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Could Live Service Games Kill the Games Industry?

May 13, 202444 min
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Recently, Microsoft shut down four video game studios. The industry as a whole has seen major disruption this year. And some worry that a shift toward live service games could be a big part of the problem. What's going on? Part one of two!

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Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey thereon Welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with iHeart Podcasts and how the tech are you? You know, it's a tough time to work in the tech industry, unless, of course, you're an executive, in which case you probably can't hear how tough it is because of the sound of huge bags of money hitting your desk. It's drowning everything else out socept maybe

the demands of your shareholders. But if you're not some suit who is laying waste to the ranks of your staff in an effort to secure payouts to the folks who hold stocks in your company plus a hefty compensation package for yourself, times are pretty scary. Now. That's true across multiple industries. But today I want to talk a

bit about the video games sector in particular. Idea came to me when I heard about Microsoft, which is a three trillion dollar company, and how it was shutting down several notable video game studios, which included some that are known for a pretty wide spectrum of games. And some of those games, yes, were clunkers. They performed less well than expected in the market. Games like Redfall, which came from R. Kane Austin. That's a notable example of a

game that was met with a fairly lukewarm reception. R Kane Austin would find itself as one of the studios that got shut down by Microsoft recently. And to be fair to R. Kane Austin, my understanding is that Redfall was a project that had a lot of shifting priorities that were placed upon the development team. So I'm not laying blame here. I think the Redfall was a pretty complicated story. I'm not sure that what came out of that project was the same thing as what people were

hoping for when they first started it. Anyway, those cuts that Microsoft made, they also included studios that have produced games that got a lot of recent critical acclaim. Tango GameWorks is one of those studios. I mean it developed a game called Hi Fi Rush last year, which released to no real announcement, like it was a surprise release, and people really clicked with that game, sometimes literally because it's a rhythm based game. That was an unexpected pun

from me. Now, these cuts are really rough, and the first thing I really want to say is that I hope all the people who have been affected by those cuts are able to land on their feet. Because it's a really tough world out there for game development, particularly among the big studios, which we've seen a lot of big companies make some drastic cutbacks. I hope those who perhaps have found themselves out of employment are able to land a really rewarding gig soon, both professionally rewarding and

personally rewarding. But today I wanted to talk about what might be behind Microsoft's strategy, at least to an extent. Now, I want to preface this by saying I don't have any special insight. It's not like I was brought into the boardroom to talk about these things. The impressions I get are similar to those proposed by other outside observers, so I'm not also saying that I have a unique

perspective on this. By far is not unique. If you do a search online, you will find countless articles and videos of people giving their take on what's going on in the industry. But by looking at Microsoft's recent moves, I think I can make some general guesses. So, for one thing, after many months of trying to close a truly massive deal, while regulators around the world were raising

concerns about it. Microsoft finally acquired another enormous game studio called Activision Blizzard, and that was for sixty eight point seven billion with a B dollars. Now, it's not unusual to see layoffs in the wake of a large acquisition or merger because typically you do have overlap between the two entities, right, and you say, well, why do we want these these roles duplicated. That's bloat, that's unnecessary. So we do need to make some hard choices in order

to run an efficient operation. That stinks for the people who are affected. But from a business perspective, you can understand that that there's no need to employ twice as many people that are needed to do a specific task. However, these studios that Microsoft just recently shut down were their own individual organizations. They were not part of some heterogeneous whole. It's not like Microsoft has one truly enormous room just filled with video game developers who are all working on stuff.

These are largely separate and semi autonomous game studios. They just have Microsoft as sort of their parent company umbrella.

So one possible reason for these shutdowns is that Microsoft just needed to make some cutbacks to decrease the impact of this incredibly large transaction they made to acquire Activision Blizzard, and so like they like, well, we bought it, we got what we said we wanted, but now we need to cut back so that it doesn't have as large an impact on our balance sheet at the end of

the year. I'm guessing another reason is that Microsoft is pushing toward a game model that has become increasingly popular because of its ability to continue to generate revenue after a game is released, and that's the games as a service approach, and more specifically live service games, which you

could argue is like a subcategory of games as a service. Now, the as a service model is one that's really taken hold of tech in general, not just the games industry, and that has both good and bad consequences as a result. I am not going to make a blanket statement and say that all games as a service or live service

games are bad. I don't feel that way, but I will say that a lot of the elements of games as a service have had a disruptive and from at least some points of view, harmful impact on the industry. As a whole. Now as a service model has been used for lots of stuff. You have security as a service,

computing as a service, storage as a service. The list goes on and on, and essentially all of these boil down to a provider company offering certain services over the Internet so that the customer doesn't have to run stuff on their own hardware, so instead the customer uses their hardware to access this online service over the Internet. That can be a huge help if you are launching a startup and it's an Internet based business, using some as a service stuff can really help you meet customer and

partner expectations. But you don't have to take on the expense and effort of building everything from scratch on your own premises, so there is a benefit to this approach. With games, things can be a little bit different. Games as a service or live service games are ones that have a long tail revenue opportunity. The game itself might cost money upfront, or it could be a free to play title where gamers don't have to spend any money

to access the game initially. A lot of mobile games fall into this category, where downloading the game is free, but players are given incentives to spend money on the game in return for some sort of in game benefit or cosmetic option. Often those games could also be supported by advertising. That's pretty typical in a lot of these games where ads will pop up. We've also heard recently that some Triple A studios have been talking about putting ads into games, and that again is not a new thing.

It's happened in the past, often to disastrous results because generally speaking, gamers are not a big fan of that. But we're hearing Triple A studios talk about that again as a way to continually generate revenue off of a sale, So again it's another potential revenue changing strategy for games. For some games, players actually see a benefit in this arrangement in that the developer will occasionally release new content

and expand the game itself in some way. So there's an incentive to be part of this long tail revenue generation system because the game continues to generate value and you're not just playing the same thing perpetual. The method of extending revenue generation does vary. It could be a subscription service. It might be pay for content where you've got pay walls that block certain types of content and

you can't access it until you have paid. There are even games that kind of get the derisive label of pay to win. Generally speaking, that particular strategy, it's not looked upon favorably by most of the people in the gaming audience. Pay to win essentially just means that you get access to things in the game that give you an advantage over other players, and it's typically something that you would hear about in player versus player type games.

You know you're going up against other humans and you have paid for advantages that can help offset any imbalance and skill you might have against other players. Generally speaking, people hate that, but there are a lot of different options. But the idea itself is not new at all. It's almost as old as video games themselves are. In fact, you could argue that the arcade machine model, which predates the home video game, that kind of falls in line

with games as a service. Right, whether you're traditional arcade machine, you pay to play, and when your play session is over because you know, a ghost gobbled your pacmand three times, or you missed one too many centipedes or whatever, you got to cough up another quarter, or you got to

move along. But while that model would work for companies that made arcade cabinets, or, to be more accurate, it actually worked for arcade owners who would typically purchase an arcade cabinet and then use that cabinet to generate revenue, with the obvious goal meaning being that you know, you make more in quarters than you paid for the machine, and it would just take a certain amount of time. While that same model would prove a little more elusive

for the home market. Initially, the way the home video game market would work is that a video game development company would create a game and then either it would publish that game, or it would work with a third party publisher to do so, to actually manufacture the game and package it and market it and ship it to retailers and then hope that the game sells really well. I'm not going to dive further into that business model. There is more to it than that. It's a little

more complicated, but that's the basic idea. But the important thing with that business model is that we're really just talking about individual transactions. Right. That happened one time someone a customer comes up and buys a copy of the game, and that sale is the one and only transaction between the gamer and the retailer and represents the one purchase

that matters to the video game developer. Now, that gamer might later choose to give their copy of the game away to somebody, or to sell it, you know, used to someone else, or to trade it into a retailer for credit, and the credit would just be a you know, a percentage of what the original value of the game used to be, and then the retailer would go around and sell it for more than that because that's how you make money as a retailer, But the video game

developer and publisher wouldn't see any of that money in those transactions, right. The aftermarket leaves those companies out, so they only get a slice when it's a sale of a new copy of their game to someone. And eliminating the aftermarket was really something that was pretty enticing to video game companies from the get go. Like it's largely been done now because digital distribution is largely the way

that games are distributed these days. There aren't that many versions of games where you're going out and buying a physical copy anymore. Heck, a lot of computer systems don't even have optical drives, so there's like no physical medium you would purchase in order to play on your PC. There are exceptions, obviously, there are games where you can still buy on cartridge based systems and such, but largely we're talking about digital downloads these days. That has really

cut into the aftermarket, but that's fairly recent. Way back in the early eighties, there were already efforts to figure out ways to kind of eliminate the aftermarket, because it sure would be better for these companies if they could convince folks to only buy new copies of the game instead of going and purchasing a used copy at like a flea market or a retailer or something. And it would take some time to essentially achieve that goal, but

there were some early attempts. One of those had its birth way back in the late nineteen seventies, although it would not debut until the nineteen eighties, and it would involve a home video game console called the in television. I'll talk more about that, but first let's take a quick break to thank our sponsors. Before the break, I

mentioned the Intellivision, a home game console. I actually had an intelevision, although the one I had I inherited from a cousin who had just sort of, you know, was going off to college and had given it up. So my Intellivision was not a brand new one. It was already an obsolete console at that point. But I did have probably a couple dozen games, as I recall, although the intelevision controller was like almost like a remote control, and you would have overlays you could slip into it

that matched the games that you played. I remember distinctly that I had overlays for cartridges I did not own, and vice versa. I had cartridges where there was no overlay, and I would have to use trial and error to figure out what the the different buttons did in that particular game. Anyway, the Intellvision was a cartridge based game system, so you would typically go to your local toy store or electronics store whatever you and you go and purchase

a new game. Now, back then cartridges cost about thirty dollars, but that's in nineteen eighty dollars, so if we adjust for inflation, that's around one hundred and fifteen bucks today. So just in case you thought video games are too expensive these days, you know, some Triple A titles start off at seventy dollars a pop. And then go up from there if you want a special edition. Just know that video games have always been expensive, it's just that a dollar doesn't go as far as it used to anyway.

The folks that in television came up with a pretty clever idea. Why not create an add on in which players could subscribe to an ongoing service provided by a local cable TV company so the players could end up accessing encoded games in television would encode the games using the FM band frequencies and send those frequencies over cable lines because the frequencies wouldn't interfere with all the other

stuff that was traveling over cable. The players would be able to connect their intelevision systems up to their cable service using a special adapter. The plug right into the cartridge slot of the Intellvision, so it was like it was an oversized game cartridge with wire that could attach to your cable and to access a game using the service, the player would turn their television to a particular channel.

This would only be available in around a dozen cities in the United States, but they could choose from different video game titles that would switch out each month, So typically there was somewhere between fifteen and twenty games on this I saw different versions of that depending on the source, and I didn't have access to this when I had in television, so I don't really have direct experience with it.

The idea was that you could choose a game available on this service and it would tell the terminal to accept the game code the next time the cable channel transmitted that specific game, so the channel was constantly transmitting code, your terminal just didn't pick it up because the terminal was only waiting for a specific signal based upon whichever

game you wanted to play. And once that transmission started, the terminal would say all right and would download that code into memory on the adapter, and that's where it would live. And it was just in memory, volatile memory, so once it shut off or once you wanted to play a different game, that information would get whited. So you wouldn't have access to this title forever, just for

however long your play session was going. Really so instead of going out and buying a copy of the game and in television, owner could subscribe to the service and pay a monthly fee and then play games that way and again. Because the games were just stored in memory, they weren't permanently part of the player's library. In television called this technology the play cable. Now, this was really forward thinking, but you could argue it was two forward

thinking and it was ahead of its time. Now. According to Stuart Schlay of CED magazine, way back in two thousand and five, in television was only able to secure about three percent of all households that could access this service. So while the Intellivision had a decent install base for the time, like more than two million units were sold by nineteen eighty two, for example, only around six hundred and fifty thousand of those even would have access to

the play cable service. And then of those six hundred and fifty thousand, not that many people took the plunge to pay four dollars ninety five cents per month to actually use it. Now, there were some problems with the business model from the get go, because gamers weren't the only folks who had to cough up a decent amount of money to be part of play cable. Right, you had to buy the adapter, and then you had to

pay a subscription to the service. But the cable television providers also had to pay in order to be able to use this service. They would have to purchase a really expensive computer to run the transmission side of this service because it wasn't provided by Intellvision, So the cable companies would have to pay like twelve grand for these

really expensive and particular computer systems. By nineteen eighty four, in television had decided to unplug the play cable because it just hadn't caught on plus in nineteen eighty four. That's obviously after the video game crash of nineteen eighty three, the home video game market in the United States was in ruins. In other parts of the world it was a different story, but the entire market crashed for the US in nineteen eighty three. It's what would create the

opportunity for Nintendo to kind of resurrect that market. But for all a good year, it was desolation in the home video game space. Computers were kind of taking up some of the gaps. Yeah, it was grim. In television, games had been getting more complex, and that was also part of the problem because the play cable system could only support transfers of up to six kilobytes. So as games were getting more sophisticated, the play cable couldn't keep up.

It physically was limited to six kilobytes of data for these transfers, so if a game required more than that, it would not be eligible for play cable. It just wouldn't work. So, no matter what, the play cable had probably a pretty limited lifespan. Even if the video game market had not crashed in nineteen eighty three, it's unlikely that in television would have kept it going that it would have remained relevant, So it went could put unless you think in television was the only example of an

early go at the games as a service model. Allow me to tell you about the Atari game lie Line from a company called Control Video Corporation. So this wasn't from Atari itself, but from this CVC company, which interestingly was founded by a guy named Bill von Meister, so Bill the Mister. He he also co founded one of the earliest online services called the Source, so really really

forward thinking dude. Similar to the play cable, GameLine was a product and a service that would let Atari twenty six hundred owners connect their console, by this time using their phone line with an adapter that would plug into the cartridge slot of your Attari twenty six hundred and so it was similar to the play cable, but play cable obviously connected to cable. Game Line connected to a phone line, and so gamelines transmissions were over the telephone

system instead of cable TV frequencies. Now. According to Dan Skelton in the Atari Compendium, this adapter cost forty nine dollars and ninety five cents, and that included a year

of service. I'm not sure how much service was after that, but that's not the only fee we'd be talking about, because the way game line worked is that you would get one of these adapters, you'd plug it into your computer and hook it up to your phone system, and when you turned it on for the first time, game Line would automatically dial in to a particular phone line and a computer system, and you would be prompted to register your GameLine system and to create a personal identification

number or PIN, and then you would get to enter whichever game you wanted by putting in a three digit code that correlated to that specific game, and then that game would be sent to temporarily live on the memory of the adapter you were using. The adapter you had, by the way, also required a nine volt battery to remain powered because again it's volatile memory, so if it loses power, then the information and is wiped from the system.

So you wanted to create a pen for every person in your household because, as it would turn out, the service would grant a user unlimited plays on their birthday. So if you made a pen for everyone and the dog in your family, you could use that specific pen to log into the service on the respective person or animal's birthday for unlimited plays. You know, hack the system,

is what I'm saying. Like the play Cable game lines lineup would change month to month, and it would include new games as well as, you know, really the most popular titles that were on the service. They also put out a magazine that informed customers about which titles would become available in the upcoming month. Games could be played only a limited number of times before they would get

wiped from memory. At that point, you could choose to download the code again or access the code again, but it would be for another charge, another fee, and we're typically talking about one dollar per title. So for a dollar you could play titles on the service for up to eight times or so before they would just disappear from your cartridge. The instruction manual for the device argued that the limit was only on game plays, not the time spent while playing, which means if you're really good,

then you could play all night. Because it doesn't matter that it's only for eight plays. You're a master gamer. You're going to breeze through this game and have a great time, and you're not going to die every three seconds. If you were to take a break during your game session, the manual stress that you should only turn off your television, but not the Atari console, nor should you remove the cartridge from the game system or else the play session

would terminate early before all the plays had been exhausted. Now, I'm sure, when compared to arcade machines, which were typically, you know, twenty five cents per play, this could seem like a bargain. You would get twice as many plays as your typical arcade machine for the same amount of money,

eight plays for a versus four. But then I would say for it to be a real bargain, I would argue Atari games would have to be at least half as good as the kind of games you could find in the arcade and as a former Atari twenty six hundred owner, I can assure you the Atari games, even the really good ones, were not as good as what you could find in an arcade. They just weren't, not graphically and most of the time not gameplay wise, even though there were some true bangers on the Atari twenty

six hundred. To this day, I think River Raid and Pitfall are some of my favorite games for my childhood, but I don't think they were better than what you could find in the arcade. Now, this company, CBC, had some hurdles that were pretty hard to overcome, and one of the biggest is that the larger game companies that were making titles for the Atari refused to license their games to CVC so they could carry those games on their service, and this left out a lot of really

important companies like Atari itself would not sign on. Neither did Activision or Mattel or Parker Brothers, and there were some others that held out too, and that kept the library of games that were available on the game line

system pretty limited to games that had less appeal. You know, these weren't necessarily bad games, although I'm sure there were some of those too, but they were not the games that had the best marketing and the largest demand among Atari twenty six hundred owners, so that was a big challenge for game Line. Now, it's possible that these bigger companies were working on their own competing service ideas and that's why they held out. They didn't want to contribute

to a company that would then become a competitor. This is kind of like the Netflix story. Right when Netflix started to stream movies, it started to run into issues getting licensing agreements with different studios because the studios would prefer to hold out and have their own operated service rather than allow their stuff to be carried by a

potential competitor. But the whole thing would become moot anyway, because again, the nineteen eighty three video game crash happened, and a lot of the smaller third party companies that were creating the titles the game Line was relying upon they went belly up. That disaster trickled down to GameLine and CVC itself, so the service did not last much longer.

In fact, you could see why it wouldn't because you suddenly had this glut of Atari twenty six hundred cartridges on the market and they were at insane markedown prices, so you could go out and scoop up a dozen or more cartridges for like twenty bucks, and then you would have the cartridges, you could play the game as many times as you wanted all day, and you wouldn't have to worry about spending a dollar on just eight plays or whatever. So game Line's business model was entirely

undercut by this industry crash. Now, that was not the fault of CBC, and as time would show, the idea of creating a service rather than focusing on just a game would continue to be a goal for the industry. Okay, we've got so much more to cover. We're going to be back after a quick break to thank our sponsors. Okay. So that was the sad tale of the play cable from in Television and game Line from Atari. But there's still more early attempts we could talk about. Nintendo itself

had such a service. It was called the Stela View or Sateleeview, I guess because it's after satellite. But this service was only in Japan and it was during the Super Nintendo Entertainment System era. Subscribers to the Stelaview service would get access to more than one hundred games using an SNS Super Nintendo Entertainment System and add on an adapter that could access these games via satellite as the name suggests, and they could also access other stuff too.

It wasn't just games. You could actually use your SNS to do stuff like read magazine articles and other media, which is kind of cool, Like it really predates the era of consoles, video game consoles becoming media centers, right. Microsoft really stressed that when the Xbox three sixty came out, really the Xbox One, I should say the Xbox One was where the media center stuff really became front and center, to the point where Microsoft kind of alienated the gaming

crowd as a result of that. Anyway, the teleview service only lasted a few years before Nintendo withdrew support for it due to some corporate shenanigans between it and a company called st Giga or I don't know if it's Saint Giga, but it is big S, little t period,

all caps Giga. Anyway, this company operated the actual satellite service and Nintendo in this company got into some corporate disagreements and ultimately Nintendo decided that it was done, and once it left, Giga continued to operate the service for a little while, but without Nintendo's support it was unsustainable. So apparently, even before this corporate relationship soured between the

two companies, the service had a pretty limited rollout. I mean again, it was just in Japan, it wasn't outside of that market, and it was an expensive subscription, so you know, not that many gamers were necessarily in a position where they could even subscribe in the first place. And it also came to a time when the next generation of consoles was coming out, So why would you spend more money to play games on the previous generation's

consoles when a new one is right on the horizon. Meanwhile, competitor Sega created a service that harkened back to the play cable system from in television. They introduced the Sega Channel. So like the play Cable service, the Sega Channel relied upon the cooperation of cable television carriers and Sega Genesis owners could use an adapter to connect to this service through their cable provider, so each month, players would be able to try out somewhere between fifty and seventy titles

a month as options. Various sources disagree on exactly how many titles were available, so I can't give you a firm number. I saw one that said, definitively it was seventy and another that said, definitively it was fifty. Whether these are both true and at different times it was different numbers, I don't know, because I never had a

Sega Genesis, but these games changed out month to month. However, the timing on this launch was terrible because the Sega Saturn debuted essentially the year after Sega Channel went live, and since the Sega Channel was for the Sega Genesis,

the previous generations console, that was not ideal. Plus, the subscription fee was something like fifteen dollars a month, and there was a twenty five dollars activation fee at the very beginning anyway, so not that many gamers were eager to spend a recurring fifteen dollars a month to play games on the previous generation hardware. So just a few

years after its debut, the Sega Channel fizzled out. The strategy for the services I mentioned so far mostly revolved around granting players access to games that otherwise they could just go outside and buy right like. These were games that also existed in cartridge or disc form so you could go to your store and buy a copy. So really these were for people who wanted to try out games but didn't necessarily have the money to commit to

making a full on purchase. It was really a lot like the video rental model, you know, where you would go to a place like like Blockbuster and rent a movie as opposed to going out and buying a copy of it, because you know, you didn't have to go and get a physical copy of that and purchase it. You didn't even need a physical copy at all. You would just download the stuff onto the memory of the

adapter or whatever. But then we would see developers move to create games specifically to tap into a recurring subscription revenue stream and bypass the whole physical copy or having it being available in some other format entirely. They said, well, this model is going to work, but only if we're not making it an alternative to just going out and

buying the game. So we're going to change tracks a little bit, because subscription service and live service these are two terms that are related, but they're not necessarily synonymous. I want to first mention a game called Air Warrior, which I had never heard about until I had researched this topic. Air Warrior was a flight combat simulator game released by a company called Kesmi in nineteen eighty seven. You could argue this was an early MMOG with actual graphics.

So MMO stands for massively multiplayer online and g stands for game. And there's a lot of different MMOs. Right, There's MMO RP, which I would argue are probably the most famous massively multiplayer online role playing games, but there are a lot of games that are massively multiplayer online games. The case with Air Warrior was, you know, it was a game with very primitive graphics. It actually had graphics. It was an early MMO that had graphics that was

pretty incredible. And this is in the late nineteen eighties where not many people even had dial up modems at that point, and those who did often had dial up modems that had a pretty low bad rate, which meant you couldn't make a really, you know, deeply sophisticated game. It just wouldn't be a good experience because the transmission speeds would be far too low. So this was like a monochromatic wire frame air combat simulator. The eighties saw

some really early MMOs besides Air Warrior. Ones that came out before Air Warrior, but those were text based, so they were often dungeon crawlers called MUDs, which stands for multi User dungeon. These are descendants of early text based computer games, stuff like the Old Old Old Zork series or Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy or Leather Goddess of Phobos. Those are the ones I think of when I think of the text based adventure games. Air Warrior was different.

It was a game with real but primitive graphics, and to play Air Warrior, gamers had to subscribe to a service and they paid a fee of around eleven dollars an hour to play this game online. So there was a dedicated but small fan base for this game, not really surprising considering the limitations of the game and the expense that went along with it. The first computer role playing game to really tap into this model was arguably

Never Winter Nights. This debuted as part of America Online's offerings. So AOL's business model was essentially to charge users by the hour for accessing online services. So it benefited the company to create features on their service that were compelling and you know, sticky for lack of a better word, It's really not that different from how social platforms like TikTok and Facebook use algorithmic strategies to keep people on those apps for as long as possible to drive engagement.

It's the same idea, what can we offer that is compelling to our customers so that they keep using our services and drive up the amount of money they owe us in that per hour charging. So Never Winter Nights was part of this strategy. It was based off the Forbidden Realms mythology of the Dungeons and Dragons game. It also followed in the footsteps of some computer role playing games or CRPGs, not Internet based ones, but just computer based ones, like Pool of Radiance. By the way, that

was one of my favorite games as a kid. Pool of Radiance I thought was a truly brilliant adaptation of Dungeons and Dragons rules andthologies, and I loved playing it. AOL initially introduced two different tiers of pricing for game sessions on Never Winter Nights. If it was during an off peak hour, you would be expected to pay five dollars an hour. For play sessions during peak service, that would double to ten dollars an hour in order to

be able to play this game. Later on, AOL would switch the game to be a free to play option in the overall subscription service of AOL, so you didn't have to pay extra just to play this game. It was part of the overall offering, and that moved to free to play is also something we would see a lot more of in the next decade and a half

or two decades or actually three. I am in denial about how long ago the nineteen nineties were because to think about it is really disheartening when I realized how much of my life was in the nineties a decade. As it would turn out anyway, Never Winter Nights would would sun at by the late nineties. It didn't stick around forever. Obviously, AOL itself transformed quite a bit throughout the nineties, so it is no longer an active thing.

There would be other games with the name Never Winter Nights, but they are not directly connected to this early MMO RPG. Also, it wasn't initially that massive, you know, the two MS Stanford massively multiplayer, and at least initially Never Winter Nights. While multiplayer was not massive, I think the servers were limited to around fifty players at a time. Later on, I think it expanded, but it didn't start out as being truly massive, despite getting the name MMO RPG. But yeah, never.

Winter Nights was an early example, and other MMORPGs would follow. There was Meridian fifty nine that was the first MMOORPG with graphics rendered as three dimensional objects instead of just two D icons or sprites. Meridian fifty was a game that had a flat rate subscription fee, so you didn't pay by the hour, you paid by the month, and the servers from Ridy and fifty nine were also limited. They could support fifty players per server, so you could

argue the first M didn't really apply for that one either. Also, if the server you wanted to play on was really popular, you would find yourself unable to connect, which could be really frustrating. You'd have to just keep trying and hope that someone had either quit their play session or lost a connection, and you just take it. But yeah, it was a somewhat of a limited experience and it would only last for a few years before Sunsetting as well.

Lots more MMORPGs would follow. Ultima Online was a big one. I actually remember when Ultima Online launched because I was at a convention and Richard Garriott, the guy who created the Ultimate series, was there and was introducing people to an early build of Ultima Online. So they had an instance running where we got a chance to kind of just see where the game was in development. It was an incredible experience because usually you don't get that kind

of insight. That's a really rare thing unless you happen to be, you know, someone who's already in the industry. Otherwise you just don't get that kind of access. EverQuest was a really big, popular early MMO RPG that depended upon the subscription service. EverQuest two would continue that, but the powerhouse of the entire industry was World of Warcraft and still is World of Warcraft that's still going on today. Obviously, games of this nature didn't stop with World of Warcraft.

It's not like that came out and then you'd never heard about any other MMO RPG. There are others out there. You know, there's Fallout seventy six, which is just you know, a few years old at this point, Elder Scrolls Online, Final Fantasy fourteen, a Realm Reborn, and tons of others exist.

So those games go on and on, with the idea being that players will occasionally get new content that keeps them invested in the gameplay, and in return, they will continue to subscribe to the service, or, in the case of free to play games, they will be tempted to spend real world money on things that will enhance their online experience in some way, and that prospect would find its way into other kinds of games outside of RPGs.

It would also be boosted by a trend toward requiring players to have a persistent Internet connection in order to play the game at all, even a game that did not have some sort of online component to it, and that would complicate things. We'll pick up there in our next episode to continue to talk about games as a service and live service games and why this move is changing the industry. A lot of people feel that it's changing the industry for the worst, that it's not it's

not a good thing. And certainly there are practices within live service games that are predatory and exploitative and just not good for the consumer, and they tend to feel very cynical and crass and short sighted. But there are also ways of doing live service games that even if Ultimately, you're talking about ways to continue to generate revenue from your game. Don't feel predatory. So we're going to talk

more about this in our next episode. We've got plenty of other examples to talk about, and developments and evolution of the business model to take into consideration to kind of see how we got to where we are now and why some people in the industry say stay alive till twenty five, meaning twenty twenty five, because twenty twenty four so far has been a really tough and scary year for people in the games industry. Okay, we're going to wrap up here for now. We'll be back on

Wednesday to talk more about this. And I hope all of you out there are well. I hope none of you are struggling with any concerns about your living because I've been there and it sucks, and I hope that's not the case for you. I hope you're flourishing and doing way better than I am, because I want to see y'all succeed and to just have a wonderful life. That's my desire. Because I'm a SAP. That's it for me. I'll talk to you again really soon. Tech Stuff is

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