are we doing, I'm wearing green Greeks today. Yeah. That a thing for everybody. Yes. I'm happy to be on my green outfit. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Happy St. Patrick's Day to everybody. Welcome to the TFW Podcast. I am Matt, your host, joined by my esteemed co-host, Eshaan Rhodesia. Let's get this party started. We starting with the rock, right? I think you kind of have to. I mean, we could start with Mercedes. She has the wrestling world ablaze also. But it's up to y'all.
Where do y'all want to start? Y'all want to go with Dwayne setting the internet on fire again and setting SmackDown on fire and having to have a creative guy put messages out on Twitter because they're talking about his segments are running long and Brian is like his segment was 30 seconds less than the 20 minute a lot of time. So Brian, he needs to do what I said months ago. Shut the fuck up. It's the rock. That's it. These folks out here. I swear.
Yes, the rock is one of our goals, but the amount of people and it is the minority, but the amount of people I'm seeing complaining and bitching and moaning about the amount of time rocks getting on TV. Like, come on guys. Did see this is one of those moments where it's like, all right, you're a little too inside. A little too inside because everybody is excited to have the rock back. The rock is a bonafide legend in our game and you see near bitching and moaning about the amount of time.
Yes. Come on, man. Come on. But anyway, any who he let's start with you. So Dwayne basically made fun of your guy crying on Monday and he said that was your chance to come back. And what do you do? You start crying as a fellow. Cody crybaby as a fellow Cody fan. How did that make you feel? Are you are you like, hey, this is just the business or you starting to work yourself into a shoot a little bit? You know, I don't have a problem with Cody crying because you know what?
Because as a older man myself now, I find myself tearing up at random things. I'll talk about my family too and how important they are to me. All right. Just I can't talk about I was I was talking to Matt the other day. My dad. God bless him. He turned 78 years old and I didn't realize that he was that old to that shout out to that. But what I realized is that you know, since moving to Georgia that I only see him maybe twice a year. He comes down to visit me for Thanksgiving.
I come down and visit him during the summer. I'm like, man, you know, in the past five years, I've been here only seem twice a year and the thought of start tearing me up. I started talking about my family was important to me. I started tearing up. That's why I feel something for Cody. That's why he's so relatable from the core fans. Now, here's the thing about the rock his at whoops, we got company. So I can't I can't go in like I want to I got company his but he going over the line.
Y'all his ass going to goddamn far talk about his mama. We bring in mama Rose into this. The way I refuse to call you by a mineral anymore. You're the way Mr. Johnson, you going too far son. We talked about mama's see this is what I'm talking about. So you going too far because as a older black man, he should be bringing up the black culture and the community. What's he doing to Cody? He turned a young man down. He ain't bringing that young black brother up with him. He turned him down.
He turned on his mama. That's when he's going too far. I am I am no longer a rock fan. Whoa, no longer a rock fan. Our mama's into the into the equation. Okay, talk about the daddies. We built for this. Okay, that's cool. No, no, no, no, sir. You've gone too far guys. He turned you he finally turned you the rock is doing his job because if Esha when we just did our top 20 list, what you have you had on top three, right? Yeah, third or second. I think maybe second. Love it.
This is what it's about. This is the emotion we are supposed to have and if Roman Reigns gets his hand raised on night two because the rock interfered. God dog. Hey, Matt, Roman Reigns who we should talk about that guy. Hey, they got a next Friday or this Friday got to heat it up. He still go there man face to face with Cody. All right.
This is this is your opportunity to put the onus back on Roman and Cody for night two of WrestleMania and sell that they've done a incredible job of selling the tag match. They've done an incredible job of making us feel like what does the rock mean by saying he'll make Seth's title go away which drew actually kind of shout out the rock on raw Monday.
So I think we got some going there may you know, they're doing a fantastic job of making us want to see rock and Cody, but they really done much around Roman and Cody so getting to face to face on Smackdown should be pretty fantastic. I have a question for both of you and we're these I'll start with you because ease answer probably won't change. What's how is this run? For you impacting rocks legacy. He's about rocks run.
Yes, I think it's he can't get much higher than two because again Undertaker is number one on my list of all-time favorite wrestlers, but and I think he will always be but it's only going to make it better. It's going to make it. He already had a such a legendary career already. So now you put this on top of that already. Now we got to also see him work. So let's also put put that out there. Last time we saw him work. He was exhausted. He blew up pretty quick.
But again, he doesn't do it all the time but legacy wise. This is only made it even grander to me because you get somebody like Esha who had him number two on his list now hates them chopped them all the way down like come on like that. That's sky blue now over the ride. That's nuts. You see her lately you put her over there all over him. She's already in my top five. We got top wait, what's up? Five is we Tomo here. Oh, that's a good call. You're right. My bad. My bad. Yes, she's not that high.
Yeah, I thought about it and there is a possibility when this run is all said and done. Meaning when we finally do get rock Roman how that plays out. I actually might move him to number one over Austin. I'm thinking that highly of what he's doing right now. It's that entertaining to me.
Like I look forward to these Friday afternoon Instagram drops and he hasn't like missed yet and you know, there were there was some talk online about people are upset because his language, you know, some maybe some of the other talent is saying well hell if we can go out there and curse we could be over to but you couldn't but you can't because Seth was just on Twitter two weeks ago calling drew a bitch and I think calling rock a bitch.
He's not anymore over drew is showing you creatively how to use social media to get over. He's another one that is bad in a thousand right now, but that's how much like this run is is doing like the he's playing all the hits in a good way, you know, like typically you can come back and play the hits and this is like, all right, like you're coasted. Yep, you're at legend acts and you just going through your thing and he's not doing that at all.
Like the rock concert, you know, some people may not have liked it. I think the majority really really enjoyed it. But to me it lived up to the rock having a concert it lived up to heal the rock him bringing back the music and then flipping it midway through the entrance song like not just coming out with that music and even if like we don't get that again say that was just a one-off because hey, I'm doing the rock concert and I'm going to bring it back for people who appreciate it who enjoy it.
That's playing the hits the right way. That's playing the hits words like thank you for doing that that meant something to pose him just kind of coming out and doing the thing and he even like how the music hit and how he walked to the ring much more slow and much more methodical and then hitting that line at the end of his promo and it was like that's he shows the goosebumps all the time. That's goosebump worthy material and the thing that allegedly this was you know, we already said it.
I don't think this was the plan but this wasn't a plan to start. I can't imagine that that makes me that much more grand Romans bill being as good as this in a short amount of time right like if they would have went with the press conference rocking Roman and then to try to tell the entire bloodline story leading up it wouldn't have been this because he wouldn't have been the Hill and rock Hill is what's best for business cream rises to the top under pressure or just at any point.
So when you get somebody as good as the rock and he has been in a pivot happens. This is when the cream of the cream goes to the top. So II have a quick question for you. I know Matt kind of asked you one even though you didn't like what he said and I think he was personally attacking Cody's mom. I think he was just saying hey, you going to be in the front row. You're going to watch and witness keep her name on your mouth right? You're right. So let's go to the name on your mouth.
I appreciate that a little bit a little bit. You can't agree that this shit is entertaining as hell since he's been back. When you agree to that at least. Oh, yeah, he's entertaining. Definitely. I mean, that's the thing about the rock that stands him above like other wrestlers. He's an entertainer. He he gets what wrestling is and what is all about is always been about the entertainment. So I was being about the charisma. It's always been about the mic and he captures all of that.
Yeah, he's an entertaining man. That's why he translated so well to the to the box office, right? Why his movies are great and we enjoy his movies because he is a personality on personal unlike any we've seen. I'm just very interested to see what the Roman got to do because he's been he like is like I said before he has a quiet confidence about himself. He's not over top. He's not really dramatic. I feel like his music is if you underwhelming a lot to be honest with you.
Oh, yeah, just in comparison to the rock and his music just to me. I think it's very generic. So even when you first got the music. So we never separate. I'm not a fan, but I think it fits his character because he's he's kind of like a I don't say a slow burn, but he has like a you know, he's like a fire that's just you know, it's never out of control. It's just always burning is bright. It just comes right. It's not this big grand thing. His music is like that.
It's just like a very think it fits him. What to me like his music was always ironically like the final boss of a video game when you hear this music and you get to Bowser the final time. Oh, this is that so it's ironic that the Rock is now starting to call himself the final boss, but it's gonna be entertaining man. It's gonna be entertaining to see what they do to really stroke the fire for Roman and Cody if they do right like maybe say what if somehow all eyes are again on the rock.
I don't think rocks not scheduled to be there but something happened where he takes front page again because and it keeps showing it when he told rock to acknowledge him and a rock acknowledged him. He did not have a smile on his face. He still had a worried. I guess you could say worried look on his face and like he still knows that yeah, you acknowledge me, but you and I both know you're you're the head you can see the tension you can see the 10 and which is beautiful right?
I love the storytelling, you know something's coming. We don't know when it might not be WrestleMania night one or two, but something's coming is going to be great.
I mean if you think about high chief and tribal chief, I think the high chief would be the highest position consider the names exactly so and he and every time he talks about his grandfather as he should and as he would he always mentions high chief high chief so they're playing those little things out there that we still know at the end of the day one time the Rock is is the Dundatta.
But yeah, we are just you know talking to Brandon we were texting a couple days ago after he watched the segment and he's just like man like this is incredible like for him. He's like I feel like we're back in the attitude era and I'm just like man like we can't we can't take this for granted what we have WB was already clicking on majority of cylinders and now you add the Rock to it and it's just like this is what it's about man. It really is a man when I was watching the the segment with rock.
I'm like I bet this is taking him or he should back and choose like five or six years old. Oh, there it is. She's she's living her. I don't even know if I was born yet. Don't know if I was even born. You live her childhood back man. I'm like, you know great stuff. I don't even know if I was born yet. Oh man, eternal shout out to our guy. He sent us a question right on brand with this.
He said I have a thought and I want y'all to discuss on the pot do a double turn between Rock and Roman Cody verse the Rock at Summer Slam after the Rock loses big Roman return pop. The only thing I can't figure out is he says in every promo he's going to make Seth's title disappear. So we take that last part first. I think that's Drew's title to get but I didn't don't we are we all in agreement that drew again assuming drew has resigned are we all in agreement that Drew is going to win?
Yeah, I think so. I think we talked about it, but I think this is how you get there. Like I said, Drew made a comment about the Rock on Raw last Monday, but for the Rock to say I'll make that title disappear. Like I'm going to be the one not like hey Drew's going to beat you. So I think there's be something but that leads up to the chaos that I keep telling you about.
I think it's going to be from chaos from the moment of the tag team match on night one to the ending and when the thank you for buying a pay-per-view WWE logo comes up, I think it's going to be chaos non-stop. So maybe that is it. School. Thank you for buying the pay-per-view. How about that Eshaan? I wouldn't have remember that if I was only 15 years old. You use it quite often. How would you even Google that though? You use it quite often. I'm sure you figured out by now. What?
So what's your guys thoughts about a pretty immediate double turn? And I say immediate because in the eternal hit me up and let me know if you mean something different. But my assumption is we don't see Roman again until Summer Slam. So we see him drop the title at Mania either due to Rock's interference at backfires or whatever happens Rock does this thing. We found out now he does have a movie that he's taping or he's filming from May to August, right?
First, I think no July. So if the plan is for him to work Summer Slam, he can make it work. But so Mia my assumption is Roman loses and Roman is not even there until Summer Slam when his music hits after Roman in or Rock and Cody or maybe he's a reason why Rock loses to Cody. So I guess the question here is one. What do you guys think about it that a kind of immediate double turn?
Because then what does that do if we're trying to hold Rock Roman off until WrestleMania because now you got almost still like another half a year to build to that. So just take that one first. What's your guys thoughts on that? I don't know if we have enough time to tell that story. So to get that double turn for us to be back invested in Roman being a good guy.
We have what two more Fridays left until Mania and then if this is all supposed to happen at Mania and then Roman goes in my a where is the storytelling going to be? I mean Rock will have to do some really dirty stuff like at Mania night one and night two for us to get Roman to be a good guy and then for us to remember that over these next three months. That might be a bit challenging. I like it. I just don't know how we would get there.
If these guys were full-time competitors, I think it would be great, right? Just the thought of it the storyline possibilities are great, but it's just as I wrote each of said, you know, these guys we don't after Mania when when we're gonna see these guys next be able to tell that story, right? So we're going to get you know, we get some kind of double turn on a on a on a mania. We might not get the continuation until the summertime.
That's a long time to get I would say uninvested in a storyline right? Because a lot of things happened between that time frame, right? You know, they're gonna have to run back with clips whatever. So whatever their next stage on the storyline with rock and Roman, it had to be in a time frame to when they're gonna have enough time like this to be able to actually tell it, you know, I don't know if you know April and then continuing to in March is going to do it.
Yeah, I mean, but that but not March 8 August, but that's if they're waiting to do the match at Mania. They may end up doing something. I still don't think it's gonna be in Saudi, but they could do something like on Netflix to start the Netflix. You know, WWE family conglomerate. Hey, our first show is well, okay, let's take that back. So remember I said that everything it would be a disaster or failure if it's not WrestleMania Rock versus Roman.
This is probably that only asterisk that if this is like Netflix deal and to start it like you say make this gram poppin circumstances for it that this would be the only time that I would want to see rock enrollment not at WrestleMania. Especially if you figure out coming off of Tyson and Jake Paul could be some business there to be done, but I'm here. I guess the only thing that I am a little worried about is that they don't rush this and there's more to it.
Like now that the Rock is calling himself the final boss. He's got to be the hill in this. So this is the perfect opportunity to turn Roman face. We knew that any great Hill turn how you make your money on your Hill turn is through the face turn because typically when you are a Hill when you turn face you are now an even bigger face than you were if you flipped or just for your first time and I think for Roman this is perfect.
Even if this is by happenstance because I think originally the plan was going to be Roman is the Hill and Rock is the face. You got a beautiful opportunity to keep Rock Hill because you can we can start seeing how this could make Roman a sympathetic baby face if he loses because of something that the Rock did inadvertently or not and now the Rock tries to take over the bloodline and we go through that entire thing. The fans will be there for a face Roman.
You know, I kind of feel like it'd be easier right this do the time and like the schedule these guys it'll be easier to tell the story of a Hill Roman versus a face Rock because the Rock is already people already want to cheer him. These are already there for him. It's easier to tell that story in a part-time manner without having to change roles and get people the foot because no Rock is still going to get the tears right?
So now you're still kind of oh yeah, he's getting tears now like right because this is a great time for Rock right now because what I think that I think he's doing a great job against Cody and Cody's one of most popular guys in the entire world of wrestling and I think that code Rock is doing a great job of re like showing people who he is. I think a lot of people may have forgotten. I think right now I think it'd be easier for Rock just to go back to being the sympathetic. Well, I'm decent.
I think it's better for him to be face let Roman be the Hill and then you tell that story of Roman turning face after he's done with Rock business because he'll be around enough to where he can kind of tell that story in another storyline with someone else.
So if it's not punk though, like who else could it be like Rock is the perfect because he is so popular and the reason why I kind of would wonder and then of course everybody watching listening let us know what you think there's still a lot of ones up when Roman throws the ones up, you know, into your point about Cody like yeah, Cody got some booze during the Rock concert. Cody comes out for the dark match and he gets one of the biggest pops. Night.
Yeah. So like even even the face to face a week ago when he slapped Rock nobody was booing Cody. So yeah, it's of course in the in the vacuum of the Rock is out there by himself cutting a promo being entertaining. Yeah, the people are going to boo Seth and go and share Cody. Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen though. If they were in the ring face to face one-on-one and you know, and this actually got my my hamster on my will in my brain. It's turning and spinning.
Let's lead with Rock and Roman at SummerSlam. I don't know though. I don't want it. Let's go there with it. Roman could come back before August. He can come back. Let's say June start building for it. We know Rock is gone but Rock can still do videos. He could still do promos and as him being on the board or if he went to the story day, he's a movie star and he's on on set. He can still put things like Roman has to come in because he is a tribal chief.
He has to fight blah blah blah and then you can send the the Tomatanga brothers are they free agents or something? Maybe Rock can still be a heel and a mastermind not there physically but have his president's presence be known throughout this time. So then come August I can now see Roman being that baby face. I can see that working. Man Roman pops me. What do we how many Roman matches did we get last year? Do I know we got the the Saudi maybe we got the Saudi we got SummerSlam.
We got mania right and he only comes in. He doesn't promote those matches. I mean, but he doesn't actually do storylines. He maybe maybe twice but leading up until the POE is typically the same deal. Right. I like I know I know there's some thoughts about like, oh maybe once he drops the title, he'll work more dates. No his deal is this deal. Now. Yeah, they can add more dates on kind of like the same thing with Brock.
He has going to cost money to add them on but I don't I don't think his deal is backloaded for people who watch you know sports and understand contracts where it's like, hey, we'll give you, you know, 40 mil to start off with but then it balloons to 80 million. You laugh. I don't think this is a situation where it's like, hey only work five matches in, you know, 20 to 20 23 so then you can work 25 matches in 2024. I don't think that's the deal that we're getting.
I mean, we're going to turn we're going to turn a heel Roman who only should be seen three times every three months and against a part-time. You know, they'll stranger things can happen, right? But I was like, it'll be easier to tell the natural story as it is and then you can have Roman because it'll be easier right because so for instance, let's say we got a hill stuff coming in or something like that and he has a whole he creates a whole new faction or something like that.
Whatever, right is easy for them to turn on no Roman somehow and beat him down leave him laying right like beat him down leave him bloody right game sympathetic and he's gone for another couple months. Good ill fit the storyline, right? He comes back as the conquering hero. It's it'll be much easier for him to do this and get some established full-time heel that's there more often maybe that's punk right?
I'm not sure what punch deal is but it seems like he's on some type of a part-time schedule doesn't help his body either. He's due back this week, right? The 25th or 20th. Okay. Yeah, you see that II they they scaled it down to the same stage. They use that Survivor Series. So no big they put those tickles on sale and they sold like the majority of them in one day. We were already I think I like over like 12,000 seats sold and they put them up and sold almost thousand in one day.
It's like just the business is incredibly. So then okay, so they're coming. He's going to be coming through the tunnel the people or the the non Titan Tron stage is what you're saying. Okay. Yeah, and then they're using the same one for mania the raw and Smackdown and then they're using the same one for money in the bank. So it's like the business is so hot for WWE. Yeah, they aren't even using their staging because they can sell so many tickets. Think about that. Unreal man.
I don't like that though. I'm going to record and say that I watched WWE a lot for their production. So to me granted sitting at home, I'm still going to get the same production watching it on TV, but being there. I don't like that. I want my fun though. I didn't have a problem with the stadium ones is the ones I have the issue with that's not me with stadiums and yeah, like the Survivor Series. I didn't either because I couldn't see I'm four foot 11. I can't see.
It gets only perfect only people I saw. I think I saw maybe you don't you get your grow a little bit and they're right a couple quick hits for Smackdown AJ Styles verse LA night. I asked on X if you're not following us follow us that's FNW, you know thoughts and the majority people said hey, they're here for it. They know it's gonna be a great match AJ's and probably be give LA night, you know best match of his career sounds good. Hey, if it's not going to be for a title, why not AJ?
But a couple people are with me, which is match does nothing for me. Wow does nothing but is it because maybe how you feel toward one or both? It feels like for me personally not for the fans because he's still over it was one of those. All right, it's time to shit to go off the pot with LA night. I'm not saying just throw him in the IC title match a world title match. You know the Logan Paul's belt is gonna be his belt until SummerSlam.
It's in his hometown, but it's getting to that where it's like if you don't at least put him in a major storyline. I'm kind of like, all right, man, like I guess let me know when it's time to pick you back up because I felt about him last year.
Yes, it's not a missed opportunity or wasted opportunity because you can't see somebody at the top of the car that you would say hey flip them out with LA night, but that's just how I'm he's kind of stagnant to me currently as is and we know LA nights on a mean we know him in AJ's and put on a great match, but I haven't really been that high on AJ either. He's been better since he's come back and he looks much better. Yeah, but it just I mean doesn't do me anything for me.
Which side of the fence are you guys on? I'm there for it. I'm all the way there for there is no doubt that LA night isn't as big as we probably all wanted him to be at some point. We know AJ cells kind of hasn't either we all agree that since he's come back he's been better but every time I see kind of them together. I do get a certain feeling inside that I want to see them go the Cherish I just the intensity. Just as I guess his name is Daddy, right? I just heard that.
The intensity that I saw that it Cherish I mean I felt it. So for me I am there for it. Okay. Oh, he just took off. The kids got to him. I would think that he probably would say no. I think he probably I probably think he would say I don't give a crap about it, but it'll be I'm good with it. I'm good with the match. Yeah, I'm good with it. Like I know what it is. I mean LA night. I'm still for LA night. I still think he's good with it. Is I mean LA night, I'm still for LA night.
I still think he's nice. It's just that there's only so many top heels. They have right now. I mean when he was face to face with Drew, I think he held his own in that Drew segment. It made me want to see that in a few with them in the near future. I hope we get that AJ Styles is AJ Styles. I think there's a place for AJ Styles. I think he's like that that if you want to say rocks the final boss, I think he's like that mid-card boss.
He's that guy that gets the next person ready going to give him a good match. He makes the majority of the audience of their core audience enjoys AJ Styles still still gets a nice reaction from the crowd. I think it's fine. Okay, what else you guys got from a smackdown? You got any quick hits? Yeah, two things one that moonsaw EO did off the top rope onto Bailey's face. Haven't heard anything.
She didn't she didn't react like it was major damage, but that could have been nasty three weeks before mania that that that look painful that absolutely painful and then outside of that. I was able to see the Jimmy responding and accepting Jays challenge and I like that. Yeah, I mean again, I'm used to even though Jimmy is a bad guy. He's a you we still don't really get to see like that bad and that fire in him. It ain't time for no Jokey Jokey. Yeah, it's time to get down.
But he ended with Yeet like I would like to be like I was like this is I like this Jimmy. He like you little brother. Listen you little brother and I told you I've always raised you like dude. What's going on in that household man leave it to him. They're not even brothers believe it to like like a black brother believe it to a brother to say I raised you and I'm only seven months older to you. He thinks he's my grandfather. We only a few years apart. But I like I like seeing that from Jimmy.
Yep. I forgot to ask you guys last week just quick thoughts on the prime sponsorship deal. Logan came out there and said that hey going forward and PL ease the prime bottle logos and be in the middle of the wrestling ring. We knew Vince hated logos didn't he detested it around the ring not even on the ring, but we've seen it in WCW. We've seen in AEW. I think for WWE only fans. It may be a little jarring at first. I do think it is going to just blend in.
But what's your guys thoughts about having that logo smack dab in the middle of the ring? Vince is rolling over in his grave rolling over in his grave. I think you said that wrestling is pop culture. I think what made it kind of stagnant before was that it didn't evolve with pop culture. Yes, your your authentic die-hard, especially WWE fans. They will probably say why are we doing that? You're you're the integrity of the business of the company. Why are you doing this? But you got to keep up.
I'm okay with it. It is probably going to be weird seeing it for a few weeks and eventually it would just fall into like background noise to me. So I'm cool with it. Hey, look and get that money. Whatever. Maybe they can give me some back. You know, I'm saying maybe you can lower some of these ticket prices lower some of these things. I got to pay for it because I they get him so many different ways, right? Like cuz they prime had Logan Paul and prime had to spend some money.
They had to put some coins on the table for them to do that. Right. So I was like damn these dudes is just rolling. It's like Scrooge McDuck in all day long over there right now, man. Hey, let's let's let's inflate this deflate some of these prices. God damn it. You know Sam. So that way when Big Daddy got to come up in here this summer, I ain't paying 151 50. I'm paying, you know, a W prices give me a $49 89. No, you probably get 89 at the lowest announced a return.
So when Georgia yet they have not but historically to come in around they come around July, which is right around my son's birthday usually. So we'll see cool cool cool cool. Last thing WWE related before I got a women's question for you Rhodesia thoughts. Some prayers to Angelo Dawkins. He shared on Friday his mother passed away. So thoughts and prayers, of course, you know, we know how lost is just recently. That's never an easy thing. So hopefully he's good. His family's good.
You we know it's part of life. But damn whenever you lose people close to you, it can sting. So hopefully he's doing well. So we're easy. I said last week and of course you can chime in too, but but I want Rudy's to kind of speak on it from a woman's perspective. I think it's a little bit of fake outrage to be completely transparent. I also think it's a little bit of I have a fan base and I need to make sure that they know I am advocate for women's wrestling.
But everybody knows we love women's wrestling as possible. I don't have to worry about that. But there's there's a lot of there's some people who are up in arms allegedly because one of the women's matches are not main eventing either night one or night two of WrestleMania and by the two women's matches. I'm talking about the championship matches. I'm talking Becky and Rhea and I'm talking Bailey and EO now. I'm seeing a lot of the story for both dictates one of them should main event.
But here's the kicker for me. I don't have a problem with that. But I do have a problem with is there was their resolution for night one is to put rock and Roman verse Seth and Cody first to kick the show off and then have one of those said women's matches as the main event. What is your thoughts from a woman and a woman's perspective your thoughts about the women not main eventing but in order for them to main event would you put that tag match as the opener on WrestleMania night one?
I'm not even going to answer that full question. I'm going to just address the whole like I can but the point of I want to get across is the women main eventing WrestleMania. You can't just say just point-blank their writer they're wrong because I know that there is writers and you have to tell this story over time and you just cannot tell me that Rhea Becky Bailey and Neo is more entertaining than anything to do with the rock. You just can't to me.
So again, we could take the whole question of them put rock and the tag match first. We know that kind of the new plot or the new show run is you put your hot one of your hottest matches first and then you can main event with your your next hottest one. So I get that part there but it's the rock. Now again, could we I can come on here and argue and say that over this last two three months. We should have built it to where I feel like I have to see Becky and Rhea but I don't feel that way.
I want to see the rock on my TV screen because I'm not going to be there live unless miracles happen. I want to see rock ended on both nights. So for me, I do feel like a lot of times we want to progress as whatever box that we're in and that's okay and we should advocate and we should be and we should champion it. But I said this probably on the first 10 or 15 episodes of this show.
I'm going to hold people to the same standards regardless on if it's male or female and to me I do not think for me that I will be happy or think that is more entertaining to see again. I'm using Rhea and Becky because they're like the biggest like hottest women are already now to me personally. I like EO and Bailey more but I think as the the mass majority I think Rio in Rio Rhea. I think we may be that may be about 50-50 if you were to do a legit.
Yeah, because storyline that story's been going on for two right years storyline. I like damage control and that is actually when I am looking more forward to but I'm just looking at the pops that Rhea and Becky are getting and I just feel like I can see why some people will feel that way and some people can truly feel that way not because they trying to put over women but because they truly feel that way because they're big fans of them just like how I'm saying right now.
I'm a big fan of the Rock. I want that show to go off and I see that. Thank you for purchasing this pay-per-view logo. I want to see Rock on there at the end of both. So to me if you take Rock out of it, I can absolutely say why don't we have a woman match on there, but then I can go on and just say a whole lot of different things of why we don't have even more women matches.
I mean I can go down that road but as far as just to address that one question, how do I feel about a woman match not main eventing night one or night two? It's almost like I'm sorry with the most respect possible shut up is the Rock. I mean, I wouldn't even go that far with it because that's that's y'all crazy tagline for everything rock related. But yeah, yeah, I should hit the soundboard on a booth for that one. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, but I think the women supporters of wrestling are very very vocal. You should see like on the wrestling game front like man they like if you don't get like we don't we need more ways more ways is crazy. Like how to get these wigs like how that term is just thrown out there man. They are super loud advocates of women wrestling. I get it. And I think if it's another P you can probably get away with that.
But as you said with the Rock and it's such a huge match if you put all these matches just put them like on the board and you list them like the most important or from the top to bottom. I think though the one of the women matches would be there just because we got a we got to put a women's match there not because it's a bigger match with bigger personalities and more. I agree. I agree. Right. I think we'll be doing it.
I don't think that does them justice right there's any there have been times when you know where for me there at you know with the Sasha and Mercedes or Sasha Banks and Bianca Baylor match that was the importance and what that that match was that was there but man I might have a hard time with that match against the rock over our roll over the storyline that we have right again. That's the key thing.
It's not just the matchups and that's what it kind of would have been with Rock and Roman because we didn't necessarily have the story to support it, but there's so much story and character now with these four men and something that stake from night one tonight to to where you got to put that at the end that has to be the headliner. That's what people ultimately want to see because that has the greatest story the most intrigue right now at wrestling.
So I don't think you do the women of the service by putting them in a position to wear like hey, we're gonna put them here because we need to have a woman, right? Like I don't think any of us want to do that. I think as a as a as a black man. I don't like hey we got to put him here. We need to have a black person in this position. I want to find it's earned now. There are occasions as I said with the women a couple years ago to where that meant something but right now.
You got to have the rocket. Well, not even just the rock think about it. Cody Rhodes Roman Reigns Seth Rollins and oh, yeah, the rock but now let me also say that on first. Good luck to that crowd. Oh, yeah, they're done to have hours. Like, okay, who's topping that from an emotional investment perspective who's topping that? No, no one not the women either. So now that my full statement is said there as far as that. I can't agree that you do have rock two nights. Why do we have to have rock?
You know, you keep saying that huh? Rock is not on the car for two nights. He's only on the car for night one. Well, okay. Sorry. He's going to be okay Roman. Let's go Roman and bloodline is on two nights. Let's go bloodline. I misspoke. So yes, why is bloodline on both nights, but we saw this last year. We saw this with the tag match how it ended last year. So again, I do feel like okay, you do have the bloodline twice. You don't have to have the bloodline in it both nights.
I can I can see why somebody would say that but again, it just goes back to when people buy this pay-per-view there. They're buying it. The majority of people are buying it because of the rock and his influence. That's the fact. No, no majority majority is this finish the story. We're in the story. I'm sorry. Okay, I get all attached to that. That's what I'm saying. That's the point that I'm getting.
Yeah, and what happens in that match is going to bleed over to if he like right because like either way. Yeah, it bleeds over to the main event. It's still a question mark if he finished his story, right? And like the way happens at the end of that match. We kind of dictate what kind of story is going to be finished next night. I mean, I feel like it's a huge match. Yeah, I get it. This is not the time for it.
Last thing I'll say on that then now we have the opportunity to make sure that we are building women throughout the year so that now if we are not meaning Vinny since WrestleMania will probably be two nights forever. Now if they're not main event in one of those nights now, we have a problem because they do not know. I'm not going to use the word deserve but they should be main event it or or you could say hey, let's make a concerted effort going forward.
To night one is the winner of one Royal Rumble match in that champion and night two is the winner of the other Royal Rumble winner in that champion, whichever storyline gets hotter. I like that finish night to one. I love that you can make that concerted effort to do that. I love that this year just ain't the year. Yep. And if they wait to rock and Roman next year with no title line, maybe 26, how about we main event? In both nights the women main event in both nights.
You brought up Mercedes the last pod you were not too intrigued on the actual Dynamite show. You were excited to watch Mercedes. I'm going to have you kind of talk us through your thoughts about because we can stick with Mercedes first if you want to talk about the whole show feel free. Oh, yeah, definitely. We all saw Mercedes Monet debut on AEW television big business and she did big business, right? We had almost 10,000 people at that arena. So you can't say she's not a draw, right?
She drew 10,000 people at that arena. She also in her first segment. She did a million views, right? Now that's big that she that many people. That's one metric. So it could have been more right, but I think ultimately she big business before we get into like the ratings and overall show for me. I thought that she did I like I know this is a little some discord around if she should open the show versus ending the show. Let's talk.
I was I was I was a proponent of her opening show her with the mission statement. I think they did a great job with her, you know, just show starts off with the Mercedes, you know pulling up Mercedes limousine pulling up the door opens all of a sudden you start they get to the arena you hear CEO CEO the new music which is performed by Mercedes Monet, which I didn't know until I showed that on iTunes page and she comes out. She she cuts a very heartfelt promo.
She seemed to have the emotion, you know in her voice, you know, the less usable in a borderline of tears talking about wrestling a mentor. I thought it was a great segment. I thought was a great moment for her possibly. I don't know the word is he might be the highest paid women's wrestler in the world, which is great. Like right like to move those barriers not be to sign a contract right like so if we once again, we're talking about sports.
We know how it is somebody has to set the market now AW maybe on a whole nother pay scale like Osprey got broke off or kind of got broke off. Yep, they break. They break some money's they break some monies for these people. That's the way it should be. Okay. Now she just set the market. So the next hot free agent should set the market again, you know, that's this should turn into that which is once again makes the business so much better for all the talent involved.
So overall two thumbs up way up for you. Oh, yeah, well, I was very happy with her entire situation happy with her presentation. I thought she I thought that was a homerun hit that she came out and did I was very very satisfied with it. Same here my dumb, but when she first pulled up, I'm like, oh my God, that's a Bentley pulling up. Wait that emblem. I'm looking I'm like wait. So stupid. You had to read her zone. That's all. I thought you had a reader's on it.
She came up even if I wasn't even the biggest asha fan because I don't or a Mercedes fan because I don't think I really am the biggest Mercedes fan. That's not I think I'm not the biggest Mercedes fan when she came out though. I see why she got broken off. I see why she's about to be the leader of the woman's division there. She's a star money bag fire mode. It screams it her outfit.
She had on like just every time she disrobed she had another layer of of goddessness if that's even a word and you just overall when you you can't take your eyes off of her every little way she moves her mouth her body her hands or hips her little things were her little I call it the Mariah Carey hands all of that you your eyes are locked on the screen for her. I think to your point about do you start the show do you in the show you're ready to not had a conversation about
this couple days ago. That was the only option. She wasn't advertised. So you run the risk and yeah, we knew that she was going to be at the show but to your point a million people tuned in at the beginning of that show. If you don't make a mention of her now as a casual fan who is tuning in I don't usually watch AEW. I'm tuning in to see Mercedes and you just start off with a hot match or with Tony Giovanni in the ring to do a promo segment with somebody else.
I'm probably not turning back until somebody calls me or till I see on social media Mercedes is in the ring. That was the only way to do it and I thought it was fantastic. Of course. I love the segment like you guys said it. She's a star and it has nothing to do with how they shot her it does but it has nothing to do with how they shot her has none do with her music. It does has nothing to do with her outfit. It does. It's her. It's how she comes across that is somebody that is it. There we go.
We talk we talk about it and when somebody has it they have it and a lot of times you can't put your finger on it. But when you see that thing in that person you say man, that's what it is and that is what she is is it. I loved her line in there where she said I need to be here. I want to be here. AW is the only place where the revolution can be global. And I love that because there was a lot of that talk online if she cut that, you know, she had the the podcast interview things a podcast.
I just I know was interview and she basically said like I still have unfinished business in WWE. I'll be back there. But no shit man. We all know that right. It's these tribalistic fans that don't understand that everybody is going to go everywhere at some point anybody who wants to right like Osprey talked about he picked the you know, AW over WWE because the money was better and he didn't have to move his family. He's like this is a no-brainer for me.
Like yeah, I can go to WWE and be famous and work WrestleMania or I can get everything else through AW. But for some people that's like MJF is going to go to WWE one day. Yeah, and it's going to be incredible to see him on a WrestleMania stage killing it as MJF a little bit toned down of course, but as it's going to happen like I wouldn't be
surprised if Cody Rhodes goes back to AEW. I don't think so because I think he's like he's submitted now is like the John Cena of the next generation but say if he wasn't that he was still just the biggest face in WWE at a point and his contract is up. I could easily see him going back for you know, a year or two run just to tie loose ends up but that's for me where I think just as business is going to get to so we all love
the Mercedes piece. Tell you what else I love too is her first physicality was sky blue and she laid that forearm in and sky blue did a hell of a job of selling it and that was so important because that was the first piece of physicality that she was going to have on AEW that forearm shiver is what all the media outlets were going to pick up on outside of her promo at the beginning of the night.
If you mess that up, you're in trouble just like Cody had to lay in that smack to the rock which was a harder smack than with the rock hit him on the press conference. You got to lay it in got to lay it in because that is what everybody's gonna pick up on and if you can see through it, then you go through that whole thing. We know what that looks like. Did you guys do you guys like the finish? At the end of the show you got her coming out to save Willow.
So she showed that okay, she is a face because the woman who she was in the match with where she broke her ankle or she hurt her heel whatever was she didn't attack. Are you guys good with that? Or would you rather her not had shown up again? Would you rather have shown up and did something else? Talk to me about the the end of dynamite. For me, I think they should have did a better job of actually to let viewers know that she's going to be back at the end of the show.
As a segment itself, I felt I thought it was fine. Okay, I like they're coming out had no problems with it. Either way. I know we talked about it briefly. Well, we talked about it on the last episode. We talked about the actual card itself. So we knew Mercedes coming out and this is the thing about AEW. We talked about a lot about it a lot of great wrestling on TV right now. Lots a lot of great TV on wrestler right now WrestleMania season is full-blown right now.
Everyone's intrigued into it and people only have so much time. So we got to kind of pick what we can watch and this is a great opportunity to get all these eyes on AEW product. And when you look at AEW that main event did the least amount of views out of that show. I think that main event probably should have put somewhere in the middle and I think this is something that AEW is going to fix they're going to work on because they have a lot of positive things going for them.
But this is some of the details need to pay attention to so it can keep growing their audience because WB is hot and going no, it's not going anywhere anytime fast. But what AEW can continue to do is build great shows with great stars. I don't know if you guys saw I'm not sure I share my screen right now, but they have an excellent promotion coming up for one of their shows. They have Mercedes right in the middle. They have Bryan Danielson right next to her.
They got swerve right below the bottom row. They have the Lee they got Will Ospreay. They have like all their stars on the page, right? So, you know this show you're going to see an ensemble cast of like great talent, right? We didn't kind of get that with this show with the ratings. If you look at it every segment they lost about a hundred thousand viewers or more right? They started with the million.
They ended the last segment at 627,000 the actual overall show included under under run was under 800,000 people. Like right now what if they would have started with with Mercedes and they create some kind of a thread of her maybe, you know interacting with different people or just popping up in the segment make letting people know that she was going to be in that last segment because if you look at that segment as a whole we all love Willow, right?
Reho I like her but it doesn't seem like a main event style match and I think that was reflected in those reviews. So quick points to quick points something I really thought about and I think I'm going to stick to it. So to your point about the women's match main event in the show, I think that also speaks more to Mercedes is here.
We're treating this women's division like it should have been treated a long time ago starting now if you need to take your lumps for a few weeks or a few months to get to that point fine in terms of from the ratings, but the part about the ratings I thought about it. I thought about it. I think I'm going to stop discussing ratings particularly when it comes to AW less something significantly good or bad happens and I'll tell you why just really really quick.
We know they're in contract negotiations with WBD as is they're looking at for whoever knows how many years are going to sign on for a billion dollar TV deal. Their ratings are good enough to get a billion dollars. Now if their TV show starts to deteriorate again and we go through this cycle that we've gone through plenty of times right when they'll hit a few good shows and then it drops off like oh what's going on and payview comes and we're like all bad payview is incredible.
They got chance to reset. They reset is good for a few weeks and then you know that vicious cycle. Absolutely. I think about just like how I was extremely happy with that show on Wednesday full transparency. I don't watch collision weekly like if some somebody tells me something's good. I go in DVR and because I still DVR it but like we were out of town. I didn't get chance to watch last night show and I probably won't go back and check it.
I'll probably just like watch the highlights but then watch Dynamite. They're good enough to get a massive new TV deal with their fan base and their shows been great ever since we've had Osprey we've had Okada, which I think they're doing great with now we have Mercedes swerve is about to be world champion. They're moving almost everything for the way I would want them to over the last. I mean for me it's only been a few weeks. I know some people feel like last couple months.
They've been really really hitting on all cylinder. So I think only be fair. We got us. We got to start looking at this because we don't dissect WWE segment by segment and they do some things that we also like that match was fine. But do we really need that or that promo segment could have been better. Typically we don't look and be like, all right, but man that segment only did granted. You know one and a half million viewers in comparison.
So I think just we got to give them a little bit of grace there and Jim Peppermint from what I hear. She is more than just doing stuff with the women's division. I think a head writer or something like that, right? Like the VP I think of like creative for television. And if that's the case, you're starting to see some of those things that make a little bit more sense now with threads and such.
Yes, I get what you're saying about the ratings because I know that I'm a wrestling fan, not just a W fan and I want to show to grow but what I would like to stop seeing I'm not saying what you what you're doing, but I know that a W touted at the ratings in the demos when they were dominating now. They're not we don't want to look at her talk about it.
There's something to be said with that because it shows a trend that you can fix because for me it's not about, you know breaking down this this this company is about how can we fix things and move up for me is always about how I let me let me look at this lane how we can fix it and some of the arms is just pacing and let how the shoulders are structured and as I said last week my biggest thing was and you know, you guys are coming for me a little bit.
You like you just it's just not for you like no, I just think that they can do a better man a little bit. Now we were coming for you. We were coming for you with the whole Seth Rollins Roman Reigns thing and you was loud and loud and wrong sir. You were loud wrong II. When was the last time Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins before the Royal Rumble has had a match? It was 2019 but but my point with that was let me ask you a question since we going back to that my thing was on this show.
We ran a storyline that Seth is in his over with audience as he thinks he is his his his his music his is more over than he is Rhodesia said a couple of days ago when all four of those guys were in the ring that he was the person that didn't belong in the ring. So we haven't been a fan of him and his act in quite some time. So for me as a fan, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh now I said something wrong now. Go ahead. What did I say wrong now?
You said please how do I go from first of how do I go from saying that he's doesn't belong in? I'm going to other people versus I'm not a fan of Seth Rollins like how do you change like that whole narrative for me? I just say he didn't belong with those three guys. Anyway, so as I said as a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want you to answer my question since you're trying to call me out there.
No, what do you want me to correct so I can correct so we can blow it to show because we got to keep it going. What do you want me saying? You said that because I said that Seth Rollins are you a fan of his as I'm going to say you're been a fan the whole time. Okay, so I'm the one who said Seth Rollins has been the MVP of wrestling especially for WWE over the last three to four years. I have said that I have receipts of that.
Okay, so these road is a road road is a fan of his so Matt and I have said that maybe I actually I don't even believe that actually I think that his song has been okay, but we've been saying on the show collectively as a team that Seth Rollins has been over as his as his as his interest. So this a couple weeks ago. He waited and belonging to ring with the with the other four people. So now it's a missed opportunity to have a match Roman Reigns.
I'm just saying I was looking forward to it as a team. I didn't think we were looking forward to us. I know was missed opportunity. No all I was saying then of course we can move on all I was saying was they have they had a missed opportunity.
I'm not saying it should have been the main event of this WrestleMania and that's what I kind of think you thought I was saying like they we need to flip out Cody who need to take the rock out and then go Roman and Seth I wouldn't say he was a missed opportunity any pilly pilly is what I was trying to say. So I think you just said I think that's just what he hates and you and you're projecting that's all that is. So that's what you're not going to project on me or on my character.
So let me ask you a question. Oh, these let me ask you a question of rhodesia so you can comment down because I think you have your husband. How many times your does your husband say that that Seth Rollins wasn't over as his interest music. He says that all the times he says it all the time. Okay, but that but that doesn't that doesn't mean that Seth is not a good worker. I think that's the difference. You're a lot like these internet fans like we not talking about him being a worker.
Now you're taking but just overall to see I don't I don't watch wrestling to see workers. That's I see I look for characters. You can we call them a clown all week. You can have a constructive criticism on somebody still be an avid and can be an absolute fan of that person. That's what we do with a W we're constructive with a W because we are huge. Well, I'm a huge a W fan so you can absolutely say something and say that his music is more over than him.
That doesn't mean that you don't like the person anymore. We also didn't like most of his matches this year. Who said that the fuse? Yeah, that was that was that I've never said that. Yeah, I didn't like the Nakamura Nakamura ones. We talked about that, but we let's go back to his matches. Oh, we're circle jerking again. It was so so back to Monet and Nika and Nika more has one more few before I got it.
We got to have a conversation about him on this pot or at least one more few with with with that same mo just that whoever whoever I don't care who I don't care what the mo is. I don't care who it is. He's got one more few before we get on this platform and have a serious conversation about him. I'm sorry you go ahead man. He's a mid-car guy. He's fine where he is.
But um, yeah with Nick if he comes up with this cartoon one more time and lose, you know, you know, but no like we just uh, it's just like, you know, we look at the shows like it's just as you say, this is just constructive is not that I'm an AW hater. I don't prefer the show is that I noticed that that show I didn't think for when I if you're not a core wrestling fan, you know, you look at that show. It wasn't something that's going to maintain an audience.
It doesn't normally watch I thought they should come out there with the after the show like after watching everything you still feel like um, it wasn't good enough to have somebody who may not necessarily watch start watching or do you feel like okay now they did enough.
Yeah, maybe they didn't put the entire best foot forward the way you would have done it if you were the Booker, but you feel like what you saw on Wednesday if somebody doesn't typically watch they would start watching AW or at least give it a chance again. I mean, I got me if you look at those Nelson ratings, it shows it that the people tuned in they tuned out as the show went on. No, I'm saying for you.
I'm saying just to take the ratings out for what you saw with your own eyes was entertainment factor and as a as a wrestling fan. I never said I didn't as a wrestling fan. I wouldn't be interested in show. I that wasn't my point. My so yes to answer the question. I thought as a wrestling fan, so this is give you a bigger person that you guys aren't into as much as I am WWE 2k24. I think it's the best wrestling game that's been out in a long time, right? I can say that guy. I love the show.
I'm a super fan of it. Okay, that doesn't necessarily mean that I think that maybe road DJ who hasn't played the game in 10 years when she turns on she's going to feel the same way I do because I don't think that game enough is going to bring in newer people. I think if you like the game, you're going to see them prove it. You're going to feel the improvement and you're going to know what I know. That's the best one. They put out in quite some time, right?
But I don't think there's any thing specifically about the game that's going to bring in a newer audience when I watch that person. Yeah, and that's that's what I felt like when I when I looked at that card last night. It's to me last week. I got better than 24. I don't that's the best one. So you had that as the best 2k game the best one. So then which wrestling game do you have as the best wrestling game of all time?
Say what again, which wrestling game do you have as the best wrestling game of all time? This one so true. So not just 2k you have it better than no mercy Smackdown versus raw that 2000 version was crazy. All of it. You have it. You have it as the best wrestling game ever made. So like it I can't go back to how I felt when I played those games.
But when I play those games side by side right now, I mean, there's just so much more to do got you the action the graphics, you know, so if I can somehow, you know, take my feelings and during that time, maybe one of those games could have superseded but right now it's the best one and the problem is you can't go back because even you went back and play you like what is this jump like, you know what I'm saying? Like talking 20 frames per second all that kind of stuff and own say I'd say this.
I think you asked me about the final form. I think that 2k 25 they keep progressing would be better than 22k 24. I don't think they finished with with the game. I guess it's not perfect yet either. But again, I can say that and still say hey, this is the best game I've ever played right, but also a Jeff Lee say that I don't think it's going to bring in roadie. Who's probably not playing the games right?
I can still say that it's going to be another one that's going to be better next year because this isn't done.
That's how I felt when I looked at that a w card like yes, as a wrestling fan, I can appreciate know exactly what they're doing and why to put people with certain people in places, but also going to look and say like, you know what Johnny somebody who doesn't watch a w or watch pro wrestling all the time and they come in and see Sasha Banks for whatever reason is saying enough to keep them watching. I get you. No, I got that. I got that. I do I do want to give them their flowers.
On I have a lot of things to give them their flowers about today. Yeah, which one is that which one is a you? That was seeing punk. One in comes your town. I want I want to shout out Bryce Brinsburg the referee and I also I loved what he did and during the match with Darby and Jay white. He made them break the count. We give a w a lot of crap for their refereeing or lack there of no enforcement of the rules and they're outside. It was a spot there outside.
So all three of them are outside and Bryce is like getting the ring. You got to break the count and Jay looked at him. Jay didn't want to do it at first. Yeah, and then he did it again and it had nothing to do with the match. That's how I know it was more of him just protecting the rules. I look man like you if you're going to say out here break go break the count and he rolled out and rolled in and he said something to Bryce. I love that. I thought that was fantastic.
So I want to give him the flowers for that but to kind of eat what you were saying just in terms of like just tightening up some things what I wish that I would have loved for them to do was that we now we know Darby is not climbing Mount Everest. He shoot legit broke his foot in that match. Which spots was that recovery? He's I was when he was coming off the top row. It was a top row spot from the outside from inside from the outside. I don't know.
I just remember he said we came off the top rope and he landed. I don't know if he knew at the time but the course he did x-rays and but the universe is speaking to that man do it ain't you ain't supposed to be going to Mount Everest right now. So I'm glad that was the case because how horrible would that have been if they kind of use that as a storyline. This may be my last match and then he fucking dies trying to climb Mount Everest.
I'm all about you doing what you want to be able to do when it's smart, but he probably just want to chill out on that but um, so Jay white the turn Hill right at the end, which I thought was great somebody on YouTube had a comment, which I don't think we ever said Jay white was worthless. They made a comment of like, hey tell me how Jay white is worthless when you know, he's you know, they spotted off the record.
He's had he's been undefeated so far this year and I said, you know, we are all major fans of Jay's actually quite the contrary. Yeah, it's his position. Yeah, he was on a pre-show. He's with the bang bang scissor game and three of us is right because what they do they they broke up the bang bang scissor game right and immediately kind of thrust the Jay white back into that nasty Hill that he should always be for right now anyway, but back to what I was trying to say.
Um, so they do they do the the gimmick with they're about to break Darby's ankle. And I was telling little Matt like, okay, so you knew you were bringing up bang bang scissor game. I'm sure the week before you knew that was happening and maybe you don't know how you're going to get there, but you knew okay on this episode, we're breaking up bang bang scissor game.
Jay white use in the promo the previous week man, it would be a shame if something happens to you next week and you can't climb Mount Everest and you grab, you know a bat or you grab that chair and you kind of just tap it and then you run that angle to add more to it. So as soon as you start we all know everybody in arena knows everybody on TV is watching they're like, oh, he's really about to fucking break his ankle.
It still was effective but imagine if they would have just added that little tweak the week before those are the things where I just want them just to a little bit more right, but I think that comes from just the course of decades and decades of us watching wrestling. We can just pick up our life man maximize that moment. You got a good moment, but make it a great moment maximize it. Man, I thought Jay white I love that guy man. I like think he's won a great Hill.
I would love them to do more with them every time I see him wrestle and him go do his thing in the ring and then I see Rodney strong and as a champion I get irritated every time. I find a way to head on Roderick bingo. Hey, let's talk about let's talk about that that war low war and those my gosh, I thought it was so anti-climatic for me. I felt like did I miss something because it was like it never left gears in and he got choked out.
I mean, I just again, I'm I am going to watch dynamite this coming Wednesday to kind of see what happens after that. But if I wasn't so much of a w fan, I probably would be pissed and say I'm not going to but that match to me did not stop. You got to explain why because to me the match itself felt like it never even switched gears. It just seemed like a completely just like a blah for that. I think that was the first match of the night to like after following Mercedes.
Are you sure that's why you feel that way though? Because the Mercedes segment was so good. Who knows who knows maybe I think that may be why you felt but I but I still feel like that match didn't didn't leave and then you right before the match started it ends with Adam Cole reading out of the book of whatever he's reading out of and he's supposed to win and now he didn't so like I said as a fan. I'm going to watch on dynamite to see what happens next.
But to me, unless you're ready to now take were low to be completely by himself again, which he should always be. I think I don't know if I wasn't a huge a w fan if I would have been happy with that. That's nuts. You swerve is winning the title at Dynasty. Why would you flip it on were low just for him to lose it in a month and you know that he's winning that title at Dynasty so we couldn't get any any other kind of ending on outside of him being choked out. That's like see you.
Okay. So you so your thing is the choke out part. Yes, that's your oh and also in the match was just never got out of second gear either. So Lisa didn't tap. I mean, I don't think he would make like a job. I think it just I think it helped Joe more than it hurt war low to be honest. It just to me hurt one. Yeah, I mean I just I guess maybe because I knew he wasn't winning the title.
See finally, I actually agree with the road is on a w topic because I felt the same way when I actually watched that because I'm already out of the whole undisputed Kingdom thing. I think that those guys look horrible.
I mean like we just the tag team champions got beat up by one man just a week or so before right and then their big bad enforcer gets choked out clean on in front of their biggest audience in some time and now I'm supposed to take this faction and continue to take them facts this fashion seriously or or or or you can say now you just added another bullet in the chamber for Samoa Joe.
So when swerve does beat him it means even more like like what's more important at this point protecting war low or getting swerve where he needs to get to and we will say we will all say the latter is the last word for sure is to get to so he's got to like he's got to lose ain't no ain't no shame in losing the smoke. You know what I'm gonna be like the great Donald Trump man. I'm not gonna let you back me in the corner. There's a third option was third option is a not booked a match number two.
You can you can protect war low right or in another one get these clowns off my TV. I don't need to see the under can't under underwhelming. That's right. The underwhelming the underwhelming Kingdom of Science on my TV, right? I don't need to see him like it get this a preface of things need to do you may just given us our you may have given us our title the under Kingdom that is fantastic. Yeah, no, it now if I was booking it. No, I wouldn't have done it that way.
I would have probably had the Kingdom try to interfere somehow maybe in that fires. I would have done something different. I'm saying in totality if we got to do one or the other give me maybe I'm just on a high. I know swerve is winning the title. Yeah, like so I'm just like, all right, whatever we got to do to get to that point. Okay, whatever. I'm good with it. I just got a couple of production things and then I'm done one.
I absolutely loved after the Mercedes thing when Renee I forgot who she was interviewing. I might have been Joe. She was actually interviewing Joe. The first thing she said was hey, she addressed that we just saw Mercedes because they just came back from commercial and she had mentioned that the Mercedes returned welcome. That's something I don't think we've gotten before. So I really love that. I love the new I'm gonna call it a commercial their new Dynamite commercial that is all fire to me.
Like I thought the production and how look yes very NXT 2.0 ish looking but I liked it. It was really cool. I mean, then just my last part my worry and my concern and that was one of the reasons to why I wanted Osprey to go to WWE was him being able to talk on a mic and he proved me wrong. He smoked it. Loved his promo. Yeah, I love it. It was him and you could tell it was him and for him to have that passion.
Oh my and then just like the little things about what I love about Osprey to he's super hyped super and then he tosses the mic back to Tony Siobhan and shook his hand and left valiantly like I loved everything about that. So were my only concern I felt about will that maybe he doesn't have it on the mic at least on Dynamite. He proved me wrong. I spray as a star comes across as a star. It looks like a star. They're doing him right. They're doing Okada, right? They started with Mercedes, right?
As of right now and we really early in it. They're three for three, you know, the Copeland and Christian thing is still going on the jury's out on that. We know the jury's been out. Well, the majority of their signings started strong and then kind of died died out outside of Brian outside of coal. They there they got some really good momentum. So right now I'm really happy with where they are and I just got to keep building. They got to keep building.
We you know, I guess we'll hear from Mercedes Wednesday. We still don't know what her first few is going to be. So it should be good. It should be really good last thing on AW and then we can get out of here. Where does a where does Mercedes debut rank? In a W. And just how much you enjoyed it. So just enjoyment level not impact. We'll talk about that in a few weeks, but enjoyment level when it was, you know, 815 or 820 whatever time that segment was over. Are you putting it?
After punk one or two you put it before punk one or two you putting it before coal you putting it after coal you putting it after Brian where you putting it at? Oh, they're close to me punk and Mercedes are close. I kind of you know, the being a big seeing punk fan in me. I thought it was just I thought the guy was never going to come back and wrestle again just based on all the interviews and his attitude towards and seem like it just almost changed overnight.
So seeing him back was big for me as a fan, but I love the all the positivity around Mercedes and her debut. I think they did right by whether they view I think they did. I mean they did everything everything they can do. I think he did it. Correct way. I love that that she got the proper intro into into that company. I guess I might I know some cop. I might say it's they're they're side by side. You going to tie there right there. Right there.
My favorite is purely just based off of my fandom for the person and I still don't know who to me personally who's going to beat the return of Brian Danza that that just that meant so much to me that hit me so deep so mine is Brian solid with Mercedes probably after that. So after that one, yeah, and what it was because you had cold 30 seconds before that it was the back to back that was just like what the fuck is happening right now? In terms of enjoyment level, I'm going to go third.
I'm a gold. Nothing's ever going to touch touch punt his first comeback nothing outside of MJF was to debut at WrestleMania cost Cody the match right like something astronomical for that to touch the last dance or the first dance thing they caught it. So give me that one first and then I would take the coal and Brian combo because we were there live because I just remember that feeling of man they have really arrived. I'm just the glee in the concessions of walking all of us walking to the car.
We just like yo, what do we just see? I can't believe they did that and then I will go Mercedes but I would probably say from a perspective of watching it and feeling like this can be massive. It's number two. That is the feeling I have watching it. It's just like if they do this, right? We know what Mercedes brings to table. Hell you brought up her song that's on Apple music.
If they do like top 20 after the first 24 hours of like all songs fan base is like that big near that, you know, rabbit for her. It's not that good. It's okay. But the top 20 don't get us cancer of all this shit that we said don't get us cancer because you said her song is just okay. Hey, I'll be honest with you. I won't get over. I went to talk about the song. I don't want to I want to go and do it. I'm like, we all agree. We all agree that is what is known need not be said.
Hey, but we can't but we can't talk about next week is that we got a brand new tournament happening on a W always television. You have the brackets in front of you. I don't but we can look at him this week man. Brody. I know you gonna be excited about this. We got the ROH TV Women's Championship. Yes. I thought you talked about the tag team. No, baby. I'm talking about the ROH TV Women's Championship, baby. You got to talk about. Oh, come on. What am I doing? What am I what am I clapping for?
They the crowd. Check up on me. Make sure I'm feeling all right. You all may not hear from me on Wednesday. I can't I can't I can't talk about it. Oh, wait. Frackin tournament. That's not happening. We out of here y'all catch y'all on Wednesday. That's nuts.