In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their current favorite things, including PJ Morton and JoJo’s new song “My Peace” and the Peacock show “Bel-Air.” In the second segment, they talk through how Kim and Kanye’s divorce shows that stalking and harassment are never OK, why everybody needs to stay up to date on the war in Ukraine, and how people’s issues with Rihanna’s pregnancy are another example of how Black women are treated like products instead of people. In the third segment, Jenn and...
Mar 02, 2022•40 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the recent increase in Black deaths from suicide and why it is imperative that we seek healing in 2022. In the second segment, they discuss bell hooks’s book Sisters of the Yam, talk through the troubling statistics around Black mental health, and share their “4 Steps to Moving as a Healing Black Person in 2022”. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on their own mental health journeys and explain why it is so important that we support each o...
Feb 09, 2022•35 min
Jenn and Daren start season 3 of That Black Couple with a rundown episode covering some of the hottest topics of the month. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share what has been on their minds like the little known long-term success of recent chart topper Muni Long (Hrs And Hrs), the merits of white on white violence in HBO’s Euphoria, why they’d both rather have a “sex tape” go public than a “spit tape”. In the second segment, they explain why celebrity divorces can be a “good’ thing and why...
Jan 22, 2022•47 min
Jenn and Daren close out the season looking back at how far they’ve come in the 5 years that they’ve been creating the That Black Couple podcast and announce what listeners have to look forward to in 2022. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about what changes you can expect in season 3 of TBC. All of the graphics will be getting a facelift, and they will be altering the structure of the episodes. In the second segment, they discuss their other business ventures, all held under their umbre...
Jan 18, 2022•20 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren laugh their way through their favorite drags of the first 2 seasons, focusing on what makes Kenya Barris's shows tick and why white people should be cleaning up after Octavia Spencer for the rest of her life. In the second segment, they discuss their favorite intellectual moments of the first 2 seasons from the "Millennials and Interracial Dating" and "Black Sleep Matters" episodes. They delve into the challenges of being the Black person in an interracial co...
Dec 13, 2021•1 hr 11 min
In the first segment "First Things First," Jenn and Daren talk about how important it is to take lessons from the past year or two since COVID-19. For Black people, this time has shown us exactly how anti-Black and white supremacist these institutions are and how they often harm Black life. In the second segment, "The Conversation," Daren shares the data about the increased vulnerability of Black folx and other people of color during the COVID-19 crisis. Jenn explains how this disproportionate m...
Jul 19, 2021•31 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through their own relationship with the church and spirituality and the difficulty they had in finding a church for their own family. In the second segment, they invite Jenn’s partner Tia into the conversation to discuss why Black millennials are leaving the church and how they have come to adopt alternative forms of church. In the third segment, Jenn, Daren, and Tia discuss how young Black folx are looking for holistic fulfillment of their spirituality ...
Mar 15, 2021•1 hr 12 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through how the COVID-19 pandemic has been an opportunity for self-exploration and the start of new ventures. In the second segment, they discuss how they discovered their own sexual (asexual) and gender (gender fluid/genderqueer) identities and what those identities mean. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how asexuality and gender fluidity/genderqueerness have shown up in their lives from childhood to present and why it is important to hol...
Oct 31, 2020•50 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren recap how the term “entanglement” exploded over the summer and how it exposed people’s ignorance around polyamory. In the second segment, they unpack what an entanglement is, debunk its negative stereotypes, and show how polyamory is all about responsibility, open communication, respect, and ongoing commitment. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how society shapes how we believe we should live our lives even though every societal norm is just mad...
Oct 06, 2020•1 hr 6 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through why Kanye West’s and Terry Crews’ recent headline-making actions are proof that we shouldn’t root for everybody Black. In the second segment, they dive into a deep discussion on how Black Entertainment has largely not been held accountable for advancing Black narratives in TV. They also explain why it is important that we hold people like Kenya Barris and Issa Rae accountable for their art while not “canceling” them. In the third segment, Jenn an...
Aug 01, 2020•1 hr 22 min
In this Mother’s Day episode, Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of mothers and “other mothers” both in their lives and the lives of Black folx at large. They also dive into the importance of parenting without adhering to societal gender roles and against harmful norms. They talk about Dwayne Wade's and Gabrielle Union’s parenting choices with Zaya Wade as the family navigates transphobia and protecting Black child. Articles for Reference: * Gender Differences in Time Spent on Parenting and D...
May 10, 2020•35 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain where they've been for the last 4 months while the podcast has been on hiatus. In the second segment, they discuss some of the major topics they've missed during the hiatus. They cover new polyamorous developments, the roster of Democratic Presidential candidates, the recent race issues at Syracuse University, Cynthia Erivo's racist comments, how Black feminism didn't come from white women, and all things Lizzo. In the Reflection, Jenn and Daren talk ...
Dec 19, 2019•1 hr 9 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain what it is like to maintain a relationship with one polyamorous person and one monogamous person. In the second segment, they discuss polyamory’s progress through history and some of its most common misconceptions. In the Interview, Jenn and Daren chat with Jasmine and Mo Banks from the Parenting Is Political Podcast and dig into the roles polyamory has played in their lives. In the Reflection, Jenn, Daren, Jasmine, and Mo all share the messages that ...
Jul 12, 2019•1 hr 9 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren introduce a listener’s question and the reason why they enlisted a panel of people experienced in interracial dating to provide their insight and share their experiences. In the second segment, Jenn, Daren, and their panel discuss gender and racial dynamics within relationships from how “the gaze” can cause discomfort and fear to the rarity of resources that deal with interracial relationships that do not include a white person. In the third segment, Jenn and...
Apr 01, 2019•49 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain why they decided to stop making New Year’s Resolutions. In the second segment, they interrogate the concept of New Year’s Resolutions, explain why they fail, and suggest alternatives. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren share their past failed resolutions and why they have “unburdened” themselves from strict goals. Articles for reference: * New Year, Same Me http://watercoolerconvos.com/2019/01/07/new-year-resolutions-anxiety/ * The History of New Ye...
Feb 14, 2019•47 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about how lack of sleep in the short term has afforded them time to get things done at the expense of their own wellness. In the second segment, they discuss how lack of sleep and sleep disorders have extraordinarily dangerous side effects for racial minorities yet it is often overlooked or even expected. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how they have come to realize the extreme importance of sleep in their lives, as evidenced by Angela Ba...
Nov 26, 2018•43 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the listener question that prompted this episode and the common perceptions people have of spanking. In the second segment, they discuss the studies around acceptance of spanking in the U.S., how spanking is still allowed in schools, and the country’s history of corporal punishment. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren outline their parenting approach and how they came to realize the many reasons why spanking is a bad practice for kids. Articles for r...
Aug 11, 2018•51 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain the meaning of the motto “Do good work and don't be trash.” In the second segment, Jenn and Daren discuss how they model the motto in their daily lives from how Daren checks his privilege to how Jenn uses her platform to elevate the work of other Black women. In the third segment, they talk through how not being trash requires being critical when necessary and why you should always put more emphasis on your work than accolades. Articles for reference:...
Aug 02, 2018•45 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about Janelle Monae coming out as queer and what the resurgence of queerness means for this generation. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren discuss queerness as a set of gender politics and a set of sexual politics. In the third segment, Daren reflects on being a heterosexual Black man coupled with a queer Black woman and Jenn reflects on identifying as bisexual, then pansexual, and now queer. Articles for reference: * Why, As A Queer Black Woman, It’s...
May 12, 2018•45 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about recent situations when the police have been called without good cause and why they are so problematic. In the second segment, they discuss the disparate responses police officers provide to white people vs. Black people and how unnecessarily bringing the police into situations can often end with Black people dead. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren discuss their own personal experiences with the police and why they have so little faith in the pol...
Apr 21, 2018•1 hr 11 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren read a listener submitted question (the topic of this episode) and clarify that this question speaks to a larger question of the power of the status quo. In the second segment, they discuss the theoretical implications of being liked and supported by white people. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren discuss not doing things for the white gaze, codeswitching, and creating spaces for Black folx first. Articles for reference: * Why White Guilt Is The Least Impo...
Mar 18, 2018•58 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren offer up both the official and #ThatBlackCouple versions of descriptions for some of the most buzzed about films nominated for Oscars this year. In the second segment, they give their in-depth critiques of the most buzzed about films this awards season: ‘The Shape of Water’, ‘Three BIllboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri’, and “Lady Bird’. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how standout films ‘Get Out’, ‘Mudbound’, and ‘Step’ have been mistreated by ...
Mar 04, 2018•1 hr 24 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about their experience viewing Black Panther and explain why they saw the film first as a couple and second with their children. In the second segment, they discuss the merits and problems with Black Panther in conversation with responses written by Chris Lebron and Lawrence Ware. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how Black Panther could and should change the movie-making business and why representation matters. Articles for reference: * We...
Feb 24, 2018•1 hr
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about what they want to leave in 2017, especially white saviors and performative allyship. In the second segment, they discuss things they liked about 2017 and how 2017 was the year of Black folx on their "glow up". In the third segment, Jenn and Daren discuss things they are looking forward to in the Blacker more feminist future of 2018 including Black Panther and increased Blackness in community and culture. In the fourth and final segment of the first...
Dec 30, 2017•47 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about the ways that mainstream media operates to exacerbate and benefit from the public performance of Black pain. In the second segment, they discuss what Black Liberation really looks like given this type of system. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren discuss their experiences with internalized anti-Blackness, whether it be from them or others, and how to manage. Articles for reference: * Omarosa, Bethenny, and White Women Being ‘Mediocre’ http://wate...
Dec 16, 2017•55 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about emerging news around the medical issues that are associated with football, especially as it relates to CTE. In the second segment, they discuss all of the problematic aspects of professional football that are damaging to Black folx and question how anyone can be for Black lives while also supporting an anti-Black system like the NFL. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren relate their personal experiences with football and athletics and how Black fol...
Nov 08, 2017•1 hr 1 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss how subtle forms of racism show up in our everyday lives. In the second segment, they dig deeper into what implicit racism is, how we conceive of “microaggressions”, and what racism looks like for Black millennials in the United States. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren talk about how we address these issues and what are some ways to combat these issues as we do the adulting thing. Articles for reference: * “I am not a racist but . . .”: mapping Wh...
Oct 30, 2017•58 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the allegations against Harvey Weinstein and the misuse of power in Hollywood. In the second segment, they dive into gaslighting, defining the term and illustrating how pervasive it is in our culture. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren talk about sexual harassment in intimate environments and why it is so important for men to be vocal about these issues. Articles for reference: * Harvey Weinstein Paid Off Sexual Harassment Accusers for Decades https...
Oct 29, 2017•1 hr 5 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss how mental health has played a role in their lives. They talk through anxiety attacks, childhood trauma, medication, and long term therapy. In the second segment, they lay out a litany of stats to discuss the seriousness of mental illness within the Black community. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren go over ways to seek help and be helpful to those in our lives who may be working through mental illness issues. Articles for reference: * Clubhouse In...
Oct 08, 2017•1 hr 11 min
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the "Black Love Documentary" that recently aired on OWN. They talk about the couples they loved, the ones they didn't, and the depictions of Black love that they hope are represented in the next season. In the second segment, they talk through why #RelationshipGoals is damaging and problematic both for those who are described with the term as well as those who use it to describe others. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren share personal stories of ho...
Sep 30, 2017•1 hr 5 min
