Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful day came in. I thought we had like our little topics already said. We're like, Hey, we're gonna talk some raw. He had a really good topic around. I don't even know if we at this point, maybe this off is the hater of the year. There's some credence to what he said, but every single time he does some easy is on 20 content. He had a thing we were talking about with Mercedes. Hey, is she gonna move the needle? I was talking
about Paul Heyman tweeting at us and kind of go over that. Cause I thought some things he said in there was really, really impactful. And then I get a text message from E few hours ago, Tony kind, Anthony, Jermaine kind, he's Jermaine now has done it again. Anthony, Anthony decided to put Twitter X, however you want to call it in a tizzy. And we are going to talk this out because this is hilarious stuff that just went down on the X on the Twitter.
If you're not on there, you need to probably get on there. And then if you are not on there, if you're on there, follow us, that's FNW. Uh, Rhodesian East side. Hello. How are you guys? Episode 99. Hello. One from a hundred closer to a honey. A hundog. What is special and beautiful before we get to these incredible tweets going on with y'all? We get a watch the lions this weekend. Let's go. Come on now. Sunday night. You have M one. The state
is hot right now. It looks like WWE and triple H unlike Tony con. Let's get into it. Matt P let's get into it. All right. So let's start with the first tweet. Okay. This is the first tweet that we saw. I think this is the first one. So, uh, you guys know, or maybe you don't know hook cut a promo on collision. 32nd promo promo was pretty good. And he basically said that like, Hey, he wants to come after Samoa Joe. I guess there was evidently there were
conversations around what has hooked done to get a title shot. Why is he getting the title shot, et cetera, et cetera, out of nowhere. Anthony tweeted a double standard. And he added hook and said 28 and one career record on winning streaks called out the champ and logical challenge sparks on the line outrage. Gender has literally lost every single match he's in for the past year. Throwing my guy gender under the bus. You don't hinder, especially
from another company. We don't do that now. Immediately gets title shot. Where is the rage? He finishes that tweet with hashtag AW dynamite tomorrow on TBS. That's a hashtag. That's a long ass hashtag. No, he does. It's just a hashtag. Okay. So that was the first tweet. So that was what he sent us. And I was like, all right, well, I know what we starting with gets better. Roggiery tweets out talking about Seth and gender. These guys do have history. Seth Rollins
defeated gender Hall in the tournament finals to become the first NXT champion. The USA network Twitter account. If you guys don't know, they may be on one. Somebody knew was running. I think they got you. I think they got you over there. You were somebody is running that account. And their response to Rogers tweet was what was the cage match rating?
Now, if you don't know about cage match, Tony kind of a couple of weeks ago said before the ROH pay-per-view that basically he looks, he knows they're doing things right with the continental classic tournament because the cage match ratings, all of those matches are like through the roof, super high ratings. Now, if you guys don't know, this is a site that basically rates wrestling matches. I have never heard anybody who I've known in
my entire existence on this earth. And I know a lot of people who are wrestling fans have never once talked about cage match. So we don't know if there's 12 people who are voting on cage match. If there's 200 people voting on cage match, if it is 20,000 people voting on cage match, whatever that number is, this is the minority of fans that is voting on match quality and TV shows that Tony Khan is looking around, booking his show around.
Hey, you know, the messed up thing is that tweet out, I had to fight what cage match is he talking about? I don't remember seeing any good cage matches. You thought he was on both? Oh, no, that is a website. That is a website. And I don't have a problem with it. When he first said that a couple of weeks ago, of course, Twitter went crazy with it. I'm okay with every Booker has to have some sort of way of dictating their show. Right.
So okay, Tony's is cage matched. Maybe Vince's was attendance, whatever. Who knows? Right. But okay, cool. That's what you want to do. So that was what the USA Network tweeted. Tony Khan, Anthony Jermaine Khan was not having that. Anthony Jermaine said to the USA Network, he quotes, he said a moral victory for USA is one win more than their world title challenger Jinder Mahal as in the past 364 days. He double down dot dot dot because it's been literally
a full year since he won a match. You really put a W in our place getting Jinder Mahal in a big match on your TV show. Do it more often. Y'all remember the coach? WB. Black Coach? Yes. Yeah. The coach. Jonathan Coachman. Jonathan Coachman enters the chat. Oh God. Jonathan Coachman quotes tweets, Anthony Jermaine and coach says, we also used to get a muse at fans who counted wins like wrestlers earned them. Hell, if Vince won it, I could have
been world champion, but the storyline didn't support it. It's about the story clearly, not wins in a predetermined space. Thought a boss would understand that. Shrug shoulders emoji. Was it a black shoulder guy? Of course. Okay. Mikey enters the chat. Don't know who Mikey is, but shout out to Mikey. Whatever. Mikey says, Tony forgets that he literally gave Abaddon a title shot after being off AEW TV for over a year. Dot dot dot dot. The
same exact situation as Jinder. I don't have a problem with that. I mean, I have a problem with that because that wasn't Tony's thing. I'm gonna let you keep cooking, but should I insert my comment here now? Absolutely. We're here now. That one's not a little, that's not one. Cause his argument or his case is it's a double standard. Y'all saying that hook doesn't deserve a title shot, but you have gender over there and not deserving one
either, but no one's in outrage about it. I don't think that is truly fair with that person just said, but I'll let them cook. Go ahead. For Tony to be guilty of doing that. Is why he shouldn't be tweeting that. Right? Cause Abaddon hasn't been on dynamite or collision in 55 years. And so for her to all of a sudden being a few in a championship match is definitely like, what are you talking about right now? So I don't think he has a lot of, I don't
think he has a lot of backing in what's going on. Yeah. I think it's very similar, but they're a little different, but I think it's more similar than different. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But that wasn't his argument. His argument is the double standard part. That's what, that's what I'm saying. Like I get what I'm saying. I don't think, I don't know the big backlash there was to Julian Abaddon. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know
what the, and I didn't necessarily hear the backlash. There might've been a small, because like it depends on what, it might be so Tony might listen to certain sites, right? Like Paul Heyman obviously listened to the TFW pod. You know, let's go. He gets his key. So he listens to us, right? So who knows who Tony listened to? It might've been Joe Smoe's podcast and they missed something and it triggered them. So he had to get on the X. You know,
and matter of fact, why does, why won't X just go back to where no one calls it X? It's Twitter or as Rod I said a few days ago, I said, I wonder if he does eventually go back. And that's like a whole like rebranding, right? Like we're back and then bring the bird back and get everybody in a tizzy. What a time waster. But I think, I don't, I didn't see one person react negatively to Hook's promo for Hook asking for a title shot. I didn't, I personally
didn't see that. It must have been a very small sample size that he heard and needed to react to it, but nothing, you know, if you haven't heard, cause you're online a little bit more than me. So definitely if you hadn't heard anything, I hadn't heard anything. It had to be a very small percentage of fans that mentioned something. But I'll tell you what, play your hater of the year. Eric Bischoff enters the chat. Here we go. Easy E quote
tweets Mikey and says, Hey, and he asks Tony Khan, is this true or is it a bot? Okay. And that is to the response of what he did with Abaddon. Anthony Germain ain't, he ain't having it. He says no. And he asked Eric Bischoff, not true at all. Abaddon returned to AEW plus
then went on a four way match. I'm sorry. He said then they, then they won a four way match on TAT against other great wrestlers to earn a title shot, which is completely different than someone going a full year, losing every match they're in, then getting a title shot without a single win. After he got done cooking them there, he just responded right up under his own tweet and said, reading would be your friend, Eric. So I'll kind of
stop there because it kept going. This entire episode could be about these tweets. Wrestlers started tweeting. Eric Bischoff of course didn't let it go. I don't think Tony Khan kind of let it go there, but that's kind of the crutch of the Tuesday X Twitter meltdown. Hey, what did, what did Jinder say? Oh man, Jinder, Jinder gave it up. So now see this, see this is the problem. See the problem is when the lieutenants started just doing stuff,
what happened? Soldiers, casualties of war. Jinder, we ain't seen Jinder in months before he held his own with the rock last week, had a really nice segment with Seth on Monday night raw. Didn't know he had an ex account. Didn't even know what Jinder said. Jinder said, who the fuck is Hook? Watch Monday night raw on USA network Monday, 8 p.m. Eastern. Exclamation point, estimation point. One more, exclamation point.
Okay. Can I, that's like the dumbest question here. I felt like as a in-ring talent, Jinder has been off of TV just in general for over a year. Last time I saw him, he was on NXT. Remember he was, he was managing. Yup. Right. But I didn't know he was wrestling. Just real quick too. And then Taz, he enters the chat. Okay. Taz quote tweets Jinder and all he says is Hook. You gotta get the brand right. All capital letters. You gotta get the brand right
Jinder. Exclamation point. Come on now. Okay. Disrespectful. So Jinder had it just capital H O O K where Taz is like capital H capital O. Totally messed it up. He's like get it right. Get it damn right. All right. So let's, let's unpack this. Eshaan, you can take it first. Then Radizia, you can go and then I'll kind of just bounce off of, cause I got, I got a lot of thoughts of course with this, but what you thinking? So I want to play into
it before I say, I say something else. We'll wrap up with that. But let's, let's play into it. Hook, right? 28 and one, whatever it is. Yeah. Okay. So we're going by the record. Who has hook beaten? Has he beaten any of the AEW top stars to deserve a title match? I don't think so. A lot of it. No, a lot of it. And a lot of those matches were on the rampage, right? A show that less than half their audience watches, right? Against guys
who are on the bottom end of the card, right? So this was like boxing or something of that nature. These are the guys that should be even ranked that high. So how truly is a guy who's been beating unranked talent deserving of their most prestigious championship? So is this, but at the end of the day, it's wrestling. You can make it work. Right. I didn't necessarily care right now with gender coming back out of nowhere. Now at the same time, I replied
to Tony and I said, I'm like, you know why? Here's the thing, Tony. I don't think people care enough about gender. Mahal wrestling set problems to be enraged about it. Like I saw the segment and I kept going. Okay. Moved on to the next one. Sure. We might have an interesting match. It's wrestling. These guys can book people into any angle, into any situation that they want. This is a wrestling fantasy. It's wrestling. It's fiction in a
ring. They can make things happen however they want to make it happen. And all they have to do is create the proper story, right? So make us be invested in seeing that match. It's the same reason why we have Hook running around with the FTW championship, right? It's not even a real, satious title and he's defending this championship on his television program. I mean, they can create any kind of story or history that they want. I don't really
get where he's coming from. I got to, if I want to play into this, I think, I think I'm thinking Tony is being smart. He's creating controversy and controversy as Eric Bichard always said equals cash. He's creating some buzz for his show because if he's not, he got to be one of the biggest marks in the business to come up with the shit that he says cage match ratings. We're talking about win-loss records. We're talking about fake
fighting and he's getting hot and bobbing about him. Like this man, if he's really believes this, he is losing his ever loving mind. I love how you like position that to me. Like, what was that about? He threw it to the counter buzzer and just threw it right to you. Take it, take this out. It means I just might do something with it. Okay. So for starters, I thought I was going to come on here and just talk about, is this
double standard fair or foul? So I'll start there. I will start that the double standard is absolutely for him to say that is absolutely fair. I said it when you was first breaking down the back and forth. I do think that tribalism is always at its best when we have something like this. People are going to say, Hey, gender gets a match, but it's, but we give H the luxury. We give them the, Hey, he can do it because he hasn't failed us right now. Tony condor
or Anthony Drain does it. And now it's a problem. So I do feel like there is some issues and double standards there. That's a hard period. I'm in it there. The next thing though is now we need to think about why are we calling it a double standard. And to the points that you just said, like, if you look at hook, yes, he has 28 and one that is a very good record. But who did you beat? He ain't beat nobody. So we're in the same position anyway.
So instead of just taking things so seriously and being so like offended by stuff and defensive, take a step back and realize why are people hating on this? Or maybe it's probably your creative. Maybe it's something else. Maybe it's your booking. That's probably why people are bringing up the double standards. Um, but with all that being said, I think this is great. I think this is getting the people riled up. I think more people are going to
watch dynamite. I'm a watch dynamite for sure. Um, and then of course I'm going to watch whenever when is, I didn't see this part, I guess of raw. When is gender supposed to be going after that Monday, but the championship, I don't give a gosh thing about that match. But you know, I am very interested in seeing hook and Samoa Joe. I don't, it doesn't matter to me if I feel like, and that's the, that's the difference. I'm invested in those characters,
right? I want to see Joe defend. And this is, this will be hooks biggest test yet. We haven't seen him in the ring with any of the top guys. This is the first time. And I think their styles are an indefinitely mess. I think it's going to be a great match. That's gender boy. Look, let me tell you something. Gender hasn't done enough in two weeks. They make me care. He got his ass with by rock. So hold on a second. See, see, see E I knew you was
going to go there. We were at the first smack down together after gender won the world heavyweight championship. I love gender. I don't remember. I love gender hard cam. They shot, they shot right to me at one point. I was cheering for gender. You can't hinder gender. Gender's put the time in gender had a title run. That was eight years ago, man. I remember going to a house show and it's still cage match with AJ styles and gender mahal where AJ was
legit showing him how to work the main event style in WWE. You can't hinder gender. Gender just put the rock over a week ago. 171 million views later. And you telling me gender does not deserve a title shot. You know what I was doing eight years ago, two weeks before the Royal rumble, I was on the corner with my Draco slinking up hot things. Okay. See, you don't talk about things. Let me finish talking about gender. Yeah. Definitely suspension
of disbelief, right? Draco. Listen, listen. Um, gender. First off, this dude is when he came back after was a three LB. I don't even know the name of their group. When was it? What was the car? Three LB. You brought it up. Three LB. You gotta figure it out. Cheetah girls. What is it called? Whatever they would call it. Three LB. Three LB. Three of them.
So listen, MLB. Yo Dawkins was part of the group back then too. I remember that. Anyway, you know, we should start doing, we should start doing whenever y'all say something frivolous like that, right? You're in a pillory box. You can't talk for like a minute. You gotta get up and then you gotta get back in like you would in a hockey game. I might as well see myself out. I might as well see myself out. I'm gonna go eat dinner. How about that?
Anyways, point is we all know genders. They're just a placement. We know that they're trying to cook up whatever they're going to cook up with Seth or who they're going to throw for him. At this point, does Seth have an opponent at the Rumble? T-Man, look, you looking, y'all looking. Look, no, we need to stick on these tweets. Let's have fun with these tweets first. And then we can break all this. I don't care about
none of that. I just want to tell Anthony Jermaine Khan thank you because he brought that energy to X and Twitter. Going up on a Tuesday. A random Tuesday when nobody was talking about nothing. This man came out nowhere. He wanted to smoke. Bravo to you. I do think it is absolutely hilarious that even his wrestlers on his crew are on separate sides of this. You got Dustin Rhodes out there tweeting like, hey guys, look, we all just love doing this
for you guys. We probably need to chill out on the tribalism. And you got Dax getting on Twitter talking about some pro wrestlers back. What's Cash doing? What's going on? Come on. Cash low now. Cash low now. Hey, Cash with me with Draco. We both. We know what Cash is doing. We both at it, man. So the tweets. People who are getting up in arms about the tweets. This is pro wrestling, man. All of this is up for grabs and to have fun with. If you're not having fun with it,
if you're not laughing about this, you're taking yourself way too serious. You're taking these promotions way too serious. Ain't nobody getting hurt. Ain't nobody talking about fighting nobody. We are talking about tweets. You know, we talking about practice. We talking about tweets. We talking about tweets. We ain't talking about real life violence. We talking about tweets. One company does some little sly. Another, man, this is what it's about.
Hell on Nitro. They were giving out results on the show and even that's fair game. Hey, you can't afford to have your shows run live too bad. It is all a part of the fun of being fans and being in this world of pro wrestling. I am completely all good with that. Bring
more of that. Now, if I was talking like, and that's real, but if I was more on a, a serious side of it, I would say, Tony, how about worrying about making sure your, your main event storylines come across as good as they should, opposed to worrying about Junior Mahal and his title match on a random Monday night raw. That's what I would say
to that. But in terms of the tweets, man, let's, let's keep rocking it. I hope, Hey, hey, you know, it seems like it seemed like Tony Khan is just as invested in WWE as we are. He's watching the show. He knows the storylines. He knows how long this band's been, how many he knows to the day of his last match. That's how big of a fan he is. And you know what? That's, that's what he mad about y'all. He's sitting there. He watching
this good WWE TV. He know what's cooking. And he like, you know what? I can't do this shit on Wednesdays. I damn sure ain't doing on Friday and people ain't trying to watch no Saturday either. So what'd he say? I'm going to do it on a Tuesday. Guess what? Now I'm stressed out, but look, I get it. Right. Cause side note, no real reality. Right. Sometimes there's a pressure to perform. I felt that at one of my jobs, like I just felt like I was doing
great, but I had this pressure to perform. And sometimes you can be like your, your, your heart is critic, right? Look where Tony Khan is right now. Right. He knows as many as he, you're about to be in rumble season. We got many to come back. Oh my gosh. The rock is back. Yep. I get like, I quit. Don't forget about seeing punk. Don't forget about the person that you had to fire, which legit he had to go, but it's like one, two, and three on the
latest merchandise seller. Side note. Okay. I had to get rid of pump, but Jack fricking Perry, we need to send his ass back on TV since where is he at? Cause he's a devil devil. He's a devil devil. Like we saw the devil already. They going to add another layer to the storyline. And like he's the mastermind. I know we're going to talk about raw, but when we start talking about Satan, I'm like Lucifer, all those names. Stop. I don't want to hear anything about anybody who's evil. Like for real.
I think punk was trying to tell you that he was the devil in the original story. Oh my God. Stop. Stop. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, he's so mad at Jack Perry for making him fired. See punk that may have been on TV in months. So he got this pressure. He knows that right now he can't compete. He's trying to start a war right there. He can't win. He can't. This is a giant and he is hot. Just four years ago, this man was the Booker of the century. Everyone was anointing this
man with the king. The king, the crown was so big and barely fit on that man's Afro. Now Jermaine got that for, oh my God. Yeah. And now we are critiquing him left and right. Matt comes on this podcast. They can have a five star match for the entire show and Matt's going to come over. He going to crap on it. I wouldn't grab a match. Hey, he can
count on Rhodesia because Rhodesia going to love it. But Matt comes on here week after week and tells, say that I'm the hater, but disrespects the show and that man every week. Never disrespect. It is always constructive criticism. If people listen, when people listen to this show, they know. We agree that it's disrespect. I'll text him. He text me back. He text me back a piece of crap and he threw it to Rhodesia. Right. No, no, no, no. Hey,
he's just a planet character. He know I don't mean it. Tony know I love him. He knows I love him. I'm just a planet character. But look, he has a lot of pressure on him right now. Yeah. No, seriously. No, you're right. He does. And I don't know if he's cracking, but what I will say is those antics worked when they were in the public perception beating the dog crap out of WWE. That worked. We wanted that. I don't remember him doing this, being
this aggressive then. He did. Remember when he made the comments about Nick Khan being a kind man. That was when he just started the impact. Was it impact or in JPW partnership? Whichever one. He was cutting those promos every single week. He was out there talking about Vince McMahon and the sexual allegations. Yeah. Right. So he's done it. It's just now you and I'm sure he's probably looking back like he's not putting on bad shows on purpose.
We know that. We know he cares so much about his product in professional wrestling. So I'm sure he's looking at like I'm putting together the best product that I can. We're getting crapped on for it. We're given the best matches. We're arguably given the best pay-per-views. But then this guy, aka General Hall comes out of nowhere, gets a title match. Nobody says anything, but I have a guy that we're trying to promote and push as a great
young talent and I'm getting lambasted for it. Well, yeah, you're getting lambasted for it because, and I don't think the gender Seth match makes sense. I don't. I don't like this for the championship. It's a placeholder. A week before Royal Rumble. I don't like that. We don't care. Right. And that's what it is. It's like, okay, we don't care. You just turned a match that was probably going to be 11 minutes of a solid match to now must watch for your
competition. Because I know now I'm more excited to see Seth and Jinder after this. It's a backfire. I don't think it's as bad as the mankind thing that when Eric Bischoff gave away the results and everyone turned on. I don't think it's that bad. But so what I was going to say is that maybe Tony is just trying to create that controversy to get some buzz going for AW. Get some extra eyes on that match on Dynamite because he does a great
job of tying it back into, hey, watch on Wednesday. I just don't think the people that are out there for him to grab care enough about AW. Ding, ding, ding. And that's on the WWE train. And they're not getting off to see what you're doing right now. Well, it's more so to, you've already galvanized your troops. You're not getting more troops. Right? Your segment of troops is your troops. So if you do this, you're not bringing more troops on. All this
does is now alienates even more fans that may have given your product a shot. It's like, oh, this guy is back on his stuff again. I'm good. Maybe on the initial tweet though, if I was a pro wrestling fan and because remember we talked about this before, Tony has this history of playing the victim. So if I'm a pro wrestling fan and I like to watch pro wrestling and I see this tweet that this company, this guy is being the victim being, I don't
say bullied, but the woe is him. Maybe I would endear him and watch his show. But you're right. I believe you got your AEW fans. You got them. You probably got them super tight and you're probably not going to lose them. But I think that's probably was an initial approach. They're going back and forth afterwards. I think that was just to create a buzz. So to wrap up this tweet conversation, all I have to say is thank you, Anthony Jermaine.
We appreciate you for that. We love you for that. If you want violence anytime, just pick up that Twitter app. That Twitter app was probably calling him boy and he was like, I just, I need it. I want it. I got to have it. He picked that thing up. He went to town on it. I appreciate it. Thank you Tony for giving us content. Right? It's great content.
We love you for that. I talked about the player hater of the year, Eric Bischoff. Anybody who's followed Eric Bischoff the last couple of years, anytime AEW does some, he craps all over. They can't do nothing right. I'm not saying that. He has given them props in the past, but he made a comment earlier this week surrounding Mercedes. Do you have the
actual quote in front of you? Let me see if I can find it. He made a comment. Basically it was to the suggestion of Mercedes is not going to move the needle coming into AEW. And then he finished the quote off with AEW's quickly becoming TNA. I didn't like that, but let me see when I can find the official one, but giving your guys quick thoughts about him saying that while I try to find the actual quote. Is there more to that? Cause that's what I saw really quickly, but I don't know. Sometimes
I keep like click bait. I think that's what it's called. Did he mean, or did he have facts behind that? Or is it just him sounding like a hater? Because if it was just him sounding like a hater, my original thoughts is like, don't do that. Like don't put that negative energy on, I'm going to say on that woman. Like just don't do that. Like if she's going to debut in AEW, this should be a great thing. She should be welcomed. She should be praised. She should be held to a high standard.
Now remember, you maybe you don't know these quotes are coming from his podcast, which is strictly business. So he talks a lot about the business of pro wrestling. It is not about just giving people flowers and talking about great storylines. It's typically about the business. So the quote is this when it was asked, uh, what Mercedes Monet might do for
AEW business, he said nothing. I mean, how many times have we seen big names come from WWE to AEW and people speculating about how it's going to impact the business and what's going to happen and nothing happens. It doesn't matter who you bring in there. I made the comment and I'm going to make it again. AEW is quickly becoming TNA.
I don't have a problem with him saying that then I don't have a problem with it. I just thought that it would came from more of a space of him just hating like, oh, she ate. She's a nobody. Who cares if she gets over there? He won't come that way. Yeah. So I don't have a problem with that. I agree. 1000%. Man. And I almost feel like TNA was a little different. I just don't know TNA had the push that AEW has. But TNA had a lot of big names, you know, the main event
mafia. I don't think you're familiar with the Rhodesia, but they had Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Sting, Booker T, Kurt Angle was in that group. Steiner? Yeah, Scott was in there. I mean, it was a huge group and it didn't do anything for them. They got Jeff Hardy fresh off of Jeff Hardy's hot run. He was having WWF at the time. This
is after he had a hot view with CM Punk. I can't think of the year, Matt. But at this point in time, Jeff Hardy was to me as a fan, was transitioned to being one of the top faces in the business at that point in time. He left with the TNA almost immediately and didn't do anything for that company. I think the same would be said for Mercedes if she were to go to AEW. I just don't think that they have the proper creative in place to take
advantage of her. We've already seen Edge. We've seen Edge and it could be the power of WWE. Maybe the name Adam Copeland doesn't reside with fans like Edge does, but he should have been a bigger factor in that company. He hasn't done anything for the numbers and he's almost like another guy on that show. You look at Saraya, another big name came
and she's just another character. Now, I think that Mercedes will be a little bit bigger, but I just think the overall division itself isn't as strong as it needs to be to capitalize on her. If she were to be something tremendous for that company, they kind of have to book her like a Hulk Hogan back in the day to where she is the division. People are tuning in, not necessarily to see who she's wrestling, but to see her. I want to see Mercedes. It
doesn't matter who she's in the ring with. I'm coming to see Mercedes. I just don't think they have the proper creative in place to take advantage of her. I think you might get a small buzz, but I don't think you're going to get any of the WWE or NXT crowd that doesn't watch too much because she's there. So I do think, I mean, I said it a few pods ago where remember I said, I don't even know if Roman would move the needle significantly if he went to AEW. So I'm not going to backtrack
that. What I will say is she's absolutely going to do something for AEW business. No, they're not going to all of a sudden start beating WWE ratings or in attendance, but no, you're going to see a lift with Mercedes being there. You're going to see a lift in match quality. You're going to see a lift in merch sales. You are going to see a lift in attendance. Now, is it going to take them from 3000 seaters to 7000 seaters? No, probably
not. But you will see a lift. I just think him saying, she's not going to do anything for the business is a little disingenuous. So you think that she's a bigger name than Edge? Absolutely. Yes. 100%. That's a disrespect to Edge and his choice of career. Just pull up any of the numbers. Any numbers you want to pull up. Merch sales, like just anything, ratings or views on social media. She's her, man. She has a fan base that is
rabid, that is ridiculous. She moved the needle for NJPW. Now once again, they didn't go from running. Can I ask a question though? Is it the same fan base is already watching the product that's going to buy into her anyway? Because you got to think about it. If they're going to move the needle, it's not going to be the 900,000 that already watched the program. It's not going to be the 20,000 people that show up for those arenas. It's going to be
people from WWE side, the casuals, the people who watch every now and then. Those are the people who are going to tune over to AW to increase those draws. Do you think that she's a big enough name to draw WWE fans and casual fans back to the program? That's what CM Punk did for them.
Some, some, not a significant percent, but I do think some. And it's good too. The latest word is people in the know are still saying, of course we don't know anything until the ink dries on the contract, but she's going to AEW and they're going to make a big deal out of her debut. There were some thoughts that she was going to show up tonight if you listen to us on Wednesday for dynamite, they're in Daly's place. And I'm like, man, don't
have that woman come out in front of 2000 people. I forgot what Daly's place is maxes 3000, but it looks like from the word is we're going to know it's coming. They're going to make a big deal out of it. And that's what it needs to be. That's what it should be. So hopefully we find out sooner rather than later, or pretty easy. We'll say Sasha Banks is going to be number 30 in the room. Number 30, the Rory rumble. We'll see her. I hope she's bringing a writer with her.
I do that. Before we get to who she's, she's, she's, she's not to bank. She will need one. She'll be fine. Oh, I want to bring up the Paul Heyman. Shout out to Heyman. Somebody had put a tweet up over the weekend surrounding just Heyman has managed Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, Roman Reigns, just like the star power. And then I had tweeted that you can argue that he's gotten better and better with each person he's had a legit real artist at what he does each time he goes
out there. Salute. And he responded, quote tweeted. And what he said here, I just kind of want to talk about this really quick. One, you guys know we big up Heyman a ton on this show. I had just said, I think on last episode, he's top two. Uh, to me, he's my goat for sure when it comes to managing and working the mic, I can see somebody else saying somebody else. I get it. But he's at least top two, hopefully on everybody's list. Um, and he
never wastes a moment to either teach. He's always going to sell. He's that that's just who he is. He has the wrestling business. So he always is going to sell what he's got going on. Even the last line in, in this tweet was that's not a way to own property on the island of relevancy, right? He's always going to sell what he's doing, but he always gives nuggets to listen to this response. He said, you damn right. I get better with each and
every single performance. If I'm not better tomorrow than I am today and better two days from now than I am tomorrow, then I'm resting on my laurels. And there's way too many people out there who are comfortable doing that. And that's when he finishes with, that's not a way to own property. So he's gonna give us a little gimmick right at the end, but he gave a really big nugget there. And the reason why I respected that response so much
is he's talking to some people in that tweet. Of course we don't have to speculate who he's talking to. We would never know. But for him to say, of course I got to make sure I'm better every single time I go out there. He is stamped. Not that I would ever think he would go out there and just lay an egg on purpose, but you got a lot of equity, Paul Heyman. So for you to know every single time I go out there, I got to be better because there's way too
many people in this business that rest on what they're doing. I just thought that that was an incredible response. What's your guys' thoughts on what he said there? Super deep. And to piggyback off of what you said, I remember when Kayla, last day of the bump and Pauly showed up and even what he said to her, you could tell that there was some conviction in his voice. Like I know your work ethic, Kayla. You're going to do
well in no matter what you do. So that's just one thing about him. He is going to always perform to the highest level. Like you said, he's at a point where he's been doing this with 30 plus years. You could cash it in if you want to, and you still wouldn't be judged for cashing it in, but he doesn't. Yeah. Enough said. All right. Raw. Radija, what was some of the major, I mean, I guess we can, if you want to finish the conversation around gender and Seth, you asked that Seth have a, we're a
rumble pony yet. If you want to start there, you start wherever you want to. I just got a couple of notes from Raw. I'm going to save the best for last. One, what, Becky had a really great promo. Like I couldn't even hate on her promo. She brought things full circle. She talked about, you know, that either now she's either stronger since the last time her and Naya had that thing or Naya's weaker. I mean, like that was really, really well written. Kofi got his ass really handed to.
Hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Slow down. I'm just running it down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. This stick with the Becky one for a second. That, that is babyface one-on-one promo. Puts your opponent over, put yourself over, acknowledge you lost, but it's not done yet. I walked, I was like, yo,
and we know Becky's great. I think probably the biggest thing that I walked away with last night from the women, man, that match with her and Rhea at WrestleMania is going to feed family's boy. It's time. And we knew it was coming. I have said that that's my match for Mania, for Rhea for the longest time. And it's getting close. And that build,
I think is going to be ridiculous. I think that match is going to be ridiculous. I think that's a match that you could argue if it wasn't for just the top shelf matches that's going to be on Mania. Like, Oh, I could see that being a main event one year for WrestleMania. It won't this year, but she, this is going to be fun. This is going to be a lot, a lot of fun. But yeah, I want to just kind of stop there and just highlight it. Just how fantastic
that promo was. You think she's taking the belt at Mania? I think it's about time. It's time. Yeah. I mean, Rhea's had it for a year. Yeah. She's kind of bulletproof at this point. How about you? I didn't like the promo. Wow. What didn't you like about it? Generic. Oh, wow. He's like, he's like, as a woman giving it. That's why I'm like, God dang. Let's go to the news. We had a deal. We weren't doing that anymore. We're not doing that anymore.
So talk us through what you didn't like. You said it was generic. What was generic about it? It's exactly what you said. It was a classic baby face promo and it was long. See, and most of the Becky ones is classic baby face. I can't stand them. I think they're just too cheesy. No, I thought this one was great. I thought she had the perfect tone and how she was giving it. And maybe it's also different because she was behind like backstage and
maybe not like in the ring. I've kind of gotten more. I've noticed kind of my feelings toward people like again, Shinsuke, all his, all his stuff in the back or his animated things are incredible. Maybe not so much in the ring. Maybe that's why I felt that way about, about Becky. But I thought that was, I thought that was that she hit it out the park for me. She cut that in half and it made the same point. So re rebook it. Uh, she lost the Nia this
match. If you look at the storylines and where they promoted was five years in the making, they finally have a one-on-one match. She loses. So you got the rumble in two weeks. What would you have wanted to hear from her in that promo? A non-gen, a non-genery baby face promo that went on for 10 minutes. It wasn't 10 minutes, not even close, but like give me, give me something of what you would want to hear from her after losing against
Nia Jax. So I'm, I don't, I don't write promos for telling if I, if I did, I'd be doing it for Tony Khan right now. Um, it's just her pro. Maybe not just was just very generic. It is very generic. I mean, it was, you know, I didn't think it was a fan. It was fine.
It was a fine promo. This is one of those things to where, um, you know, I guess, you know, I guess maybe, I don't know what, what you guys saw in it, but it wasn't, it wasn't, when I think of a fantastic promo, I think of a promo like, uh, who's somebody like an MJF might cut or like a CM punk might cut on a, on a great day. Um, you know, a Roman Reigns type of a promo that wasn't that to me, that was just a basic baby face promo.
So then, okay. So you, you teed it up. Let's go to CM punk and Drew's promo. Cause you walk away. You're like, I don't know who I'm supposed to be cheering for. I'm just cheering for everybody. I guess I love everybody in this world. Double standard time. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. A W would have cut in the beginning. Hell they used to talk in the beginning. Every time they had the pyro going off at the beginning of their shows and I used to be like, shut
the F up. Drew stopped the whole intro. They commentators talking, Drew stopped the whole thing, told him to shut this down. He got to talk. And I am a double standard here. I, the moment that happened, I was like, hell yeah, Drew, Drew freaking cook punk. Let's just get straight to the point. Drew cooked them. Now I listened back again today cause I think maybe I'm not truly true in my punk being my number one wrestler of all time.
So, so, so I had to go back to listen cause last night about that. You mean that's not true? I don't know. I don't know. I would have never guessed it. I think I'm trying to believe it in something that's not there, but I'm like last night drew it's it like punk for no scrape them off the ground and take them back. I went back and listened to it. Punk comebacks was very, really good. So overall that whole interaction between the two of
them really, really good, but drew freaking cooked them. I think it must be said that it was one zero drew in that interaction. Love it. You know, one thing I noticed, I know like I drew did a great job was promo. See, I thought that was more level of fantastic. That's why I had, that's why I brought it up. That's, you know, those, that's what I'd look for, you know? Um, but you know, I noticed about drew me, he's a big ass man. He's a
giant. That's a, you know, manly man, man. I mean, you know, and I was, uh, I was watching with my wife and actually she, for some reason sat and was actually watching the show for a, because it's true. It's true. It's true. It's fine. Okay. No, well she was, she was listening to the Becky's promo too. Um, but I'm like, wow, you're actually watching wrestling, you know, you're not running this baby. Yeah. And we gotta get her on the show. They got
the chip. What's got him too? Um, but I was telling, I was like, look how big drew is. She's like, well maybe no punk is just small. I'm like, punk is not a small man. Spunk is a legit six foot, six foot one. I'm like, you know, he does a B he's making him look small because of how thick and big he is. I'm like, he just doesn't carry himself like a man that size. Right. Drew cares. So like a small guy, that's one thing I noticed, but
he did great. Um, with his promo, I actually agree with Rhodesia. I think he cooked CM pump. I just don't think that the CM punk that came back to AW is, is the same punk that left seven years ago. He's just not the same guy on the light. You mean WWE? No, I'm AW. I don't think he was as good in AW as he was in the past. I think it's continued
to WWE. I haven't, he hasn't cut a, I mean, I guess he has such a high, you know, work like standard, you know, like, and he just hasn't come anywhere close to that since he's been back and drew just gave it to him and gave it to him and gave it to him. But at the end of the day, I feel like he's just setting up for another loss. Cause I guess
this, this dude is getting jobbed out of this company. I feel like we are coming close to this man be out of the company and showing up, you know, with a being Owen 25 and getting a title shot on AWTV next year. That's what I feel like. Matt, before you go, you know what they should do. They should get back and be two LW gender and Drew. Oh no. Let's go mute up. Redisha hit that mute button. Cause I think 60 seconds, 60 seconds. Uh,
you guys were probably higher on that segment than I was. Um, I thought it was okay, but it felt like to me, those were two separate pomos from Drew and they put it into one. So like, he starts to show by saying like, I need to, I need to quit. I need to get out of here. And then punk comes out, they do their thing. And then he immediately pops back into I'm winning the rumble. And it was kind of just like, huh? It w it felt disjointed.
It felt like, Hey, we got it. We need to get to point from point a to point D tonight. So let's, let's get there. And I was like, damn, that's, that's a little bit of a miss. I thought the barbs were good between back and forth, you know, like some of the insider stuff about, you know, uh, complaining backstage and you know, okay, cool. That's cool. You're going to get a little bit of that with punk just because he's new back into WWE. But I
was conscious. I was like, all right, okay. It's cool. Now I'll tell you what. Elimination chamber is setting up to be once again, another can't miss PLE. Think about what they set up last night. We're getting punk and drew at elimination chamber. We're getting Naya jacks and Rhea Ripley in her home country in elimination chamber. And I get, you can't main event that with that, especially if it's rock and Roman, we still got to figure out
how this plays out. Cody again today, just based to his eyes on the prize, everything's going to work out. Okay. So if we just still hold out that it's going to be rocking Cody and mania or I'm sorry, Cody and Roman at mania. And we got to assume there's gonna be some type of rock and Roman at elimination chamber. Then that's main eventing. Absolutely.
It would just be super cool to see Rhea main event, a stadium show in her own country with the type of year she had, but we're getting those two matches and I'm here for both of them. I think drew and punk's going to be great. And to your point, Drew's losing that too, but that's fine though. Like I'm good with that. But yeah, yeah. For me, it just felt disjointed. It felt like, Hey, we need to get here two weeks before rumble. This
is a great story. We can tell with eliminate chamber drew, go out there and tell your story. If we're done with punk and my 60 seconds is over. So we're done with punk. How did y'all feel about the main event? Now I watched it. I broke it up a few times with Shinsuke and Cody and I felt like almost it was again, just a there match. There was really no emotions to it being a street fight that I think is called. What are y'all thoughts on that? For
and for it main eventing the show. Oh, I have my readers on it. Cause I'm finishing the story. That's what I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready to finish. It was, it was, it was great. That was a pretty good analogy. That's a pretty good analogy. Shout out to you. I like that one. I got my readers on. We finished in the story. I thought he's on what he was reading his own book and it's time to go to bed. Kind of, I didn't, I didn't
understand it, but okay. See? Yeah. I like it. So, but I mean, that's not a fair question to eat anything. Cody's in, he's locked into what you as he should like us. It's time to finish the story. I'm good with that. The match was what it was and Nakamura's presentation has been fantastic. I love his graphics. I love the video packages. I love the anime style stuff. Bell to bell, Nakamura is not the same person he was a long time ago. No,
he's not. And that's fine. But it's time to move on from him in that semi main, main event. He went from Seth to Cody and the first Seth match I wasn't a fan of. I thought they did a really good job with the extreme rules or whatever they had. The miss, the winning with the miss, right? Yeah. And I've enjoyed the Cody Nakamura story, but it's just so hard when you know like Cody's got to come out of this looking strong because it's rumble time and it's a WrestleMania time.
So like for me, the match, the match was what it was. I like, I liked the finish. I thought the finish was really cool. But yeah, I mean to East Point, all right, we're through that. Okay now it is go time now. You got two weeks Cody to galvanize your fan base to win that rumble and then we heading to Philly. Oh, we're ready.
So is that a double standard? Because we kind of just said, okay, well we know that again, that was a placeholder, but if we would have saw that on the AW, wouldn't we be a little bit more upset or is it because the presentation of Nakamura having his anime video packages and all of that being tied in? Well, you got to think, we're talking about championships, right? We're talking about who's deserving of a championship with no ranking system. This is just a grudge match.
No, I'm just talking about just in general, double standards in general. I'm just saying if that was, if that was main event on AEW Dynamite, wouldn't people probably be upset? Like we already know that Shinsuke is not going to win at all. No, because AEW is about the match quality. So nobody would say that. I'm sure if you pull the majority of people, they probably thought the main event was good. It was a fine main event. Yeah, it was fine.
Yeah. I'm just not, I like everything they've done with Nakamura, but I'm just kind of over what he is now in the ring. Because I think when I would say something's fine, I think like, so we're super fans and you know, five star matches and all that other great stuff. I just think the vast majority of people just need, they just need to be able to feel something and to be entertained. You know, it doesn't matter if it had like a match of the year candidate match or those
cage matches that Tony talks about. I don't think the vast majority of the wrestling audience needs that to say something was good or not. I just don't. So you know, Cody and Shinsuke, they do their matches. You know, they're fine. I think it counts the job. I think, you know, there are people who still engage into Cody after the match. Answer's yes. Did Shinsuke, you know, leave out, you know, still looking kind of
fierce. I think he, on the next feud he's in, I don't know if it's going to be as high caliber. I think he'll still be there. I think it did its job and it served its purpose. That's why I say it's fine. You know, I don't think they're losing any traction by what that match. Now, if we, if this was a WrestleMania main event type of match, then maybe we might have a different conversation or something at SummerSlam.
And we had that. Think about how many years, I mean, we can go to twice in a generation. Rock, Cena 2. Like if you look at like those three or four manias right around that time, every single match that was on mania, you'd be like, oh, I know who's winning this. Months out. Oh, I know who's winning this. I would say every, every mania. It's always kind of decided. I think what I want to say, maybe Triple Wasted this years ago, you know, what's
wrong with knowing the ending of a story, right? Because you go to a movie, you know Batman's going to win at the end. You know, you know, Spider-Man is going to win at the end. Well, you actually didn't know if you saw Spider-Man across the multiverse. Right. You know, maybe not that movie, but vast majority of the movies, you know, the outcome of the movie, you know, Thanos was going to snap though. We know that. But you still go to
the show. Yeah. We didn't know that, but you still go in and you, you enjoyed that the actual movie, right? Because of the story. And that's why the story is so important. Yep. That's why the story is so important. Absolutely. Matt, I know you wanted us to talk about on raw. Who did we feel was an MVP? And it could only be, only be the PR of the judgment
day. Our truth live, laugh and love. That is what the judgment day always says. Like we talk about Polly and I'm not trying to put our truth on a Polly level, but we're talking about when you, when you, you hit more than you missed, man, our truth. I think you said it before, protect this man at all costs. I think you all cause how can he still be this funny this many years later? I saw an incredible tweet and I apologize if you're a
listener and you said it, I don't remember who said it. It, the tweet said our truth with judgment day is Sammy Zane with the bloodline. And I was like 1000%. That's what it is. But not in like in a recycle of a story. Like what we talked about on other, just brings the levity, brings the comedic time in. Yes. It's what we needed, but didn't know we wanted. Yeah. Like right. I didn't know I was going to be in the same, he's ain't in the bloodline as much as I was
when we had that. I didn't know that I would care so much about our true in 2024. As I do now, but man, like the, the, the video package, when he was a baby, he opens, I was looking at the doctor and said, I'm going to be in the judgment day. And he said, you know what I love about it makes it so funny. He says this stuff with such a straight face. I love, he's serious. I love straight face humor, man. It is just phenomenal, man. And Tom, Tom and Nick
Mysterio, he was cracking up that whole time on the video package. He couldn't hold it together. Hey, as my wife says, Diego Mysterio. What? That might be borderline racist. There's nothing borderline about that one. He out here calling little people to M word last show. Not she calling. Hey, that can't, I'm just saying what Kevin has said. I didn't say it. Oh my God. Hey, you gotta call people out. Oh, I don't, I didn't have truth as the MVP of raw. I have Ria as the MVP of raw. Same,
same stable, same group. That reaction she got when she came out there to address, who was it? Uh, Naya Jax, right? And I'm sitting there and I'm like, she is a 100% heel on this television show. Outside of her looks and her being cool, there was no redeeming qualities about Ria Ripley. She cheats all the time. She talks down to
everybody and it's like, she is over like that. I'm, I'm, I'm so happy for her, but they need to, it's going to be interesting to see if they turn her anytime soon because her and priest still got some, they, but they got some issues between each other. And you saw it again in that backstage segment on raw. Um, she's, I, like I said, I got her going against Naya, elimination chamber in her hometown. So I mean, of course you can always just flip it and she's maybe,
maybe it's one of those like she's a star, right? So she's going to get a superstar reaction no matter what. And then the whole Becky thing happens. But, uh, yeah, she, that, that reaction, I mean, shout out to that crowd. They were all one Portland. There is some trash cities. When it comes to crowd reactions, Portland was not one on raw. They, they, they came with it. They gave it up. So good job to them. And I thought, and I thought I was about the kiss for you too,
before she walked off. She should have, she was getting close, but maybe, maybe we're not there in the story yet. And Naya has been cooking too since she's been back. Uh, two quick things we didn't talk about on smack down from a Sunday's pod. I want to get to, and one is just a statement for me. And then I do want to talk about carrying crosses new group. He's got some thoughts. I got some thoughts, but I think we're on a completely different side of the spectrum. And I think
Rodriguez is also on one of the other sides. Um, Mia Yim is missing something. I said that a long time ago and it is not talent. She's very talented, but she's missing something. And I can just leave it there. I think she got burned too. When she joined, um, the OC and AJ, I think because she was already kind of to me a little bit, just missing a little bit of something, but that could have been changed with booking. And then when she got down with
them and then AJ ended up getting hurt. I just think that the whole, then they got super cold and I just think that's what happened there. I think she has the potential. She got a great look. She can rest. So I mean, sometimes I see her, she has some missed spots, but again, that's wrestling any given night, but yeah. And I, and I hate to be critical on her, but she's absolutely missing something. I don't care about you guys follow the new day, like outside of wrestling, like their
podcast or see YouTube stuff. So when you listen to their dynamic with each other, um, outside of the ring on the podcast or on YouTube or Xavier's channel, how you think they will act is about how they act. It's about new day. Yes. Yeah. So yeah. Who's day you talking about the new day, right? Just, just correct. Okay. Got it. New day right now. I said, if you guys familiar with them outside of the rest of the stuff, the way you would think they as a new day, what act is about how they act
like big E is very goofy, jovial, Kofi is very goofy, jovial. Uh, Xavier is very quick with it. Right. The only, the best wrestlers and the best characters are extensions of themselves. I follow Mia Yim outside of wrestling. I listen to, or I'm sorry, watch some of her YouTube stuff from some of her gaming things. And that Mia Yim is a little different than, um, the baddie, head baddie in charge that she did at NXT or the character that she's doing now. Right.
She would be better served to find her voice in her character and do something that's closer to who she is. And that way it'll come across better on television. That's what she's missing. She's right now trying to play a character that's, you know, that she, that's probably unlike her. I haven't seen any resemblance of the character she tries to play in wrestling right outside of it. The only wrestler that I know of that can successfully be somebody different in the ring
is Adam Cole. The Adam Cole, you know, we, we mainly know him as the heel, the obnoxious, cocky, arrogant heel. He's not that in real life that I've seen. He's a really nice, like with the, the Adam Cole face that we saw, that's closer to Adam Cole than the Adam Cole that we know. Right. He's one of the few wrestlers that can kind of be somebody that he's not. And that's why I think Mia Yim is right now. It's so funny you say that because yes, but no around like,
personalities. I was telling Redizia, um, this was a couple months ago. We were at a warrior show, indie show, and we were in a locker room. And I remember guys just, you know, doing their thing, right? Some guys are playing cards, whatever's, whatever's happening is happening. I remember just looking at it and I said, it's so funny and I'm happy for them that they're able to play what they're not, like their alter ego.
Right. Like you hear a lot of bigger people who are completely gentle giants. But whatever that may look like, if it's through wrestling or if they are an actor or
whatever it is, they put on a completely different facade for that. And sometimes I think it's, you know, kind of that protection when you're younger, you know, if you're being talked about, or if you're a geek because you like, you know, art or a musician and you don't look like the hot musician art at the time, but you have genius in you, you create an alter ego. Albeit a rapper or singer, whatever the case may be. Now we're talking about, of course, pro
wrestling. Um, so I think, I think it's one or the other. I think it is, Hey, tap into your alter ego that you've created maybe 20 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago. And you are that person when you're on, when that light comes on, it is action and you're ready to rock and roll, or it is it is action and you're ready to rock and roll, or it is, Hey, beat you and just turn it up to 11. And she has to figure that out because she's too talented, in my opinion, for her not to be bigger
than what she was. She tweeted out Friday before that match. I think Bianca said it to her. She said Bianca had told her, uh, go out there and show who we know you've always been. Wow. And I'm like, yes. And I can't say that she did that in the match. Match was, match was good. It was a good match, but I just remember watching her like, man, she's, she's, there's something missing with her and I want, I want her to find it. I think, I think she's good. Somebody else I
think is good. Ian, I'm gonna throw it to you. Karrion Cross. My guy, I got a new group. Paul Ellering, Authors of Pain is back. Scarlett goes from blind to brunette looking incredible. Sent, he a text said, man, we forgot to talk about Karrion's new group. And I think he said something to the fact that I don't give damn bottom or it ain't gonna matter or something to that effect, sir, floor is yours. Why are you hating on Karrion Cross? Paul Ellering, Authors of Pain
and Scarlett. And you haven't even gave him a chance yet, sir. I know you said we forgot about the group. I said, yeah, because they suck. Damn, look at that. That's what he said. That's what he said. They suck. They haven't done nothing yet. Exactly. So Karrion Cross and Scarlett came out, you know, Scarlett has a new dude. Beautiful woman. It doesn't matter what color she, she calls her hair. She's just, she's just
beautiful. Karrion Cross came out on TV missing the same thing he'd been missing. AOP came out. They're just big heavy dudes. Right. Doing the same finisher that wasn't that oppressive a couple of years ago. Hey, Paul Ellering, you know, God bless him, man. But the No, man. He had that shit on. He had on the suit with the glove. Come on, man. What, what the Hall of Fame rings? Come on, man. Yeah. Look, 85 years old. So, you know, I don't know what we're
doing. I don't know what we're doing. You know, I would have loved for him to debut as the devil guys like that's Adam. Oh my God. Adam Cole. That would be nice. AOP and Karrion because they need a leader. They need somebody who's with some charisma in that group that can talk on the microphone to carry that faction. I don't know who that is. I didn't see that person appear on Smackdown. And then they had the nerve to have this new heel. They looked like heels to me.
All right. And they came out there and they debuted and they wiped out another heel faction that's just getting started. Right. Right. And my man Dawkins and Tez and Bobby. And what happened my girl Brandi? What happened to Brandi? She was in the backstage segment. She's on deck. This is what she did. Okay. I missed her. Sure was. Where's she been at? Hopefully she's good. I was like, maybe she's going to come out. She's going to counter Scarlett. Right. And I know
she's been putting in some work down there in the dungeon too. So maybe she's going to have some new things for your boy. And I hope she do. But I'm like, what are we doing with Bobby? I thought these guys were heels. Right. And they was kind of cutting a heel-ish program. And then you got- Bobby's Bobby. And then they sent out these big old non-charismatic guys to rough them up. They are the authors of pain. They are not authors of charisma. They are authors of pain.
They aren't supposed to come out, be menacing, destroy you, leave you where you standing. That's what they're supposed to be. You got to give it some time. First off, this will succeed because one, we know Karrion Kross is an H guy. And two, you've had AOP for some time and you debuted him. So it has to be some good plans and it works for them. Has to be. I am so for this. I think there's a reason why them guys been signed for the past year and we ain't seen them.
For this moment now. There's been a reason why Karrion Kross has been with the company for five years now. But you got to be careful because he was under Vince for a while. No, he's been with Tripp's. And he was under Vince when he first debuted. Remember that was the whole reason why I hated what he was done. He had the Faroukha side helmet. You don't know about Faroukha side. We're racing that. He debuted with the blue helmet on. He got fired. He got fired and he brought him
back. We're starting from that point. Yep. So then you just got to give it time. Got to give it. First off, he was doing something with AJ who was cold. I forgot who else he was going against, but some of his opponents just wasn't there. I am so ready for this. This is I think going to be, they haven't said their name yet, have they? No, no. You have Paul Ellering who's going to be able to talk for them. You got Karrion Kross and Scarlett, which is beautiful. And you got the
authors of not charisma, but authors of pain. Let's go. AOC. AOC. I love how you guys are. I love how you guys are just so hopeful. You know what's funny though? I love it. This is amazing. And I want to blow light. Okay. But he's sitting on this new stable and he probably should be sitting on Mia Yim too because she's been there just about as long and she don't have it either. We're not going to do that. But he just sat there and just blowing smoke up her butt because he
likes her outside of the wrestling ring. I'm not doing that. Because I can argue that Karrion Kross and Scarlett has shown more charisma in the last year than Mia Yim has in her entire WWE run. I can argue that. We don't have to argue it, but I can't argue that. I am hoping this works. I am hoping this works. How are you going to go backwards to tear down our sister, to build up this charisma's list, Jabber Crew at the dispense of Bobby in the process? Jabber Crew. They haven't had a match yet.
Jabber Crew. Jabber Crew. I do hope it works. I'm excited for it. I am thinking though, by some chances it doesn't work. We may be in trouble. So they need a leader. Look, they need a leader. Who can join it? Who can join that group to give them a leader? Karrion Kross can't carry. He couldn't carry it, but he couldn't carry himself. Who can they add? Somebody got to add somebody because most factions are usually four.
I know they got managers and ballets on the side, but who's the cool four man? You know who's the cool four man. You know who would be great. You know who would be incredible. Hill Randy Orton. He crossed my mind when I thought about it, but I'm like, damn, I mean, we got to get to, I'm assuming we're going to get to mania with a face Randy. I think so too, yeah. Like, right? That's why I just squat.
Or maybe not. Maybe. I mean, because we're going to, we're going to, this is a whole long conversation that I want to have maybe in the next couple of episodes because we do need to talk about where does LA Knight go from here after the rumble? We know he's not winning the rumble, but is it a Randy Orton path? Is it the Logan Paul path for mania? Like, what does that look like? Because if it's LA Knight, then there's a chance you turn Orton. I just don't think you need to
turn Orton Hill right now. I think you keep him as a face, but I mean, I would love Drew too. I think Drew's a good one, but Orton with two big heavies like that, three heavies with cross. That's, that could be cooking. That could be cooking. What else? That was all I had. We talked about SmackDown. I just wanted to bring up those two things. We didn't get a chance to talk at last episode. All right then. Do not forget, ladies and gentlemen, Sunday is our 100th
episode. So we are super excited. We talked about it on the last episode, but not many new podcasts make it out of like their first few weeks. And because of you, we do this for you guys. We don't sit here and talk to ourselves and listen back just for ourselves. It's this, the camaraderie with you guys. It is the connection that we have with our listeners. We appreciate you guys. I always say it more than you guys know. So thank you guys for continuing to get the word out about
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Iron Man match. And then we are doing our top 20 superstars of all time. So I will of course remind you guys again, probably next week, feel free to send your top 20 list in, feel free of course to do the watch along with us. Should be interesting to see if that holds up or not. All right. And then we are going to be doing our live post show for Royal Rumble on that Saturday night, was it 27th? I think it is 27th or 28th, whatever it is. We are doing a live post show. So we will be on
YouTube. We will be on X. We'll try to get Facebook going. That's your territory, but I don't know. We'll be on Facebook. Yeah. Only OB will be on Facebook anyway. Sorry, y'all. Maybe we'll be on Facebook then. Here we go. We have an awesome January, end of January. I'm so excited. We'll have some surprises on that Royal Rumble show too. So I am definitely looking forward to it. So there you go. And that is it.
I am done. We are done. We will see you guys on Sunday on our 100th episode. Talk to you then. Peace.