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Texas Appellate Law Podcast

Todd Smith & Jody Sanderstexapplawpod.com
Welcome to the Texas Appellate Law Podcast—your backstage pass to the Texas and federal appellate systems. Join your hosts, Texas appellate lawyers Todd Smith and Jody Sanders, as they explore the nuances of appellate advocacy with judges, court staff, leading trial and appellate practitioners, academics, and legal innovators. Whether you're immersed in an appeal or building your trial strategy, each episode delivers practical insights to help you enhance your advocacy skills, strengthen your arguments, and stay current with evolving legal trends. Connect with us at texapplawpod.com or on LinkedIn and X (@texapplawpod). Brought to you by Texas Appellate Counsel PLLC, a solo practice dedicated to appellate advocacy, trial support, and consulting for trial lawyers. For more information visit texappcounsel.com. Sponsored by Court Surety Bond Agency and Counsel Press. Produced and powered by LawPods, podcast marketing that converts prospects and drives revenue. The views expressed by the participants on this podcast are their own and not those of their law firms, courts, or employers. Nothing you hear on this show establishes an attorney-client relationship or is legal advice.
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Episodes

Litigating Issues Under State Constitutions | Judge Jeffrey Sutton

When representing clients, attorneys often think of constitutional rights only in terms of the federal constitution. But this narrow focus leaves out the 50 state constitutions, which can offer different and more protective rights than their federal counterpart. From his experience as Ohio Solicitor General through his time on the 6th Circuit, Judge Jeffrey Sutton has seen the impact that state constitutions can have on the rule of law. In his 2018 book, 51 Imperfect Solutions: States and the Ma...

Dec 10, 202050 minEp. 41

Well-Being Strategies for the Pandemic and the Holidays | Chris Ritter

Mental health is an important topic that often goes unaddressed in the legal profession. Yet, one study revealed that nearly half the lawyers surveyed had struggled at some point with depression. Now more than ever, in this time of the pandemic, we need to bring awareness to mental-health issues and promote lawyer well-being. In this episode, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders are joined by the Director of the Texas Lawyers' Assistance Program , Chris Ritter . Chris shares his own struggle with alcohol...

Dec 03, 202049 minEp. 40

Lessons Learned from Online Court Proceedings | Beth Thornburg

Technology has changed the practice of law in recent years, but the COVID-19 pandemic completely upended it. Remote court proceedings became the norm overnight. For many attorneys, this change required rethinking the way we practice. Few people have spent as much time examining and critiquing these new proceedings as SMU Law Professor Elizabeth Thornburg and her research team. She joins Jody Sanders and Todd Smith in this week’s episode to talk about their study, the findings, and ways attorneys...

Nov 26, 20201 hr 3 minEp. 39

From Appellate Lawyer to Trial Judge | Judge Dustin Howell

Judge Dustin Howell of Travis County’s 200th District Court took a different path to the trial bench than most. Starting as a Spanish major, he entered the corporate world before going to law school. After law school, he took an appellate path, with a Texas Supreme Court clerkship, private practice, and time at the Texas Solicitor General’s office before ascending to the trial bench. Judge Howell joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders in this week’s episode to talk about how his appellate experience ...

Nov 19, 202052 minEp. 38

Teaching and Learning Legal Research and Writing | Beth Wilensky

Attorneys—in particular appellate attorneys—spend much of their time thinking about and engaging in legal writing. And, as jury trials and hearings become less frequent, legal writing takes on an increasingly outsized role in deciding legal disputes. So often, though, those attorneys had to learn many of their legal writing skills on the job. But, legal writing education has changed and continues to adapt to teach law students new and better methods for providing the best possible work product. ...

Nov 12, 202055 minEp. 37

Planting Seeds in Amicus Practice | Carl Cecere

In most appellate cases, the record and the arguments drive the decisions. But at the US Supreme Court and state supreme courts, amicus support often highlights other important considerations and potential impacts beyond the parties to the dispute. In this episode, Carl Cecere , owner of Cecere PC, joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to talk about his development of an amicus and US Supreme Court practice in a solo setting after working in both large and boutique firms. Listen to this episode to h...

Nov 05, 202044 minEp. 36

How to Get a Supersedeas Bond | Daniel Huckabay

Supersedeas bonds are a familiar concept among lawyers who try cases, but the nuts and bolts of obtaining a bond are often a mystery. In this episode, Court Surety Bond Agency ’s Daniel Huckabay joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to explain how judgment debtors may apply for a bond, the basic premium structure, and the types of collateral sureties consider in the underwriting process. Dan also discuss the importance of acting quickly when a client faces an adverse judgment and the advantages of p...

Oct 29, 202052 minEp. 35

From Appellate Lawyer to Appellate Justice: The Road to the Fifth Court of Appeals| Justice John Browning

Before his recent appointment to the Fifth Court of Appeals in Dallas, Justice John Browning had a long career as an appellate practitioner and had earned a reputation as a prolific author and speaker on topics relating to social media, technology, and Texas legal history. In this episode, Justice Browning joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to discuss his practice background, his transition from advocate to appellate justice, and his recent research and publications on African-American Texas lega...

Oct 22, 202043 minEp. 34

Helping Courts Interpret Statutes | Daniel Olds

Courts often grapple with what the Legislature intended when it used particular words in a statute. Because the Legislature only speaks through its enactments, answering that question requires resort to a number of tools and methods. Attorneys can give their clients the best advice and a distinct advantage in litigation by understanding and mastering statutory interpretation tools. Daniel Olds, an appellate and litigation attorney at Bickerstaff Heath Delgado Acosta, LLP, has learned the ins and...

Oct 15, 202048 minEp. 33

A Peek Into Life on the Fifth Circuit Bench | Judge Gregg Costa

Appeals before the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit can be challenging for lawyers who most often handle matters before state appellate courts. On today's podcast, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders are joined by their first Fifth Circuit guest, Judge Gregg Costa . Judge Costa shares his career journey—from teaching fourth grade in rural Mississippi to trying the Allen Stanford case to becoming a federal district and appellate judge—providing an insider's view of Fifth Circuit life ...

Oct 08, 202055 minEp. 32

Clerking at the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals and the Texas Supreme Court | Marshall Bowen

Law school is tough—just a few short years to decide the trajectory of your legal career. For Marshall Bowen, testing the legal waters through state court clerkships was the way to go. In this episode, Marshall joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to discuss his experiences clerking at Texas’s two highest state courts—the Texas Supreme Court and the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. Marshall provides an insider’s perspective on the clerkship process at both courts and offers insights from a combined...

Oct 01, 202045 minEp. 31

Trailblazing in the Rio Grande Valley | Justice Gina Benavides

The Thirteenth Court of Appeals covers a vast area stretching from near Houston to the US/Mexico border. It even has chambers and hears cases in two locations—Corpus Christi and Edinburg. Thirteenth Court Justice Gina Benavides knows the territory well because she worked throughout it as a successful trial attorney for nearly 20 years before taking the appellate bench. Justice Benavides joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to discuss her career as a litigator, her transition to the court of appeals...

Sep 24, 202056 minEp. 30

Appeals, Jury Trials, and the Texas Constitution | Bill Chriss

Bill Chriss is truly a Renaissance man. A lifelong learner with degrees that include a Ph.D, Bill’s interests range across history, politics, law, and ethics. Bill’s recent research interest focuses on the Texas Constitution, both its origin and evolution. Bill sits down with Todd Smith and Jody Sanders and traces his career journey—from working as a trial lawyer handling his own appeals to becoming an appellate lawyer, with a stop along the way at the Texas Center for Legal Ethics. The conversa...

Sep 17, 202053 minEp. 29

Ruminations on a Career in Appellate Judging | Justice Paul Green

Paul Green served as an appellate justice for more than 25 years, both at the San Antonio Court of Appeals and the Texas Supreme Court. On the eve of his retirement, Justice Paul Green joined Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to reflect on his past as a litigator in his family’s law practice, his time on the bench, and his future plans after leaving the Supreme Court. Justice Green offers a candid assessment of his career, the judiciary, and the future of judges in Texas. Learn about Justice Green’s m...

Sep 10, 202041 minEp. 28

The TCPA’s Impact on Civil Appellate Practice | Amanda Taylor

In 2011, Texas adopted the Texas Citizens Participation Act, one of the broadest anti-SLAPP statutes in the nation. Since then, TCPA motions to dismiss and the resulting interlocutory appeals have proliferated, and both trial and appellate courts have struggled to reconcile the statute’s far-reaching language with just and fair results. Joining Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to talk about the TCPA is Amanda Taylor , a civil appellate specialist at Butler Snow and an expert on the subject. Amanda di...

Sep 03, 202050 minEp. 27

Rethinking Your Role in the Legal Industry | Mike Whelan

Practicing law means staying on top of the latest trends and developments to keep yourself educated and provide the best possible service to your clients. Mike Whelan Jr., the CEO of Lawyer Forward , joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to talk about how lawyers can thrive in a changing legal environment and institute changes in their practices that benefit the lawyers, their clients, and the legal industry as a whole. Mike offers tips to rethink the structures and roles of modern legal practices f...

Aug 27, 202046 minEp. 26

Working with Trial Counsel: The Dynamic Between Trial Lawyers and Appellate Lawyers

So often, trial lawyers are expected to do it all when trying a case—prepping and examining witnesses, arguing motions, making objections, and preserving the record. This translates to early mornings, late nights, and opportunities for things to get overlooked. Having another set of eyes (and a different skill set) can not only lighten trial counsel’s load, but ensure a better outcome for the client. This is where appellate counsel can really add value. In their 25th episode, Todd Smith and Jody...

Aug 20, 20201 hr 3 minEp. 25

Understanding the Texas Standards for Appellate Conduct | Kevin Dubose

Texas has adopted standards for appellate conduct that go beyond the disciplinary rules governing all licensed attorneys. Making his second appearance on the show is the resident expert on this topic, Kevin Dubose of Alexander Dubose & Jefferson LLP . With his insider knowledge and insights, Kevin explains the impetus behind the aptly-named Standards for Appellate Conduct, how they differ from the ordinary disciplinary rules, and how they reflect and reinforce the Texas appellate bar’s cultu...

Aug 11, 202034 minEp. 24

Briefing Beyond Words | Mark Trachtenberg

Attorneys are skilled at painting pictures with words. But that can only get them so far. As technology has improved, so too has the opportunity to enrich briefing with visual aids—pictures, charts, videos, and animation. As courts move to electronic filings and briefs, attorneys who fail to adapt will get left behind. In this episode, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders interview Mark Trachtenberg from Haynes and Boone about his article, “ Briefing Beyond Words ,” and his tips and strategies for using ...

Aug 04, 202041 minEp. 23

Appellate Review in Family Law Cases | Michelle O’Neil

Family law appeals can be tricky because the legal standards differ from ordinary civil cases. Taking us into the appellate component of family law, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders interview Michelle O’Neil of O’Neil Wysocki Family Law to answer some questions about what makes family law appeals special. Michelle dives deep into some of her cases, helping us further understand temporary and final orders, abuse of discretion, and more. Michelle also talks about how COVID-19 has affected family law an...

Jul 28, 202046 minEp. 22

Proper Advocacy in the Texas Supreme Court | Justice Brett Busby

With a background as a U.S. Supreme Court law clerk, appellate practitioner, and Justice on Texas’s Fourteenth Court of Appeals, serving on the Texas Supreme Court seems like a natural fit for Justice Brett Busby . Today, he joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to share his experiences transitioning from the Court of Appeals to the Texas Supreme Court, including insights learned from the bench and from his background and experience as an appellate advocate. Justice Busby provides timely tips for an...

Jul 21, 202046 minEp. 21

Unlikely Heroes: The Fifth Circuit Four | Dr. Jack Bass

The Black Lives Matter Movement has opened a number of necessary conversations about racial injustice. Tapping into this timely subject, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders visit with Dr. Jack Bass , the author of nonfiction books focusing on southern politics, race relations, and law. Here, Dr. Bass takes us into his book Unlikely Heroes , which is a vivid account of the implementation of Brown v. Board of Education in the South by Fifth Circuit Judges committed to the rule of law. Dr. Bass taps into h...

Jul 14, 202033 minEp. 20

How to Make Your Written Advocacy Effective | Justice Elizabeth Kerr

The importance of professional writing skills in law practice cannot be overstated. Trends in the legal world have increased the importance of written advocacy in an unprecedented way, especially with things going virtual. Todd Smith and Jody Sanders expound on this topic with their guest, Justice Elizabeth Kerr , from the Second Court of Appeals in Fort Worth, Texas. As a former civil litigator, Justice Kerr gained a fresh new perspective on written advocacy when she took the appellate bench. S...

Jul 07, 202039 minEp. 19

Setting the Appellate Bar in Texas | Kevin Dubose

A legal career can span many decades and different types of practices. In this episode, a long-time appellate attorney, Kevin Dubose of Alexander Dubose & Jefferson , joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to discuss not only his experiences throughout his appellate law career, but also his life as a trial lawyer before switching to appellate practice. Kevin also shares the history of the formation and growth of the Appellate Section of the State Bar of Texas, including the watershed year that ga...

Jun 30, 202041 minEp. 18

Using Checklists When Preserving Error for Appeal | Steve Hayes

Error preservation often determines what issues an appellate court can hear. Too often, clients, trial counsel, and even appellate counsel learn that error didn’t get preserved when it’s already too late to fix. To explore more about error preservation, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders talk with Steve Hayes , the error-preservation guru. Chances are, if you’ve attended a CLE speech on the topic, Steve gave it. In this episode, he shares his wisdom and insights and discusses error-preservation trends ...

Jun 23, 202039 minEp. 17

Why Appeals Matter Even When the Odds Are Low

Statistically speaking, any appellant faces an uphill battle with less than a 50% chance of success. But, with those odds, why should a client ever appeal? Todd Smith and Jody Sanders answer this question, highlighting why appeals matter even when the odds might not point to success. The discussion focuses on how standards of review impact the appellate issues and chances of success, and other considerations to raise when counseling clients about the reasons to appeal (or not) a particular case....

Jun 16, 202036 minEp. 16

Discretionary Decisions in the Courts of Appeals| Michael Ritter

Discretion isn’t just for trial courts. The intermediate courts of appeals are sometimes called upon to make decisions involving judicial discretion too. On today’s show, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders are joined by Michael Ritter , a staff attorney at the Fourth Court of Appeals in San Antonio, to talk about how the appellate courts approach those discretionary decisions. Michael also touches on the proper use of en banc review, as well as the technology the Fourth Court has applied to respond nim...

Jun 09, 202052 minEp. 15

The Second-Wave Virus: Ransomware Attack on the Courts

It seems everything can be done over the internet nowadays. With the global pandemic and quarantine protocols, more and more people have relied on the world wide web when working from home. But a major threat has hindered those trying to practice appellate law recently — ransomware. On today’s show, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders talk about the recent ransomware attack on the Texas appellate court websites and how it’s affecting their practices. Don’t let the dangers of malware cripple you or your ...

May 29, 202034 minEp. 14

Making Appealing Arguments in Federal District Courts | Judge Jeff Brown

Few judges have sat on a trial-court bench, a court of appeals, and the Texas Supreme Court. Our guest for this episode, Judge Jeff Brown , has done all three and more. Today, he joins Todd Smith and Jody Sanders to talk about his time as a state trial and appellate judge and his recent transition to the federal district bench. Sharing his career background, Judge Brown touches on how a judicial clerkship helps new lawyers understand how the court operates and makes decisions. Judge Brown also o...

May 26, 202030 minEp. 13

Providing Access to Courts Through Remote Technology in These Uncertain Times | David Slayton

Behind a well-functioning court system is an Office of Court Administration that ensures technology and processes are rightly placed. In this episode, Todd Smith and Jody Sanders interview the Administrative Director of the Texas Office of Court Administration, David Slayton, about how OCA supports Texas courts and helps streamline appellate practice. He shares with us the technology OCA uses to facilitate the courts’ work and provide a statewide platform for searching and monitoring cases. Addr...

May 19, 202037 minEp. 12
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