TechStuff Looks at OS X Lion

the Mighty Jungle. Well you know, uh, you know, he doesn't tell me what quotes he picks before we do this, which is why I always chuckle because I'm going, oh see he picked that one. Yeah, um, but yes, wey. So today we are we are tackling something that many people have asked us about, and boy is that dangerous. You don't want to enjoy general tackle a lion sucker,

l take your head clean off. Uh yeah. And if you're wondering why, because people have been asking about this for a couple of months now and we didn't get right to it. It's it's one of those things where we went, hey, this week, we should do mac Os ten lion no let's wait until next week. And then we we found out that, uh, you know something about

Windows eight. They they announced it at the Microsoft Developer Conference, and we said, you know what, now would be a good time for us to do one on Microsoft's new OS, and we'll do Lion as well, so that we want to talk about Lion. Yeah, so we've you know, I'm not exactly sure when we're scheduling these. We haven't. We haven't sat down and scheduled them. But we have a Windows eight episode and we have a mac Os ten Lion episode, and we're recording both of them on the

same day. Now. We've just finished recording Windows eight, but it may or may not have published yet. So we're going to just say that if this one's publishing first, don't worry Microsoft fans, Windows eight is coming. And if Windows eight came out first, boy, those Land fans didn't get upset because I didn't warn them at the beginning of that episode. Don't worry Apple fans. You're oh, we're

recording it. Yeah, So let's talk about Lyon now. First of all, it is part of the mac OS ten family of operating systems, all of which have names that are big cat names. Yes. Now, um, I want to point out too that unlike Windows eight, which is coming out sometime in twelve, mac Os Lion is available today as at the time we're recording this, And but there is one big similarity which is, unlike in past operating systems, the two of these are taking cues from the mobile world.

Many of of Lyon's early reviews came back and said, hey, this looks an awful lot like the Io S, which is the operating system that's used on the i iPod Touch, the iPhone, and the iPad UM. And we've suspected for a while that the mac os and the iOS were converging on a similar point and that maybe we'll get

to a point where they are practically indistinguishable from each other. Now, granted, uh, you're always going to be able to run more complex and uh resource intensive UM applications on a desktop or laptop because it has more hardware resources to dedicate to that kind of stuff. But the actual experience of navigating the operating system should be pretty much, um well, very similar to the point where if you're familiar with one,

the other feels natural to you. Yes, I think that these companies are trying to immerse you in their operating systems to the point where the whole environment. You have your tablet, you have your phone, and you have your computer of some kind, and they all look and operate very similarly. So I say, you know, I need a new phone, but I want to get the Q phone. I don't want to get the Q phone. Mean, everybody's got that, but I'm not familiar with that operating system.

So I'm just gonna stick with this. Yeah, And also we should point out that we are recording this podcast before the official launch of iOS five. That's true, and iOS five is probably we we've already seen some hints of iOS five and what's gonna involve in what's going to uh the feature kind of features that's gonna have, but we haven't had a full rundown of all those features. And it may very well be that once iOS five has gone live, that the resemblance between iOS five and

Lion is even closer than what we're talking about right now. Now. I've been using mac os ten since UH, since it's very first version. And like Jonathan said, UM, these have all been named for big cats, UM and UH of varying sizes. They don't go in any kind of order that can tally the cats get larger because tiger was a few versions ago, and tigers are bigger than lions. Well, so you might be saying, what are these versions they

and and this is the other funny part. We have another number discrepancy, but this one at least is easier to explain than the Windows versioning system. Um. There are seven previous versions to mac OS ten point seven. They are Cheetah, Puma, jaguar, panther, tiger, leopard, and snow leopard. UM. The reason that there are seven previous versions of macOS ten and that this one is ten point seven is that Cheetah was actually ten point zero. UM. And I

can tell you that cheetahs really don't prosper. It was it was clearly clunky Cheetah in the system, but that was right after they acquired the technology from next would you say that cheetah was a little spotty. So the thing that the thing is that macOS ten point six snow Leopard UH was considered more of a a bug fix and incremental improvements. And a lot of the stuff was behind the scenes, stuff like grand central um, which is not something you see and you know who look

at that thing. It was designed to improve the way the operating system handled information, and it was kind of supposed to be transparent, like it's it's better, and there's not like a flashy new feature exactly. The idea was that this is supposed to improve the consumer experience without being intrusive. That is not the case with Lion intrudes

way the heck Lion prowls yes on you. And I think I think, uh, you're seeing with both Windows eight and mac ows ten Lion that the major operating system manufacturers are unafraid to make major changes to the operating system. And you know, we talked about this in the Windows eight podcast, which you may or may not have already heard. I think we should go ahead and schedule at first. Why don't we do that? So but but we've talked

about it before. But it's clear that uperating system developers are really looking at how people are using the mobile version of operating systems and how quickly people adapt to that, and then they're they're saying, well, what what can we take from that design element and apply to a desktop or laptop model so that our operating system is just as intuitive and easy to use as the mobile version of that operating system. Yeah. Yeah, well there are there

are tons and tons of new features. Yeah, and a lot of them are are less than exciting. Um. You you did touch on this in the macOS ten article you recently wrote about floor how stuff works dot com um and and I mean there were things like voiceover, which supports twenty two different languages. Um. And makes it more accessible for people because you can actually have the

computer read to you. I have an impairment or visual impairment, than this can be a way for you to work with this computer without, you know, making making it easier for you to access the applications and information on your device. This is the kind of thing that that I think a lot of people find less than exciting. But I think you know, it's a it's a nice feature, um And I just wanted to mention it simply because it

does make computers more accessible for more people. Can I tell you one of the features that I actually think is I'm pretty excited about this is going to show you how lame I am. No, No, seriously, I really will. Launchpad launch Pad Launchpad is the quick of app that will open up a box that shows you all the the executable applications that are on your Mac. So, in other words, it shows all the apps that you can run in one view. And the reason why I think this is cool is because I'm a Lamo. I I

am used to using the Windows operating system. When I say Lamo, I really mean I'm a Macnube. I own a Mac, but I don't use my Mac that frequently, so I still don't know all the shortcuts because I just don't use it that that much. I mean, I know that I could know them all if I actually put forth the effort. I just haven't done that, but I don't know all the shortcuts on accessing all the apps. And if it's not in my dock at the bottom of the screen, then I'm like, wait, where's my Where's

the program I want to run? Because I don't see the icon down here, And then I have to open up Finder and I have to find the thing. And I know all you Mac users out there are saying, oh, calm on. A lot of the macusers out there are probably using something like Alfred or or um Quicksilver, you know, or or launch Bar or something like that too. You know, there's a key command and then you can type in

the name of the thing and it just opens. Yes, there are things like that for Windows to right right, It's just that I'm familiar with navigating through Windows, so I don't have any There's no delay for me there because I've just I've used it so so much. Yeah, exactly. Once you know the once you know the way, and you've got used it a couple of times, you're good And I just haven't taken that that that time. Well, launch pad it opens up a window that shows you

all the applications you can run. So, in other words, you don't have to worry about hunting for it in the dock or if it's not there, where do you find it? If it's not on your desktop, what do you do? And um, And that I think is a great feature for people who are new to the Mac operating system or people who just like the simplicity of

doing it that way. Frankly, Yeah, except that I think if you've been using a Mac for a while, you probably have so many apps that opening up a window that has all of them listed is not really a great solution, which is why I use a launcher. Yeah, exactly. See, so for So for someone who's used MAX quite a bit and have experience with lots and lots of applications, and they have lots of applications, it's not an ideal,

uh feature. But for someone who's brand new to the operating system who doesn't know their way around yet, it is something that makes it much more user friendly. Um especially I mean if you're like me, and you know, it's kind of like the old dog new tricks thing, right, I've had it beat into me that this is there's a very specific way that you go about to access the programs that are on your computer, and it's really hard for me to rewire that at this point. Well,

another another trick they've taken from the iOS book. And you know, there were a lot of people who were saying that they kind of thought that iOS might be moving to the Mac. Um it's not there yet. This

is definitely unlike again Windows eight. This is definitely a there's a line in between the two still, but there are a lot of similarities, including the ability in launchpad to group applications in folders as you would in an iOS device, and just your navigation Yeah, which actually, from what I understand, has caused some people to go bonkers, Yeah, because it's just your it's modeled after that mobile device

um experience. So for example, when uh, when you are looking at a screen and there's more information on uh, let's say it's a website. So you're looking at a website and there's more information below the bottom of the screen that you cannot see. The way you look at that on us on a mobile device, as you put your finger on the screen and you move your finger up, and that pulls the page up so you can see the stuff that's lower down, right, So in other words,

you flick up to see further down. Well, if you're using a mouse with a scroll wheel, the traditional way to scroll through a a web page that has more information further down is you dial that wheel towards you downwards and your fingers making a downward motion. Right, So uh yeah, so you're pulling the wheel towards you to scroll down. That ain't the way Lion does it. Lion apes the the model of the mobile device. So now in order to scroll down, you you push the wheel

up away from you, not toward you. So it's opposite what it used to be, which when I first was reading the reviews, and that, and even Apple says, hey, you know, it's gonna take you a little while too to learn this, and if you really hate it, you can change the settings. So it's not like Apple makes you do this, it's just it's said as the default. I read so many people like, how do I change my settings? I can't scroll anywhere, I have to hold my mouths upside down, and I gotta be underwater and

it only works with bacon's on the stove. I don't know what's happening. There might have been a bit of hyperbole, but yeah, it was one of the That was one of the first things I saw was that it wasn't talking about how slick the interface it was. It was I don't know how to scroll anymore. Yeah. That the gesture navigation, Um, it's gonna be easier for people who

are using laptops with a touchpad. Um. Of course Apple also max with a touch pad now also, um, yeah, because they sell a magic what they call the Magic touchpad track pad. Sorry, yeah, and they also have the Magic mouse. What you can you can also scroll using your fingers, so um, and do other gestures as well. Yes, I know some people who do gestures at them. But U But yeah, I mean so you can you can

do that. Another feature that I think is cool again sort of that falls in the same sort of buckets Mission control, which is sort of a uh refined version of expose a UM, which is a feature on a couple of previous versions of the macOS where you can hit the A button or use a you know key command UM, and it will show you every open window on on your Mac, all the all the active applications

that are running at that point. Yeah. Now mission control shows you even more than that, including the dashboard which is where widgets are found. Um, any open window, full screen applications. Oh yeah that it also allows you uh lie and also allows you use full screen apps, which is nice. Yeah, so that that models after the iPad. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like a visual version of the task Manager for Windows. So for people who are who are used to Windows, who are thinking what does this mean?

All right, so when you pull up your task manager and Windows, you want to see all the applications that are currently running. Maybe you want to do that so you you know, you can make sure that you aren't running any unnecessary applications. So that way your your computer is not running slowly that kind of stuff, same sort of thing, except this is a much more visual way

of representing that. It actually literally opens up all the little windows so that you can get a bird's eye view of all the stuff that's happening on your Mac

at that moment. Um. Expose A still exists, but expose A now handles multiple multiple windows in the same application UM, and you can you can control spaces, which is, you know, basically alternate desktops UM, which I use sometimes, Like for example, I'll have you know, music playing in one window and I really don't want uh, you know, I have a a browser window open where I'm working with all on all the tabs in that browser window are how stuff works dot com related where I'm looking up uh facts

for the podcast or looking something up for or testing a page before it goes live. And I don't want my music player in the same window. I move it to another space so that I could, you know, keep my work stuff there and it helps me focus on work. UM. That's all part of mission control now, which I think is nice and I actually like the idea of grouping applications.

I thought that was cool about Windows seven because one of my big complaints about earlier versions of Windows was you'd have you know, say, three browser windows open, and after a while with all the other stuff that you have open, they they they're so sliver thin that you can't tell which window is which without you know, tabbing through them. Um. And I like that the Windows seven has that, And I think that this is also a

nice feature in mac os Lion. There are a couple of little different but there are a couple of features in Lion that I think are like killer features, features that make me want Lion and make me want to buy a new Mac. And this is confim Yeah, this is coming from someone who doesn't use the many Mac applications, but I just I love the fact that it's built into the operating system. Um. The first being the auto save feature, yeah, which is this is not can't stress

how important that is that. This is another feature that I think a lot of people consider unglamorous. Uh. And you have apps that do auto save, yeah, I mean for all operating systems, but this brings it across the entire operating system. So basically, anybody who's using that part of the API for the Maco and you know, it's got it plugged into the operating system, it's going to auto save for you. And it's a it's kind of similar to UH time machine if you've ever used that.

It's and there are actually three components to auto save. There's the auto save component, where it's saving the state of the computer automatically, so that way, should you should you shut down prematurely or whatever, the pet loss of power or whatever, you're able to get back to a state that's very close to what you were at before the power went down. UM. There is UH the resume feature, which is part of auto safe. Resume is where it

picks up right where you left off. So let's say that you're in a document and you're editing a document.

Chris does this occasionally. So you're editing a document and you have to shut down because it's time for you to go somewhere else, and you're you're in the middle of editing, so you you save your progress and you shut down and you go, Well, resume lets you when you launch that application again, it's going to open up exactly where you left off, including the cursor position, which so if you're working on page sixteen, you're the cursor is exactly like, yeah, if you were you, if you

leave your cursor right where you left off, so that way you're you say, Okay, from this point forward, I need to continue editing. But I've done everything previous to this point. Now that sounds that might sound really mundane to you, but this is a huge help for people

who do a lot of content creation and editing. Speaking as someone who does a lot of writing, this is incredibly important because sometimes once in a while, I'll write an article and I'll be on page three of my article and I realized, hey, there's this cool thing I should have written in page two, and uh, or maybe there's something that should be page three, and this is what I'm working on right now should really be page four.

And I'll go back and I'll insert a new page and I'll start typing stuff, and then I have to quit, and I have to go do something else, and I have to come back. Well, having it pick up exactly where I left off means that I spend less time going through this document that I've been working in and

figuring out where I need to pick up from. And uh, you know, if if I worked in a very chronological timeline specific way, it wouldn't be necessary because I would just go to the first blank spot in the document and that's where I would need to start. That's not how I work. So that featured to me is really important.

And a third one is the version's feature. Now versions, what that lets you do is look the various iterations of whatever the file is or whatever the app is, so that you can see what what its status was each time it was saved. Okay, So here's the scenario. Hit me with it. I uh, I was working on a project my senior year in college on my Amiga. Um I had written they had Amiga's back when you were in college? Yes? Were? They made out of wood? Okay? So I was working on this on this one paper

for my class. It was due. I can't remember exactly what time, but it was you know, afternoons, like two

pm or something like that, and I don't know. I got really good at the keyboard command for saving, so you know, like you know, Amiga s to save it because they had you know, keys like the Apple command key, so you know, or the Windows key, so you know, I save that the document you know on type type type type, and I'd save it because I've learned the lesson that we all learned many times, where we don't save something and you come back and you go, oh,

what happened to it? Somehow? He by the way, he does sound like that when it happens. Yeah, I was I was ready to do this. I was going, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna save this and print it. I hit, I hit something, I hit select all, deleted it, saved it and closed it. Somehow I just fat fingered it. Wow. So and so, like the worst possible the entire paper

minutes before it was due. If I had had a feature like this, I could have gone to the previous version of the paper and at least had I don't know, nine and three quarters of ten pages left to you know, finish my conclusion or whatever it was that I was doing. I procrastinate, you know, because of this. It's why Chris does not own Facebook, exactly that splitting path. If he had just saved it, yes, he would be a multi billionaire. And instead he's sitting at this little table with me.

Please shoot me now trump bowe um. So. Yes, that is a very incredibly useful feature to be able to go back or if you've written something you know that stinks, and then the next day you you know what, maybe that did what what did I write that? Maybe that didn't stink? Well, now you can go find out. Yeah, and and the other you know, because I said there were two big things that I thought were really important. Yeah, what's the other one? The other one is air drop. Ah, yeah,

that's a nice feature. Air Drop is again because are setting up a home network is not necessarily difficult, but there is a level of familiarity you have to reach in order to get to this point where you can set up a home network where it's easy for you to share files across devices. Right, not everyone knows how

to do that. They might know, oh, well I use this router and that allows me to access the Internet, but they don't know how to send files from computer A to computer B without emailing it or something, right, sneak net right, put it on a flash drive exactly. Yeah, it's just it's because there's still that barrier there. And I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying that the average user doesn't know how to do that. Air Drop is getting around that. Air Drop is a way that

you can share files. You can transfer files across from one Mac to another as long as they're both in WiFi range, and it doesn't matter what network the two machines are on, which is phenomenal to me. You've got like your own little local area network that just exists for as long as they're in WiFi range of each other.

So if you have multiple uh mac os ten lion devices running or computers running we should just say computers because it's not really devices computers running, then you can air drop a file from one to the other and share, you know, just it'll go through as fast as the the WiFi speeds allow, which is pretty phenomenal. I mean, it makes it makes that networking and sharing so much easier, and you don't have to fiddle with things like email or putting it on a flash drive and walking it

on over. Yeah, and it's it's a little easier to configure. And in addition to that, you might be saying, well, you know that sounds kind of dangerous to me, what if somebody else is lurking around outside uh the The connection between the two during air drop is encrypted, so it should be theoretically impossible for somebody to capture the transfer and and get at you in that way, and

if not impossible, very very improbable. Well you know that I hate to speak indefinites, because there's just gonna be an exception to the rule until we get to quantum of encryption. I don't know. Except for that rule, there's never gonna be an exception to the exception to the rule rule. I mean, you know, nothing moves faster than the speed of light unless it does. Is the top still spinning? So what about file vault fault similar? It's

an encryption technique. Now, people complained about file vault which didn't have a one, but file vault one they're calling it you now, uh, because there were there were let's say, problems with it. Um, not that it was bad. People use it and it works, but um, there have been problems getting at some of the things in there. And and so file Vault two is an improved version of the whole disc encryption scheme that was in previous versions of the operating So now this is important if you

are using a Mac to work on sensitive material. Let's say it's for work and you work at a company where you've got uh, sensitive corporate files on your Mac. Well, something like file valled is important just in case should that that computer ever leave your side for any reason,

someone else doesn't have access to that information. That's the it's just it's the point of encryption, and the and Lion has built it in directly into the operating system so that it's and at least in the very easier for you to to activate, so you're not going to be um, you know, having to hunt for a third party solution to encrypt your information. It also supports external drive encryption and it is bit encryption, so it is pretty thorough and it won't work on the entire drive.

It also offers you an instant wipe feature, so if something you lose the laptop, you can or well, I don't know if you can do it remotely, so I take that back, but you can. You can wipe it. You can wipe the entire drive. Uh Let's say you you know you're done with this computer, but you want to give it to someone else. You could you could have it go ahead and wipe the entire drive and give it to him knowing that it's done. Let's coming back.

You're sitting at your desk and the Feds are coming and you're thinking Oh no, lull Sec is going to be so mad at me. You know, legal is going to be all over your case. I'm just saying, lull Sec. You know all the FEDS are after you. We know this, man. Oh man, that's common knowledge, that's in the news. So then there's also a Lion also has the Lion Recovery feature. So if you if you're with one of your disks is damaged and when I say a damage disc, I

don't necessarily mean physically damaged. Uh, then you can have a a full reinstall of OSX Lion without having to require you use a physical disk. So um. It also helps you restore from things like a time machine backup that kind of stuff. Uh. Oh, there's the uh you know what we didn't mention. What didn't we mention? The Mac OS ten Lion, to my knowledge and correct me if I'm wrong, is the first of the Mac operating systems which you could just download directly from the Mac

app Store. Yeah. I was going to bring that up if we were done talking about specific features, because some of the features aren't features. This is this is brand new for for Mac. And another thing that they did which was sort of unusual because both Windows and Apple have our Windows and Macintosh operating systems recently have come with sort of higher prices depending on which version of Windows you're buying. I mean, you can buy a cheaper version.

The mac Os. Until snow Leopard had been retailing for about a hundred and twenty nine dollars for the next version of the operating system, and then with snow Leopard they offered it for twenty nine dollars, saying hey, well,

you know, it's an incremental upgrade. It's it's kind of small lions stayed at that price point and it's now digital download, which is going to cause people to go, ah, so if you don't have to print manuals and uh press discs and arrange for distribution, you can charge less for things. Yeah. Yeah. It puts the pressure on other operating system developers, yes, yes, um, specifically ones that ryan with sch Microsoft. Yes, well, you know the Linux operating

system manufacturers. Most of those are for free distributions. Usually with the distributions distributions usually usually the distribution is free and support is what you end up paying for. Yeah. Yeah, so, uh, you know, this is kind of a new thing now they do offer again, not everyone has access to high speed internet, so they offer a thumb drive version which came out after the initial release of Line. I believe it's sixty dollars to get a thumb drive with Line

installed on that. But um, they Apple has been pushing the move from physical format software a disc with the software on two digital downloads, so of course they were doing that with a Mac app store. Um. But but this is they're they're actually I mean to download your operating system. That's kind of a new thing. Um. One thing that Lion doesn't have that may completely prevent me

from switching my current Mac over is Rosetta. Rosetta was um of course, several years ago Mac uh computers moved from the I be empower PC architecture to Intel's X eight six architecture. Rosetta was a technology built in the operating system prior to Lions, so it's no Leopard. And before that allowed you to run PPC apps on the Intel architecture, you had the Universal Translator. Yeah, it's not

included and you can't get it for Lions. So if you if you are transferring when you when you install Mac OS ten Lion to a machine previous, you know you already own a Mac, and now you're upgrading your operating system. It will port over all your applications from your old Mac into this new operating system unless they rely on this translation. Yes, because it doesn't. It's not supported within Mac os ten lions, So you those applications

will remain untouched. And a loon in the desert crying softly. Yes, so these legacy apps, that's going to be a problem. Yes. Now I suppose I could partition my hard drive and run lying on a separate partition. Um, but right now I'm kind of running low on hard drive space. Are you still using those legacy apps regularly? Well? One, the one that I've seen most frequently mentioned is into It's

Quicken seven. Um Quicken. There's a newer version of Quicken that will run online, but it is the the essentials version, so it's not as feature rich feature rich as previous versions, like the full version of Quicken. Now, um, that's not Apple's fault. But people who use Quicken a lot, like my my spouse who keeps track of all our finances on Quicken, uh, probably would prefer to continue. Now you know, we don't. We haven't tried the other version so I

don't know. But there are other things too. Um, some of the games I play are for earlier versions of the Mac operating system, and I would like to continue to be able to play those games. So I might leave this particular Mac on snow Leopard and the next wait for the next computer purchase to like marath On. No I do I have a copy of Marathon No shock here? Yeah, well, you know, stuff like a Rise of Nations in Age of Vampires is wondering. I'm like, gosh,

playing those old games. Yeah, I'm not actually usually allowed to pop open an r C Cola and need a moonpie while I'm doing it. Worcraft three three, Oh my gosh. Okay, so that old well okay, no, it's it's pretty hold yeah. Um, Burning Monkey Solitaire and well there you go. So there you go. If you've got Burning Monkeys in it, I'm on board, see, And that's why I'm sad that free

Verse discontinued all their Burning Monkey apps. So one other thing that's kind of interesting now, if you have if you download Lion from the app store, you can install it on all the computers that you own and control, so you don't have to buy a family license. If you own and control ten max in your house, that can run lyon Apple is okay with you installing Lion on all those machines, which is pretty upgrade price. That's pretty phenomenal, and I'd like to see other operating system

manufacturers do that too. I think that. I mean, it's an operating system. And there's some stuff we haven't talked about. I mean, macOS tens of stuff. Supports FaceTime yep, so you're able to do the video calls with people who have an iPhone four or an iPad two. Yeah, of course you can. You can do that with it earlier. You can download FaceTime on earlier version, but it comes funded in. This one's incorporated directly into the operating system.

They've improved mail. There's a new wide screen view on mail. Never. I never used Apple Mail, um never. One of the things I like about Apple Mail is that it allows you to use all different kinds of accounts, including Microsoft Exchange accounts um. So, if you have your personal account on say Yahoo or Gmail or a o L, you can use that and check your work mail with Exchange and well, uh, you know, update your eye cow I

cow is also updated on account either yeah. Well, well, and here's the other thing is that the we should also point out this is as we record this podcast OS ten, Lion is still pretty young. Yes, it is right. It has moved to dot one though it's a cub so there are some third party like sound workstations that are not yet supported by Lions. So depending on what you use your Mac for, there may be things that you can't do just yet because it's just not yet

supported by Lion. And that's true of any operating system when it goes through a change like this. It also has one one well known bug, yes, Safari, mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I just hate that browser. Well, I know you do, but you don't have to use it. No. In fact, the Mac version of Chrome is quite nice, and I know you like Chrome. Yeah, it's the Mac version of Chrome is is uh is acceptable? But yeah, Safari, I just can't stand I still can't stand it, you know,

I mean what else can I say? Okay, well, did aug I know I would. It's going. I don't know if a bug ins apart, No, no, it is the bug. Yeah. Um, if you're interested and if you're interested in making the switch and you're concerned about which apps will and won't work. Um, I suggest a site called roaring apps dot com like roaring like a Lion does, and they have a table that you can look at and see which apps are

and are not functional in Lion. And I suggest uh, looking carefully at the comments because some people, uh, you know, do what Jonathan just did. I hate this app and I'm like, yeah, but does it work? Yeah? Some people like me troll, So yeah, there was totally a trolling, fling baiting content comment I I fully admit. So make make sure you check to see if if people are actually reporting that it isn't working or they're just snarky

comments about you know, I don't. Of course, if you're buying a new a new Mac, then it's gonna Lion is gonna be what's the operating system that's on the computer, so you're gonna see these features and um, if you're buying a new Mac, well, then you know you're not worried about poring over old apps. Probably, I mean you might be. I guess you could be buying a new machine importing all your stuff from an old machine to

your new machine. But and it also will will port some information over from Windows so at least that's my understanding of it. Interesting. UM so yeah, if you haven't, if you were ready to make the switch, if you decided that you do like the mac os and you've been using a Windows machine, it it can do some

of that for you. Yeah. It's um, I mean we're seeing I think, as the mobile devices that Apple produces continue to dominate in the market, UM, we're gonna see this operating system kind of emulate that more and more until it's pretty much a seamless experience from one device to another. Uh. It's proven to be a popular moll modele and um it might just make Apples mac share

go even higher. Um yeah, it's it's entirely possible. Um yeah, according to I just wanted to check before I uh found out for sure whether or not I needed to completely rerecord this section now and you talked about Uh, it will move Windows Home directory folders including music, pictures, documents, downloads, browser, bookmarks and settings, um Outlook and Windows Live Meal. Um so yeah, I really will migrate a lot of your personal information from Windows. So that's um. It's interesting too.

That and the fact that they promote boot camp and as an opportunity to install Windows on your mac. Um. You know, thinking back to the days where there was high pitched animosity between two companies and now Apples going, you know what, and use ours and install theirs. It's all right, we'll help you move over. If you want to stay with it, it's okay. Well, if it means funny, if it means that they move more machines, of course

they're going to do that, and they have been. The recent sales figures I've seen suggest that Apple is selling more machines. Of course, that still means that they have a tiny market share, but but it's growing. Yeah. You know, before it was so small that you know, most people just dismissed Apple outright. But over the past few years they the company has proven you know, don't dismiss us, that's a mistake, and that's kind of proving true. So

we'll see if Lyon continues that trend. Yep. And again, we we've mentioned a lot of stuff that that we like about lying and there are many many more features that we didn't talk about. So please let us know if you, uh, if you have a particular feature that you thought was cool and that we didn't get to. We'd like to hear about it. And if you're a Safari fan, I'm sorry, you know, I hope, I hope you find help soon. So if you guys want to write us and let us know what, okay, I'll admit

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