TechStuff's Wishlist for 2019

things tech and Happy New Year. But the last several years and I've said aside an episode at the end of the calendar year or beginning of the new year to make predictions that will follow in the months ahead, I do pretty well, and most of the time, I you know, I end up being at least partly right about a few things and entirely wrong about other things. The future is pretty hard to predict, even for someone who's really smart, So for a goof is like me,

it's nearly a coin flip situation in some cases. So this year I thought I would change it up a little bit. I thought I would give myself a break. Rather than make predictions of what I think might or might not happen over the next year, I am going to talk about what I hope to see happen. So these are based off of stuff that happens to be going on today and the outcomes that I hope to

see from those things that are going on. I don't necessarily believe that all or even most of these outcomes will happen, but I figure we can all engage in a little wishful thinking now and then, as long as we remember that it is in fact wishful and not necessarily realistic, and it gives us something to work for now.

I'll warn you some of you might find this episode to be preaching, and I understand that, and I can't really argue against it, though my intent isn't to preach, but to beseech perhaps or just kind of explain where I'm coming from. However, if you find the whole idea to be off putting, I won't blame you for skipping this episode. I understand. I would rather you spend your time doing something you enjoy doing, and it's totally fine.

There's no hard feelings on my end. So if you think it ends up sounding preachy and you don't want to listen to it, that's fine. You don't have to write me or tweet me to let me know, because you know I'm doing it anyway. So here we go. With that in mind, let's start with transparency. Ifen had one super strong theme for some of the biggest companies out there, and talking about companies like Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple,

that kind of thing. It was that there was a lack of transparency in general, and it can make a tricky situation turned into a disastrous one. So, for example, it's bad if you discover a data breach, right if you find out someone has managed to get hold of information that should have been under protection, that's bad. But that bad situation can be made much worse if you

then try to keep that information quiet. If you're trying to keep it away from the public until it is no longer possible to hide it and then it all become public. That sort of behavior breeds distrust and anger, and it should because the general public tends to be unknowing victims of these breaches, so it's only fair to let them know what has happened as soon as possible so that they can, you know, make moves to protect themselves.

So my hope for twenty nineteen is that companies adopt a more transparent approach in general, not just for data breaches, but for other stuff too. They should think ahead about the possible impact that their decisions are going to have on their customers and the public. At large, they should explain those decisions as best they can without you know, obviously getting into the point where you're revealing too much about your strategy or you know, you're talking about insider

trading or something like that. They should consider the consequences and make better choices and be clear about those choices

when communicating them to the world at large. So, if a company experiences a data breach, I would hope that after the initial investigation, which I think is still necessary, if nothing else, just to get a handle on what the scope of the breach was, after that initial investigation, the company probably should come forward and let people know so that they can in fact go out to try and make sure their their stuff is as safe as it can be and to help mitigate the amount of

harm that can be done Otherwise. Likewise, if a company decides to make a change in policy that's going to affect customers or employees, I would like to see them

do that in a clear and honest way. When Apple admitted that it had been throttling the performance of older models of the iPhone, ostensibly to preserve the battery life of those old phones, that was a bit too late, because people had already figured out that Apple was throttling those old phones, and they had already assigned motivation to Apple. A lot of people believe that the whole reason it was done was the company was trying to convince people

to upgrade to newer iPhone model. You know, you just sit there and say, Wow, my old iPhone just doesn't run as fast as it used to. I guess I need a new one. That was what people were saying Apple's intent was, and maybe that was true. But assuming Tim Cook was sincere when he said that Apple wasn't trying to push people into buying new phones, but rather they were throttling the old ones so that they wouldn't burn through battery life so quickly, that was the official

uh explanation. Even if that's true, that explanation came too late. People had already made and believed another story, which again might also possibly be true. Sometimes I think it's necessary for a company to make a change in policy in order to do business or to optimize the technology, and sometimes those changes, while necessary, are not popular with customers. But I think it's for that reason that companies need

to be more transparent about the whole thing. I think people are more likely to accept, even if it's begrudgingly a change, if they at least understand the reasoning behind the change. Otherwise they get the feeling that companies are either hoping their customers are ignorant or stupid or unobservant, that we're all marks. In other words, we're all suckers. And if you feel a company holds you in contempt,

you're not likely to feel particularly warm toward it. So I hope in twenty nineteen we see companies treat the general public with a little more respect in these policies.

I also hope to see companies respond more quickly to concerns that have legitimacy behind them, if customers have a legitimate complaint about a product or service, or if employees object to corporate policies, or and I think this is incredibly important, if an employee brings allegations of sexual harassment or sexual discrimination against a fellow employee or an executive. I want companies to treat those events with the attention they deserve, and not to be slow in doing so.

In ten there were stories of companies failing to do this, or at least failing to do it adequately. And timely, until public scrutiny and criticism essentially forced them to change their policies. Google was faced with enormous pressure, both from within the company and from outside the company to change its mandatory arbitration policy. That was the policy that required employees to try and resolve conflicts, including allegations of sexual

harassment and discrimination internally inside Google. That usually meant that very little was being done about the problems, and it perpetuated a harmful culture in some departments. Now Google has since backed off this policy. They've decided to make the arbitration optional, not mandatory, which is a really good step. I want to see companies like Google be more responsive, and that is to say, I want there to be a reckoning, but not like a reckoning against employees, but

against bad policies. I want these companies to prove that they take these matters seriously and will investigate and react in appropriate ways. I think that changing the culture within those companies will be a step in the right direction to create workplaces that are more productive and positive in general, and then that improvement in workplace culture will manifest in the actual work. So, in other words, companies are going

to get better results with better work environments. Now along that same vein, I want to see a continuation of a trend of seeing a greater representation in technology at all levels for anyone who's not young and male. And that's essentially what I mean by representation. Uh, young, male and white would be even more specific, although in technology we're seeing other folks besides just Caucasian men in the field.

I want to see more of that. I want to see people who are of all ethnicities, genders, sexual orientations. I want to see more of everybody in technology. I think that the world of technology needs to be a reflection of the world around us. That way, the stuff that we're making tends to be representative of who we are as a collective group, and it doesn't leave people out. You also see less chance for things like bias to

be inserted into the design process. I talked about that with artificial intelligence and machine learning and about how bias, even unconscious bias, can find its way into these sorts of systems and that can be harmful in the long run. Well, with increased representation, that can be something we can reduce. And I'm not talking about just throwing people in there

for the sake of throwing them in there. There are lots of people who are very interested and qualified in these fields who are finding it difficult to get a real working job in those spaces. I want to see that chain. So I also want to see changes in our various institutions to encourage greater representation. And I'm talking from education, to employment, to entertainment, because we've constructed this

reality and then we've reinforced this reality. This idea of to be in technology means that you need to be a guy that tends to be the the messaging that we make with our various systems and even our entertainment and culture. I don't believe it's necessarily real. Some women have no interest in these fields. That's true. There's some women who have no interest in technology, but there's some men who don't have interest in technology. Some women are

very much interested and accomplished in these fields. But these women must frequently work against a reinforced system that discourages their participation there, working even harder than men are in order to just be in the field. Not saying that they have to work harder than men to succeed, but rather they have a system that does not favor them,

they have to work to get past that. And I'm talking about women versus men, But a lot of these concepts applied to those other factors like ethnicity or sexual orientation. We've constructed ideas of where people should fit based upon whatever categories they seem to belong to, and in my mind, that has been a huge problem, not just for people who find themselves having to overcome those preconceptions, but for

all of us. Now, I really believe that technology improves as we include more people in the design and construction of that technology. So by encouraging a wider spectrum of people into the field, we bring in new perspectives, we bring in new ideas, new approaches. Are stuff improves because we're getting more of the best ideas and implementations. When we discourage people from going into these fields that they are otherwise interested in, we're denying ourselves the benefit of

their work. So remember, the first computers weren't electronic, They weren't even electro mechanical. The first computers were women who are calculating ballistics tables for the military. Let's not do anything to discourage that representation. Now that's the super heavy stuff I wanted to talk about I got it all the way. First thing. When we come back, we'll go to some more general ideas about technology that aren't quite so heavy handed. The first let's take a quick break

to thank our sponsor. All right, let's talk about some of the other wishes I have for nineteen. One of those wishes is something that a lot of people have been asking for for a very long time. I want us to see. In twenty nineteen, Twitter introduced the option to edit a tweet within a certain amount of time of having posted that tweet. That way, when someone posts something that has a typo in it, or maybe it's not a fully formed thought, maybe they accidentally posted it

before they had even finished writing out the tweet. Maybe they posted something and thought, oh man, no, that really needs a little more context. It's easy that you could add another tweet to that, You could thread tweets to explain it. But it would be great if you could edit it. It It would be nice if you could do so so that the tweet isn't immediately seized upon by

the general Twitter public, which is pretty judgmental. If you've been on Twitter, you can see that a bad tweet can get a lot of very negative reaction very quickly, and it might be the case where someone didn't intend for the tweet to come across the way it did. Now, in some of those cases, it's pretty undeniable someone's trolling or just espousing terrible beliefs or thoughts or whatever. But in other cases, I think it really just genuinely comes across as a goof. So it would be really nice

if we could edit it now. I don't think the edit feature should allow people to change tweets years after they made those tweets. Maybe the time limit could be a couple of minutes from the posted tweet, just a couple of minutes max. And I wouldn't even mind if the tweet indicated that it had been edited, that if anyone saw the tweet after the edit, it would actually show this tweet has been edited at such and such timestamp.

That's fine. Just let me fix my typos without having to delete and repost a message or follow up with a done goofed up tweet. We should also see in twenty nineteen some early deployment and roll out of five G technology, and I haven't really talked about five G on tech stuff very much yet. So I'll have to do an episode on it pretty soon. But it is the next generation of wireless data transmission protocols. It is

a promising um uh technology. We're gonna see some pretty wicked speed from this thing, like a gigabit per second download rate for users, which is really fast for wireless. I mean it's I consider it really fast period. I can't get a gig a bit download on my service and I have the best that I can possibly have in my neighborhood. I'm pretty sure we won't see global five G coverage until about at the earliest, but we should at least have some areas covered in twenty nineteen

and some technology incorporating five G in it. So my wish list is for me to be in that coverage area so I can change how I access the Internet at home. Yes, this is a selfish wish that is ultimately all about me. More generally, I look forward to seeing how five G can support new technologies, including expansive

Internet of Things technologies. If I had one big wish for it, it would be that all the people building the tech that's going to be running on five G are doing so with security in mind, and that the tech would be really strong against hackers and people who want to leverage and exploit that system, because it presents an incredibly tempting target and a potentially rich environment for people for to actually exploit it. So we've got to

be careful out there. I think we're gonna see a lot more large scale renewable energy projects come online in twenty nineteen, So my wish is that these are successful and can show how renewable energy, when properly deployed, can help offset our need to depend upon fossil fuels. I'm pretty much convinced that renewable energy has to be at least part of our strategy to meet our energy needs moving forward, at least until we can crack sustainable fusion.

My wish is that the global community, the US included, would invest more in building out renewable energy power plants, and that we use that to decrease the load on fossil fuel burning power plants rather than just generate and then gobble up extra energy. That is a big wish because typically when it comes to stuff like electricity, we just tend to use more if we generate more. We don't tend to say, oh, well, now we have more electricity than we need, so we can shift of our

production to renewables or whatever. So my wishes that we buck that trend, we really start moving off of fossil

fuels as much as we can. And on a related note, my wish is that we as a whole will develop an adopt strategies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, whether that's uh, you know, embracing electric vehicles more and then also making sure that the way we generate electricity doesn't use a lot of fossil fuels, or also that we come up with more strategies to capture carbon from the atmosphere, and

this would help us mitigate the effects of climate change. Now, I want to be clear, even if I'm being at my most optimistic, there's no way that we're going to reverse the trend on any sort of near term basis for climate change. For that we're talking generations down the road. But we can work to reduce climate change is impact in the lifetime that we have, and then we can

also set the stage for recovery for future generations. It requires us to be a little selfless, because we're gonna have to make some sacrifices on the way in order to make that happen, but I think it's absolutely necessary if we want to avoid global catastrophe. Another wish I have to see in twenty nineteen, or I hope to see in twenty nineteen, are some good advances in autonomous car technology. I did all those episodes and I talked about where we are and where we need to be.

We've seen a ton of progress so far, don't get me wrong. I mean, I am incredibly impressed with where we are, but I also feel we're not nearly as far along as would be indicated with the launch of something like Weymo one, or at least the way it's marketed, or the deployment of Tesla's autopilot feature. Um, these things give us, I think, an unrealistic expectation of where we are with autonomous car technology. We're not nearly as far along as I think a lot of people just assume. Now.

I hope that the various programs that are in place, like Weymo one, are able to gather more information and build out better and better models so that we can get to autonomous cars where we feel safe with them on the road in wide deployment. And I'm hoping we see a lot of that In twenty nineteen, we see a lot of advance toward that. I honestly don't think we're gonna get to a future where autonomous cars are going to integrate seamlessly with traffic for another probably five

or six years. I would guess at least that's me being kind of conservative with those I think really or actually being generous, because I think, really it's going to be more like ten years before we're really really certain. And that's because driving as such a complicated process, and so many different things can happen that you can't easily plan for when you're building out an autonomous system. But I think we're going to see a lot more advanced in it next year, just not to the point where

we're going to have super duper robot cars. Now. Shortly after this episode airs, I'm going to be in Las Vegas, Nevada to attend or Nevada. I'm sorry to attend the two thousand nine teen ce S. So here are some things I hope I will see at CES. There's some things I know I'm gonna see. I'm going to see the latest in televisions. You know, they're gonna be ultra high definition, beautiful four K, eight K sets. I'm going

to see all that kind of stuff there. I hope I'm going to see some truly cool innovations in some technology that's just kind of hitting a slump right now, stuff like virtual reality and augmented reality. You know, those just haven't really been able to take hold the way people were hoping just a couple of years ago. And I still think both technologies are really incredible. There are also technologies that tend to be hard to promote for a lot of reasons. One is that they all all

tend to be pretty expensive. Most of the time, you have to pair the headset with some other piece of technology, such as a game console or a high performing computer or a smartphone. So if you're just starting out that you don't have any of these things, you may have to buy several pieces of equipment, not just the headset or a headset and a controller. So for consoles and mutters, that typically means you've also got a physical cable connecting

the headset to the device. There are some wireless solutions out there, but they're not many, so I'm hoping I'll see some wireless tech on display for a R and v R at c S Sough, then itself is a challenge when you go to a show like CES, because they're just hundreds of companies showing off wireless technologies. So there's a lot of potential interference at c S. But I hope to see it anyway. Beyond all these technical and economic challenges to getting VR and R out the door,

there's another big obstacle. It's really hard to promote these technologies without having someone actually experience it. It's one of those things that you kind of have to try to get a feel for how incredible it could be. Also, I tend to be a little reticent to try these kinds of technologies at c S cause you're in an enormous convention with tens of thousands of people, many of whom have tried that technology before you got there, which seems like a really good way to get conjunctive itis.

But my wish is to see better v R and A R technology and some really cool applications this year at CES. There are a lot of outlets predicting that we're gonna see various foldable screens at c E S, which could be cool. I'm talking about like things like foldable phones and laptops that are taking advantage of oh LED technology, screens that you can actually fold themselves, so it's not just a hinged thing, but something that can fold and bend because of the nature of the o

LED technology. My wishes to see really innovative designs that take full advantage of this quality, for the novelty factor wears off. The nice thing about ce S wishes is that I'm going to find out if they come true or not right at the very start of the year, so that will get out of the way pretty early on. One other big wish is I would love to uh see some innovative, engaging new social networking platforms emerged in

twenty nineteen. I feel like face books a year and provided a lot of lessons to learn about how to conduct business, how to treat customers, both on the user side and advertisers. But I also think that once you have a really large established company like Facebook, it can be really hard to create actionable plans based on those lessons. It's it could be hard to enact those lessons. I'd love to see a new take on social networking that would be guided by those lessons, and I'd love to

see that get traction. That being said, there's been plenty of social networking sites that have tried to rise up to challenge Facebook over the years, and none of them have had much success, at least not in the United States. Some of them were smaller endeavors like Diaspora, but others were from big companies like Apple which had Ping do you remember Ping? Or Google with Google Plus that's gonna shut down in twenty nineteen after a couple of big

data breaches became public. But someone's got to be able to come up with a new approach that's in aging enough to get people to adopt it. I mean, we think of Facebook as being enormous, but my Space was enormous before Facebook came along, so it's not unprecedented. It just requires a social networking site that is compelling, it's easy to use, you know, it's well designed, and it's

very transparent in its policies. That's what's needed. And even then after that, you still have to convince people to go over there and use it. That's the toughest part, I guess, But I'm hoping that we see that. If nothing else, it would add more pressure on Facebook to make changes that would be positive for all of its users. I have a few more wishes I want to share, but first let's take another quick break to thank our sponsor.

I hope to see a lot more focused and enthusiasm around science and technology from an educational perspective in twenty nineteen. We're starting to see some of that stuff now, which is great. I want that trend to continue. Uh. There's a fun documentary in eighteen called Science Fair, which in parts seems to revel an absurdity because in some cases they're they're likening science to something like being a rock star. But I think that's awesome, and to be fair, I

think the documentary brings that out too. I don't think they're making fun of the kids, and it's not like this is unprecedented. Their figures, like Thomas Edison, Nicola Tesla, Albert Einstein, they were all treated as not just brilliant people, but celebrities. I think elevating science and technology in this way, not as a cult of personality, mind you, but it's something that's just really interesting to pursue is a fantastic idea. I want to see more people from all backgrounds encouraged

to dive into that world. I want to see schools and organizations invest in it to give young people the chance to try out new ideas. Now I'm nowhere near the first person to say this, but one of the most amazing things about young people is that they don't know what is impossible, so sometimes they find ways to accomplish things that older people like myself have long dismissed

as being outside of our capabilities. And so time and again, young people prove that old folks like me are wrong, that were narrow minded, that we're not considering all the potential, and the impossible is in fact achievable. In some cases. This is a source of unending inspiration for me, and so I want to see twenty nineteen bring with it a culture that supports and encourages that kind of participation in the field of entertainment, getting into some real, fluffy stuff.

I would love to see some hopeful science fiction. I think dark science fiction definitely has its place, and I love it. A lot of my favorite novels are in that kind of dystopian sci fi realm, like four Brave New World or Fair Night fifty one. Science fiction has often been the vehicle that authors have used to warn us about potentially catastrophic scenarios that could come about, sometimes due to misuse of technology, sometimes despite our ability to

use technology. And I don't think that those stories should stop. We have a need for stuff like Black Mirror there reminds us that we need to be careful. But I'd also love to see more hopeful aspirational science fiction stories that contain not only conflict, but wonder and innovation. I'd like to see something closer to Star Trek the next generation. Now. I think it's good to have both kinds of stories

out there. On the one hand, you want to remind everyone that technology by itself can be misused, or it can be designed in such a way that it causes harm, whether intentionally or otherwise. But on the other hand, I think we also have a need to have inspirational stories that remind us that this isn't necessarily the only outcome for the future. We can shape that future through our choices, and if we make good choices, we're more likely to have a good feature as a result. So here's to

hoping for more aspirational sci fi in twenty nineteen. We're gonna see several new premium streaming video services emerge in twenty nineteen, and we're not really sure what's going to happen with Hulu next year as Disney asserts majority control over the service. My hope, though, is that we continue to see innovative programming on these various services. So it can be frustrating as a consumer to see the proliferation of so many services scattering the various types of content

we want to see across numerous subscriptions. I mean, one of the big motivating factors for cord cutting is that you don't want to pay for all the stuff you don't want to see. But then if all the stuff you want to see gets spread out over a competing services, the only way to see all of it is to subscribe to all those competing services, which just seems like

it's it's complicated in a different way. So my hope is that more storytellers are going to get cool opportunities to bring their ideas to life thanks to those streaming services. I don't wish any of them to necessarily just go away. I mean, obviously, people their livelihoods depend upon these things. I wanted to be in such a way that it makes sense for consumers, and I want to see more

stories get a chance to come to life. Though I'm sure I'll still be grouchy about how many of those services I'll be subscribing to, because I see that when that notification pops up in my email each month, I just think, but I need them. Oh and since Disney has now acquired Fox, I kind of hope we start seeing stuff like the X Men get incorporated into the Marvel Cinematic universe. That's kind of outside the scope of tech stuff. That's just what Jonathan hopes to see in

theaters moving forward. But sticking with entertainment, I'm going to get really granular here. There's another Jonathan specific wish. I hope that Bethesda is able to sort out and salvage fall Out seventy six. I'm one of a relative the small percentage of players who enjoys the game, or at least I haven't grown so frustrated that I won't play the game. But I think anyone who is being intellectually honest test to admit that game has a lot of issues.

But as has already started to address some of those, They've rolled out various patches. I would love to see Fallout seventy six reach a point where people playing the game don't feel like they have to justify their decision to play the game. So, in other words, I want to see Fallout seventy six reach a point at which the average critic would say it's a good game. Maybe not a great game, but a good game by the

end of tween nineteen. That might take a lot of work considering how hard a lot of critics slagged this game, and again, I can't blame them for their reactions. I don't hate it, but I definitely see the reasoning behind the criticism. I'm also hoping that we see many more high quality podcasts emerge in twenty nineteen, whether they are ongoing series or a limited run. One of the things I love about podcasts is that it can give people who have in credible stories to tell a platform upon

which they can share those stories. Whether it's an investigative podcast that dives deep into a subject or an event in order to tell that really compelling story, or it's a more general podcast that covers topics like technology, or if it's a comedy podcast it's just really made to make people laugh. We're in a real golden age of content right now. There's way too much out there right

now for anyone to listen to all of it. But I'm still hoping that twenty nineteen will bring with it some amazing shows with different voices telling important or entertaining stories, or that some of those podcasts that are already out there and are already amazing but are largely unknown. I hope they can rise up to the surface so that more people can discover them. Uh. I still really love listening to podcasts. I as a podcaster who does this all the time. I still think it's one of the

most entertaining forms of connecting with people. So I definitely want to see more of those. As for things I'm not wishing for in twenty nineteen, I'm not wishing for flying cars. I know people are still working on that, but honestly, we are still dealing with trying to get terrestrial autonomous cars working. I can't even imagine what happens

when we get the flying cars in there now. In some ways, flying can actually be easier for automated systems, particularly when you're at a high enough altitude where there are very few potential obstacles. But once you talk about a vehicle that should be able to operate both on the ground level and in the air above, say a city, you encounter some really difficult problems that we absolutely have to solve before we can safely roll out, so to speak,

so ambitious a technology. I don't necessarily think flying cars will never be a thing, but I think we just need to kind of put that on the back burner for like a decade or so to make sure we've got the biggest challenges sorted out. I'm also not wishing for more marketing speech or on the concept of digital transformation. That is, you know, I can get behind the idea. Generally speaking, it suggests that we leverage technology, particularly digital technologies,

to do work and solve problems. It's sort of an extension of the old paperless office concept, in which computers would remove the need for us to have all those darned paper files and everything. But the marketing around this concept tends to be very shallow. Um. It tends to be let's throw technology at the problem and that will fix everything, which I don't think is ever really true.

I've seen businesses, organizations, and schools jump on this kind of idea because It almost seems like it's a shortcut to success, right that, oh, if we just throw computers at it, things will be better. But it's not just the technology that makes things better. It's the application of technology that's really important. Not not the acquisition of tech,

but the way you apply it. So I'd like to see more tension devoted to implementing technology purposefully and thoughtfully, rather than just let's get the clothes the newest toys that are out there and give them to everybody. That doesn't necessarily fix everything. In fact, at least in the short term, it can make things worse as everyone just tries to figure out how the darn thing works. And I don't think we're gonna see any enormous leaps in

AI in twenty nineteen. We'll see improvement, obviously, that will continue. We'll see innovation, we'll see interesting ways in which people are going to apply AI. But I don't think we're gonna get the world's first self aware conscious machine or anything like that. But this is a wish list, not

a predictions list. So my wish list is if we do get some sort of self aware, self conscious machine, which, by the way, I think it's almost impossible, but if we do get it, my wish is that it is a genuinely helpful construct now that will augment our ability to learn and to grow as people. I would absolutely love for a I to become better human beings. That would be my my wish, And I know that's a huge wish on top of the possibility of this AI even existing, to make it a benevolent one that makes

us better people, that's a huge, huge thing. It's not even close to being listed as one of the more likely scenarios in the wake of a sophisticated artificial intelligence emerging. But we are talking about wishes here. What about you, guys, what do you wish for in twenty nineteen? What are you hoping to see or experience? What are you hoping

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