Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Jack Kruse

Tetragrammerton. What are the major pollutants that get dumped into water and who dumps it? Well, that depends where you are. I spend time with farmers in the Midwest looking at drinking water from their wells anymore because agricultural chemicals have contaminated the groundwater. They're part of the dispossessed in this country. This entire generation that's being mass poisoned and then mass-propagandized.

So that's sort of the drinking water, I would say the biggest contaminant is agricultural runoffs in most part of the country. But it depends where you are. It's really community like New York City's drinking water comes from three upstate reservoir systems and two of them are fantastic. And then one of them, the smallest one, the crowding system has 102 sewage treatment plants that's charging into it. And on a dry year, 2% of the water that comes out of your tap has been through a sewer plant.

There's no filtration. And that water now contains all kinds of pharmaceuticals. So they're finding these sub therapeutic levels of hormones, of earth control pills, of all kinds of hormones and all kinds of antidepressants. Psychoactive drugs, prosack, etc. in public water supplies all over the country. And the water supply almost no water supply has the kind of carbon filtration system that you would need to filter that out.

And in terms of non-drinking water, probably the most serious pollutants are actually nutrients and nitrogen phosphates, potassium, which cause algae bloomed, which then rob the water of its oxygen. And they biologically impoverish these aquatic ecosystems because during certain times the year, there'll be zero dissolved oxygen. And the water supply has gone. And then if we're looking at pollutants of concern, I probably one of the biggest concerns that we should have is mercury.

It's coming from coal burning power plants, it also comes from cement kilns, from some mining activities that as now, every fresh water fish in the United States now has dangerous levels of mercury in its flesh. So we're living like in a science fiction nightmare today where my children and the children of every other American, and now no longer engage in the seven-old primal activity of American youth, which is to go fishing. And their local fishing hall and then come home and safely to fish.

And that, to me as a kid, I would have been unimaginable that somebody would be allowed to pollute every fish in our country, but it's become normalized now. Is this a global problem or is this the biggest problem? Yeah, no, it's global. I mean, the worst offender is China. That's just so you know the local, I should say the global fish market has changed in your lifetime of mine.

Now there's aquaculture where they actually have to now farm the fish because we've polluted the water so badly that we have to wall it off. I mean, that's our legacy. Yeah, and the farm fed fish, the stuff they're feeding them is heavily contaminated with, you know. Yeah, you clean the water up and then you ruin it with bad food. I would rather eat a wild caught salmon than a farm fed salmon. In terms of their toxic loads, it's better to eat a wild fish.

But still the wild fish, you know, have like really dangerous levels of mercury in them and other contaminants as well. It's, you know, it's depressing the world that we're giving to our kids. I just read something about a program where millions of genetically modified mosquitoes are being released in different places of the world. That's insane. I mean, I don't even know how to talk about it. I would say it's insane. It's, but it goes exactly to what he just said about...

How could that go wrong? Exactly. No, how can it go right? I mean, and it's Bill Gates, you know, funding all those Zara experiments. And, you know, they, I don't know if it's a coincidence, but, you know, they did it in South Florida and for the first time in decades, they had malaria outbreaks and so on. I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that. I don't know if they're connected or they're with the... We don't know, we can't know, but it's interesting correlation.

Yeah. Anytime you mess with a decentralized network, you create a centralized problem. How is something like releasing millions of mosquitoes legal to do? It should be illegal. I mean, it should be, but all you can get a permit. If you get it, if you do the environmental impacts, they mean you do, you know, all of the studies that you're supposed to do, then there's a bureaucrat who can say, yeah, I do this, but it just doesn't make any sense.

Nobody with any kind of knowledge of ecology would let that happen. And, you know, I mean, I understand what the... Some of the experiments are benign, are more kind of benign and maybe conceptually, okay, that might be okay, which, for example, you release male mosquitoes that are sterile and don't know they're sterile. And the male mosquitoes don't bite people. It's only the females. They need a blood meal in order to create their eggs.

Oh, if you release tens of millions of male mosquitoes, they are going to breed with the females and the eggs will be infertile. So that was way to dampen production. That is the theory. Of course, that can go wrong in a million ways. The really bad things are the ones that are just bad conceptually, which is you create a vaccine. And you give it to the mosquito and the mosquitoes then go out and vaccinate the population.

So if you get bit by mosquito, you're getting an antigen, a protein antigen from a virus. How do you control the dosage? Well, I don't know. What happens if you get 100 mosquito bites? I mean, I think they're not really interested in controlling their dosage. They're interested in controlling vaccine hesitancy. And that's the complete solution to that because you're getting bit by mosquito. And you can't say no. There was another plan to deal with global warming by blocking out the sun.

Have you heard that one? I'm against all gene, geoengineering projects, including all the carbon capture projects. They're all doing dog. I can't say they're all flim flams because I don't know them all. But all the ones that I see and the ones that we're spending tens of billions with dollars on are waste, low flim flams. And we should spend that money, would be much better spent, helping farmers transition to regenerative agriculture.

Most of the problems we've talked about come back to a profit motive. Someone has a profit incentive. That's what makes them do bad things. And I've heard people talk about it as that's just the nature of capitalism. What do you see your feeling about that? Yeah, the problem is not capitalism. The problem is, let me put it this way. It's not free market capitalism. It's corporate crony capitalism.

And actually I've always said that the best thing for the environment would be true free market capitalism. Because a true free market would promote efficiency. And efficiency means is the elimination of waste and pollution as waste. In a true free market, we would be forced to properly value our natural resources. And it is the undervaluation of those resource that causes us to use them wastefully.

And in a true free market, you can't make yourself rich without making your neighbors rich and without enriching your community. But what polluters do is they make themselves rich by making everybody else poor. How would that system work? How could you make that system work? It would work because you force every actor in the marketplace to internalize all their costs.

When General Electric Company wants to produce a capacitor or a transformer, it's cheaper for ads on its PCBs and the ads in river. They access PCBs, right? It's cheaper than properly collecting them and reusing them. And they see a legal for them to do it, but they're able to use the political cloud to escape the licensing strictures and therefore to escape the discipline of the free market. In a true free market, you bring all you internalize all your costs.

So every cost that it takes to get your product to market, you have to pay. And but what polluters do is they figure out ways to externalize their costs. And that includes the cost includes cleaning up after yourself, which was a lesson we were all supposed to have learned in kindergarten. Why don't all pollution is a subsidy where polluters figure out a way to externalize their costs and get the public to shoulder the burden of bringing their product to market.

And by doing that, they can lower their price artificially and send the wrong signals to the market. It distorts the whole marketplace. And none of us gets the advantages of the efficiency and the prosperity and the democracy that free market capitalism, otherwise, from this our country. You show me a polluter. I'll show you a subsidy. I'll show you a fat cat using political cloud to escape the discipline of the free market and force the public to pay his production costs.

That's what all pollution is. We have laws that make it illegal to do that, but the agencies are there at this point to abet the polluter in escaping those laws. So the problem is corruption. Yeah, the problem is corruption rather than capitalism. I love capitalism. I think it liberates the human spirit. And it's the corruption of capitalism that causes all the problems. What changes have you made personally in your life that had the biggest impact on you?

To me, well, getting this over had the biggest impact on me. How long ago was that? In 1983, so 40 years. Well, amazing. That caused me to do a complete, let's say, spiritual realignment. And recovery is part of my day to day life. I go to a meeting every day. And I've integrated that, you know, the whole meditation and trying to maintain that spiritual connection, which is, I would say, the primary governing feature of my life. How do you stay in conscious contact with God?

How do you work with, you know, one foot in the spiritual world and one in the, you know, in the visible world? And that's our challenge. You know, the challenge. How do you stay in that posture of subduing self-will and surrendering self-will? I think, you know, somebody said to me yesterday that we're not humans having a spiritual experience, we're spirits having a human experience.

And that to me is a good way of looking at it because it means everything is kind of a test, you know, of your capacity to maintain that posture of surrender and stay, you know, in that spiritual realm, you know, that living that life integrity and all the things that that requires. What is something that you believed when you were younger that you don't believe anymore?

You know, there's institutions that I've lost faith in that I was very idealistic about and I was saying I even about when I was younger. And then I think I'm a lot less likely now to break, particularly conflicts that you see around the world and to binary formulations. Yes. Good guy, bad guy. Yeah. And to always understand that, you know, mostly what human beings are good people on that, they have a different set of assumptions, but they're all kind of, we want the same thing.

I mean, even Republicans in Tannercraz these days, you know, I would say that I grew up with the kind of binary idea and that, you know, those categories are now breaking down so radically right now that, you know, this is very interesting. How is the experience of running for office different than you imagined it would be? It's much funer. Really? Yeah. It's my thing. I mean, the biggest thing for me is that my wife is enjoying it and you know, she was really frightened of it.

And there's just really good energy on that trail. We're getting huge crowds. We have 250,000 volunteers, which is more than anybody else. And I just, I like it. I enjoy doing it. And I've been on a lot of campaigns of my life and they were always difficult and this is much easier. Have you been surprised by some of the people who are supporting you and by some of the people who are not supporting you? I'm not going to say I'm surprised because I've been living with this since 2005.

I've been losing friendships of losing. You know, I lost a lot of business relationships. I lost political relationships that I developed over my whole lifetime because of my position on these public health issues. I'm so I'm not surprised by it. Some people have surprised me. I mean, there's three particular friends of mine who disappointed me, let's say. I mean, I tend to just accept everything as how it's supposed to be. So I don't. You do? I don't complain about anything.

But they were relationships that were very important to me and that with people literally walked away from the said, I'm walking away from the relationship. But otherwise, you know, I have four of my family members who are, you know, who've spoken out publicly against me. And that I suppose was surprising. And I also understand where they're coming from. And, you know, I understand everybody is, you know, fooled with fear and confusion about this issue.

So I let that go and just say, you know, I hope that's where everybody. And I love people who don't agree with me. Tell me about natural resources that get privatized. How does that happen? You know, one of the essential doctrines in democracy was, you know, for like 28 hundred years, the Code of Justinian was one of the first efforts that constitutional governance. And the Code of Justinian was a constitution in ancient Rome that stated something that everybody in Adley understood.

This concept of those things that cannot be easily reduced to private property ownership but by their nature are the assets of community. Can never be privatized. So that they included air, water, wildlife, fisheries, public lands, the wandering animals. And there were some forest, there were something equivalent to national forest nature in Rome. Those were, you know, for the public. And also the aquifers, which they also recognized in nature.

And what the Code of Justinian said, everybody owns those assets. Everybody gets to use them. Nobody gets to use them in a way that will diminish or injure their use and impact by others. So you can take your share, but you can't take all of it, right? And in ancient Rome, if, no matter whether you're rich or poor or humble or noble, white or black, which there was Africans who were citizens of Rome and Europeans.

If you had that gift of citizenship, then you had an absolute right to cross a beach, throw in a net, take out your share that there's the ember himself couldn't stop you. And that was a central right. But what happens whenever a democracy begins to decline, you see elite entities, add powerful entities that come in and begin privatizing what is called the commons or the public trust assets, which are these assets.

So when Rome collapsed in 375 AD, I think the burning of the Library of Alexandria, then we had 800 years of sort of darkness, you had feudal kings and local lords and war, you know, and warrior knights who were, who began privatizing the public trust. So for example, in England, King John said that the, the deer, the game animals and the rabbits, these, that once belonged to all the people. And now we're the possession of the barons and the lords who own that property.

And that's what got them in trouble with Robin Hood. I, because the deer and the rabbits were the social safety net at that time. They didn't have social security or unemployment, but if you're cropped and come in, you could go feed your family by killing a deer. Now that became illegal. He also privatized transport on the, the Thames and the other rumors in England. He erected navigational tolls and gave the rights to collect tolls to powerful allies. And he also gave the fisheries.

So the fish and the Thames and the other, you now had to pay somebody a license to harvest those. And these were all social safety nets that belonged to the public. And those reforms caused the public to rise up and they confronted King John at the Battle of Running Mead and they forced him to sign the Magna Carta, which is called the full name of it is the Magna Carta and the Charter of the Forest. And it's the Bethlehem of all of our Bill of Rights in this country.

But it also provides for free and total public access to rivers, waters and the public trust assets. And those rights descended to the people of this country when we had the revolution our country. And in fact, up until 1847 it was the law and every jurisdiction in the United States that if you owned a factory and smoked from your factory got into my house as little as one day you're an absolute right to close down your factory.

Because you were just passing on my property right and there on the public property. And those laws in order to make way for the industrial revolution, those laws were gradually were quickly eroded at that point by government officials, by judges and by others and it became much easier to trample on that right of that public trust doctrine was eroded and corroded.

But after Earth and then we got to a point where the pendulum swung so far the other way by 1969 which was a key year, the Kyle Hogue River burned with flames that were so I explained how a river burns. It's like that's not going to change things if it shouldn't be in it my friend. It was a clean air act in 1600 in England that was a capital offense they made it a crime to burn coal and all that stuff people are executed for it. And it's always been a crime to pollute water.

But those laws were eroded and then the Kyle Hogue River burns with flames or eight stories high they can't put it out. There's a coating of chemicals hydrocarbons all over the water. That same year like Erie was declared dead zero dissolved oxygen all the fish life disappeared. This is 69. This is 69. The Santa Barbara wheels bill happens that year it closed all the beaches and caused billions of dollars the economy of Southern California.

And you know the eastern Adam Paragrand folk in the most spectacular predatory bird in America when extinct was declared extinct that year. And all of these insults drove 20 million Americans out onto the street in 1970 that's the biggest largest public demonstration American history. And it scared the you know the political classes to death both Republican and Democrat.

And over the next 10 years they passed 28 11 years 28 environmental laws the clean air at clean water act in dangerous v. Sack, Circular, Rick Ross, Safe Drinking Water Act, the mining act all of these acts that were designed to reestablish those old public trust rights that had been eroded since the beginning of the industrial revolution. And so none of them were actually new laws. They were actually just codification of laws that had been you know extents since Roman times.

Wow. And it was a restatement and each one of those laws. We knew when we wrote them that the industries would be able to come in and capture the agencies and we created EPA then et cetera you know Nixon was present. We knew that the industry was going to come capture the agencies and disable the enforcement mechanism so each one of those laws contains a citizen's supervision that says if the government fails to enforce this law any citizen and step into the shoes of the United States attorney

and ask you polluters and for fines now is $33,000 a day and get all your attorneys fees back and that was my bread and butter for the first 30 years of my you know I was suing people under the I brought over 500 lawsuits under those you know those laws those statutes has it changed since then?

Well I've changed because now I'm doing more plaintiffs laws you can never really change behavior with those statutes because the fines were so little and you know these companies are making billions of dollars by cheating by polluting and you know the courts would

only give us you know a million dollars would be a huge huge judgment and but so for me you know I moved into doing plaintiffs work in the you know early 2000 I started suing these companies on behalf of people who were injured and getting you know big settlement

I mean I want my first case that I actually argued myself was I against a dop on smelter and smelter was Virginia and poison 10,000 families and I got one of the biggest judgments from a jury I think I got $643 million you know the judges reduced those so you don't

end up getting all that money but you know it was a huge it was a huge against a big company to bond it was a very very big judgment at that time and I was like oh wow this is like I'm in a different world now and this actually can change corporate behavior because you

win you know I if I want to suit under the clean water act the I don't even know if the CEO of DuPont would know that I brought that suit because it's a you know it's just a drop in the bucket isn't drop in the bucket it's not even a rounding error for you know

and but you get 643 million or 2.2 billion dollar judgment and that and the lawyer on that case has the CEO on speed dial and you know the entire board is sitting in a boardroom somewhere waiting for that to come back and they hear that judgment and they you know somebody says

we got to change so it to me it was a much more potent weapon you know and I started I'm doing a lot more of those plaintiffs and and you know the the the groups that are doing them the plaintiff's trial lawyers are a group that I was very compatible with because they're

all kind of there you know their alpha personalities who are you know committed to poor and powerless people their lives are about that and they're super smart and you know and and they're like you know they're there are me and they know how to win war as these big shots they're not just fighting for crumbs it's existential as some of these companies so much of today's life

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you read my you read the Fauci book the Fauci book was spectacular my life has been taken apart by the pre Fauci story why because I happened to do training in a place where nefarious things were done that set the conditions of existence for what you wrote in the Fauci book now you know about

operation paper clip you know about mk ultra but you know that was done on the floors of two lane neurosurgery and neurology that's across the street from where I did my residency at lsu their separate medical schools but lsu and two lane neurosurgery when I went through we were

kind of combined program and I had heard all these stories about you know some crazy stuff that went on in the neurosurgery department you know in the 50s and 60s so of course I asked questions I'm a guy from the yorks I'm interested in finding this stuff out and long story short I started

to begin to hear the stories about a lab that was on magazine street that was tied to the two lane neurosurgery two lane neurology work that was being done early in my residency this is this is to show you how old I am we used to do bows or tip aneurysm surgery and back then we didn't have

endovascular stuff so we had to split people's chest open to stop their heart to clip the aneurysm in their brain so the gentleman who actually was the cardiovascular surgery to do that was John Oshner that's the son of Alton Oshner and J.O. was a southern he was a pretty quirky guy but he

was pretty chatty and one of the questions that I had after my first two years at charity hospital what started all this is Oliver Stone film JFK my intern year so I was in the emergency room when they filmed that movie so this is the reason why all this stuff percolated up so I go to Oshner

and one of the villains in that movie was fairy right who had worked in that lab right but had a lab in his own house well fairy is the most interesting one that ties to your Fauci book and that's the reason I asked you did your dad ever tell you anything about the death of

fairy because one of the things you know about your uncle's death that I always found amazing is that the only place that anybody ever came to trial was in the warlands because of the clay Shaw link because of Jim Garrison right but but Jim Garrison went after Shaw and not Oshner he knew

about Oshner and I don't know if you know that that's part of the reason why I really want to discuss this with you because when fairy was killed your dad actually called you know the fairy was just from the movie he was a pilot who had trained in the air national guard in Louisiana

with Lee Harvey Oswald when Oswald was very young I think he started training as a pilot when he was 16 years old on the North Shore Law of Louisiana and then fairy became a pilot for the Eastern Airlines or the yeah but he was a pilot for the CIA doing gun running to Cuba and when Jim Douglas's book The Hunts Vehicle Ball he was the pilot who was in Dallas on November 22nd when my uncle was killed and was allegedly transporting people you know some of the people

who were involved including some of the people who were involved in my uncle's. I know that. Yeah and so and he was also involved with Dr. Ashwell he had kind of a satellite lab at his own house and when he was killed or died. Well that that's the funny part your dad calls. Yeah to A.A. Yeah and I remember that my father called the coroner to try to figure out whether it was an accidental death or a natural death or whether it was suicide a lot of this stuff you know I'm I'm I'm

on reaching back for for years. He was an interesting guy because he was a very strange looking man because he when he is a alopecia or alopecia so he painted a black thick eyebrows on himself and he had a very weird bad bad to pay and he was part of this of the gay mafia in New Orleans which was

also part of that Cuban underground that was linked to the mafia. There were three mob families trafficcades he who was from Tallahassee Giancana who was from Chicago and Carlos Marcel who was the New Orleans Dallas boss and he was I think he was he was a Libyan or Algerian correct

and my father actually had him deported repeatedly once he had him deported barefoot to the to the jungle in Guatemala and he was in a jury trial that my father was you know trying to the day that my uncle was killed he was on trial all those bosses my father was prosecuting they had

all been involved with the casinos in Havana and so one Bill Harvey who was the head of the Miami station recruited they wanted to get somebody to kill Castro they went to the mafia they went through a a mobster called Johnny Razzelli who then became liaison to the three big families

and they then you know all became and involved in training with the Cubans first for the Bay of Pigs and then later on for you know these were the people who were involved in President Kennedy's death and just you know Ferry was one of the pilots that was involved in the Bay of Pigs he was

actually shot down so that's the reason why he was anti-Canity because he didn't get the air support the other big part of the story is how does a guy who's a defraught priest fired from Eastern Airlines wind up working with the best cancer researcher in the world in Mary Stewart

who was the person that put this together well Jim Garrison had the pieces the key piece was Clay Shaw was one of the Neocons that worked with the CIA who had a direct link and this is the really interesting part of this when Ferry was killed his dad calls Nick Chetta very called up and said

you just killed me correct he called up I think Garrison released his name he did and he called up Garrison and he he said you just killed me I'm a dead man and then the next day he was dead natural causes so wild yeah I mean the best book on this I don't know if you've read it but it's

that what called the unspeakable by Jim Douglas I think the two that I brought you today I think you're very good but Douglas is in a different realm I've read the both those books is all right yeah and Douglas is in a utterly different realm he he is an extra every word is documented

and what he's done you know the Warren Commission have very very little data available since then there's been probably a million pages of documents released and many of the people are involved in my uncle's that have made confessions probably 20 of them oh and that none of

that was available in the 64 during the Warren Commission and none of it was available in 79 during the House elect assassinations committee investigation which was much more thorough than the Warren Commission the House select assassinations committee concluded that it was conspiracy and that

Bob Blakey who was the chief counsel at commission and believed that it was probably that it was a more mob than CIA but later retracted has since retracted and House says that he is convinced that there was CIA involvement so all of the other 20 people admitted that they were part of it

yeah I mean people like E Howard Hunt who was one of the plows in the who admitted being in on the initial planning stages he didn't admit involvement in the end he said I was there with Bill Harvey and I wasn't I didn't he said he didn't want to get involved because Bill Harvey but he

said the plan with that plan had evolved into my uncle's assassination David Morales who is the chief headman for the CIA he did the operation Phoenix program after my uncle's death he killed 25,000 people I believe in Vietnam and he was later you know and then and then he later

died under mysterious circumstances he died if you don't find that's a recurrent theme it's an unbelievable fact that we're still living in this numb propagandized environment it's because it's effective also you know it was illegal the CIA to propagandize American people that was in

its charter it's an act called the Smithmont act and it illegal and then and then they admitted it you know when it came out the church or anything they admitted it and they you know a lot of articles that were very alarmed and critical of it and so the CIA at that point promised that

they would stop doing that they remained today admittedly the largest funder of journalism worldwide so they pumped $10 billion dollars in through USAID to fund newspapers on newspaper journalists television etc they own television stations they own newspapers in all of the developing world

in Europe and they control them they're the biggest funder journalism in the world under USAID but and in 2016 Obama changed the issued an executive order that appears to overrule the Smithmont act and allowed the CIA to once again propagandize American people so today you know you're seeing

all these and we've done you know articles that show the elevation of people who are clearly part of the national security state to run major you know magazines and newspapers including the daily beast salon slate rolling some guy who now you know rolling some was the counterculture magazine

and it's now run by a guy called Noah Schlackman the unwetter was was pushed out Noah Schlackman now runs it and he has deep you know credentials and background in a national security state and so then you see the reporting and plays like National Geographic, Scientific American

a lot of them you know pressed with it has kind of foreign orientation will you know is run but you'll see that they're that they were all you know COVID alarmists they were all very promising you know dismiss of any any kind of questioning and and they're all pro war pro Ukraine

you know but any war that they're they're pro so you can see these kind of propaganda threads that dominate those news organs and you know we've done a series of articles showing the you know the links between those magazines and the and the national security apparatus.

The propaganda is a huge problem yeah you know both in centralized medicine but also in what you've been doing you know as an environmental lawyer but now running for president so I'm going to ask you a question a lot of big corners want me to ask you it's pretty clear that you know

that war is expensive what do you think the connection between November 22nd 1963 is in 1971 and Nixon moving the gold standard my uncle was worried about the out currency and you know the out currency was invented to fund war that was its whole purpose and my uncle was worried about it and in just before he died he he tried to reattach our currency to our green backs to a base currency. He is gold certificate silver certificate.

But certificate is when I was a kid those were you know you could you could see them and it was kind of thrilled that you can actually redeem this this bill for gold or silver and they I think they only last a year or something after he died but then in 1971 X and D couples you know the

current our paper currency from the gold standard and that was sort of the beginning I think you know in many ways the beginning of the end and it was also they he did it to fund the Vietnam war correct that's why most of the big corners want to know from you since you're now running for

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We love that you came out for Bitcoin people want to know how you learned about Bitcoin was it endoggously because of what happened through your family I have teenage and 20 20 30 year old kids so they you know I heard about Bitcoin but I became interested in it during COVID because I

saw what happened in Canada during the truckers strike right where you had truckers from all over Canada it's very very diverse the truckers in Canada are very diverse there's a lot of black Asian it was not you know they they later deliberately tried to portray it as kind of a right wing

revolt but it wasn't the truckers were being ordered to comply with all kinds of mandates including vaccines and they protested and they started a parade of trucks from the from Alberta and BC all the way across the country and they ended up in Ottawa and the capital it was a very

peaceful demonstration they were they just wanted to meet with Trudeau and if you look at the videos of the demonstration they were it was like Woodstock they were you know they were doing garbage pickups they were doing cookouts and feeding the poor they it was really kind of this very

magnanimous idealistic movement and there were efforts to betray it as right wing and in fact there people in two occasions people went in with Confederate flags wearing Boccava in military boots so and the truckers chased them out and yet that was the picture of the Confederate

flags and ended up in the newspaper so so Trudeau this says declines to meet with them and says they're dangerous at their right wing and he then does something that I had warned about a few months before I had gone to Milan and I had read about what was happening with central bank

digital currencies in China where they had now programmable currencies which means that if you fall below a certain score on your social credit score you get punished so if you didn't have a mask on over your nose during a mandatory mass day you'd be seen on facial recognition systems which are

everywhere in China they deduct from your social credit scores or if you get too next to close your girlfriend during a social distancing day they penalize you and the way they penalize you is that your credit card won't work anymore except within made grocery stores within a certain

radius of your own what you get on airplanes will you get on some ways or I mean my gasoline for your car won't let you you know get on some ways or anything else and so this is now your thing it's a challenge but about a month before Canada I was in Milan and I was and they were doing

vaccine passports and they were imposing them and I said the second that you allow them to do that is the vaccine passport has all your medical records but it has other things I could have your financial records etc I said the second you do that every right that you have suddenly

becomes a privilege that is contingent upon your compliance with a government mandate and I said here's how they're going to enforce it they're going to give you a social credit score it sounds paranoid but I said that's what they're doing in China so don't let them do it here and then a month

later the in Canada Trudeau then has all these truckers they you know the none of them have been charged but they use facial recognition system and they use surveillance systems to get the license plates on their cars on their trucks they know they are and they freeze all their bank accounts

it's illegal is that I mean because not these guys in Canada they change the law yeah they change the law because of this happening Trudeau actually invoked something to allow this to go on and the craziest part is the rest of the people in a legislature allowed it to go on yeah and these

guys use Bitcoin to survive this event that's the point not only that but they collected on PayPal they collected millions of dollars from a fund and people all over the world I said 20 bucks so it's like a go fund me and PayPal froze it and confiscated has that ever happened before no

so I at that point I understand what centralization why it's a problem I immediately saw with a lot of clarity at transactional freedom is as important of freedom of expression because if the government can starve you to death you know you know freedom of speech becomes irrelevant if they can take

your mortgage if they can put you and your children on the street if they can put I mean I had one of these truckers tell me that he can't couldn't pay his album on me and and the police were coming after him so he you know because Trudeau had frozen his bank account he was now in jeopardy of

losing his freedom altogether and at that point that's when I said okay you know Bitcoin is a way to because they were also if you remember Erin Kovid they started to say oh paper currency is red germs and the ATM started disappearing in a lot of countries they took away the ATM's

I could see they're trying to shift us to you know all digital currencies you know and pre-conditioned what you really want yeah that's the goal and the the reason why I'm glad he's talking about this is because you know the Bitcoin community people say well we think Bobby

Kenny just is learning about Bitcoin from David Bailey and I said I don't think that that's the case I want to ask him directly not only how this ties to his family what happened in 63 71 but this is David Bailey David Bailey is a big Bitcoiner well I'm glad that you're saying that too

because that makes me even more happy because it sounds like you came to this indulgenously and realize that this is an abridged to freedom and yeah the question I have for you is do you think that some of the recent current events that have just shown up because of

scientists that showed there's a problem with the vaccine with SV 40 in it with DNA plasmas when that stuff wasn't supposed to happen and when you consider some of the legalese that was in the the emergency authorization I'm concerned that the things that happened in that lab with

David Ferry the exact same things that they did before we knew about how molecular biology worked they used a linach to create small little pieces of DNA and SV 40 to concentrate something and it's beyond me how now we know because of Kevin McKeeernan and because of Philip Buckles two guys who

probably you would have fought against in the last 10 or 15 years now have shown beyond a shadow of doubt that the same thing that Mary Stewart and Saras Stewart wrote in the treaties that was found that David Ferry died that's the smoking gun that Garrison had that yeah I don't know I mean

you know that book is very compelling but I don't I don't know do you know the story of SV 40 no so SV 40 was in the early about poly vaccines they were growing the polyavirus on a substrate of of a masticated monkey kidneys African green monkeys oh yeah they were using African green monkeys

they were also there's other forms of the vaccine Stanley Kupinski's was using bot about chimpanzees which there's all book about that's where the HIV virus made the leap into human beings but anyway what they didn't know at that time because they couldn't you couldn't see viruses you

can't find them you know they're too small there was no micro scopes at that time I remember DNA was discovered in 53 this is going on 50 51 52 so the state of molecular biology at that time was what I would call rudimentary right so that well what they didn't realize these monkeys had

hundreds hundreds of viruses that nobody knew what would happen if they jumped into human beings and now you're and and what they there was a very very famous scientist who was most award-winning scientist at that time in NIH I was Bernie S. Eddie and I think she actually knew

Mary Stewart no no no not only did she know that you're making me very happy Bob because guess what the fact that you know Bernice because I'm going to tell you the guy Kevin McKiernan I just told you about yeah I tweeted at him yesterday I said when I talked to Bobby tomorrow I'm going to make you

as famous as Bernice Eddie because her career was destroyed for telling the truth she's the one and he'll know this this story better I don't mean to interrupt you but I'm I get excited when you you get right there Marcus Hilleman who was a leading researcher from Merck gets all the credit

he invented that mmR vaccine right he gets all the credit though for this story that Bobby is laying out and yeah and just to tell you kind of briefly what it is she discovered that there were the virus there's all these viruses and it and 1955 right and one of the virus

they were she called them semi-inviruses so as V and the 40th one she discovered was a virus that was extraordinarily um uncogenic and it was carcinogenic it didn't cause cancer in the African Green Monkeys but today out of 2023 anytime SV 40 is in another vector it causes cancer yeah in

fact they use it in in laboratories that are studying tumors they use it to induce tumor tumor growth so you give it to a uh uh uh guinea pig and it will sprout tumors like a mushroom field you know it's the most it's the most carcinogenic stuff that they that they know of at least that

when when I was looking at it it was absolutely sturdier why was this research happening in the 50s what were they trying to do well they were no they were they were making uh polio viruses on the substrate so the way that you grow a vaccine that together make a vaccine when you mass produce a

vaccine you need to grow the culture and the you have to grow it either on human tissue which is hard to get and you know legal problems and ethical moral problems or you can and also there there are disease problems because if the human has a disease it could get in uh you know the the

vaccine is not pure a lot of that that that monkey material is getting into the vaccine and the viruses we're getting into the vaccine and Bernice atty right before they distributed the vaccine there was 98 million doses about to be distributed she goes to her boss and IH said you can't do it

because it's filled with this carcinogen that's going to give everybody cancer she injected just so you know she injected the monkeys with the cutter vaccine and they got polio but here's with the story that is kind of another part of that story let me tell you the part that I want you

to hear so guests who is a big investor in cutter pharmaceuticals alton osher so what did he do he got the entire medical staff in 1951 in the amphitheater brought his two grandchildren in and injected his granddaughter and grandson and the grandson died of polio five days later

and then guess what the granddaughter got polios she survived so who tells me this story is John osher the guy that I told you before it's an unbelievable story where he reports this to her bosses at IH and they ignore her they tell her to shut her mouth wow as there was so much publicity

at that time that they had this vaccine that was going to eliminate polio and it was you know there was like a freight train or a you know an engine that they could not stop at this point they said no we can't put the brakes on this thing so they she then kept her mouth shut but then about

six months later she was at a New York Academy of Science meeting right she went to she went to a conference of scientists and she you know was so frustrated at at that conference which was an insider's group he told them and they and and NIH went berserk they moved her the basement

they took away her laboratory they took away her telephone and they told her that she was not allowed to talk to anybody without permission from the NIH bosses and you know she really to scrub from scientificism yeah but so was the people that worked with Brinney's and by the way

our generation which is you know I'm 69 how old you 60 yeah so my generation was that baby blue generation we all got that vaccine this year and you know I think the soft tissue cancer which the cancers that it causes are ten times what they were in the previous generation from my generation

all these you know breast cancers colon cancers etc and in many of those cancers in the tumors they find us V40 wow so Rick think about this who was the first head of the national cancer institute Alton Asher who was one of his best friends Richard Nixon who declared the war on

cancer 1971 Richard Nixon and Alton Asher in the backseat of a Lincoln continental I told you out of the picture over right so you asked Bobbie a question earlier how and why Alton Asher knew that he caused a huge problem so what was the solution to go find the two best scientists in the

world that could somehow figure out how to activate SV 40 what was the idea to go get an off covert ops through the four congressmen I told you about Louisiana hell bogs me in one of them and they got a hellburt and grant for Ossner to get a linach the linach was put in the basement

of the US public linach is a linear accelerator right which is one of the most complex and expensive these emissions even today it is but just so you know Bobbie and it was put in a a US public health hospital across the street from children's hospital on Henry Clay Boulevard makes

no sense well it makes a lot of sense when you understand the story that I want you to understand and how I came to know this stuff and why I came out so hard and heavy against COVID you know before the vaccines in 2020 when I told all my members if you take this

you are going to have a problem down the road because I felt and I've been vindicated now that the same things that happened in that underground lab on magazine street and at the US public health hospital would show up and cut our 2.0 which is what we're living through right now

and guess what Kevin McKeeerning was the first guy who did what Bernie said he did he said look just so you know he's the guy that worked on the human genome project he's a molecular biologist very very good guy now works in the cannabis industry doing molecular biology for them he happened just

to take some expired vials decided to check it and he found the DNA plasmas which shouldn't be in there according to all the four the essay 40 and regular DNA plasmas and he reported it so who got on his case this guy named Philip Buckholz who is a huge geneticist from the University of South

Carolina so they got into a Twitter war and and Buckholz said I'm just going to cut to the chase and prove this asshole wrong so he does the same things takes the same vials and finds exactly the same result a reason I'm concerned now because I made the point is Buckholz did he come clean oh

he's he's an academician who's totally part of the vaccine lobby yeah but guess what now he's confirmed the modern day Bernice that he's finding so now where we are and I know you've been busy the last couple weeks this is the latest current events going on in this world yeah I saw references

to it but I haven't that they've now found they've found it and the reason why this is interesting to happen and and well why don't you explain what they are but what the DNA plasmid is and I want to go back to really what Sarah Stewart Mary Stewart and the linach meant for this why did

Oscar get in this game he was trying to solve a problem that he caused so he thought by radiating these viruses a good idea Sarah Stewart was the smart smart smart one she went to medical school at the university Chicago with Sarah Stewart and she was the first one that ever came up with the idea

that viruses caused cancer everybody in the NIH at that time thought she was batched crazy so they put her to the side until the stuff with polio showed up then she gets reassigned from the NIH to the US public health hospital where Mary Stewart is there so what is Sarah Stewart because Sarah

Stewart wrote the recipe of how the science has done Jim Garrison found that in David Ferries apartment when he was dead okay Sarah is the Einstein who's the theoretician to figure this out Mary Stewart was the experimenter she is the one that was trained in nuclear physics at the

university Chicago she know how to use a linach so what did Oscar do with the help of the people in the government remember these are the people Russell Long who used to be UEP Long's son is a prominent senator Elender Hale Boggs there's all four they control the entire military budget and

one of the guys get fried in that linear accelerator that's the story that I'm I want to get to Bob because that's what we got fried was Mary Stewart yeah that's right and Mary Stewart gets fried why because what was the going getting fried that's a well we're going to get there but there's

parts of this that you need to know I remember reading about it but it's not a good thing to walk into well there was a guy literally there was a guy that actually built linear accelerators his name was Nygard and he happened to walk in front of one and he completely disintegrated like he had no

body left but here's where the story gets interesting so what did Oscar do he gets the people to give him a hillburnt grant hell boggs is one of those guys they buy this machine put it in the US public health hospital reassigned Sarah Stewart get Mary Stewart from austinert to go over there

and then begin to irradiate the SV 40 virus to try to kill it and what did they find experimentally that they actually strengthened it and it became a bio weapon so that's unbelievable no it's not unbelievable because guess what we know how it works why because let's fast forward now to today's

scientists why did I warn people this was going to come this guy Schlemmer figured out this is ancient you know to guys like buckholtz and and mcclearnin that 7% of DNA is naturally transmitted from the virus into humans that's the base rate when you add an x-ray like the electromagnetic spectrum

to the mix you stimulate DNA repair so you concentrate the effect that's effectively what Mary Stewart found why doesn't modern day mcclearnin know this Bobby probably is already putting this together because this was a covert operation that was never published in the literature so he has

nothing to go back and say why this happened I'm telling you why it happened because at the time in New Orleans when austinert saw that he couldn't solve the SV 40 problem he actually saw another way to take care of his Cuban problem if you make this virus and put it in tobacco or get somebody

to inject guess what you can induce cancer literally overnight even in humans and guess what fairy Judith fairy Baker Lee Harvey Oswald and Mary Stewart found that it worked why did Clay Shaw get put on trial by garrison why was he the guy because the day before Martin Luther King's

speech I have a dream Clay Shaw drove his black catalog to Clinton Louisiana with David fairy and Lee Harvey Oswald where they transferred a patient from Angola prison to a mental hospital in Clinton Louisiana why did they pick Clinton because it's a sleepy little town mostly black nobody

would be there but what magically happened that day to let you know that the orthodoxy behind his uncle and his father's ultimate demise was coming Lee Harvey Oswald decided to register to vote in the middle of a black town the day of I have a dream speech and the reason for that is because

that's the day they were going in and inject the bio weapon into the prisoner when did all hell break loose it worked they brought Judith fairy Baker up to test the prisoner who got the cancer literally was dead within two weeks she went nuclear on Alton Asher because she was promised

as part of this lab that she would be able to go into Tulane Medical School get advanced standing because of all the work that she was doing with Sarah Stewart and Mary Stewart so she takes off Alton Asher says you're never going to medical school you're done just so you know the

timeline here this is the end of August of 63 the timeline between the people in the book that you talked about before this was a race do we get Kennedy or do we get Castro then they knew that they have this weapon here was their problem do you remember when Lee Harvey Oswald defected to Russia

and then went to Mexico and everybody was like this seems like the weirdest story they needed him to defect to Russia so that he could get in to Cuba to deliver the bio weapon turns out there was a big flying out of him and that Castro was on top of that so what happens eventually

the whole lab dissipates goes away six months later after his uncle was killed Mary Stewart is going back to continue her research and magically the kill switch there's a huge problem she grabs it with her right hand pulls it down her right arm is completely disintegrated

her thoracic cavities exposed underlying organs exposed this of course makes big news in New Orleans it's in the time spiky in and the NOPD says that it was a mattress fire that caused this problem well they took her body and put it in there they moved the body from the US public health hospital

to there and here's the thing Nick Chatter to her apartment and Nick Chatter had a mattress right and they lit it on fire they lit on fire but it only half burned and it just was you know it was no way that the forensics matched the injury yeah anybody actually I think in that

the book that you gave me before I think it was Mary's monkey the author of that book describes kind of graphically and very interesting that he he goes to a lot of crematoriums and he interviews the people in the crematoriums about what does it take to actually

disintegrate human body and it has to get up to you know 100 2000 C because what's always left is the bones but remember all that he looks at how she has no right arm how the bones aren't even there right how hot yeah that's right because

the crematoriums say and he can't get rid of the bows right they have to grind it up that's actually what's in your ashes I mean people probably listen to this are probably like great I don't want to know this now and he looks at the calculate that he talks to people about what temperature

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because that she was the only link what happens in the autopsy Nick Cheddar the same guy we talked about fairy does the autopsy on her and finds that there was a surgical wound place between her six-in-a-coastle space neither one of you are doctors but you happen to be sitting next one

I'm gonna tell you that's exactly a kill shot to get into someone's heart and why was that the case because when she got this electricity she wasn't grounded and I went down to this hospital when I was a resident and there was huge grounding things on either side okay that current went

straight through her she was still alive when this injury happened so they transported the reason they had to get rid of her is because she was the hard link evidence back to usher and that was the thing that I was very concerned about now I didn't tell you this earlier how did I put all

this together you know who my emergency room nurse was my first month of residency for Jenny Garrison she worked in the Echarity Hospital and what is her relationship with Jim's daughter and she told me she goes I know that later in your neurosurgery residency you're gonna go to

Austin she goes I want to tell you be very careful when you go over there and I thought you know this was like shocking because this is this is a woman who was just like her dad she was a bulldog and I'll never forget what she said to me she goes just be careful especially with the sons

of Alton because at that time Alton Ossher died in 81 he was dead about nine or 10 years and everybody neurons to this day still you know things glowing things about him but when I got into neurosurgery and I started to realize going down to the basement the linach move for Mary

Stewart injury they called the linach eye up to reconfigure the platinum hood it shows up in the basement of the place I do my residency where is it now well I can't tell you where it is now but it was in the basement I residency when I graduated in the 99 and I can tell you that I used it

with the neurosurgeons there to do brain tumor surgery acoustic neuromers and things like that the reason I want to bring this up to you is because I had the opportunity to talk to J.O. before he died and he told me straight up that his dad worked for the FBI and he worked for the CIA and the

reason that nobody knew that Tulane University was on par with Harvard Hopkins and the Mayo Clinic is because this stuff the stuff that you wrote about in Fauci's book about Forti trick I want you to know the original lab was on magazine street and it was in the US public

health hospital it was then transferred to the Yerks lab that I worked at as a resident and then in the Yerks lab I happened to work with an anesthesiologist whose dad is the first really the first person that ran the Delta primates Center in coming to so hopefully your question

that fits maybe this would be probably chapter zero of your Fauci book where did all the stuff that Oster and Ferry and Mary Stewart go it's my belief that it went to the Delta primates Center in coming to Louisiana and that happened in 61 on 64 where was it eventually transferred

to Forti trick and that's when Bobby Kennedy's book picks it up and the reason why I think this is important Bobby especially with you running for president now my belief is if we forget history we're doomed to repeat it and I'm seeing it unfold this story that started with your family

back in the in the 50s and 60s is now manifesting right now and this is how I feel and I probably shouldn't get political about this but I'm going to the day your uncle was killed the heart of the American populace was removed in 68 when Martin Luther King and your dad were killed

that's when the head and the soul of the country was mordly injured I think what you're doing right now the way you've come to run this is the heart transplant that American needs right now it's a travesty concerning what we've talked about today what your family's been through and what you've

done I mean let's face it you put the target on your back I will say this yes because it's of interest what you said this morning I had a guy come over my fence that's why I was late getting here and I would previously sent me a week ago an email through another person that gave

it to me threatening to put a bullet in my head and when I in this morning my security guards saw him come up with a fence and you know we're able to arrest them but that's why I was like coming here and I mean one of the issues you know I worried about my family of course and my wife

was doing a Twitter space at the time and watched him come over and then get arrested but um and also it's disturbing you know to every it ought to be disturbing to every American because it's part of this politicization law enforcement agencies you know which we've seen which is not

one of the first things my dad said when he got to the Justice Department was to call all the attorneys into a conference and say there's going to be no political prosecutions here um that you know we treat everybody the same and you know he ended up prosecuting people who he knew well

including his brother law for you know for an antitrust issue oh um you know um President Biden has a bus my father behind him on the oval office and you know but this is you know something my father felt very strongly about not politicizing the CIA the FBI the secret

service the IRS and it's disturbing that that's happening today but it is so relevant to what's happening which is really the decline of the republic you know and and we know it's going to happen at some point there's no empire that's lasted uh this long and and actually democracy is such a tiny sliver of the human experience there's never really been you know a democratic government the democratic government is rarely the human experience oh we know you know it's unstable and it's

it's fragile and we know that it can't last forever but I don't think any mess was sawed it declining so precipitously my uncle came into office with this um with a real activity toward war you know he immediately encountered the military industrial complex and he said that he didn't want

African children to uh and Latin American children and Asian children when they heard about the United States of America to think of a man with a god you wanted to think of a B-score volunteer of uh um of the Kennedy milk program which gave nutrition to tens of millions

uh malnourished kids around the world and um and the alliance for progress in USAID which he created to put America on the side of the floor to end run the military hunt as the olicar keys who were hoarding American dollars at that point and instead you know put it into actually

building middle classes in this country and creating democracy and then four months in you know the big invasion he was lied to by Dallas by Richard Bissle by Charles Kabel the three top officers of the CIA and when the men were dying on the beach which was the lowest point in his presidency

he uh he publicly took the blame for the invade for the you know that episode but privately he said to his aides I want to take the CIA shatter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the the wizz Bobby I don't think a lot of people know how all these pieces all fit together I cannot believe

that the president of this country doesn't have the common sense to protect you irrespective of what the rules and everything else say just for what your family's been through we owe it to you as taxpayers and for him to make that decision to me is unforgivable absolutely unforgivable and for anybody to question you why you're not going to run as a democrat and you're going to run as an independent that alone stands as a perfect reason why you need to do it the key thing is people

need to know that freedom is under attack it's under attack in many different ways the the architects that Eisenhower talked about are now taking pitchforks chain saws and nuclear weapons to the pillars of this country what's in our constitution and we all of us collectively have to come

together and say you know we're sick and tired of this shit we need to take the country back we need to do it's right we may not always agree on every single issue but the one issue that we do need to agree about this country is about life liberty and the pursuit of happiness it's in the founding documents but guess what John Adams and Thomas Sharerson never thought that the angle

of attack to the U.S. Constitution would be Anthony Fauci and it took 200 years to get there until we get the the by-doll act and back it up with the 86 vaccine people forget the by-doll act is the act that allowed researchers and NIH to collect royalties on any medical

product that they work on and actually NIH so it incentivizes that it incentivizes exactly kind of the prefer it's a person set of that encourage a regular the regular is supposed to find problems with the product yes and you know the you got now I give you an example the

Moderna vaccine is owned by NIH half of it so half the royalties go to NIH and then and then there's six individuals that were hand picked by Anthony Fauci who worked for NIH who have marched in rights for the patent so they can get royalties of a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year

for the entire for as long as that products on the market as mRNA vaccines which will be indefinitely on the market so they're paying for their houses their kids education their boats with that and you don't you know they now have very little incentive to find problems with

that product they're incentive is to make sure that there's maximum uptake of that project because that that maximizes their their income the the mercantile ambitions of these individuals and the institution itself as you can see will ultimately naturally subsume the regulatory function

of the agency which is to protect public health above anything else it's not it's not a good system and that all started the by-doll like which I think is 1984 1980 and then the 86 I came in but the the point that I want to add to to the Sunday he just built three of this

the cherry just realized in the last four months that Anthony Fauci and Collins got royalties over three hundred and fifty million dollars just realized that well the two of them did not get those royalties people who worked yeah but they get to dictate where the money goes that's right

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I don't know whether you'd call it a cartel but it's a it's kind of what I would describe as a corrupt merger of state and corporate power oh it's all of these the unammonic and mechanism so what what what we call agency capture I wish the regulated industries the regulator becomes

a sock puppet for the industry is supposed to regulate there's a you know there's a well-documented phenomena that happens everywhere and kind of into different accents and agencies all over the world in every state but it's it's unsterroids in the United States because there are you not only

have a pharmaceutical industry that's making that is now the biggest industry in the world but you also you have a regulatory agency that are financially tied to the pharmaceutical industry for example 50% of or 45% of FDA's budget comes from pharma which is crazy it's like if I you know

I EPA is a captured agency is captured by oil and coal and pests I'm not by pharmaceutical but I it'd be hard for me to imagine how bad how much worse EPA would be if if it got 50% of its revenues from coal company which is bad and it was dependent on you know on the coal

companies making money when I I sued Monsanto you know we came across emails that show that the head of the pesticide division at Monsanto for a decade was secretly working for I mean the head of the pesticide division of EPA was secretly working for Monsanto and he was taking instructions

from them and you know in one point they tell them to kill a study that's being done by another agency and he said that's not even my agency I'm going to kill it for you but you've got to give me a gold medal and the first two cases they wouldn't let us show that in the jury the third judge did

and that's why we got 2.2 billion and that is what brought Monsanto to the negotiating table that goes on throughout the industry but what's happening with the public health agencies where C-45% of the CDC's budget goes to purchasing vaccines and then promoting their uptake so you don't

get promoted at the CDC I funny problems with vaccines you get promoted by increasing uptake and and that's how your salary your evaluations your promotions are all linked to that and then NIH which is the FDA CDC and NIH and IH as I explained earlier the people in NIH are actually

allowed to collect royalties on the vaccines they work on NIH is now the biggest incubator pharmaceutical products they used to do straight science but what it does now is it produces new drugs for the pharmaceutical industry and then profits on them so their regulatory

function has become corrupted and then you have these other very very troubling ingredients which is the involvement of the military and the intelligence apparatus in vaccine production which is and with other drugs too but vaccines are a component of every bio weapon so and we started

but we launched a bio weapons arms race after the anthrax attacks in 2001 and you know bio weapons had been illegalized prior to that but the Patriot Act has a provision in it and I'll tell you what what can I tell you a little bit about the history please okay you talked about

Operation Paperclip Operation Paperclip was the first CIA project so it began literally in 1947 the year the month of the CIA was created and the first mission of the CIA was Operation Paperclip which was a project to smuggle take the Nazi scientists who had worked on missile production on

on bio weapon production chemical weapon production and make sure they weren't hanged at at Nuremberg because a lot of them had engaged in those in those endeavors and creating those they'd use slave labor and you know IG Farben which created the Zyklon B gas that was used to gas

that you use at Auschwitz and the other death camps was the biggest pharmaceutical company it was it was it was a major player in the Third Reich they were entire trials at Nuremberg that are called the IG Farben trials with their entire executive suite was jailed because they were I

think they had 60,000 slaves and they worked at that 30,000 of those they were also doing a lot of human experimentation and all of this kind of stuff but they were developing gases and and they were developing bio weapons for the Third Reich which during the World War II they didn't

use Japan had a much more extensive program under a scientist called Shiro Ishi who was like the Bengali of Japan and he they had had an extensive bio weapon program they killed they used bio weapons during their war with China which was happening simultaneously to World War II and they killed

half million Chinese using bio weapons they're the only ones really to deploy it on on at scale and they and so the CIA's job was to go get those scientists make sure they weren't executed give them new names give them new identities and then bring them over basically what recruit them

recruit them to Fort Dietrich or to you know there's some other bio labs that we had in the United States so that they could we could put them to work developing bio weapons here our bio weapons we began pouring money in it was it was run by George Merck so the head of Merck Roosevelt recruited him

to run it and it was being run it was run between 1947 and 19 and 1969 you know Stanley Gottlieb absolutely it was it was one of the you know the really terrible human beings who was running MK ultra programs in operation artichoke MK MK Naomi MK Dietrich MK Ultra the MK prefix means

mind control so they were studying they were using they were using a honesty you know yeah well they did everything they did psychotropic drugs they did immunosated sensory deprivation they did all kinds of developing all kinds of poisons all kinds of torture devices and propaganda and they

were studying at a hundreds of universities where they were you know pumping money to social scientists at universities to study how do you control human behavior on an individual basis including how do you create Manchurian candidates involuntary assassins and then how do you do a mass

control you know what are the propaganda techniques at work if a if a foreign entity wants to impose control on indigenous cultures you know so and they were studying all these things for years and those and and those use a lot of chemicals which were tied into Fort Dietrich which was the

big lab that was created around that time and then but they were also dosing they were doing open air they did over a hundred open air trials where they they would try out chemicals they would they would dose San Francisco or they would dose some other American city they did they lose yeah

the New York City subway systems that's true they dose national airport the the air conditioning system they were they were don't they probably 50 cities you know from the beginning they weren't doing this to control other people they were developing these to control they were testing it on

America one it has the vulnerability of America to a foreign bioweapons attack that's what they said they were doing they were they and by the way it was all being supervised by Nazi scientists it was really it's crazy it's so crazy me Bobby is too much it's unbelievable 1969 they had

to reach nuclear equivalents they could kill the entire US population they said for 29 cents per death which was better than you could do with a nuclear bomb with nuclear bombs of that ear Nixon does the greatest thing that he he did which is he goes to Fort Dietrich and he said we're

shutting it all down the only thing I think he did in his presidency that was good they realized that well you pass the clean air act clean water act he created EPA you know he did a lot of it keeping it screaming but he did some good stuff so on but what they realized is that they were

creating poor man's nuclear bombs that if they could keep them not really on nukes that they were in good shape because there's only a few people could up for the program if you develop a bio weapon you do the scientists who develop it gets against his credentials from publishing

so they were publishing what they were doing you know they weren't widely read but you know they were accessible to anybody who wanted them and they basically gave them blue prints for creating these things in a garage wow and so and they realized we're creating things that are

going to be used against us and and that can be developed on a busman's budget with nuclear equivalents yes so they they realized this is a bad thing and and Nixon and Kissinger decided to shut it down and they unilaterally shut down all bio weapons developments

I'm right at the time they were closing Fort Dietrich they were destroying all of their stocks the CIA's and the godly Sydney godly Lenny and who's this guy who was this really insane scientist who was one of his principal obsessions was head transplants which he was doing a lot

of unprimates he was you know trying he was trying to break I have I actually have pictures from the earth's lab I actually showed it to him yesterday of the things that I used to see that we would take the skulls off put the wires in and do all kinds of different things and people

don't realize that this stuff was going on in American universities everywhere and Tulane was one of the CIA's hotspots which is why nobody to this day knows that they were on par with Harvard Hopkins and Mayo so in 69 he says all over godly goes in there into the Fort Dietrich lab and

takes the worst cultures that they had and smoke goes them out and stores them in warehouses in New York and so the CIA maintains ability to continue to develop these cultures in 73 thanks to Nixon basically a hundred country signed a bio weapons charter making it illegal to research bio

weapons etc that shut it down kind of the CIA was secretly still doing it with Battal you know Battal the engineering firm and they developed an anthrax bomb they did it all top secret and illegally but generally it was shut down in this country and then in 2000 in 911 we get attacked

and weekly there's an anthrax attack and the anthrax is then used as a pretense it was explained on Sodom Hussein and it's used as a pretense to go to war with Iraq and to pass the Patriot Act 45 days yeah who got who got a head with the anthrax the two senators who were

leading the fight against the Patriot Act my major act was taking off the shelf a 911 and ram through Congress nobody read it the only congressman to actually read who was Dennis Kusinich who was you know until recently running like you also you give credit to Barber Lee she's the one

that voted against it and took a lot of you Kusinich voted against it too so they um but what the the Patriot Act then the the two senators who were sent anthrax with the two guys who were leading the fight against the Patriot Act time to ash on and lay and lay and they it shuts down Congress

the act passes in record time you know nobody's read it but one of the provisions of the Patriot Act says that the bioweapons charter still stands and the Geneva Convention which you know made a death penalty for developing bioweapons still stands however no federal officer can be

prosecuted for violations of those acts I like that indemnification so they basically they got rid of the the budget right now what happened the backstory is the FBI investigates the origins of anthrax which are we're already a war with Saddam for for hitting us with anthrax and after

year the FBI determines this was Ames anthrax highly sophisticated weaponized Ames anthrax I could only have come from Fort Detroit how do you like that oh it was it was somebody associated with the Fort Detroit was either me the army or the CIA inside job right was to be so funny

got the Patriot Act so now they've reopened the arms trade the bioweapons arms race because now Americans but the Pentagon is worried about launching an arms race because it is a death penalty and what if the Patriot Act turns out not to be legitimate right you know usually you can't

you can't override a treaty with a statutorily you know and so that means trees and they can be killed you can be hanged Crackle of that exactly the Pentagon didn't want to openly start a bioweapons program so they began funneling money about two billion dollars a year to NIH specifically to

NIH ID and they made Anthony Fauci the the lead uh developer biosecurity developer which means bioweapons developer starting to see where this is all ahead and um he then gets a 68 percent raise from the Pentagon and that's why he was the highest paid official in American history he

was getting $450,000 a year the president gets $400,000 so I think there's 2.3 million federal employees he gets he got paid more than any of them the reason was because the Pentagon had more than doubled his salary to give him responsibility for bioweapons development now

he immediately he opens all these BSL4 labs in Boston and Galveston all over the country in North Carolina and he pays for them out of this his money but then in 2014 three of his bugs escape high profile escapes they you know they find leaks if I've got a smallpox you know that

somebody had left and you know and I've unprotected in a lab and you know a broken box and 300 scientists top scientists in the country like Richard Ebert send a letter to Obama saying you have to shut down Anthony Fauci because he's going to cause

a global pandemic and Obama declares more to him shuts down 18 projects of Fauci's and Fauci responds to that is to move his operations to Wuhan and that's how we end up in Wuhan and you know and to share the technology cutting edge technology with Xi Jinping and Ben Hu

and all these scientists over there Lin Fapat the scientists over there who were you know ultimately responsible for for developing you know the COVID-19 the virus that got the COVID-19 almost you know 100% certainly tell me about them on Santa trail

on Santa oh you know on Santa's a company well on Santa was a company that I was fighting since I was young I mean I met Rachel Carson at my house when I was a boy she had written the book you know up until then we you know the the pesticides and the pesticides scientists were the

heroes they had helped win the war against against Hitler you know by by you know most deaths at that time were from infectious diseases that were spread by insects BDT it's up malaria and it's tracks etc and some of the in the Japanese wars so they had won the war against Hitler now they

were going to win the war against the bugs and we were going to finally have abundant food pass would be eliminated etc and everybody considered the hero until 1961 Rachel Carson published this book that shows Americans and she was a beautiful beautiful writer her writing is like poetry she was

a marine biologist who not was born in Harrisburg Pennsylvania never saw the ocean until she was 22 years old but she had this gift or conveying complex scientific concepts to the public in lay language and beautiful poetic lay language so her book became a record world record best on spring

a spring and she basically showed the public that you know although on the outside it looked like pests were being killed we were all getting killed and our pets were getting killed and the birds were going to disappear and these pests were actually you know critical part of the food web for

America's songbird population and that's why the you know the the title silence is that we're you know the bird songs are going to be extinguished she came under attack by Monsanto which was the manufacturer DT which did the it did the blueprint for the you know tobacco industry and

everything else how do you describe how do you destroy this scientist they did everything they publicly you know every time they referred to her they would call her a spencer which was the modern or the contemporary uh perjordive that suggested lesbianism and uh and so they went after her she

was dying of cancer and she never rose in a fenders of my uncle appointed a commission to study the book and the the commission came back and completely vindicated hers and everything went through everything she had three references for every factual assertion of the book because she

knew she was going to be attacked and she was a very careful scientist my uncle vindicated her and DT ended up getting banned in 73 she inspired earth day and 70 and then 73 DT is banned Monsanto needs a a a a new blockbuster flagship product that time they somebody had invented

glyphosate as a as a tank to scaleant to to get the corrosion and the calcification out to spend the rest from the inside of of you know storage tanks and something happened I mean there's a simplification of a long story but somebody throws this stuff out on the in the yard and they see

all the grasses dead they say oh this could be a good herbicide and Monsanto's the time Monsanto needed a new product so it gives the service I have the first 20 years it's applied by man from back farm workers back back spray back so they walk through the corn fields where they see the weed they

spray give it a little jolt and it dies I don't have to bend over and pull it up so it saves time in 93 somebody sprays it on on on this again a simplification of the story yes somebody sprays it on a weed that doesn't I and they realize that weed has genetic

immunity oh they remove the gene from that weed they identify it and they put it in a corn seed and now they've got a they've got corn called Round of Reddy corn which is immune to to glyphosate so now they can fire all the farm workers a fly an airplane one guy an airplane

over saturate the entire landscape with Roundup and everything green dies except the Roundup Reddy corn it becomes very very cheap for the first couple of years before they cause a start blowing it and then would you still call it corn or is it a new thing this round of

well you can dispute angels on that at the bed but it is a GMO it's a GMO it's a GMO corn it's an alien that lives on the planet yeah and so then in 90 and and so it quickly gets 85 captures 85 percent of the corn market in this country 99 percent and there's all kinds of other problems

that go along with it they own it you know and they you can't they won't give you seeds for the next year so you have the buy it from every year and there's all these losses it's a nightmare for farmers but they end up becoming getting on that gerbil will not be him to get off

then in nine in 2006 they discover that glyphosate one it they're they by now they have Roundup Reddy corn Round of Reddy soil soil I think barley a bunch of other so now everything's Roundup Reddy but not wheat wheat is what you eat most of it's in your bread your pasta you know your cereal all

this up they Roundup Reddy so they're on Roundup Reddy wheat but what they find is that if you spray Roundup on the wheat right before harvest it dries it out so if there's a rainstorm a spring rain or a autumn rain it you won't get mold on it which which mold is a huge rain on farm income

and so they weafarmers they tell all the farmers starts spraying it as a desiccant and they do it now what that means is that they Roundup that almost all but probably 90% of the Roundup that's ever been sold has been sold between 2006 and now because that was the biggest years but now

they're spreading it is running it directly on the food because it's right before harvest this stuff is ready to go to the mill before they were spraying it early in the season you know unweeds that until they couldn't catch up with the corn and then you don't care about the weeds anymore

right now so most of it was getting washed off during the year now they're spreading it right on food and all of it's on that year you see this burst and you know in gluten allergies and and you know as sealeac disease when you say it washes off the food where does it go well it

goes into the soil and it destroys the soil biome right which is not good no so anything so for anything that's decentralized in the short term it destroys what it's destroying but in the long term if you wash it off it's destroying whatever the whatever which is the basis of the

entire food web but it actually goes in our ground water and eventually into our waterways yeah it has it has it doesn't have let me put it this way and enduring half life so it's not like atrozen or pfoAs that once they're in your water that you're

those are the forever chemicals yeah can you explain what forever chemicals are the forever chemicals are are chemicals that i mean pfoAs the most notorious one and i've litigated on that too my they made a film about my law suit called dark waters with mark ruffle

law on that suit but they you know they're they don't your body cannot process them the molecules just are bio accumulate and they cause all kinds of problems in fluke learning a lot of number and agron disruptors but they're carcinogenic you know the atrozen is the worst

agron disruptor you know it literally you know there's this very famous experiment where this guy a doctor a Tyler uh forget what his last name but you can look at google it and he took 27 male frogs and put them in aquariums with water that was contaminated with atrozen at levels that were

below the EPA permissible rate for drinking water this is water that could be in the drinking water supply yeah the EPA there would be no trigger if it up until that yes the public water supply has no duty to tell you that it's in there because it's not at a danger level okay and what happened to the frogs of the 27 male frogs 20 of them became sterile seven of the males turn female and were able to produce fertile eggs oh you know it sounds incredible but I all you have to do is just

google the 27 male frogs the name the first name of the scientist is Tyler I forget but anyway it's you know well known well known science I mean we've known about it for a long time and it's it's a huge problem so yeah is that one of the things that you fought against yeah atrozen yeah but uh

and who makes atrozen what's it used for pharmaceutical company but do you know it was used for yeah it's a it's a pesticide pesticide anyway I'm with with monstant and you ask how do you sort of break up the medical and industrial complex and I and I can you know how do you get decentralized

medicine correct if I'm present I can do that and I know exactly how I'll tell you that I'm very interested well what what you first of all I'm gonna go to NIH to Bethesda my first week in there and I'm gonna say them the NIH is a 42 billion dollar budget it's giving that money to 56 thousand scientists who are mainly universities in the US but they're getting this and a lot of them are doing drug development on the rest of them are mainly studying infectious disease in which there's

a lot of money and they do gain a function so with infectious disease is not the big problem in this country chronic disease is we've gone from a chronic disease rate of 6% when my uncle's president 11.8% 1986 to 54% wow 2006 and then NIH not publishing that data but we don't know those data we

don't know we know it's a lot higher than 54 yeah it's probably it's probably 60 I mean one out of every seven kids out of the disease just think about this this is what I said to you yesterday about centralized medicine is if you look at it just on a financial basis the return on equity

Bobby will tell you we spend more money in this country and we get the lowest return on equity for health so you think we have four the budget for health is 4.3 trillion the military including national security is one point three trillion so this is 4.3 trillion

3.7 trillion goes to chronic disease and one which was practically nothing it was it's 22 times higher than what was being spent in 1960 in relationship to GDP so and and you know we had during COVID this shows you know the impact of that we had during

COVID the highest death rate the body count in the world we had 16% of the COVID deaths we only have 4.2% of the global population I don't know why people are getting medals and you know millions all are a world Nobel prize yeah for makes no sense right well because we we miss

handled it we're we're rewarding shitheads yeah and and part of that is because of mismanagement catastrophic mismanagement and data chaos and all this stuff they went along with it but also we have the highest chronic disease burden in the world and CDC said the average person who died

from COVID at 3.8 chronic disease so they had obesity diabetes asthma and something else right and then some of them at 8 or 9 so we're the sickest population and that makes us more of the these people are not dying of COVID they were dying you know they they we're dying we push them

off the cliff yes so I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna say look we're gonna give infected disease a break and we're gonna find out what's causing the chronic disease epidemic now all just rates have gone from one in 10,000 in my generation so men today right now of my

generation one in 10,000 of a full blown autism which means nonverbal non toilet trained head banging the stimming hand flapping to walking you know the the stereotyping features a lot of one in 10,000 in my kids generations one in 34 children that breaks that breaks

every law of neo-darrism and Darwinism so and the things going back is completely backward. Congress said to EPA tell us what year it started they didn't ask CDC as EPA EPA is a captive agency but it's captured by oil coal and pests I'm not by pharma because it doesn't regulate pharma so it came back with a real science and it said it's a red line 1989 so 1989 also was the year that all of these other crime many of the other ones food allergy suddenly appeared peanut allergy. So what

happened in 89? Okay let me tell you what happened in 89 neurological disease 80 to 80 HD speech lane language like ticks to register of narcolepsy ASD autism autoimmune diseases uh rumours later either right is suddenly exploded juvenile diabetes I never saw as a kid

suddenly exploded loop is groans all these were weird diseases that we never heard of suddenly they're everywhere and then the allergic diseases like peanut allergies food allergies eczema you never heard of eczema as a kid right now every classroom is kids with eczema and all these you

know asthma exploded my brother had asthma he was told by a doctor um he said he was told they'll never be a cure for asthma because it's so rare that nobody will ever study it well that was one out of every eight black kids and he knows it so you know and this 89 was the

better year when all this stuff starts happening and we know it's an environmental toxic because gene so caused epidemics gene gene they can provide the vulnerability say that again yeah because you know what that's that's what decentralized medicine yeah he's been pounding the table about for 20

years yeah and that's see that's it's not genetic it's not genetic it's not genetic it can get smaller ability but you need an environmental doctor remember what I said to you brimment I said that the NIH spends their money focusing on RNA and DNA when the real problem is the mitochondrial

DNA which is the environmental smoking gum lobby just loud and clear yeah so um there's a toxic college a very famous to have the college is called Phil Langerian and his amounts side in New York and I've used them on a lot of cases he shy of me because he knows vaccines is a you

know is a death trap for anybody with obvious prominence he won't go there but he knows something happened in 89 so he's done a bunch of papers that says okay what could it be there's a limited universe of things that and you have the you have to find a toxin became ubiquitous that year so

every a demographic from Cubans and keep us came to in you with the last car effected um it it and then there's some other features that are interesting which is it should be a toxin effect boys and a 41 ratio of neurological disorders the 41 ratio to girls right because that's

one of the features of of this the boys are deeply impacted by all these neurological injuries and so he's come up with I think about 13 suspects and and you know I can't tell you what all of them are but pfo a is one these follow the timeline which are flamerate hard and that was put

in all of our furniture child but pajamas around that area life has a okay um which again you know around the early 90s 93 is when it you know they developed round of reddicorn atrazine in nicotine pastisides same timeline cell phone wife on radiation right that's that's

the one that uncle jack highly favors from this list that I've been teaching about but there's a lot I think it's actually multi-final it's cute if our kids are far and they all they all operate on similar biological pathways which is the connectivity between neurons that is that is that

dies and your immune system is as and you have mitochondrial weaknesses and your natural immune system begins demanding energy and your body gives that a presence of your brain and your brain particularly for a kid is the biggest demander of energy gets 20% of the cardiac output and children the cardiac output is even greater than it is in adults which is the reason why they go through exorbitant growth because remember humans are the silly talking primates that aren't

born with their brain fully developed until they're 25 years old and then the vaccine schedule change in 89 so we went during the spirit we went from the three vaccines I got as a kid and you got to the 72 that our kids got and 1989 was the big change here because 86 was when they passed the

vaccine act and immunize the country of companies from liability so suddenly these companies made a gold rush because here's a product that number one you the federal government pays almost all the development costs number two the biggest cost to have remettus in his downstream liabilities

now that's just been eliminated number three there is no advertising and my marketing cost because the government is forcing 76 million kids to take it and number four there's no safety testing so vaccines are immune from pre-licency safety testing the only medical product because it's

essentially a military product that's every single vaccine rich there's not one of the 72 vaccines that was ever tested properly licensed her including the one controlled drugs I don't know that we all just were forced to that was the most as tested one industry so okay you ask how

am I going to fix this I'm going to tell them first of all we're going to do the real science well you know I'm going to call in the journals and say you know to the Justice Department say we're going to file racketeering since it's against you for attracting these you know these

free rejection just so you know you know who make Rico stature right yeah he's dead he's on that brought it in and then but also I'm gonna I'm gonna say we're gonna study chronic disease from now on and we're gonna find out what's causing it so he's gonna fund Doug Wallace's research

what is he saying he's gonna stop with the RNA DNA and let's go let's start looking at other places so now you'll say well even if you find out for sure that a certain product is causal these companies are so powerful and their lobby at farm is the biggest lobbying companies in the world

and you know let's say if you find out the high-fructural scorn syrup out is causing the obesity epidemic you know why is it when my uncle is present 6% of American kids robies they 42% are obese and 75% are overweight well how does that happen the kids and just suddenly get lazy they're being poisoned but you also understand high-fructural scorn syrup is a huge industry in this country there's millions of farmers that are tied into it there's an entire corn lobby there's you know one of the

most powerful lobbies on Capitol Hill how do you fix that here's how you fix it you do enough studies as the trial lawyers are gonna be able to get into court and they all start suing them and the government doesn't have to do anything it's just like we did with like life to say when we sued

on glyphosate which everybody said we couldn't do we had enough studies to get past the doubt for hearing which is the threshold and then we sued them and we made it too expensive and they were moved in all for home gardening but glyphosate is still being used for other things agriculture

we couldn't super agriculture because agricultural workers are exposed to so many pesticides no way to figure that it was impossible but home gardeners a lot of home that home gardener we represent 40,000 and and they all said the same thing I bought the glyphosate because it said

save as aspirin it is save and it said you don't even have to wear moon suit you can go out and the guy on the cover we showed the jury of the container is in a Bermuda shirts and shorts spreading glyphosate so they were telling them this is so safe you don't have to take any precautions

and then we show they knew that it was causing non- Hodges and Feminolique people so they've removed it from there but we couldn't super for food because you know because the agricultural workers have so many co-variables so it's still in the food yeah it's still on the food

well you couldn't even be an organic food or no well we found is that if you eat organic food that all the glyphosate is gone in 75 days from your body considering that you're in probably the most well thought of democratic family in the history of the country is it odd to be cast out

by your party well I mean I I feel like I thought it as hard as I could stay within a democratic party but you know it became clear that I was not going to be allowed to compete or to run and it was you know the DNC has in its charter that it that is not that it's supposed to be neutral

but what happened was Rick the you remember in 2016 Debbie Wasman Schultz was a secretly helping Hillary against Bernie yes and putting not her own ear finger but you know her leg and a lot of other stuff on this scale to make sure that who Bernie couldn't win and and so

the group of Bernie supporters sued the DNC after that election to say hey it says in your charter you're not allowed to do that this is like showing up at a football game and the referees are wearing your opponents jerseys right and you're not allowed to do that so by the federal judge

they litigated that case the federal judge said yeah they did it they fixed it but they can do it it's legal they're a private club they can make up their own rules they can change them when they want they don't have to pay them they can they can run it anyway they want it's a private club

so this time is really the first time where they've said oh there is no boundaries to what we can get away with now and so they came right out and they endure publicly and doors Biden and then they merged their campaigns of Biden and the DNC were indistinguishable they were operating out

of the same office they were you know DNC was fundraising and they can break all the fundraising rules they're not bound by the rules I was of $6600 max and they can get 700 thousand from an individual and basically give it right to Biden's campaign and so you know I was fighting this

being a myth and then they were changing the rules they changed the new Hampshire rules so that any photo I got a new Hampshire would count for a present Biden not for me and you know they're whole politicization of the and the weaponization that we've seen of the law enforcement agencies

with them not giving me secret service protection we're seeing that on every level you know the the the censorship that was being done of me in cooperation with you know with the FBI and the CIA this is all documented in judge Doty's 155 page federal decision that's now in the Supreme

Court and so it really became impossible for me to to run in the Democratic Party and then the media also which is aligned the media outlets like CNN MSNBC and New York Times that are completely aligned with the with the DNC and there's a whole lot of Democrats who that's all they read

that's all they see and if you're living in that if I was living in that information bubble I would consider myself a very disreputable crazy person because they never allowed an unfelted interview with me on any of those outlets and it was all you know just mischaracizations what I

said or I supposedly said and a stream of defamation I'm not complaining I'm just answering your question is this you know at some point it became impossible for me to compete on those landscapes and so it was an obvious choice that I had to make and once I once I'm sure of a choice I do it without a mole You