Today’s guest comes to the security world with a deep background in cloud and networks. Joe DePalo is Chief Platform Officer at Netskope, and the ideal person to help us understand how and why location matters in network security. We first identify how the network has changed over the past few years, gauging its impact on the threat landscape and how networks perform generally. Also on the agenda: why middle-mile performance and security should be part of the equation, and how lessons learned fr...
Oct 31, 2023•46 min•Season 5Ep. 8
We're asking the big questions about mobile advertising. Luckily, Ross Flynn of the Mobile Ecosystem Forum is with us to explain. Ross has a background in digital advertising, making him the ideal person to walk us through advertising formulas that pair ads with IPs. He talks to Greg about programmatic advertising—not just what it is, but how the practice impacts the mobile market. And then we get to the fun stuff: How do these advertising practices actually impact the mobile market? Is mobile a...
Oct 17, 2023•46 min•Season 5Ep. 10
In August, we joined a meeting of the OH Network User Group at the BrewDog hotel and brewery in Columbus, Ohio. (If you're unfamiliar with the Network User Association, they're worth checking out.) The Ohio chapter kindly agreed to let host Greg give a live talk on how enterprise WANs are changing and the implications of those changes for network costs. We brought lots of WAN data, fielded tons of questions, and very much enjoyed the networking vibes in Ohio. Full disclosure, we're definitely no...
Oct 10, 2023•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 27
We're thrilled to welcome William Collins, Principal Cloud Architect at Alkira, to the pod. We asked William to discuss the history of enterprise cloud and highlight a few of the bigger issues in enterprise cloud networking today. His answers might surprise you. We even discuss supercloud—what it is and what its implications are. Grab your super suit and punch the play to hear the full discussion. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast TeleGeograph...
Oct 03, 2023•55 min•Season 5Ep. 5
Telecom industry veteran Mark Daley, Epsilon Telecommunications Director of Digital Strategy and Business Development, joins us on the pod. After spending nearly a decade directly involved with SDN and NaaS at Epsilon, Mark is the perfect guest to discuss how NaaS is unfolding in the market. We start with Mark’s definition of NaaS and where he sees its availability in the current telecom services landscape. He also shares six important NaaS characteristics: visible, configurable, priceable, orde...
Sep 26, 2023•58 min•Season 5Ep. 4
Luis Fiallo has been in the telecom industry for over 25 years. For the majority of that time, he has been at China Telecom Americas, witnessing firsthand the many changes happening in the Latin American telecom market. After years of helping to drive CTA's growth in the region, Luis, now Vice President, has many valuable insights to share with TeleGeography Explains the Internet. Peter Wood, TeleGeography’s Senior Analyst covering Latin America, joins to cover the history of networks in the reg...
Sep 19, 2023•54 min•Season 5Ep. 3
We welcome Stan Hubbard, Principal Analyst at MEF, to the show. Stan recently authored a State of the Industry Report for MEF; we wanted to have him on to discuss his findings and see where the telecom industry is at with adopting new technologies. Stan explains the market drivers and why telecom service providers need to automate to stay relevant and competitive. He then outlines the path carriers can take to achieve this. Next, we discuss his report and get details on the state of automation a...
Sep 12, 2023•54 min•Season 5Ep. 2
Dennis Thankachan, Co-Founder and CEO at Lightyear, joins us on the pod. Dennis is uniquely positioned to see how enterprises are sourcing networks. This episode covers the shift to off-premises data centers, hybrid and remote work, the drive to cut network costs through changing technologies, right-sizing networks, and more. We also touch on Dennis’ skepticism about frequently mentioned WAN trends and technologies. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-p...
Sep 05, 2023•59 min•Ep. 26
Season 4 ends on a high note with Junior Research Analyst Mei Harrison’s podcast debut. As one-half of our enterprise team's two-man band, Mei is the perfect person to help us discuss results from our recently published WAN Manager Survey. We highlight the key trends in multinational corporate networks worldwide, covering MPLS vs. DIA use in the underlay, SD-WAN adoption, cloud connectivity, NaaS, and more. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast Te...
Apr 25, 2023•47 min•Season 4Ep. 25
How are submarine cables impacted by tectonic shifts beneath the seafloor? This week's guests are well-positioned to tell us. They join us from the UK’s National Oceanography Centre: Isobel Yeo, Researcher in Geology and Volcanology, and Michael Clare, Principal Researcher of Ocean BioGeoscience and Marine Environmental Adviser to the International Cable Protection Committee. Mike and Izzy are geologists specializing in the seafloor, so their research has become vital for the submarine cable com...
Apr 18, 2023•50 min•Season 4Ep. 24
Our guest today is Dario Betti, CEO of the Mobile Ecosystem Forum . It's always nice to have industry association folks on the show. I've found they can pull back from the perspective of a single vendor or operator to paint a broader picture of the challenges facing different corners of the telecom industry. This is exactly what Dario does in this interview on all things mobile. Dario first explains what the MEF does (and does not do) for its members. But, perhaps more importantly, he provides a...
Apr 11, 2023•55 min•Season 4Ep. 23
Today’s episode of TeleGeography Explains the Internet is about artificial intelligence. And for that we welcome Kannan Kothandaraman, Co-Founder and CEO at Selector AI . With a plethora of cheeky, AI-generated content out there already, we don't have to tell you that AI has been in the news a lot lately. And I know "AI" is a capacious term; this week's conversation focuses on how AI/ML will actually impact telecom networks. In fact, we've talked a lot on TeleGeography Explains the Internet abou...
Apr 04, 2023•48 min•Season 4Ep. 22
Aryaka’s Chief Product Officer Renuka Nadkarni visits the podcast. We discuss how Aryaka approaches the WAN across different services like network, WAN optimization, SD-WAN, and security. We also chat about the state of the modern WAN, the forces that have changed it, and how those changes impact how one should think about security. With an extensive background in security, Renuka has a clear and interesting take on what a secure WAN looks like. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeo...
Mar 28, 2023•42 min•Season 4Ep. 21
Wanna look at some cool voice data? The recent expansion of the i3forum's Insights tool has quite a bit of that. I've been itching to talk about it on the podcast. So today we're chatting with the i3forum, a nonprofit industry body focused on "accelerating transformation across the carrier ecosystem." In other words, this consortium of carriers routinely collaborates on solving some of the biggest challenges facing their industry. They also have an innovative way of sharing data among participan...
Mar 21, 2023•53 min•Season 4Ep. 20
Meet Aaron Chan, Founder and Managing Partner at Recurve Capital. As an investor in the “technology media and telecom” space—or “TMT” as they say in finance circles—Aaron has something of an outside perspective. In this episode, we discuss how investors view the telecom industry and how Aaron classifies publicly traded telecom companies. You'll hear Aaron's view of the long-term profitability of network operators and what he looks for in making investment decisions in the telecom space. We also ...
Mar 14, 2023•1 hr 5 min•Season 4Ep. 19
There's a good chance that you first heard about TeleGeography through one of our maps . Our own Research Analyst Lane Burdette was introduced to TeleGeography when she came across our Submarine Cable Map a few years ago. Now part of the team that creates this map, Lane is understandably stoked about this week's 2023 Submarine Cable Map launch. It seems like the perfect time to welcome Lane—along with our incredibly talented Designer and Cartographer Larry Lairson—to TeleGeography Explains the I...
Mar 09, 2023•38 min•Season 4Ep. 18
Rohan Singh knew his future was in networking and communication when he saw his first network diagram at around 12 years old. That's probably why he feels like he's been involved in networking for most of his life. Now Vice President of Client Services at Marlabs , Rohan joined us at TeleGeography Explains the Internet to talk about all that goes into the modern digital transformation. While we had a lot to say about WAN optimization and partner ecosystems, it was getting into the future of netw...
Feb 21, 2023•45 min•Season 4Ep. 17
We brought Senior Research Manager Paul Brodsky on to discuss our most recent voice report, but we couldn’t help getting into much more. We talk about the history of telecom, and how voice and internet networks compare, and how that is impacting voice traffic and revenue. The conversation also covers the cash cow that voice once was and what's happening now. Voice enthusiasts will appreciate that we get into the history of OTT and VoIP technologies and how they've disrupted the market. And we co...
Feb 07, 2023•55 min•Season 4Ep. 16
It's one thing to make predictions, but it's another to assess how those predictions turned out. One month into 2023, Mattias Fridström, Chief Evangelist at Arelion, very kindly agreed to scrutinize his 2022 forecast with us. As you'll hear, Mattias has been at Arelion (formerly Telia) for a long time. From his perspective within a tier 1 provider, he has an outstanding view of the industry. He uses that vantage point to write a forward-looking article every year, reviewing trends he expects to ...
Jan 31, 2023•47 min•Season 4Ep. 15
This week we welcome Jeremiah Ginn, Software Defined Cybersecurity Evangelist at AT&T and author of Diving into SASE. In this episode, you'll learn how to define SASE based on your audience and identify the key elements that belong in the SASE framework. We then dig into the fast-paced update cycle for security software. Why is it necessary for the modern network? And what are the implications for upskilling and managed security services? Next, Jeremiah and Greg focus on zero trust and why e...
Jan 24, 2023•49 min•Season 4Ep. 14
This week's guest on TeleGeography Explains the Internet has a deep history in networking. Khalid Raza was involved in some of the earliest large-scale MPLS deployments. Then, after seeing the limitations of MPLS, he co-founded Viptela–diving head-first into the SD-WAN revolution. Khalid is now the Founder and CEO of Graphiant, a Silicon Valley-based startup. In this interview, he describes how enterprise networks have changed and why we need an approach beyond MPLS and SD-WAN. Podcast HQ: https...
Jan 17, 2023•43 min•Season 4Ep. 13
Host and Senior Manager of Enterprise Research Greg Bryan broke out the data for this bonus New Year's episode. Fans of our annual WAN Manager Survey will enjoy seeing our 2022 results. We've also got intel on NaaS, SASE, MPLS, and all the other acronyms that mattered to the WAN world in 2022. We're looking forward to exploring the global business of connectivity with you in the year ahead. Cheers to that. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast Tel...
Jan 01, 2023•14 min•Season 4Ep. 12
We're looking back at all things telecom in 2022. And we're doing it the best way we know how: rounding up our analysts and inviting them to discuss significant findings in their research areas. Part two takes us on a journey through the last 12 months of submarine cable news, SD-WAN, security, and major world events that intersected with telecom infrastructure. We were thrilled to have TeleGeography's Alan Mauldin, Brianna Boudreau, and Tim Stronge join us. Not only did they bring data on the y...
Dec 27, 2022•46 min•Season 4Ep. 11
Greg Bryan kicks off the first of a two-part telecom year in review, welcoming experts Patrick Christian, Rob Schult, and Jon Hjembo to highlight the major trends they saw in their principal research areas. Part one takes us through the year in wholesale internet, cloud services, transport pricing, data centers, and more. We talk inflation, we talk energy, we talk geography. And we're only just getting started. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcas...
Dec 20, 2022•58 min•Season 4Ep. 10
James “Jim” Capuano has over 30 years of experience in the telecommunications industry and is the CEO of Horizon, a more than 125-year-old service provider. We recently asked Jim to share some of his knowledge on the pod. In this episode, we view middle-mile problems and solutions from a provider perspective and discuss how the middle mile is developing in the current WAN environment. Then we turn our focus to the digital divide. Why do we need to bridge it—and how? Podcast HQ: https://www2.tele...
Dec 13, 2022•1 hr 3 min•Season 4Ep. 9
MEF CTO Pascal Menezes is back on the pod to discuss what MEF has been up to. Our first topic: Lifecycle Service Orchestration. What is it, how has it progressed, and what does it do for the carrier community? We also get into enterprise automation, operational APIs, new SASE and ZT standards, and more. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast TeleGeography Blog: https://blog.telegeography.com/ Our Research: https://www2.telegeography.com/en/our-rese...
Dec 06, 2022•49 min•Season 4Ep. 8
This week, with the help of Jeremy Villalobos, COO of Orchest (formerly known as GoldConnect) we tackle automation from a carrier perspective. What is it? How is it being used in telecom? And why is it crucial that carriers move toward automation? Of course, we had to tie in the impact on the enterprise WAN, as well as the future of automation—including practical uses for blockchain telecom. Podcast HQ: https://www2.telegeography.com/telegeography-explains-the-internet-podcast TeleGeography Blog...
Nov 29, 2022•51 min•Season 4Ep. 7
This week, we're talking about NaaS. We've covered NaaS in various contexts on this show, but this episode focuses on fabric providers and where they're headed. For that, we're so glad to have on our outspoken and knowledgeable friend Michael Wynston, Director of Network Security Architecture & Automation at Fiserv. Michael has now been on TeleGeography's podcast not once, not twice, but three times—and it's safe to say that he really knows his stuff. What are fabric providers doing, and how...
Nov 22, 2022•53 min•Season 4Ep. 6
If you want to review the state of the corporate WAN—in light of digital transformation, the cloud, SD-WAN adoption, and MPLS utilization—there's no one better to talk to than Phil Gervasi, Director of Technical Evangelism at Kentik. Lucky for us, he was this week's guest on TeleGeography Explains the Internet. We covered the state of lift-and-shift into the cloud, the perseverance of MPLS, real use cases of SD-WAN, and, of course, lots on how network changes have impacted the visualization of n...
Nov 15, 2022•46 min•Season 4Ep. 5
Let's talk satellites! We have the perfect person to help us out. We're thrilled to welcome Dr. Peter Wood, TeleGeography analyst and resident satellite guy, to the pod. We discuss how, while wires still reign supreme, satellite is having a resurgence. And maybe the potential to disrupt the wireline market? Listen to our conversation to find out. It was also an excellent opportunity to get Alan Mauldin on the line to discuss his latest blog post, which is all too relevant to our satellite chat. ...
Oct 18, 2022•52 min•Season 4Ep. 4
