Can another tablet challenge the iPad?

where that came from. Really I haven't. I haven't seen it all, but I've seen parts of it. Yeah, Na clause the movie right, that is not where that's from. It has nothing to do with what we're going to talk about today either. Nope, we have done a podcast. Actually, I think we've done a couple really, either directly related to or tangentially related to the Apple iPad. Yeah, we actually talked about it to when we were still doing

Tech Stuff Live, the video show. Um, we talked about it because we were doing news topics and it was trending right about the time we were finishing up that show. Yeah, that was back when it was just a rumored device. And then of course it turned out the rumors were

in fact true, and the iPad hit the market. And you may recall, and we'll talk about this again at the end of the year, that at the beginning of last year I predicted that the iPad would come out, which was correct, but that it would totally flop, and that was about as wrong as you can get. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I read just today, the day we are recording this, that the rate of adoption, according to mp ARE, the rate of adoption for iPad UH users is faster than that of DVD. And of

course they I don't know why. I guess the DVD was one of the fastest adoption rates for new technologies. Um, but yeah, they always they it seems like they always use DVDs as a benchmark. But I think four point five million iPads they said in a quarter, which is pretty significant. Well, you think about DVD d s when they first when the players first hit the market, they

were incredibly expensive. Yeah, they were. Well, it's like a lot of the different technologies to CDs were the same way, right, But the point being that that the iPad can do more than a DVD player could At the time when DVDs first came out, that's true, and the iPad is less expensive than the initial DVD players when they hit the market and far more portable than those initial DVD players as well. But this is not an ad for Apple iPad because they don't need it. Well, that's the thing.

Once you come out with a successful technology, other people will seize the opportunity to come up with a competitor and uh try their hand at the market. And we've actually seen a few of these competitors at the market. Some of them tried to hit the market before the iPad came out, and you don't hear about them very much because they just didn't really make a big splash in the consumer marketplace. So like the Arcos tablets for for example, those are um those are tablets that run

on either Android, Linux, or Windows. They have models that run on each of those operating systems, mostly Android recently, because that seems to be the new approach to tablets, because the tablet form factor is not new, No, not in the least. It's been around for a decade or so. Oka. The only place that I've really encountered the traditional tablets. And when I say tablets, uh, they don't look if you haven't seen these, they don't look like the new

crop of tablets. These are almost full sized PCs. Most of the ones I've seen are essentially a notebook form factor with a screen that will flip over and allow you to fold it back on top of the computer so that it it functions as a tablet. But it's the size it's got, you know, I guess probably around fifteen inch, well maybe not fifteen twelve thirteen screen. It's big compared to these newer tablet and there's there's still a few of those out there, and we used a

lot of medical professions. We saw like the was it Dell that had the duo the duo that's coming out, which is it looks like a netbook computer or a notebook computer. The the screen swivels within the frame, and then you can fold the frame down so the screen is face up and it becomes a tablet. Although as you know, the big problem there is that you've just doubled the thickness of the screen. It's not as lightweight or portable as other tablet form factors. And then you have,

like the Lenovo. You one idea of which may or may not ever see the light of day. It was something that blew me away at CES two and that one again look like a notebook computer, but you could detach the screen and the screen would become a new tablet computer. Back at CS when they showed it off, the entire device, when it was together, the keyboard and

the screen ran on Windows seven. When you detached the screen, it switched to a Linux operating system, and then when you would reattach it, it it would go back to Windows. It would supposedly sink whatever application you were in, so that let's say you're watching a movie, well you might be watching the movie in one movie player in Lennox. When you plug it back in, it would switch to the Windows based movie player and pick up at the

same place where you left off in the film. That's impressive. Supposedly. I did not see it work when I was at CES, but that's what that was the goal. I mean, I think they were still working on the synchronization. And back over the summer of two thousand ten, the word got out that Lenovo was was abandoning at least part of that strategy. Uh, there's now a rumor that it will come out the Lenovo you one will eventually come out. It was supposed to come out in the summer and

it did not. There's now a rumor that it may come out with an Android operating system for the tablet part um. We'll have to wait and see. That would be very interesting to me if that did, because it answers a lot of the problems I have with the tablet form factor. So the question is, now that the Apple iPad is out and it's so successful, do any other tablets have in a shot of the same sort of success or even moderate success within the consumer marketplace?

Or is the iPad a unique device? A few weeks ago we well, I don't know exactly when it's running compared to this one, So I should say earlier we discussed what early adopters are, and for the most part, I would say that a lot of the people who have bought iPads at this point are early adopters or

radio stations using them for promotional purposes. Because there is a there's a radio station in the same building we're in, and I see people on the elevator with an iPad in its box, going downstairs from the radio station, and you know, they'll ask me how to get back to the interstates. So I'm going, okay, so you just picked up your price. I got it. There's almost a meme

about it's kind of fun about iPads being prizes. Yeah, I've seen a lot um, but yeah, I mean that the the iPad actually came out in uh in April of this year, hit store shelves, um, and it's starting to make its way to regular retail stores. Target just announced that it would be carrying it. UM just someone as a matter of fact this past weekend. UM. And Uh.

The thing is, I think I'm not sure that anyone else was anticipating the iPad to be as much of a success as it is, because I think that's part of why, uh, some of them have been so slow

to get a device out the door. But um, in in their rush to announce new products, I think they may have been I think now at this point the people who are developing tablets are on the right track because some of them rushed too fast and came up with sort of half maked attempts, and some of the newer models that that look like they'll be out in the in the coming months, I think may have a shot at at least taking some of the potential market share from the Apple iPad. So let's talk a little

bit about some of those. Uh, the one I wanted to start with is the one I think is potentially the strongest. Okay, which maybe you agree or disagree, But the Samsung Galaxy Tab. As oft the time we're recording this, I would certainly say it probably has the strongest chance. Yeah, there's one other that we'll get to that I think has a pretty good chance as well, but it's hard to say because we know so little about it at

the moment. But the Galaxy Tab is an interesting tablet device. Now, it's it's got a seven inch screen, so it's smaller than the iPad. iPad screen is I think nine point seven inches, so the Samsung Galaxy Tab is a little smaller than the iPad. Uh. And it's it's got it's running the Android operating System two point two, which is in Froyo for those of you keeping score. Uh, that's the that's the most recent Android build as of the recording of this podcast. Now it's um, it's going to

in in Europe. It's got phone capabilities. We learned that when it comes to the United States, those phone capabilities will be stripped out, it will not run. You will not be able to make phone calls on a cellular system using the Galaxy Tab. Now you will be able to use something like Skype, so you can still make calls over the device. It's just it's not gonna have its own dedicated phone number in the US. In Europe

it's a different story. And uh, you know it's gonna have all these other elements, like a sixteen It comes and I think either a sixteen gigabyte or a thirty two gigabyte version, and you can also get a micro SD card to give you up to thirty two gigabytes extra storage. Now that's a big difference between the iPad and the Galaxy Tab. The iPad comes in very specific, uh models, and you can't upgrade the memory on an individual model. If you if you've got the what are

they are? They at sixteen and thirty two and four. So if you've got a sixteen gigabyte model of the iPad and you wanted to increase the memory to thirty two gigabytes, the only option you have is to go out and buy a thirty two gigabyte iPad. You can't upgrade that memory. This this has built the Galaxy tab is built so that you can upgrade the memory yourself. Uh. It also will run flash because Android two point two does UM, so that sets it apart from the iPad.

And it has cameras built into it, which the iPad does not, although we expect the next iPad probably will have. It would shock me if the next model the iPad does not have cameras. Yeah, and I would like to point out too that for those of you who are going to write in and tell us that about the newer developments with Apple related to flash, yes we are aware. For those of you who are not familiar with this um.

Apple announced a few weeks ago that they would permit um people who are using flash to develop applications for the iOS which runs the iPod, Touch, the iPhone and the iPad. They can they can go ahead and do that. They weren't allowed to do that. But it is not the same as opening Safari and running going to a website that uses a lot of flash and watching a flash video or something on it. It's a little different, right like, so if you if you want to make

it a concession. The thing I always run into back when I was back when I still had my smartphone. My smartphone died, so we can have a moment of silence. Anyway. Uh, my smartphone ran Android one point six, which did not was not capable of running flash. So if I went to any restaurant website where the menu was programmed in flash, I could not see the menu. It was very irritating because that was one of the really useful things of a smartphone. You're out, you're out, you want to check

and see what this restaurant's menus like. You don't want to have to actually go to the restaurant to find out, and then you discover that they've put their menu and flash and you can't view it. Very irritating. Anyway, Samson, Galaxy Tab not a problem. You could be able to You would be able to see that sort of stuff. And Uh, in the US, we don't know how expensive it's going to be yet as of the recording of this podcast, it will probably be that information will probably

be available by the time this publishes. But in the UK it was just announced, uh that it will retail for five pounds almost six pounds expensive, right, so uh, and the article I read pointed out that that is seventy pounds more than the highest, uh than the most advanced iPad that's on the market in the UK, So it costs more than the iPad. Now granted, this is an unsubsidized price. As far as I can tell, it's not linked to any particular carrier. So it may be

that there are subsidized versions of the Galaxy Tab. Like if you went to the was it Orange? Is that one of the ones in the UK? I'd say, you go to Orange and they're carrying the Samsung Galaxy Tab and you've got it through them, you might be able to find a subsidized price through them. I don't know because I don't live in the UK, So all your Brits can write to me and tell me whether I'm right or wrong, and maybe I'll pay attention and then uh So, anyway, anyway, the Galaxy Tab I think has

the potential to really challenge the iPad. It's the Android operating system is definitely a different system than the iOS UM. I usually referred to it as you get out of

it what you put into it. Like iOS works, Apple has such a firm grasp on the all the apps that can go into it, and uh and the standards they have to meet in order to become an app for the iOS that the benefit for the consumer is that whenever you get an app, it's going to do what it's supposed to do, or at least there's a very good chance for it, because Apple has very strict about that. Uh, Android, it's more of a coin flip type of situation. Sometimes things aren't gonna work the way

you thought they would because Android wants a more open environment. Well, that means you have more flexibility and more choice, but you don't necessarily the things you choose may not necessarily work the best way right. As with many things, there is an upside in and downside to both models exactly. So, I think the Galaxy table appeal to people who are a little more do it yourselfers than the iPad does necessarily.

Plus the camera I think makes a big difference until the iPad comes out with a camera model, Um that's gonna I mean you think about things like video conferencing, like the FaceTime technology that Apple has designed, that's ideal for something like the iPad. You know it, you'd be it'd be easier to see someone on that screen than an iPhone or iPod touch screen. Um, yeah, you know it. It's a lot of the things that you mentioned about the Samsung Galaxy Tab are common to uh the Android tablets.

Um that I've read about devices even even what I consider regional at least at this point, UM, devices like expansion ports in some cases USB ports. These are things that some of the people have complained about not being on the iPad or even h d M. I out, yeah, exactly that that kind of stuff where you have standard ports like Apple hates standard ports. Apple likes proprietary ports where you have to have connectors in order to to

use that. Not on reproduct, but on many products, you have to have a special pin connector and then uh an adapter or a dock of some sort in order to be able to attach it to other technology. I see what you're saying. I see interesting, Um, But now I was I was thinking specifically two of some of the tablets that were at least not for a while going to see like the we tab in Germany originally called the we pad get it iPad we pad um developed by a company called meg and then I have

to buy wee pads from my puppies. The Olive pad uh in India. Um, these are all devices that are coming out around the world that are using UH Android's operating system. And there's also the Dell Streak, which is weird. Dell Streak kind of walks the line between tablet and smartphone. Now I am totally singing the Man in Black in

my head right because it walks the line. It does walk the line the But the Dell Streak has a five inch screen, which is you know, that's the it's a it's a little too big for for it to be like a smartphone, but it's a little too small for most tablets. It's a weird size. It's interesting that they went with that. It also runs Android one point six. It was one of the things that Jason Heiner was complaining about his review in August of back on zd net.

He was basically saying, it's a little large for a smartphone and a little small for a tablet. Plus it's running an older version version of Android. Yeah. However, from what I understand, Dell intends to upgrade that to frow you by the end of yes. Yes, and it has a it does a Giga Hurts snap Dragon processor, so it's it's got a lot of PEP to it, but the same sort of thing as a lot of smartphones have right now. Uh. And it's got the rear facing

in front facing camera. It's it can hold up to a two gigabytes of memory, and it's SD card that's just memory, not not storage space. Five twelve megabytes from five and twelve megabytes RAM and then two gigabytes of microSD memory. It's got a microst card slot that can allow you to store up to sixteen gigabytes of are Actually I'm sorry, sixteen gigabytes are included with the Dell Streak.

I don't know how much it can it's capable of holding. Uh, and I know what retails for like five fifty bucks, which is pretty expensive when you compare it to again, the iPad. Yeah, you know, when you're looking at the size of it. There are some other things too. Apparently the WiFi built into the Dell Streak is eight or two DOT eleven, B and G not in UM. And it doesn't support flash in the browser at least this is according to the chart. It's Android one point six.

It won't Yeah, yeah, so you know. This is according to a j S Shindies article in PC World India as of October five. Um. But it does. The Dell Streak does have one feature that I think is pretty useful. What's up? And it's not even a software feature, it's a hardware thing. What is it? It's got gorilla glass, yes,

which I think is really awesome. Grilla glass is a very um strong impact resistant from what I understand the form of glass, which is good if you're going to carry around a small device that is easily dropped, as many of us have with them of these things. The Samsung Galaxy Tab may end up having gorilla glass as well. I've read a report on that the and Dell also plans on coming out with a seven inch tablet later in and then possibly come out with a ten inch tablet.

So we it. Maybe it was like Dell is gonna try and pepper this market with devices going all the way down to three inches, which presumably would be a smartphone up to ten inches, So they're really looking and maybe that this is one of those things with strategy of throw everything against the wall and see what sticks and then concentrate on that. Yeah. I think. Um, I think the iPad has proven that some people uh like

the form factor of a tablet. I mean, obviously, we've we've proven that the smartphone is a good size and form factor. So um, I think as far as tablets go, we've reached the point at which the manufacturers are ready and willing to go ahead and give it a try. But we're gonna see a variety of sizes, um and feature sets come out for you know, another probably year, maybe even two years, until people figure out, oh, well

they like this size, that size and that size. And you know, we're only going to make so many of this one size because we can only sell you know, ten thousand of them a year. But you know, it's enough where we can capture part of the market. Based upon what I've heard from my pad users, I would say that the size is less important than the weight. Yeah,

it's a heavy little piece of equipment. Yeah, so I think a seven inch device, if it weighs less than the iPad, if it's less dense, then that might have an advantage. We should probably talk. I'm sorry you're about to say something, well, I wanted before we move on from the Google Android stuff. I think that's something very apparently fairly recent. Um, that's very interesting. Uh, and It came from an article actually, an of view that Gareth Vivas of Tech Grade ar H did with Google's director

of Products for Mobile, Hugo bearra Um. And Google is saying that Android isn't ready for the tablet scene as of right now. Um, they're saying that now I should point out that Google Android operating system. Uh. If you're wondering where froyo comes from, it's frozen yogurt slang. Uh. And they name their stuff after I guess. There are releases after I guess desserts. Would you say, yeah, yeah, they're old desserts like a Claire donut goes and they're

going in alphabetic order. So yeah, the next version is is cupcake. Oh yeah, the next version is gingerbread, and the version after that is supposed to be honeycomb from what from what I understand, but um, basically, uh, Mr Barras said, you know, look, you know, Android is a great operating system, but really the Android market is not ready for devices larger than a smartphone. Um, they're the applic the applications are not there yet, um. And Froyo

is not designed to used on a tablet. But there's a probable probability that Gingerbread the next release will be and probably honeycome, I would imagine if not, you know, Gingerbread, so it I think some of the from what I've read, LG has backed out of releasing UH an Android tablet because of this. Essentially, look, we can't deliver the optimum

user experience. Um. This goes well with the Galaxy Tab though, because it's a you know, closer in size to a smartphone, and the Dell Streak as well, it's very very close to a smartphone size. So UM, I don't know. I think that's not going to UM. I don't think it's going to set the manufacturers back in a big way, but it may be enough of a stumbling block to allow someone else to sweep in. Yeah. Yeah, And were

we going to mention that someone else? I was going to mention, Well, you have something else you were gonna say. The Samsung Galaxy Tab is one of the ones I think as a strong contender. The other one I think that could potentially be a strong contender for totally different reasons is the recently announced BlackBerry Playbook. Yes, I agree with you. The Playbook is another seven inch tablet device.

UH released by RIM. That's Research in Motion, a Canadian company. Ye, and it's Uh, it's closely tied to their BlackBerry platform, although it's it's running a different operating system than the BlackBerry smartphone operating system. Yes, it is one that we don't know much about. I know probably more about it than you do, for reasons which will become clearer to you in about twenty five seconds. You have one? Yeah, see this is apparently No, seriously, you have one? What? No,

I don't have one. I almost had. I almost had a eight. No. Sorry, you're freaking me out there for a reason. Not a tablet. How the heck did you get that? Does this mean the mount user after us? The playbook was announced on September this year. Yes, um, and it will be running on a kernel of software called from a company called q n X. Yes and um. Yeah and this is an Ottawa based company that's been

around for quite some time. But they were acquired by RIM on April ninth of this year, which coincidentally was the day after I bought my iPad. Um and uh. The thing is, for those of you who have never heard of the company, they have been around for quite some time, more than thirty years. Part of that time they were developing an alternative operating system for the Amiga. And uh, this is back when Gateway owned the Amiga. And now those of you are new to the podcast,

I don't know that. I'm a Rabbit. I'm still a Rabbit Amiga fan. Yes, you now, I'm not excited anymore. He no longer has a playbook, he just has an Amiga. Yeah, hey, uh no the uh Unfortunately, the q n X or Qunix guys never really could work with Gateway UM to get the new operating system rolled out, although it was supposed to be really, really promising at the time. We were all excited, those of us who were still in

the Amiga bandwagon. So I had heard of them before, and I was really excited to see that the uh um, this new BlackBerry tablet would be running in the q nix kernel. Um. But again, this is this is a Unix like operating system, not unlike UH Android or the iOS. Well, maybe I should have gone so far as to say not that we wouldn't know so much about the operating system as we don't know much about the UI. That's true,

that's user interface because you're unfamiliar. I'm sorry, I didn't mean in that's because it's not the BlackBerry operating system. This is an entirely new thing, or sort of new thing, at least for BlackBerry users, right, and so it's, uh, let's tell you a little bit more about the tablet itself. So, like we said, it's a seven inch screen. It's got a giga hurts dual core processor in it. I think that's cool. Yeah, so it can dual core processors for

for tablets are a fairly new thing. Uh, it's got a gigabyte of RAM, it's got built in camera, has WiFi. There's no cellular support, at least in the initial playbooks.

The one that they unveiled was WiFi only. It could tether with a BlackBerry device though, So in fact, it seems that the intent of the playbook is to really tie in with the BlackBerry phones, and that you could sink information between your phone and your your playbook and be able to view the stuff that you would get normally on your phone on a much larger screen and

be able to to navigate more quickly that way. And it supports both HTML five and flash, which sets it apart, of course from again the iPad, so the camera and the HTML five and the flash stuff really kind of sets it apart. But there's there's some problems here too. One is we don't know when it's coming out and we don't know how much it will be. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Um, did you did you mention the I was checking my notes to did you mention that it

will it has true multitasking capability? Apparently did not mention that that is a pretty neat featured to one of the things that people have complained about for the iOS for most of its existence. Now that it's starting to roll out to different people, but it's still as of this recording not available on the ipaddle, though I should

have it sometime in November. From what I understand, that's a pretty neat feature that's got and it's it's uh, you know blackberries uh sphere of influences the enterprise market business people, so they are going to be extra sensitive to people who are going to be using this for business.

Although you know, BlackBerry has been waiting in as as Apple tries to make inroads with the enterprise market, Blackberries trying to reach out to consumers, So this is going to have more crossover than past efforts I think, which we look tablets, you look at devices like the Curve and the Storm and the Pearl that they're very clearly

aiming at the consumer market. Well, there are a couple of other os as we should talk about really quickly, okay, because we've now we've talked about the q nexs, and we've talked about UM, Android and UM. But there are other devices that are also out there. There are Windows seven tablet devices, most of which haven't gone very far. There's one that's that I wanted to mention called the Toshiba Libretto. Yeah, I'd heard of it, but I don't

know much about it. It's a dual screen tablet, so it opens up like a book, right, sort of like a certain device from Microsoft itself was supposed to. Yeah, the rumored Courier is what Poltte is talking about, which if you saw the videos for the concept videos for the Courier, they looked really cool, and unfortunately the Courier got um shoved aside. It did not it did, it was not meant to be. But the Toshiba Libretto looks a lot like the concept of the Courier. It has

dual screens. Uh, they're both seven inch screens. It runs Windows seven, It has WiFi, and it has webcams in it. Uh. It has an Intel Pentium processor, snap Dragon or anything like that. Uh. The big problem with the Tshiba Libretto, I would say, is the price. It's that that's really I mean, I think what the iPad really has taught us is that for the tablet form factor, the app model is enough. You don't necessarily need a device that

can run quote unquote full blown programs. The apps tend to be smaller programs, smaller applications, right, They're not like these really advanced ones that you find on on desktop computers or laptops. So the Libretto may have more power than what's necessary. It may not need all that power for what people technically tend to use tablets for. So it would surprise me if it takes off, because that's

expensive and it's going to be more complex. And a lot of people have complained that Windows seven seven is not the right platform for a touchscreen device. There seemed to be some issues with Windows seven and these tablets. Uh. The other os I wanted to mention is web os, Palms, web Os so you may have heard about a device called the HP Slate. Yes, it was supposed to be run the Windows operating Yes, it was supposed to run Windows seven. And well, the Slate kind of gut pulled

off the development train. And now there's another device, which some are calling the Slate and some are calling the Palm Pad, that will be running the web OS operating system. HP of course purchased Palm back when Palm looked like it was going to go away, and so uh A lot of people said, well, the reason why they purchased them was probably so that they could enter the tablet

market using a mobile operating system, much like iOS or Android. Yes, it's I think it's worth noting that upon its release, the new web Os, which replaced the older Palm os um, was received with pretty much from what I saw, a critical acclaim. But it was not a commercial success, at least not as quickly as they wanted it. The problem was that it was an veiled at c e S. Everyone went gaga for it at c S, and it was another three months before we ever saw anything else

about it. And in those three months, enough of the fervor had died down that they couldn't ride that wave, and the palm phones didn't make the impact they were hoping for. Yeah, So this this device, the Palm Pad, is supposedly going to launch in early so early next year. We don't know how much that's going to cost either. So really I think, I think what's going to boil down to can these devices compete against the iPad. It's going to boil down to two different things, and it's

really basic features and cost. Yeah. Yeah, And I think that's one of the cost is one of the things that keeps the uh that's going to keep the netbook market afloat, because netbooks in general have been cheaper than um than the tablets, you know, because they don't have to have the the touch screens, the capacity of touch screens and um. You know, those have been traditionally very expensive and you usually don't have as many features even

as the tablets do. And Tom Merritt and Sarah Lane pointed out to me the other day from the recording of this podcast anyway, that that really the tablet isn't meant to replace any device. It's a supplemental device. So you're always going to have a need for some sort of computer where it's easier to input data. And the tablet is something that you don't may not necessarily need, but you'll find a place where it fits in your lifestyle and then you wonder how you got along without it.

But it's not replacing something you already have. So netbooks are not gonna go away necessarily, as are you know, the other form factors are pretty safe to the question is if these tablets are compelling enough for people to actually go out and buy them. I think, like I said, the Samsung Galaxy Tab has at least a chance, a fighting chance of getting some people to adopt it, especially people who are already familiar and fond of the Android

operating system. Uh. Same with BlackBerry, um the others. They're gonna have to come out with a really compelling, sleek and and uh price efficient model to compete against the iPad. And you've got to keep in mind Apple usually updates their line of products yearly, So the next spring we should see the next if the if the trends follow the way Apple has done things in the past, we should see new iPads next early next year, I would

imagine so, or even announcement late. I would say probably uh I would say probably early January, around the times early January, maybe maybe as late as early February. I think February is when they announced the iPad last time. Anyway, So we'll we'll see. Uh, I'm kind of curious. I I gotta admit the Samsung Galaxy Tab had me interested enough to actually think, well, depending on how expensive this is and whether or not i'd have to have a contract if I bought it, maybe i'd be interested in it.

I'm not sure yet. We'll see. I still haven't convinced myself that I have a place for a tablet in my life, but that doesn't mean that our listeners don't. So I'm curious, listeners, do you have a place for tablet? Do you already own a tablet device, whether it's the iPad or something else. What's your experience been like, or if you're thinking about getting one, what sort of things are you looking for within the whole realm of the tablet? Give us a give us a shout out. Let's know.

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