The following program is produced by the Techtalk Radio Network. The Water Park is doing some different things. They get all the full-time staff to basically work the water park. Some people are lifeguards, some people are trash pickup, some people are guest services, and I was slinging hot dogs in French fries all week. How was it? Did you like it? It's actually not too bad. It's a very small little menu.
It's the only place in the park that was open that was selling alcohol so that light will come in there. It's literally five things to serve. The downside is you're on your feet all day and some people are going to laugh at me for that. I'm not used to being on my feet all day. I'm a desk jockey. Being on my feet all day, it was a little bit of a challenge. It was fun, it was a change of pace, and I enjoyed it. Now, that week is done.
Now we're into the period between, well, now and Labor Day because Labor Day we close for the season. We've got a couple of weeks left, but we're not open during the week. We're only open on weekends. It's actually really quiet around there during the week now. It's interesting. Would you recommend if a family was coming up to Denver to do a little vacation? They check it out because it's like the world's, or the nation's largest, or one of them, right? It's America's largest water park.
We can hear your voice, right? Remember, I am the voice of water world. Yeah. Thanks for coming to Water World, America's largest water park. You do that so well. I highly recommend it. It's fun. It's an interesting place. It is definitely an icon of Colorado. And yeah, I would mention if you are coming up to Denver during the summer months, yeah, definitely go check it out. All right, that's good.
Now, we're also seeing a look at, and as Sean said, it's a first look at your new setup after you have that dealt with all this flooding and all the ripping out of that whole thing. So if you're just listening to the radio, you're obviously not going to be able to picture this, but Sean and Andy are looking at the Zoom, which we'll put up on the website. But I used to be up against this wall over here.
And so the TV was, you never would see the TV, because it was always to my right against that wall. But then my basement flooded. It was early June. It was like the day after me, Senator went to Japan, and we talked about that. And, you know, I had an extended absence from Tech Talk because I just, I had no more studio. So it finally got redone. We've got new carpet. We put everything back down here. I took the opportunity to redesign, reimagine my battle station, per se.
And instead of it just being mine, I've also set up, it's a two person desk, and I'll have to send Sean the picture a little bit later. Actually, I'll throw it into chat later. But anyway, it's a dual desk, and there's two battle stations. So whenever Eric wants to use the computer, he'll use the one that I'm on right now, because it's the desktop. And if I want to game, I'll just bring my laptop and plug it in over here at the docking station.
And I bought a new 24 or 27 inch, yes, 27 inch curved gaming monitor from Costco. So I can play on that one. So he can play on this. I can play on that. Or if we so choose, we also have his Xbox connected to that other monitor. I've got Xbox Game Pass on this PC. Right. And we've got the Xbox on the main TV. So we can have up to like three people, three of his friends playing Xbox all on their own computer monitor or TV. So this is like the coolest house in the neighborhood for kids.
That is pretty cool. You did a good job setting it, resetting it up. And it was kind of cool because you had an open slate, right? It was just, yeah, it was all from scratch, basically. I mean, we're not reusing hardly anything. Now, the only downside is, is the monitor's, the monitor mount that I have, my triple monitor set up on this desk is not as deep as the old one. So the monitors are really, really close.
And it actually kind of concerns me, because aircasts to sit so close to be able to play. So it's like, it's like you would be sitting and looking at like a 60 inch TV from a foot away. Like it's just not good. So I have to do that to read the text. I'm old. Yeah. Well, we don't want air to be like that when he's like nine. No. So I bought a keyboard train. I just, I got to install it on here. This keyboard train should then allow him to be able to sit back a little bit and do this.
And I was, I'll tell Sean, the hardest part, Sean was trying to figure out where to put my microphone because no matter where I put it, it would bump into a monitor. So what I'm actually doing is I have it behind the monitor and I'm actually going underneath the monitor and back up with the mount to be able to come and, you know, be able to talk to you guys. The other thing I did, I made sure of is when I redesigned this, I didn't want to see a single cable.
And so I took my time and I did it very, very carefully and I made the wires look amazing, which has since now been destroyed because Eric's down here playing with his friends and there's cables everywhere. But I really tried to make it really, really good with cable management and it looks really sweet. And I can say I'll send a picture here. I'll have to find it. But I'll put a picture in chat and let you, let you guys see. You use the runners.
I've seen, you know, like if you go into, you know, say Walmart or Best Buy or whatever and you buy a mount, they have these devices that could go on the wall. You could paint them and they're very, I mean, they're very, they looked thin and they can do hiding for the cables. Yeah. I did some of that. I also used a little bit of the umbilical, the umbilical cord there. Sean, look at the chat there. Yeah. I put a picture of our battle stations in it. But I did a little bit of umbilical.
I did a little bit of the white stuff to kind of like the raceway, um, a lot, a lot of zip ties. But yeah, it's, uh, it ends up, it ended up working out pretty well in the end. One of the things that I've seen a lot of people doing now, Sean has got the maximum use of, uh, lighting and color in his, uh, his cast. If you, if you jump onto our website, you can actually watch the video from this. You can see what we're talking about. And he has done something super amazing.
All of a sudden there is a camera floating above him from behind. You've got to tell us how you did this. So I've always wanted a camera angle from behind me just to show like a wide shot of what up when my setup is. It's kind of messy right now. So deal with that. Um, but so I have my old iPhone 7 plus plugged into power connected to my Wi-Fi running NDI HX cam, right, there's an application that's free.
You can download from the app store, which pushes an NDI stream to my net, my home network to which I can you, can you explain NDI? I don't, I'm not familiar with that. So NDI stands for network defined interface. So NDI is made by a company called new tech, which I think is owned by Visartina, which is a broadcast company. Yeah. It's a high bandwidth streaming platform. Like it says, it's a streaming protocol. So much like SRT, RTMP, those things.
The benefit is is that it, you can put it on hardware. You can put it on software and pull this video in across your network. So all I'm running is that application on my phone. And I'm using OBS to pull that stream into OBS, then using the virtual camera from OBS to push it to zoom. Oh, wow. So NDI, NDI is a, I'm going to change it back to the camera, but NDI is a, it was very limited in terms of use in the broadcasting industry because of its nature across networks, right?
You have to have it, almost have to have a dedicated network, just for NDI, just because of its bandwidth requirements, and its kind of interoperability with other voice or video over IP systems. So it didn't get picked up very well. And then during COVID, when everybody kind of had to go to something, to stream, churches, houses of, you know, houses of worship churches, schools, all this stuff, NDI kind of picked up a bunch of steam. And it's been developed a lot on the back end.
Now they have some lower bandwidth capabilities and some other things like that, but we use it quite a bit at work. I use it quite a bit at work to do. If you watch any of our Notre Dame Rugby Club streams, we're using four NDI cameras, remote, outdoor rated, their mounted outdoor at rugby, all over campus network. So they're just plugged into a campus switch, POE to the cameras.
Wow. We pull them back, we pull them back in at the TriCaster, which is a video switcher, that is made by Newtech, so NDI native, and brings it in and you can switch the cameras, you can add graphics, you can do all of that. When you're talking about a high bandwidth though, I mean, what are we talking about? We're talking about 100 megabit, a gigabit. Right. So there are a couple of different flavors, right? So NDI is compressed. So it's compressed video, right?
So it uses full, they call full NDI, they use the codec called speedHQ, that's the codec they use. It's about, it depends on what flavor of video using, 1080p, 720p, etc. So for a 1080p stream at full NDI, it's about 120 meg per camera. Hmm. Okay. If you have, if you have, the network stream. Right. So the benefit of NDI is if you have a network that supports it, you can do multicast, which means one to many. Right.
If you don't, you have to do unicast, which means one to one, meaning if Justin pulls my camera down and Andy pulls my camera down, it's sending two full bandwidth streams. Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Meaning that would be 240 meg or whatever. Well, that's why you bring in that switcher, the, and stuff. Right. So there's the benefit to doing it either way. Now they've identified that as a kind of a bottleneck and they created NDIHX, NDIHX2, NDIHX3, and it's using HG64 encoding, HVC encoding.
So now you're getting down to where you can put the cameras down to 456 meg per camera at the same quality. Did you have to buy the software for your smartphone to be able to run it on there? It's free. Is that like the suite of products from NDIHX when it comes to the software to do it? I do believe that is the case, isn't it?
So you could, you, everything that I've done to make this camera, I'll go back to it, right, this camera, this camera, everything I've done to make this camera get it on zoom, it's free. Wow. The application, the NDI tool software from my computer, the OBS is free. All of those things are free. You can just download, they're all open source. Well, oh, and you guys not open source, but open source. Okay, but then how does NDI make money if they're, if they're, yeah, I don't understand.
You have to, you have to, there are licensed products for NDI, right? There are, there are things that new tech cells that can't lobby licensed. And if a vendor, Panasonic, Sony, Canon, Birddog, PTZ Optics, whoever wants to put NDI on their camera, they pay NDI AF. Right. It's just like H264, right? Every H264 device. It's just a codec, yeah. They pay H264. That is a codec that you pay for. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. It's pretty amazing.
So, yeah, just looking at it now, like Sean, how you have set up, like I can imagine, we talked about houses of worship. And you know, you used to be, okay, they would just have one camera on it and then they started getting, they started getting like pretty experimental during the COVID and saying, well, we want, you know, we still have, you know, our, our, our, our coral group here. So they wanted to be able to switch to a coral group. So suddenly they wanted to have two cameras.
And then they started to find out about trycasters and about OBS or even wirecast if they, you know, want to use the TeleStream product and pay for it. And then I'm looking at this going, this, you can have a camera behind, you know, minister or preacher or priest and show the congregation now. And I mean, it's just, there's so many, so many applications that this is allowing you to do. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's some benefits. There's some, there's some positives and some negatives, right?
This camera that I'm using behind me is just on my Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi is not ideal for this scenario. It just happens to be what happens to work. The little light. Yeah. If I had one of my actual NDi cameras from work, I would obviously hardwire it to my switch, put it on my network that way. And the latency would be sub one, sub one second. It'd be very, very, very low latency. Hmm. It is pretty neat. I like it. I like the idea too.
It gives you that the idea why you never, ever want to get rid of your smartphones. You know, you go to a place and they say, hey, you know, we'll trade it in and they'll give you what, 15, 20 bucks on that? Justin, what do you think? Well, it's funny that you mentioned that you're all correct. I mean, that is, that is the, keep your old cell phones because you never know what you want to do with them.
However, there's something interesting that just happened that I want to talk about here in a second about what, what, what these use cell phones. But go ahead and finish your thought. It just, it just doesn't really think of something. It just, because then you have the opportunity. And I think Sean, you're using an iPhone 7 people have thought, okay, well, you know, it's not on iPhone 12. I'm not going to be able to use it. We can't use it for phone calls.
You could still use those smartphones connected to Wi-Fi. Hmm. Yeah. And make, turn them into cameras or whatever. Yeah. So again, you know, this could be something that would be good. Speaking of the, the phones, I just, I was reading about this earlier today. You know, the new Pixel 9 series came out. Yes. And I actually, I, I, I, I will tell you right now, I am going to be the proud new owner of the new Pixel 9 Pro Fold. Oh, you're going to go fold.
Wow. Yep. So that's coming, that's coming on its way here soon. But the point of this little story I was going to mention is I've been hearing about how Best Buy will give you a thousand dollars for like an old like iPhone 12 or even an iPhone 14. They will give you $999 towards a trade in or portrait in towards a Pixel 9. Now, get this is not Best Buy. That's foot in this bill. This is Google. Right. They're like, Hey, doesn't matter.
Pay everybody a thousand dollars to trade in their phone if they get a Pixel. People have been exploiting this. They're going to these like cell phone stores that are selling old, you know, used cell phones. They're buying old like iPhone 12s for like 200 bucks, right? Turning around selling them to Best Buy for a thousand and gaining $800 towards a new Pixel 9. I mean, that's pretty smart if you ask me. Yeah. And the Pixel 9 has been getting some reviews.
Yeah. You know, some people I know in the press world have been able to get their hands on one. And it's just a lot harder time than some of those that are influencers than those in the actual media. I guess I'm not that good of an influencer. I had to pay for mine. Thanks Andy. What made you decide though that it was finally time to move up? Because you didn't do the Pixel 8. Did you? No, I usually... No, no, no, no, no, no. I do. I do have a Pixel 8 Pro.
My phone is... I usually skip a generation. That's what I... That's what I thought. I've usually been on the odds. But now I went last year. I was like, oh, I'm going to get the Pixel 8 Pro. But I saw the Pixel 9 Pro fold and I'm like, one of the deciding factors to me honestly was my eyesight. My eyesight is getting a little worse as I get a little bit older. And I have to have readers everywhere. And I thought, you know, this...
And they talked about how having that foldable screen, the open screen will allow you to be able to zoom in on text a lot easier. And I thought, you know, that looks pretty cool. And I've always been a little bit risk adverse towards foldable phones because of that center gap. Right. But they said that they've actually got a new technology now where it kind of reduces that prominence of that center foldable gap. So I don't know. I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to trade in my Pixel or...
I'm going to pick the Pixel 8 Pro. Right. And then I told the wife, I said, look, I'm just going to... I'll come up with the money, somehow, a little bit going. But yeah, I should be getting my Pixel 9 Pro fold. I think it's like September 14th through the 18th somewhere in that range. So I'm actually really interested to see that. But on top of that, because I bought it through the Google Store, I get a $350 Google credit towards buying things.
And I was already about to spend $300 to buy the new Google Streamer, the new Google Streaming 4K devices. Like, they're replacing the Google TV, the Google Chromecasts and stuff. Now it's like a little bit of a set top box. It's still pretty small, but it's more of a set top box, faster processor, more memory, more storage, and they're each like $100 before tax. So I was like, I was going to buy three of those already.
So now that I get the $350 store credit by buying this, that knocks off an essence, $350 bucks off my phone bill. There you go. So it ended up coming out of pocket. I want to say about a thousand dollars. Do you think that when we first saw the flips and the folds come out from Samsung, it was kind of like, people were kind of on the fence. We looked at the fold from Samsung and we were like, it was okay, but we saw that. We saw that. We saw that crease that just kind of bothered us a little.
But it looks like it's gotten better. They're saying that some people are really saying it's time with the marketing that Samsung's been doing, that they're going to be ditching their iPhones for the Galaxy Z Flip 6. Do you think maybe that we're going to start seeing that? The flips and the folds are going to get a lot more love? I think so. I think with this new technology, especially with the new technology Google put behind this particular screen.
I think people are going to be more willing to try a larger screen like that on a foldable or flippable device. So they get that extra real estate without having to give up all that extra pocket space. Now speaking of pocket space, I had to find a case for this thing. Oh, yeah. And I looked around a little bit on Amazon. They're already released a bunch of cases. There was one case that I really wanted. It looked amazing.
It was made of metal, full on coverage, front, back, left, right, up, down, whatever. It looked like an autobox. However, when you close it and you have that hold in your hand, it is about two and a half inches thick. Like, that is the size of like a battery pack. And I'm not going to be putting that in my pocket with my phone. Like, I love autobox for their ability to protect everything. But this was just a little overkill because it was literally made of aluminum.
And I just, I don't think I could do that. So I ended up, I actually haven't bought it yet. I'm going to get just a regular old case, but it is made for the fold. And it does go with the grain of the foldable device. And it's got a hinge on it. But it will protect the cameras. It'll protect the edges. It's got an air gap around the corners. So that way if you do drop and it hits the corner, it's going to hit that air gap first. So it'll, you know, somewhat protect it.
But on top of that, I went ahead and I did buy the device protection. They offered an incentive. You could either do it for $15 a month or $279 for two straight years. So if you do the math, 15 times 24, you're looking at almost $400 right there. So I just bit the bullet and went to $279 for the two years of protection out the door. That's not bad. Hopefully it will catch on and will be, you know, a good product. Like I said, it's had great reviews so far.
Well, now that Justin Lemmy of Tech Talk Radio is going to have one. Everybody's going to want one. I don't know, you know, and I was thinking about the flip because I like the ads for the flip, but I just, I don't know if I could get used to it. Sean, do you think you could use that technology? I don't know. I like to think that I would hate it. But one of my cousins has one of the Samsung folds and he's like, hey, watch this video, flip. I'm like, crap, it's a huge screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It looked really good. And I was like, all right, I could probably, I just don't know if I like, my phone is big. I have the 13 plus the iPhone 13 plus. It's big. And my mom has the iPhone 13 max. And that's even bigger. Right. And the max is about the same size as Justin's going to get plus it flips out. The max, the iPhone 15 pro max, no, yeah, 15 pro max, the screen size is the same as the nine pixel really pro fold screen when it's folded.
Okay. So you're getting the size of a 15 pro max when it's folded and then when you unfold it, you're getting just that much more real estate. I mean, I see where it's, where it's beneficial, right? It's just I don't foresee myself getting one because I have a two and a half year old. Yeah. Six month old. And I can just see them go like this.
Dude, dude, this is exactly what the guy told me when I, when I bought my pixel seven, I want to say pixel seven, I had a picture of Eric as a baby as my background on my pixel six. And they were like, well, that's a cute, or first off, he was like, do you want the device protection? And I'm like, no, I'm good. He sees the picture of the kid and he goes, that's a cute kid. How old is he? I'm like, yeah, two. He goes, he looks at me, where in the face?
He goes, are you sure you don't want the device protection? And I'm like, I just imagined like a flashback of him, like dropping my phone in the toilet or something. And I'm like, you know what? I should probably do that. Yeah. That's probably a good idea. Yeah. That's always good. But you have kids.
But I also heard a rumor and I haven't seen any pictures of it or anything yet, but I heard a rumor that the pixel nine pro fold interior screen will replicate and then you're going to get an e-ink display. So you can use it like a Kindle. Oh, that'd be kind of interesting. That'd be cool. I'm just wondering, has a camera system because I'm best in the world right now. Top of the line, best in the world. Better than the Samsung.
Yep. Right now it is rated as the best camera in the world for a phone. Wow. And it goes back and forth. It always goes back and forth. It's like Nvidia, AMD, you know, right now it's the pixel next year. It'll be the Samsung. It'll go forward. The camera wars on phones, right, can only go so far until we're going to have a 35 millimeter sensor on a camera on our phone. Yeah. The sensor is going to look so big until the phones get bigger.
So as the phones get bigger, Apple is going to make some sort of iPhone device. I mean, I don't know. I think it's going to be Google. Yeah. It's going to be better. One of them is going to make a, I mean, red made their, red, red, epic, red. I don't know what that is. It's a camera company. Yeah, they're actually, they got up by nightcon not long ago. They made a large sensor phone. There is a red phone. Google it. It's got a, wow. I don't, it's over a one inch sensor.
You mean like the red phone, like the president red phone? Nope. No, not the president. But like it could shoot raw. It did all this crazy stuff. And I have a guy that works for us and it's not one of that. Well, the only person I've ever met, they had one and I don't understand how it just didn't seem to be functional, but he used it on films to shoot and stuff.
So why I just Googled, I just Googled red phone and the first thing comes up was the Moscow Washington hotline and a bunch of pictures of old analog red phones. Oh boy, you can tell everybody you have a red phone. Are the red hydrogen one? That's the one you're talking about. Yeah, the red hydrant. So the, the camera wars are only going to get so good.
As long as the math continues to get good and the compression continues to get good, because you're only going to be able to cram so many pixels, so many small pixels into small sensors. So until until the sensors get bigger and the lenses get bigger that you can only, it's, there's some theory or law physics law that exists to prove that that can't go any further than things get bigger. Think about it. So eventually see a Nikon or a Canon smartphone?
No, you don't think I think I think Google or Samsung or Apple, one of those three or even one plus possibly, right? They may license and do a partnership with Canon or Sony or Nikon. Yeah, yeah, could be. Nikon and red, because now that Nikon owns red, our rumor to be working on a new phone. There you go. You would think it could happen. All right, we're going to take, we're going to take a quick break. Come back. You mentioned Chromecast. What happens to those that are using it?
We'll talk about that when we come back. You can find us on the web at techtalkradio.com. We'll be right back. And now, back to tech talk radio. In the first part of the show, we were talking about Chromecast, Justin, you were talking about how you want to get the Google TV streamer, which was been announced. It's going to be available September 26th. And some people have thought, well, I wanted to get a Chromecast. I had a Google TV once, a box, which was so cool. And I loved it.
But then they kind of shifted to the actual Chromecast device. And they kind of left it out. So we stopped using it. What is Google TV streamer? What is that good for? Well, the Google TV streamer, it's an over the top box. I mean, it is, it is, it is taking the place of your smart TV. If you have a smart TV. If you don't, it makes your TV smart. It is the one stop shop for all your streaming apps.
So you can put your Netflix, your Disney Plus, your Paramount, your HBO Max, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Flex. Yeah. All that stuff, right? You can also put YouTube and YouTube TV and all that stuff, right? Everything. It's a one stop shop. But, you know, the original Chromecast was simply just a simple streaming from your phone to your TV. That was the original Chromecast. Then they came out with Google TV.
And so they kind of pivoted the Chromecast towards the Google TV, which is where you get all the smart features, like I just mentioned. But now they're upgrading that with more storage, more RAM, faster processor, and it's more of a, it's not just something that hides behind your TV anymore plugged into an HDMI. Obviously, it's still plugged into HDMI, but now it's more of a set top box. And it's still really honestly the size of, I don't know, a pack of tissue, like a pocket pack of tissues.
You know, it's really not that big. But it's also 4K, the newest Chromecast as well. It do have 4K as model. We have the 4K models, but they're just, they're starting to get clunky. They're starting to turn off randomly. And I think they're just getting old. And there's no cooling involved. They're really packaged tightly into a thing, so they get really hot. So I think this new form factor is going to help a little bit with the cooling.
And obviously the faster processor, more storage, I think it's going to be a better deal. You're going to pay a little bit more. You're going to pay $100 for it. You can get 49, I think is what 49 is for the 4K model of the Chromecast Google TV. 29 is for the standard like 1080p Google TV. So it depends on what you have. If you only have a 1080p TV, you don't need the Google TV streamer. You don't need the Chromecast 4K. Just get yourself the $29 Google TV.
What's the difference between Roku and Chromecast? Because people get in the store and they look and they say, you've got Apple TV, Roku, and then you've got Chromecast. And then you've got, oh, if you're in Walmart, they've got their on or ONN or whatever, they call it. But what's the difference between Ford, Chevy and Mazda? I mean, it's the same thing. You're getting the same product and the same difference. User experience.
Yeah. User experience, user interface, slightly different form factor, but basically they all do the same job. So one thing I did see that kind of made me go, that's interesting. I like Roku's layout. I've got Roku, I've got Apple. You know, I've got pretty much all of them. I like the way I've got Sling and I like that one too.
But I like the layout of it because you really get a chance to see some, you know, you want to see comedy, you want to see this, and you can connect to, you know, some of the different services that are out there. But I heard that the Google TV streamer will have access to almost 800 channels of content is that because it's Google that there's more content that will be available?
They do have the built-in Google free live TV that has a bunch of, you know, ad supported channels kind of like Fubo does or whatever. But yeah, so they have their own app that has that. But I think what they're kind of leaning towards is the integration of YouTube TV plus the Google free TV stuff plus any of those apps that also support television. I just don't see 800 channels on Google alone. Yeah. That's what I could be wrong. Yeah. It was one of the things I was reading about it.
But again, this will be available September 26th. If you want to get the, you know, maybe you've got a kid's room or a guest room and you want to just get a Chromecast device. It's going to be your last time to get those until they sell out from what I understand. They're not making anymore. They're just, they're going to be done with it. And technically, they're not even called Chromecast anymore. They're called Google TV. Okay. So real quick note on this whole streaming thing, right?
So you just mentioned Fubo and it reminded me of an article I just read. So Fubo, sued, discovery, Fox, all those. Remember how all those were going to join in to do a joint venture for streaming? Yeah. Fubo, sued and put a stop to it. They excited antitrust. So there is a currently an injunction to stop the launch of the Walt Disney Co. De Fox Corp and Warner Brothers discovery venue sports venture. So currently that is unhauled.
So we talked about it on the show before because we all know everybody's trying to cram everything back into one streaming platform like cable. But as of right now, this was in August 16th. So not that long ago. Fubo put some lawsuits. This is this is, you know, antitrust, basically. It means it's not good for the public. It's not good. It's deceitful. Those types of things.
Not only that, but you know, not only what you're mentioning, but now there's also a lawsuit going out there or not a lawsuit. And that says, well, actually maybe there's a lawsuit. Yeah. They're trying to break up Google. Like they're coming after Google itself now just saying, hey, you guys are in, you know, it's antitrust. You're monopoly. You monopolize the search engine market.
The FTC now and the government are going after Google saying, yeah, guys, the party was been great and all, but it's time for you to break it up. But why? I mean, if they break it because Google is a monopoly, dude, they own everything. Well, there's like Disney. You got Facebook that controls stuff. I mean, everybody could, everybody is just trying to maximize their bottom line, right? But I guess you could look at it that way.
But when you consider Google's got the TV market, they got the smartphone market, they got the search engine market, they got your email market. I mean, they touch every aspect of our lives. Mm-hmm. Meta does not. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a cute word. Are you now? But go ahead. Oh, I was going to say also on the streaming thing. I don't know if you guys have heard this story about the guy whose wife died of inflectic shock at one of the Disney resorts.
Yeah. No. And he was suing for untimely death, wrongful death, right? And Disney came out and said, yeah, but you signed up for Disney Plus trial meeting use forced arbitration. So good luck. Yeah. Well, they wait. Wait, wait. What is it? I know they did. Yeah. So they're claiming that because this guy signed up for a Disney Plus trial. Years prior. Years prior. Right. In the terms and, you know, the terms and conditions.
Oh, my God. It says that you forego lawsuits and go straight to arbitration for anything. For anything. It does say Disney Plus. It just says for anything against Disney. So now he goes to Disney, whatever, how many years later, Disney World, his wife has a allergic reaction in one of their restaurants and dies. So it's just terrible circumstances after after they confirm with the waiter multiple times that it did not have any peanuts or milk in it. And they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally fine.
Then she ends up dying because it did have peanuts and so he goes and says, I'm going to see you guys for wrongful death. Yeah, yeah, they come back and say, yeah, not so fast. Well, we're not going to court. It has to go straight to arbitration. No, now they've actually as of today, now they now they backtracked as a public pressure. Yeah, serious Disney home. My Lord, that's off. Yeah. It's an awful story about tech companies sometimes, maybe well, losing that humanity.
Not only that, but now that this has gained that attention and gained that huge social media viral following, there are lawyers left and right signing up to defend this guy to go up against the army of lawyers that Disney's going to have. Wow, but he can't see huge case. He can't proceed with this. This is going to be very interesting. Now, you were talking to us earlier before, you know, our pre show about something that you've started doing again that we were trying to figure out what it is.
What is it that Justin is doing again? Well, I will show you. I said clash, I said clash of clans because Justin and I played way too much clutch clans and spent way too much money on it when I knew him in CD. And I said the drones. Yeah, it's not going to be either of that. All right, but here you go. Oh, there he goes. Look at that. I went all out. I went all out. Back into DJing. That's why I bought the head that got the techniques headphones out.
So what I'm showing here on camera is I bought myself a percolise DJ deck. It's a professional deck that has, you know, two decks left and right. It's got all the different buttons that can do all the different hot cues, fading, mixing, scratching, all the stuff that you would particularly see on a DJ deck. This thing was only $299. It's not bad. Now I got out of DJing when I left the Navy 20 years or not 20 years ago, about 15 years ago.
And I never got back into it because I knew it was so cost prohibitive. These professional DJs, you see, use these decks that like a pioneer and they're like they go for like $2,500 each. So now you're looking at $5,000 right there for two decks. This thing, it was a great buy. It was beginner's deck. It connects USB to my laptop. I use virtual DJ. Great. Great program. Which is open source. It's free. Not actually open source. It is a free product.
However, if you want to use the deck involved with it, you do have to pay for the license. So I paid the $99 for the license. Then for the content, all the music, I subscribe to title, which is like Spotify. The title integrates with virtual DJ and it provides lossless quality music. So you're getting better quality than you would with Spotify. Now, Andy, this is the point of where you ask, why in the heck would you get back into DJ?
Well, we talked about this on a previous show, but I like the idea. I think it's great. Yeah. Well, I'm getting back in because I have a couple of friends that want me to DJ their wedding. And when I looked into how much a wedding DJ can make, I was like, oh, my lord. I think I can make this work. A typical wedding DJ will make about about $3,000. Yeah. And so I took out a loan from the bank of Mesa with an interest tree loan. And I bought myself the deck. I got myself the license.
I got myself a couple of other things. They paid me half up front and I went ahead and paid her back. And then I'll make the other half when I DJ, but what's funny is I just finally got to sit down with them and talk about what they wanted for their wedding. And they're like, oh, this isn't going to be a traditional wedding. And these are our playlists. This is what we want. They want things like green day and slayer. Oh, boy, that's going to be fun. How do you expect me to mix that?
And they're like, oh, we don't. You just fade in between. I'm like, I didn't even need to buy this stuff then. Talk over the fades. That's what you do. That's all I'm going to do. I think we do in radio. I'm just going to talk over the fades. And this device, this device into it, this device from Hercules. Why does it? I've always wondered because I've seen DJ spin. Now I come from the old days of playing the techniques 1200s, right?
Yeah. And you know, there were records on them and you had your pitch control and you would do that and you mix your slide left, right? Whatever. But these have like the little like the size of a CD on it. What is that for? That is your control. That is your controller right there. So this integrates with the digital part of the thing. So if I spin this around, it's going to act like I'm turning back the record or the CD or whatever. So if I were to go back and forth, it's going to go.
And it will do that with the title service without delay. Absolutely. It splits the tracks. And not only that, I can go down here and these four buttons, I can go vocals only, instrumentals, bass or what or just drums like kick drums. And I can easily because all of these tracks now, this software can actually segregate the different portions of the track. So I can go only vocals or only bass. So it allows me to help me fade in and out with a touch of a button.
It is amazing what things have come to. I used to mess around with Cerrado. Cerrado is kind of like the go to DJ platform. Harculease and title and virtual DJ have done wonders for the DJ community over the past few years. Great. Oh great. You got to get some pictures from it. Is it coming up quicker? Or maybe September, early September, yeah. You got to get some pictures from it. We got to take another break. We have a list of your comments.
So we definitely want to talk about some of these list of your questions. And one of them involved somebody who got ripped off with Bitcoin and Bitcoin spin in the news. So we'll talk about that when we come back. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm Sean DeWeard and I'm Justin Lemmy. Send us your Bitcoin at No, just joking. Just find us on the web techtalkradio.com. Now back to tech talk radio. So in the last segment, we talked about getting back into things just with this DJing stuff.
I have talked about this before getting back into more of an analog video photo world. So you guys know that I have my my polar and camera that I take pictures with, but I finally just decided, you know what? I didn't want to set up a whole bunch of digital camera stuff on my trip up to the U.P. This last time. I just, I still took it obviously, but I packed in my Minota X570, my 35 millimeter fricking. That's an old guy.
Wow. And I put on a 28 millimeter 1 2.8 lens and said, I'm just going to shoot a role film one up there. So I dug around and I found a, I don't even know how old it was, a very old, probably 20 plus years old role of codec 400 gold. So for those of you who don't shoot analog, 400 film means that's the app. That's the ISO or the ASA as it was called back in the day of the film. All right. So I have to shoot around that.
So it, I really, the higher the number, the brighter the higher the higher the, the higher the number, the more sensitive the film is to light. So meaning if it's 81600, I don't think it goes much higher than that in film. It just requires less light to explore, yeah, less light to expose properly. So I took that up to the UP and I had no idea what I was going to get because the film was old, old film can do weird things, they can look funny, it cannot expose properly.
So I shot the film and then I sent it off to Indie Film Labs, which is a website IndieFilm Labs.com. $11 a role to just develop the film, which is a little pricey, but you know, back in the day, you were still paying seven or eight bucks or double four by sixes. And I'm very happy with the result. I just got them back yesterday. So not that, not that long ago and I just scanned them in before the show. We'll share a couple of those on our blog.
Yeah. So I'm just going to put up my screen right now so you can kind of see if you're on zoom. Oh, look at that. You can kind of see this is my son Max. This is my niece Caroline. This is Max and Caitlin. So these are all films. You can see some of the imperfections in here. You can see some of the weird film, the film grains and stuff. But I'm just so thrilled with how the look and the feel of how these turned out.
So I just encourage you, if you're ever been into film or you shot film, just maybe pick it back up, just take the camera back out. It's very nostalgic. It's a different feel. I mean, it feels that it does. It's more homely, you know. With all of this technology and AI advancement and AI art and AI everything, right? I've got to just get back to being a human and creating art myself. Yeah. Yeah. I think you got to just get that and now I'm going to get these printed. I'm going to take it.
Where do you buy film though? Can you buy film from that indie film? You can still, but you can buy film from any any film labs. There are more than a dozen niche film markets on the web that you can buy from. And there are people that actually buy and sell and trade film. So you can say, hey, I've got this 30 year old role of 400 gold and somebody might trade you. You know, you can buy and trade and sell film. Reddit is a great place for that. There's an analog film community on Reddit.
That's really great. Okay. That you can buy and sell camera parts. There's a pretty good. There's a couple of users who 3D print replacement parts that aren't available anymore for older cameras. Nice. So there's a really good analog community that's out there and it's fun. You know, it's how I got my start and film back in the late 90s. So I kind of wonder in my grand my grandparent shot film and my mom shot film and so I was around filming my whole life.
But I kind of wonder though, you know, places like the country fair, white elephant or thrift stores, you know, around the country though, would this create kind of a this could create kind of a love for your film cameras, which probably you could get a great film camera at a pretty good price now. Yeah, you can. But the good ones, right?
The ones that have auto focus, the ones that have motorized several lenses, the ones that have the built in split focus, which my Minota X570 does, which is if you're not familiar with split focus, it's just a diopter that's built into the camera that will actually shift the image so that when it's in focus, it lines up in the image. So it's off setter. So if you look at it split, but when it's in focus, it's not split.
So it's part of it's it's one of the coolest features of an analog camera that I've ever experienced by life. Very cool stuff. All right. Here's one of the questions that we got in, right? Justin, I know that you've been helping this guy out and on Facebook, Tim, who sent us a note on Facebook about his Bitcoin that was stolen from his wallet. And you know, the thing is that you've talked about ledgers, which is a safer way to keep it rather than having it just on on Coinbase, right?
Yeah. Yeah. You never so when you buy crypto, you buy it from an exchange like Coinbase. There's a there's a multitude of other exchanges out there. But the rule of thumb is you never want to leave your money on an exchange. And it's not necessarily for people hacking in like what happened to Tim here. It's more about if the exchange went belly up, they're going to take your funds with you. Like it's just kind of like a bank, right? I mean, a bank, a bank that is not FDIC insured.
Let's put it that way, right? You're not going to get your money back. So what happened to Tim here says, you know, hey, tech talk, I recently had a Bitcoin stolen from my wallet. I had Coinbase investigate the matter. Bitcoin is unrecoverable and is in a non Coinbase account. Coinbase told me that the transfer theft somehow originated from my cell phone. His own cell phone. Yep. I am baffled. And I don't see how that's possible since nobody has handled my phone before.
I do recall calling a phone number. I thought was a customer service line with Coinbase that turned out to be fraudulent. Is it possible that the scammers behind the fake Coinbase number were able to clone my cell phone digital signature when I called and then he goes on to say, is there anyone able to determine whether or not my cell phone may have been cloned remotely or over the phone by a scammer? I believe absolutely. This gives very likely a sim cloning attack.
And they clone they they don't clone your phone number. They in essence clone your sim, which is the computer chip that every single cell phone has. You get a new cell phone or let's say you switch from Verizon AT&T or vice versa. You get a new SIM card. And that SIM card is not only your phone number. It is an IMEI number and a bunch of other numbers that identify your phone to the network.
There's a new tech attack going out there and I don't know exactly how it works, but they're able to clone SIM cards. If there's a two factor authentication like Coinbase turned on where when you log into Coinbase it says, hey, we sent you a two factor text message, you know, type in the six digits you got in the text message.
If somebody clones your phone with the SIM card attack, they're also going to get the number, the text message with that six digit code and then they'll be able to log into your account. But I had Justin too, is it very possible to they had already cloned the device, whether they were near by it, they were able to access it. And now getting that person to call Coinbase and then go through those security procedures as they're doing it, they're taking the money out.
I mean, that's, oh, yeah, that's always a possibility as well. Very, very, very much likely. Yeah. But with crypto because it is not regulated and that's the beauty of crypto is that the government doesn't have its hands on it. But with that being said, it is still then the wild, wild west, right? And you're not going to be able to do much about it. So now if you were to put this on, like I said, a ledger, which is basically a cold storage wallet.
When I mean by cold storages, it looks like a USB stick, but when you unplug it, you put it in your safe or whatever, your Bitcoin is stored. It's actually not technically stored on that. It's stored on the blockchain. Everything is stored on the blockchain. But your secret phrase, your key, everything that unlocks your wallet is on the ledger. And nobody can do anything with that.
And in matter of fact, I can take a ledger and I can give it to a thief and be like, here, here's all my Bitcoin, take it. I still can't do anything with it because they don't have my seed phrase. They don't have my master password. The ledger itself is just an interface for you into the blockchain, but it is still a hundred times safer than leaving your money on Coinbase or another exchange.
But this is also important to remind all the listeners of whether you're dabbling in Bitcoin or anything. To remember that those little emails you get that ask for information or you get a phone call that is prompting you to do something or you got to log on to Microsoft and have your security check. All of those lead to phishing, all of those lead to you giving up something that will enable that person to get into your account. And so you've got to be really, really careful with this stuff.
I mean, you got to, in this day and age with all the scammers and all this stuff, you've got to seriously listen to this, trust no one. Seriously. Even if it sounds like no one, question everything. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Another one we got from Larry says I love listening to your show and honestly, I love tech shows in general. So hopefully they love last week's show, which was kind of a best of. He said, I've listened to Kim. I know who he's talking about. And Leo the port.
There used to be another show in Tucson as well. I'm thinking it was a tech guru. There was a, and then there was Christine, I think it glans as it did a show as well. But he says, I wonder what is the best way to find tech shows online? Yeah, it's very easy. Larry, just go to techtalkradio.com. Actually, though, seriously, there is, I mean, it's hard for you to get onto X and look for a tech show that's been around. Made of cast, they're doing some pretty good things.
I'd say take a look at made of cast. They have a, I believe a free solution. But somebody had asked me if we were on Reddit, and I thought about it, does anybody go on Reddit? I mean, do, do people have channels on Reddit? Where they promote their shows? I don't know. You can pay for ads. There you go. Sure. I mean, we can get a Reddit community, but I mean, it's right. Yeah, no, not really. We don't want that. No. All right. So techtalkradio.com, that's your best source. They're Larry.
Appreciate you listening to us. But best way is to search the web. And if you find one, let us know about it. I will tell you, Dave Gravelin is another guy. He's been on our show before. He doesn't show out of Florida. Well, check all your podcast sources. You got speaker, you got Spotify, you got Apple, things like that. Good pod. Good pod. Yeah, good pod. Just search for tech shows or technology, and they'll come up with a lot of podcasts. Good stuff. All right.
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So we want to find out what we got for our next segment. Sean, what you got? So this segment's going to include drones. Oh, there you go. Spoilers. Love the drones. DJI, we just talked about this any last week, right? They hadn't announced anything in a long time. Why is he heading you there, right? And then all of a sudden, it just was like, there was nothing. DJI announced the DJI Mini 4 Pro. It is incredible. I'm mad. And it is cheap. That's why I'm mad.
You can get the Mini 4, not the Mini 4 Pro, just the Mini 4. Try to find the price here, because I lost it. Where did it go? I didn't forget. You can buy it for, it's like $3.99. I thought it was $2.99. Is it $3.99? I thought it was $299, and I was so ticked off when I saw that, because I spent $1,000 on the Mini 3. Yeah, I'm not finding it for that price anymore, though. I'm not looking for it. But anyways, they announced it. They said it's $2.99. It was incredible.
But the key factor is, if you're not using the Intelligent Flight Battery, it weighs less than the Federal Regulated Limit for registering the drone, meaning no training, no training, no regulations against it. Sure. You kind of fly it however you want. Sure. Don't be stupid, but you don't have to go register. You know, the registers of the FAA, you can just get it and fly it.
One of the things we're going to have to look at this week, and maybe we talk about next week in the show, the government has been pretty much anti-DTI. There's been, of course, a lot of talk about that. Now they're looking at TP-Link. I saw a story that TP-Link is coming under fire because of what they're routers, and there are security devices and cameras could give up. So again, that's something we'll have to talk about in the next week's show.
If you want to find out more about this drone, Sean, what do you do that? DGA store.dji.com. Click on the Mini4 Pro. Are you going to get it? DGI Mini4K. $2.99. I really want to. I just dropped too much money on board games. So I got some time. I got a financially recovered from this. There you go. That's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio. Thank you for tuning in. We'll be back next week with more. I'm Andy Taylor. I'm Sean Deweard. And I'm Justin.
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