor, and he gets sassy again, and I mean, he refuses to be serious. He's like, oh,

were you there? I didn't realize I had a threesome. Barbara flips like, oh my god, this trial's just material for you. Huh. And then Josh calls himself an artist and Barbara questions him and he goes, listen, life is my material. Racism, incest, rape. If you don't joke about it, you cry. And it's like, no, if you got raped and then made jokes, that would be great. You can't make jokes as the rapist. Yeah, Like it makes no sense. So he says that it's his job as a social

satirist satirist. Why do you say that word satirist? I didn't, so both of my options were, okay, a satirist. So finally he gets serious. He's like, you got to shock people and go there and make them think about Christian hypocrisy. And Barba's like, okay, so forcing yourself onto a pass out twenty one year old is part of your act. And he's like again he's the victim, and he's like, this trial is bogus, you know, And he's like, this isn't a rape trial. This is a trial about a

young girl who got in over her head. And it's like, is that not a confession to me? That's a confession? Yeah, Like, because if someone's over their head in something, and they go, wait, I don't want to do this. You should stop. I don't know okay, and he again is just like, she had a fantasy about becoming part of my world, but when the coach turned back into a pumpkin, she cried and then cried rape. And instead of getting over it, you sue. And if you think she's not gonna sue,

I have a bridge to sell you. And Barbara interrupts, so wait, is she after you for your money or we want you silenced, or we're mad at you for calling out Christians? And he adds and my success, I am not guilty, and I'm sorry if her feelings got her.

I did not rape that girl. Nothing further. So then we get a shot of Renee Clark looking panicked as hell, and then a shot of Carly looking pissed as hell, and we're in a busy hallway and there's a little chat session going on about like what's gonna happen, and Benson's like, yeah, I mean they saw the video, and Renee is like, ugh, Carly is such a waste case.

She then is like fuck, I feel bad. I was a victim and now I'm victim blaming Ben's and is like, we both know Carly didn't want this to happen, but she is a dumb slut. Both things can be true. And Renee is like, what about all the other girls, and she explains the judge won't allow it because and then Renee is like, okay, so we need another victim. What if we set him up? And Benson goes the NYPD cannot approach him during this trial without his lawyer,

and Renee's like, what if it's not the NYPD? And Renee's like, anything that you're thinking of doing, you are not doing it. He is a dangerous man. And she's like, okay, fine, yeah he's dangerous. And now he's about to get to go free. And Benson's like, well, you brought him to trial, maybe he'll think twice before raping again. Huh. So then Benson walks off, Renee rushes off the bench, and I think we know what's about to happen. She will not

be listening to Benson. Josh is sitting at a bustling bar and we see Renee enter the bar in disguise with like a confused outfit. For sure, there's buns, there's glasses, there's drop earrings. There's heels that are so of this time and like a professional tight dress. The music is bumping. She walks towards Josh, who's on his phone drink and like he's drinking and then just scrolling on his phone. So this is he's definitely a comic. This is how I spend most of my life on the road, just

alone at a bar on my phone. They start flirting. He asks if he knows her, and she's like, oh, we met a few years ago. He pretends to remember her. What are you drinking? YadA YadA. We're at the hotel. The champagne is being poored. She says she's nervous, and he sits her down and goes, that's what the booze is for a girl. He takes off her glasses and places them on the nightstand. She takes her butt down and he calls her pretty, and they start to kiss

and everything is fine. But then she looks at her phone and is like, oh fuck, that's the third text for my boyfriend. And he's like boyfriend and she's like fuck. He tracks my phone. I have to go and he's like no and then blocks her and he grabs the bottle of champagne and says, what once we pop, we don't stop? She says, sorry, I really have to go. He grabs her arm, pulls her back and won't let her leave the hotel room. She keeps saying no and how she has to go. He does not compute. He's like,

what are you talking about? How do you? What do you mean? Like he's very Hilaria bald when here he's like, no, how do you Koma does wait? You do great cucumber? Yeah. Yeah, so he's doing that like he doesn't know what no means. She's fighting him off. It gets really uncomfortable. It's a really intense scene. It's really hard to watch the scene. Yeah yeah. She keeps saying stop. He goes, fine, if you like it rough, I can get rough, throws her

on the bed. She continues to scream. She is now crying. She pushed. He pushes her face down under the bed. She is fighting for her life. He is going to rape her and he has no intentions to stop. He's pulling her hair as she cries, and finally she kicks him and is able to get up from his grip, and while she's sitting up, he rips her dress. Off, and she stands up and he says, oh, now you're ready to party, So then she kicks him again and then has to kick him in the dick. Finally he

falls over and screams God. She grabs her glasses off the nightstand and runs off, and he's yelling like, hey, where are you going, and it's like away from you what? And he calls her a bitch. And now we watch the attack on a laptop screen and Barba slowly shuts the laptop screen down as we see a smug, eyewin look on his face. Josh is sitting there and still doesn't look like he's taking any of this seriously. Rita Calhoun looks at him, like this fucking idiot and says

there was a camera in her eyeglasses. Rita accuses the NYPD of doing this. Barba assures her that she did it all on her own and bought her spyware glasses at best Buy. Shout out, yeah, she probably has a receipt and I'm sure that Taru got something better than best Buy spyglasses, so proof. And Rita is like, who cares? This won't be admissible regardless, and thinks the NYPD still did this. Barba is calm and confident. He says, she did this on her own, and I'm not looking to

use it at this trial. I'm bringing on a new case, bitch attempted rape and sexual assault. And Josh's like, hey, what is this? First the vendetta, now a shakedown and it's like, you try to rape someone on camera?

so does this mean I can sue him? And she smiles, and Rollin says that's your call, and Finn judges her and leans back in his chair and Benson and Barbara, the two Bees, are spying on the two way mirror and they're like, this bitch is a piece of work. Damn. And then we get info that Renee's video of Josh can never see the light of day. It all has to remain confidential, and Amara was like, I mean he

still wins. This is bullshit, And Benson tries to be like, I mean he pled guilty and he's on the registry and Amara was like yeah, and he walks right back on stage and Barbara says, who knows. I mean the court of public opinion is strong. But also he's going to sell theaters now, the venues will get bigger. I think they under a spad. How many people love a rapist?

a little briefcase. Omar's like what the fuck and Benson goes Ego and he's like, you saved his ass and she goes, well, yeah, after I put it out on the line, and Amaro goes, no, he will get over it, and so will Cassidy. And she goes what very defensively, and he's like, well, you took down his favorite comic, and she says good night and he walks away. Another reason why Cassidy was not the right person for Live,

Like this guy is his favorite comic. Yeah, and her cell phone rings and it's Brian Cassidy and she read button rejects it. And then this is just like a crossover, like who cares about this ending? But knock knock gets Sophia Bush as Detective Aaron Lindsay from Chicago p D. And she said that the raspy voiced man Voight had called and they need help on an ear cutting rape case. Because Benson knows the m O. They didn't get far and investigating, and then Sophia's like, damn, how did you

guys even like do this? No witnesses, no evidence. This makes me feel like a rookie again. And Benson sits down powerfully and says, for what it's worth, your boss said you were the smartest detective he's ever worked with. But I'll get you those notes and the and you know, email whatever you need. So she came to New York for this ear file. Sophia Bush can't believe that Voight said nice things about her, and Benson says good luck. Sophia smiles, and then Benson's alone in her chair and

that's that's it. I hate like she came from Chicago to get files. It's so confusing. I don't, yeah, because this is before the like Rednecks stuff, like, this is before all the cross So yeah, I just I don't. I don't like it. I don't like the ending. I wish yeah, and ended is as big as it started. I talked for too long. This is a nightmare at Casey have fun editing, all right, say where you are when you come back. We've got some crime, Okay. So we talked about this a little bit up top.

bunch of guys just raped her dot dog? Okay, I remember this.

like twenty thirteen. And then he also defended his initial jokes and like that people have to be able to joke about whatever they want. Well, because it's like everyone has their own sensitive thing, like you can't you can't take everyone's needs into account when you're performing, Like I just got like an angry message from someone about a joke I have. It's a quick bit about diabetes. I am the butt of the joke. Yeah, but a woman wrote that, like her kid almost died because of diabetes,

and what a serious illness. And it's like, I'm sorry, we can't take diabetes off the table, like because of your child. And it's same, it's like I'm sorry if your grandfather died in a fire, but like we can we can't. You can't question Yeah, you can't just do a questionnaire of every audience and everything's off the table. And obviously there's more like traumatic and fucked up topics like rape, but everyone has their own sad things. Everyone

has lived a life, everyone has sensitive topics. You can't say every like it's off limits, and a lot of people.

Jeter replied and said, I read the article. You know, you see it, and then it's like, how the fuck did people come up with this? You know, basically that's it, and who would believe this shit?

This guy would find victims on the college campuses, like not at his shows like in the episode, but he would go to like the computer labs or music rooms and he'd find girls by themselves. He would cover their faces so that they couldn't see him. He would assault them and talk to them while he was assaulting them like this. One victim said, quote, I was just trying to do anything to get out of there alive as

quickly as possible. But she said that while he was assaulting her, he asked her about her sexual history, her parents, her siblings, her roommate, and then he like threatened to take her id so that he could find her later, threaten her with scissors, and he told her if she didn't play along, he would, you know, beat her face in,

And he didn't do any of that. He never took her id and he never like beat her up, but you know, he told her wait five minutes and then asked her to pray for him after he left like as he left like sick.

road map of where these rapes occurred. So he was only convicted of three of them, but he's linked to a bunch more. But he's currently serving thirty to forty year sentence at in Nebraska for rapes that he committed in that state, and as soon as he is set to be released in twenty thirty three, he's facing two

life sentences for rapes he did in Iowa. So he's never getting out, which is amazing, but like universally revered as like a nice guy comic, and he would apparently chastise other comics for like their material being too blue the way Cosby used to do.

got all the sales. I had a wedding to go, like, I needed to buy stuff for all these events and I had. I got to hit up all the sales, eat Starbucks for breakfast, and walk around the mall and it was like a dream.

of times. And then on the date of this assault, she agreed to let Richmond come to her house after the comedy show for a few drinks, and she told him she had no romantic interest in him, and then the two of them drank in her house with two of her roommates for a little while. He made inappropriate comments to her, grabbed her, and she denied him repeatedly and punched him, and then her roommates want to sleep.

I don't know, I don't want a victim blame, but it's like, get the guy out of there before the roommates go to sleep. Anyway, after they went to sleep, he became aggressive, touched her inappropriately, told her he quote wanted to quote make love to her. She punched him several times, told him to leave, and called a cab

for him. And then in the complain in the official A complaint, it says Richmond knocked her to the ground, reached up her dress and touched her inappropriately, also exposed himself to her, and that she pushed him away, and that he finally just took off in the taxi that she'd called for him, so police then caught up with him at his Ramada Hotel room and arrested him, and he told police he was quote maybe a little aggressive.

I tried to kiss her, I might have grabbed her end quote, and police said Richmond also had a blood alcohol level of zero point one point seven at the time, so he was quite drunk, and he admitted to police that he exposed himself to the woman and wrestled her

to the ground, thinking it was flirtatious. He was charged with one count of fourth degree criminal sexual conduct and one count of third degree attempted criminal sexual conduct, and if he was convicted of both of those, he would have received twenty five years in prison or up to twenty five years in prison in fifty thousand dollars in fines.

But as usual, men get away with everything, and at his trial, Richmond asked for a bench trial instead of a jury trial, and then the judge, Daniel Maybley, said that both parties were drunk, and they were there were inconsistencies in the story, so in both of their stories. So in June of twenty fourteen, he was acquitted and I went on it.

But I could see some like New York City writers catching the wind of this story and having it be like part of what happened with like like folding it into like the Toash stuff too. You know, because I don't think anybody's ever accused Daniel Tasha of being a rapist, so they kind of combined stories.

talented Jonathan Silverman. First of all, you know you are an icon of my youth, like all the movies like I used to watch The Single Guy, I mean, Weekend at Bernie's, all the stuff you were in, like you were like a star to me and when I was growing up, and still I was gagged when we got you. But I also wanted to let you know that in

New York there's this show. We're both stand up comedians, me and Lisa and there's this show in New York that they do around Halloween that's called Shtick or Treat, and it's where comedians dress up as other comedians and they do like two minutes of material like as them, and people come and watch it and it's funny. So

I had done other people. I had done Ellen Degenerous, Whitney Cummings, and then the year that this episode came out, I dressed as fictional rape comic Josh Galloway and I love you for this show.

also a policewoman. She was a character called Mounted Cup and I believe Marishka was shooting on the same lot we were doing the Single Guy, And whenever this character would appear, it was mostly whenever we would do like, you know, the outside stuff, which would all take place on the lot anyway, the same place where they did all of you know, Seinfeld's exteriors on New York Street in Central Park. We would always say, hey, Risk, are

you available? Can you can you come Thursday at like, you know, five pm and you know, do this one quick scene with us. So anyway, sorry. So when Warren took over the show, he kindly asked me to do a handful of episodes. One I was in Vancouver shooting, one I was shooting nearby, and I just couldn't make the dates work. So I think this was the third or fourth time that he asked me to do it. So I said, without even reading it when old I said, yes, of course, I'm available.

have no you know, reference of ever doing this. So I asked my dear friend who was a stand up for some points and and and tips and and uh he helped me tremendously. But man, it was a it was a hard well just just doing the stand up, just the first I guess that first monologue where the show opens was terribly difficult.

it was was pretty disgusting too. I do remember kind of wanting that scene to just, you know, end even quicker than the editors had played it.

we're each other's you know, director, cameraman, lighting coordinator. So yeah, there's there's oftentimes where we're equippaling, and you know, unlike previous years when you would have a set appointment at noon in Santa Monica and go to the casting office or the production office, you know, you're doing it from home.

But it's done by the same people that did Shit's Creak, and that until season three or four, did not air in the States either. So you know, we're rolling the dice and hoping for you know, just like five percent of the success that happens that that show had. But yes, it's finally going to start airing. And when we shot season one, it was pretty much just as the pandemic was starting. It was just a few months into it. I think it was the first show on the continent

to begin filming. So we were kind of, you know, being looked at as like, well, if they could pull it off, maybe we could get back to show business and do it too. We were all sequestered and quarantine for weeks at the time, we'd all have to.

to the point where there was a flashback episode. It's the second to last show of season one, and my wife Jen's character is maybe three years old, and there was like five or six scenes where a three year old Jen Finn again is supposed to be, you know, running around and saying a couple of lines and you know, just being a kid. And I guess, Canada being Canada, they hired these twins, and oftentimes when you.

I think Sandwich between like Seinfeld and Friends or something, I mean like Wild Yes, and then you were on Friends and you're like friends with David Swimmer if your Wikipedia is to be believed. So, like I'm just wondering, like what was that time like in like the late eighties early nineties, when like TV was like everyone was

watching TV. There was still a mono culture where everyone watched the same TV shows, unlike today, Like what was like, what was it like Caroline in the City, I mean all that come on?

bring in actual baseball players to play themselves. So these names might not mean too much, but to me, they sure do, and as so many baseball fans, they do. But here's Ken Griffy Junior playing himself, and I get to pitch to him, and he's now in the Hall of Fame, and every day there would be a new there would be a new you know, all star coming to work.

directs every other show that shoots in New York. He directs Blacklist, and he directs a lot of Our Good direct a lot of Orange is the New Black We were both on as actors, and and he also directed a few episodes though, But we were both on last season, the final season of Good Girls, which was a gig that I just loved, and we were in a couple of episodes, but they purposely made sure we didn't have any scenes together because that would have been too weird.

But yeah, I adore him, and I mean he he really he really made that film successful because he was certainly not known for doing slapstick comedy and he just wanted to jump in with both feet and he did it. Was he was great and constantly coming up with amazing ideas and I so looked up to him because I had like maybe three jobs to my credit, and here was this big movie star from you know, all these great, you know, classic classic films, and yeah, I learned a lot from them.

hiding behind your nose? Swears It's like because you're a rapist, and it's been proven time and time again. There is like a seething rage with clean comedians who are not clean in their regular life. Yes, it's like and they might not high ground thing, they might not all be rapists, but they don't like women or they have like, you know, fucked up views and anger and rage for sure. Yeah, I don't know. To me, stand up is so that's what I mean. If it's like your authentic self, that

makes sense. Like the whole point of stand up to me is like being yourself. And so if you're putting on and uh, you know. And that's why I don't relate to certain weird things or clowns or whatever, it's not you, but you like silly stuff because I love Rury Scoville, but it is grounded in reality and he is being himself. I just like people that are authentic. Yeah, I could tell when it's not real. And we know lots of.

like I, you know, everyone else. It might be like a like a shocking for a moment, and then it'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, I hope Jared makes the list, can you see it? He didn't. We were not thinking about when we made. This was New York years ago. Of course I'm kidding, but uh, the I mean post mortem for this, you're gonna tell him like Lisa made, Lisa said, you don't make the list. You had to

work on your fucking attitude. Speaking of I guess Rolling I didn't even know everyone was talking about it last night. I was out and I was like, what are you guys even talking about? But there's a new Delilla expose and Rolling Stone, a new new FBI, new victims, new drugging like fucked up shit?

in terms of he's a predator. Look, yeah, he truly is. And it's so funny that they needed this additional Rolling Stone FBI article. There's this is the third the La Times did one. I mean, this is like, it's.

I don't know if we really need to rehash it, but essentially, yeah, watch out for those, watch out for the clean ones, watch out for the nice guys.

they don't get fucked. Oh if they don't like said, yeah, I love that, I love that.

the point of my joke. And then when I started talking back at him, he was like, don't you dare talk about my wife. We've been together fourteen years And I was just like, you came up to me, bro, trying to fight about my joke? Are you fighting with everyone else's joke? Why did you take it so personal? I'm sorry, Like, I don't know why you need it to tell me that your wife loves using a vibrator, Like it's truly insane. I'm trying to meet Kaitlin o

Olsen right now. That's what I'm trying to do, all right. There's heroes abound. I'm trying to drink free liquor and meet them. Like, why are you fighting me? I don't need your insecurities right now? Oh my god, men are wild. Yeah, I'll write his name down to But.

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