Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone, Welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and I am an editor and how stuff works dot Com. Sitting across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. I'm driving in my car. I turn on the radio. You want to keep going. I kind of expected you.
I could pull you a little closer, but I'm sure you would say no. I'm going to say no, believe me. That's going to lead into our discussion. But before we get into that, we've got a little, um well, Facebook feedback. Chris just gets so tickled that I do that now. And plus yea, the shouting because because people tell me they missed the old listener male intro. You guys are that listener mail was yeah, a little. The listener mail people are masochists. I mean I'm not. I enjoyed doing
it too. And anyway, let's get to the actual feedback, shall we. Phil left this Facebook feedback, not that Phil, He says, Hey, guys, since fallout, New Vegas is coming out this Tuesday. You should probably do a podcast in the whole series, you know you want to, Uh, we'll fill you're you're right. I mean I love Fallout. I love Fallout three in particular. That's really where I started playing. The series was followed three when it came out for
the Xbox three sixty. But we usually focus on games that have an even longer history than Fallout does, or is something that's complete, or there's been a lot of controversy around it, particularly when you think the game's never gonna come out. But that's not the case. We Fallout New Vegas, and since we don't cover new games, we don't cover news as it were. Uh, we're just gonna have to leave it to the fact that the games
are pretty cool. Also, if you want to annoy Veronica Belmont, you can ask her why she didn't voice the character of Veronica and instead it was Felicia Day because she loves that. Don't tell her I said it. Tell her that Josh and Chuck of stuff. You shouldn't have said it. Um. Yeah, that that's that's funny because we get a lot of
questions now that you mentioned it. Um, now that we don't get so many questions about how to tech people's computer problems, which is good because it's kind of difficult to do that in our In our roles, we we do get a lot of questions about what product is better than another product, or which computer to choose or stuff like that, and it's difficult for us because we don't do reviews at how stuff works dot com. The site doesn't really do review um, you know, entries or
anything like that. Occasionally we'll talk about something on the blogs, but not in not really as a product review, and it's sort of difficult for us to tell you, you you know, which model of headphone to buy or which video game is worth your money. Yeah, I mean, of course we we talked to other journalists and can point you in a ton of different directions as far as quality resource
resources on that. And unfortunately, in this particular case, I've never played any of the Fallout series, although I was aware of it from the very from the very beginning. It was one of those games that I always meant to get to and then never did. It's it's definitely an interesting series and I am eager to play Fallout New Vegas. Actually, my wife last night offered to drive
over and pick up a copy for me. But I had just purchased three new games, and I was like, I can't justify spending that much on yet another new game after I just bought three something. Maybe we can mention it later. You can tell us what you think when you get around to it. Sure, Yeah, that'll be sometime in There are a lot of titles right now. So let's go on to the actual topic of the
day and the today. We're going to talk about autonomous vehicles, self driving cars, right, and UM, I have a I have a little statistic to throw out before we really dive into this. So according to the Texas Transport Station Institute, which does these big annual studies on traffic and and uh, commute times that kind of stuff across the United States. Of course they're big different Texas. Yeah, yeah, don't mess with them, but they do state by state. They don't
they don't constran just Texas. Uh. They calculated using new calculations. Actually, they just came out with a new way of calculating, a new method, a new method, right, a new algorithm relate to to calculate averages that they think will be more accurate than previous ones. Um. But they said that the average annual delay in hours due to traffic in two thousand seven, which is the latest that they had data available, was around twenty nine hours per year. That's
the average. The worst city in the United States. Can you guess do we live in it? No? Where we live in the third worst DC, DC second worst is worse than Atlanta and d C l A. I love l A. Los Angeles. You top out the nation was sixty nine point five hours of delay each year due to traffic. So yeah, almost three full days lost every year sitting in the car due to traffic. Wow. So uh. There are ways that we could address these traffic problems.
The traditional ways you build more roads, which unfortunately turns out doesn't really help so much. Just means you get more people on the road. That's funny because I thought where we were going we don't need roads. Nice. But another method is to try and take the human element
out of the equation. Yeah, you know what, it's it's funny. Um. Long before we came to work for Discovery Communications, UM, I fell in love with a series of articles written by Hannah Holmes on Discovery dot com, which, according to my iPad, they still exist, they're still up there. She did a series called The Skinny On and Uh, one of my favorites was traffic jam ghosts. You know those times when you're you're backed up in traffic on the expressway or you know, even on a regular street, and
you know it's just it's just bad everything. All the lanes are backed up and you're inching along and then suddenly there's nothing there and everybody's driving like normal. Well, as it turns out, that is due to human error. Like one, there was something there at some point, but because people are not all moving at the same rate of speed, um, it takes a while for that that glut to dissipate again. Yeah, there's a that's that's a
very good point because we're not only we're humans. We all have our own reactions in our own way of dealing with things, and uh, and so something tiny can develop into a huge traffic jam. Let's say that. Let's say that the traffic is heavy but moving right. Uh, And you think, well, as long as the road has the capacity to hold the number of cars that are on it, traffic should keep moving. There's no reason why traffic should stop. Until you think, all right, well, someone
taps on their brakes. Now the person behind that car will react in one of various ways, not they just tap on their brakes. If everyone just tapped on their brakes, then you would have a slight slowing, but everything would keep moving. But some people will hit their brakes harder, or they will move into another lane, which will then cause someone else behind them to react. And this is a domino effect, and it will keep going back and
it will cause traffic jams and congestion. Uh. Now, of course, you can always have an event that's much more severe than that, like a crash or uh, some debris in the road or weather conditions or whatever, or ladders in Atlanta, or ladders or you know, or zebras there was the time the zebra got on the highway. At any rate, those things can also clearly cause traffic. But but a lot of it does come from just that initial human reaction to an event that then balloons out of control.
And as far as traffic is concerned, as other people react to that first person's reaction, so it just it becomes a chain reaction or don't react, in which case there's another accident, which right, and and there doesn't even necessarily have to be an accident at all. It could, like I said, just be as simple as someone tapping
on the brakes. So creating an automated driving vehicle in a way, sounds like this could help take care of this sort of problem because the automated driving vehicles are going to react much more quickly than humans can, and theoretically in a way that's going to be safer than just a human like quick gut reaction. Also, they don't get distracted by stuff like the pretty girl in the car next to you, Hey, baby, how are you doing cars?
Or the or say something something on the side of the road, or or the song that came on the radio is the song that you hate the most in the world or you love the most in the world, And so your attention is pulled away from the road for just a little bit while you either you know, try to punch a hole in your radio or you do the chair dance, which I'm doing right now. You can't tell, but Chris can anyway, stop it, okay. So automated cars would not obviously would not fall victim to
these sort of problems. I mean, they wouldn't be like, hey, look at the circuits on that car. Next, Hey, baby, I see you like to driff. Yeah, they don't do that, um unless it's maybe Kit and he's had a little too much anyway, So I don't know how I got off in this goofy tangents, probably as I'm hungry. Um. So, the the that would make this theoretically would make driving safer, assuming that, of course lots of people have these cars.
You take the human error element out. There are other problems that will come into play, and we'll talk about them, but theoretically it would mean that traffic would move move more smoothly and there'll be fewer accidents. In fact, that was a big point that was made recently in a discussion that we'll get to about self driving cars and how they could in theory cut traffic fatalities in half
or more. Now, despite the fact that this has been in the news a lot lately with a venture we will discuss in a minute, this is certainly not a new idea by any stretch of the imagination, right. Yeah. Actually, uh, I came across a great post on Technologizer by Harry McCracken, who kind of did a walk down memory lane with various stories about predictions for self driving automobiles, the first of which dated from nineteen thirty three in Popular Science, sorry,
popular mechanics. Mechanics. Yeah, a lot of the uh. He listed several of them. Um. It seems like they were either in Popular Science or popular mechanics. But the first was Popular Mechanics. Um. And basically it seemed kind of far fetched, at least based on the the UH section. Yeah, I mean they were. They were looking at the fact that you had garage door openers. He's like, well, I mean, if you can automate that, we can get the car to back out of the driveway itself and turn itself
on actually would go the other way. Well, yeah, turns off on them back out. No, it depends what all right, I mean, if you were for we're backing itself out, yes, but I mean you could also there are other things you could have. Yes, you could have some sort of automated sliding platform, yeah, or something like that. So I mean, yeah, that it doesn't seem that far fetched, but yeah, it probably was a little for the time, especially you know, based on the technology they had available to them. And
then the fifties rolled around and everybody got into that future. Yeah, that the same same sort of futuristic optimism them that gave us disney Lands tomorrow Land. That's funny you should mention that you had a feeling I was going to mention this. Didn't you know this was I just randomly decided to say that, right, This is perfectly honest. I
did not know you were going to mention Disneyland. The the long very long term listeners will remember that I brought up a specific episode of the Disneyland TV show from Oddly that's the same year that some of these other articles from Popular Mechanics, Popular Science came out, uh with the Magic Highway USA, right right, right, I remember you showed you showed me that clip. Yeah, yeah, And they had they had all kinds of stuff. Electric eyes would be embedded in the road so they would light
up at night and you could drive on them. And they'll have automatic signs that will tell you know where to go because it knows where you're going. So say you're going to uh Lake Tahoe, it will say, oh, well you want to turn right seventeen miles up ahead, and things like that. They had all sorts of far fetched stuff like it could tell you what the traffic is in your car, so you know where there's a traffic jam up ahead, and your rear view mirror will
be replaced by a camera. Oh wait, there's last two. Actually, uh yeah, but there were there were other things like it did get into the whole thing. While you'll insert a punch card into your car and it will automatically program the route for you, so you so Dad can take a conference call on his video monitor in front of him, or knocks back five or six scotches. Because this is the late fifties, it wasn't that didn't happen
in the Disney Langue. But they also they had the car that breaks up, so mom and the kids go in one direction, that goes in the other direction. So it's, yeah, a little individual personal transports, kind of like the Jetson's. Yeah it wasn't you know that that seems even more realistic than the part where you get to the side of the building and the whole outside of the building lifts you to the level you're supposed to be one to that though, because that idea continued in a little
movie called Minority Report. But we'll get to that. So the other the articles you you alluded to in the there was one in Popular Science called the car that drives itself, and one in Popular Mechanics called this car has electric brains. So this was really the time when engineers were kind of looking at ways to automate a lot of the processes in a car. UM the night one was an interesting one because that was a proposal to embed along highways radio control boxes. Yeah, this is
the one in Popular Science. Yes, yes, so the idea would be to use these radio control boxes to guide cars through various highway systems. Um. The one in Popular Mechanics looked looked at a college professor who had installed a or was designing a car that was going to use um acoustics and gyroscopes and other stuff like that so that the car could drive itself. So these are
two very different systems. And the first one you're talking about creating an infrastructure in which cars would navigate through. The other one is looking at focusing all the technology in the car itself. Yea, And those are two themes that kind of carry through throughout the whole self driving car concept. Yeah. I think that these, uh, these two articles are actually the start of uh. There probably was
other stuff too. But I mean this is probably the era in which people started taking the idea seriously and started looking at realistic possibilities to make this stuff work, because they are still talking about these technologies now as
as methods of handling this. Yeah. Yeah. There was another Popular Science article in nineteen sixty seven called how You'll Drive the Amazing herb Mobile Mobile verb Mobile, And the idea here was that you could manually drive this vehicle when you were, say, going on across country trip, but then whenever you would enter an urban area that had its own infrastructure, you would connect to that and it would become almost like a little individual sub why car,
which again just like Minority Report, Herbie rides again Herbie goes bananas. So the the I've said Minority Report a couple of times the Minority Reports. Steven Spielberg went to Lexus and said, we're doing this movie. It's set in Washington, d C. Tell me what you envisioned cars to be like.
And although we clearly will be in the singularity by then, and thus we will have merged with cars, they went ahead and went with the whole non singularity version um and and their cars were very much the way the nineteen sixty seven article mentioned it was a maglev system in the in the minority report that your car would connect to and it would even allow you to drive up buildings, so you would park your car at your Like, let's say you live in a high rise apartment, you
can actually drive up the side and granted you're not doing the driving the cars doing the driving the car right move up the side of the building to your apartment and you would just get step out of your car to your apartment without having to go to an elevator or anything like that. Literally door to door type stuff makes me think of the The Great Muppet Caper, like where are you going the Happiness Hotel? Where are you?
Where are you staying? Second floor? Oh, I'm sorry, you can only take you was first the lobby because he didn't have that technology anyway, So we could we could talk about the history all day. Yeah, right, So let's let's move on a little bit. We'll we'll head up to recent years, Like let's go to two thousand before we're gonna talk about DARPA Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
Now DARPA has been the genesis of many amazing technological developments, over the years, including a little thing you might know called the Internet. Yes, but then they didn't really have the d They were sort of d less. Yeah, they were ARPA back then, but they're DARPA now. And um.
They issued a challenge back in two thousand two for teams to create self driving cars that would be able to go through a predetermined route, but they would not get the predetermined route until the day of the competition. And uh, it was supposed to be both on road and off road capabilities, and it was a it was a pretty good distance too that they were supposed to go.
This was the two thousand four Grand Challenge. So in two thousand four you had all these teams join uh this uh, this Grand Challenge, um, and sadly none of them successfully navigated the course. Well, um, that was only the first of the Grand Challenges, though they followed it up again in two thousand five and again and believe in two thousand seven, Yeah, and two thou two thousand fives was essentially a new version of the same course.
And that year was a different story. That year they actually had um a couple of teams finish the one that one was Stanford's team And in two thousand seven and I believe six teams completed the course, Yes, six teams, and two thousand seven was different like two thousand four and two thousand five was again like the kind of this. Uh. It started in um in California and ended in uh
uh where was it Nevada? I think, yeah, and then Nevada, So it was it was a pretty long trip and it had mostly there was a little bit of suburban navigation they had to go through, but mostly it was
cross country. The two thousand seven challenge was an urban challenge where the vehicles had to navigate an urban landscape and there were there were cars already on the road that were manned vehicles that had like professional stunt drivers driving the cars, and they were in very well protected you know, roll cage type scenario kind of vehicles that
would simulate traffic. So these automated self driving cars were supposed to be a navigate through an urban setting and be able to go through traffic without having any terrible accidents closed course, professional driver do not attempt, right and uh yeah. Out of the eleven teams that qualified for the actual events, six of them did eventually finish it. Uh not all six finished them within the time limit that was set, but there were six teams that actually
managed to get through. The team that placed first that year was the Tartan Racing team from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and they won two million dollars. Stanford that year came in second place, even though technically they finished the course first, but they they had more little strikes against them for tiny little I think Stanford had a collision. Actually there was one. And when I say collision, I mean, oh no, I'm sorry. It wasn't Stanford. I actually have the note here.
It was Cornell and m I T. They weren't disqualified. They gently bumped sides as they both tried to share a lane, and they that's when people went up to the Cornell and in my two people and said, did you not know that a physical object cannot exist within the same space and time as a second physical object within the same dimension. I'm I'm willing to bet that they knew that already. Well didn't he wouldn't know it
from that, I'm kidding. If you go to Cornell or m I T. I know you're smarder than I am. Right to me, yes, But as anyone who follows racing, nose, trade and paints part of it. Yeah, trading paint. Yeah, wait, way to go. If you play burnout you would be great at this. Um. Yeah, it was funny. I've got this little let me let me read this one little bit that came from the press release of the two
thousand seven Urban Challenge. After strong starts by all the finalists, by midden morning, almost half of the field had been removed from the race for a variety of reasons. Terra Max, a returning crowd favorite, went a ryan a parking lot and was stopped moments before entering the old Commissary building. It was hungry, apparently, So this would be a bad self driving car to be sitting in. If it if it disregards the presence of a building, that is a failure.
No no, no, no please, no no no no no, yeah, and uh. That kind of leads us to even more recent developments. So lots of different engineers are working on self driving cars. It's not just in the United States. There are teams in Italy and Germany. In fact, I was talking to christ before the podcast that a team in Germany has created a self driving passat that is called the m I g MEG because it stands for made in Germany. I still think it could be a
strike fighter. I'm just wondering why it wouldn't be a D for Deutschland. I don't know anyway, So there's a will probably be more letters if it were in German. There's another big company that's been in the news recently for introducing a self driving car program. M hmmm, who could that be. It's not Apple, it's not Microsoft, it's Google. Yeah, Google made the news. Actually, this was one of those
things that was interesting. I had heard a rumor and I won't I won't explain how, but I had heard a rumor that Google was working on something that was mind blowing and unlike anything else they had ever done. And it turned out it was this. That's that was the extent of the rumor I heard. By the way, I had no idea what it actually pertained to until the news broke that Google, and the news broke by
Google blogging about it. It's a big surprise, um. But Google revealed that they their engineers have been working on a new method of self driving cars, and they said that their goal was to quote help prevent traffic accidents, free up people's time and reduce carbon emissions by fundamentally changing car use. And so far their cars which uh it's a fleet of priuses and one al D E T T. According to the Times, Uh, they have logged over a hundred and forty thousand driving miles. Impressive. Yeah,
most impressive Jedi yet. Um there. So how do they do this? While their cars have video cameras, laser range finders, and radar sensors that allow them to to be able to see the traffic, to perceive the traffic that happens to be around them. As for getting around, they rely upon maps that are generated by cars that actually had manned There were manned vehicles, Yeah, I should point out that. Um that well, of course one unlike the DARPA Urban Challenge, Um,
there are actual other cars on actual roads. Although the I believe the police are aware of where they're going and what their plans are. Just to be on the safe side. They want to be on the up and up. And there is a passenger, There is a human being in the car, actually two passengers, yeah, one of the US one no, no, no, there's one who's a driver who can take over the car if necessary. There's some sort of failure. No no, no, no, no no no, it's exactly fix it, fix it, fixis That's how That's
all Fry would say it. Um My wife would love that reference, but she doesn't listen to my podcast. The the other one was a software engineer. So you had two people in the car. Uh that could impact the vehicle. Not literally, but they could They could change the course of the vehicle if it became necessary. Yes, um, And these cars were not low profile. They had very a very large weird rack on top of them that contained
the equipment that allowed them to navigate through traffic. But you know, you look at one of these things and you're like, something's going on there, because that ain't right, you know. I just it looked unlike anything else you had ever seen. And I hope there are no low overpasses as something Google street view cars have found out that antenna it wasn't that well. First of all, they were on press which are not very tall vehicles, so
that helped. But the yeah, it's kind of an interesting thing that this was a project that they've been doing secretly for a while now. Um. And but again they were at least smart enough to let the local police know, because you know, you don't want the police to find out after the fact. I heard that one of them has been involved in an accident, but in that case, it was an accident where the vehicle was rear ended
by another by a manned vehicle. So in that case it was not not necessarily the fault of the vehicle. But I don't know the full details. It could be it could be that the Google vehicle stopped short and didn't give the person behind enough time to react. I don't know the details. I just I had heard before we went into the studio that one of them had
been involved in a minor fenderbender accident. Um and and so without any more information, I can't really say whether it was the fault of the driver or the driver less car. Um. It's an interesting concept. What what's your take on on self driving vehicles? What do you think about it? Well, I'm um, it's funny because this goes back to a to another related topic that Josh Clark and I talked about on Stuff You Should Know way back when I used to be the co host of
that show, like two years plus ago. Now, back when our podcast we're all five minutes long, we talked about personal rapid transport, and this seems very much like that where you you know, you get in your vehicle, you tell tell it where it is you want to go,
and it takes you there. Um. I do think taking the human side out is both good and bad, because in the good sense, if you can regulate everything, get it to the point where everybody is moving at the same speed, the vehicles are talking to one another, so you can say, oh, car number sixteen way on up
a head is breaking, I should slow down. In comparison, you could theoretically cut down on some of their traffic jam problems and uh, you know, potentially cut down on accidents, might speed up drive time as as Google said, um, you know, perhaps cut down on carbon emissions. But at the same time people like to drive. I mean you could you could probably talk to Scott and Ben about at Car Stuff about that, because Scott's talked a little bit about about self driving cars on Car Stuff before.
I should say so, if you have not heard the Car Stuff podcasts, you might want to check those out, because I think they did do as a podcast specifically about self driving cars, and they talk about all kinds of other vehicular stuff too. It's just it's a fascinating podcast. But but you know, people like to drive too. And then a lot of the comments I've seen that are negative about self driving cars are not you know, oh well, you know what about foot traffic, which is a legitimate concern.
Could the cars if the cars talk to each other, they're talking to each other, But you know, the lady walking or dog and listening to music who's really too into her favorite song and not paying attention the car. The car is not going to know what she's thinking. So you know, you can't really take those kinds of unknowns into that. But more than that, I've seen I've seen comments by people who are going to say, but
I like driving my car. Yeah, I think, um, I think this will really I think it'll really come into play more for things like urban driving. And the reason why I think that's because the people who like driving their car are not are also the same people who say they hate traffic. Um, driving your car and sitting
in traffic are two different things. When you're driving, you're sitting. Yeah, I think what you're thinking about driving and driving a car, you're thinking, Okay, you're on the open road and you can you can you know, open it up a little bit and you can take in the vista and really feel the you know what you're how you're the performance of your car is doing that kind of stuff which you don't get when you're sitting in traffic that's just
crawling along on a freeway somewhere. Um So, I think if it's one of those systems where you can take manual control of your vehicle or you can hand it over to an automated system whenever you whenever, that would be the most beneficial. I think those stand the best chance of success, unless it's mandated, in which case I don't see how that works because I mean, you're talking about having to tell people you've got to get rid of this private property that you legitimately own and replace
it with something new. The resistance to that would be phenomenal. Yeah. Well, I do think unlike those earlier articles from ninety three and back at that time, I think we're a lot closer technologically to being to having what we need to make it happen. It's just going to be difficult to overcome. Uh. You know, we've already got sensors that will tell you
if somebody's drifting off when they go to sleep. They could tell where you know, whether there's a lane change coming up and you're in danger, whether you're leaving your lane, things like that. Decent detection, collision detection is well, these things are all very useful. But um, one thing that I think is very interesting was Palm Paul Marks's take on it from the New Scientists, who says that Google is not completely altruistic and wanting to implement this technology.
Oh yes, all right, why don't you explain that and then I'll have an explosion and then we can wrap this up. Okay, Well, you remember a minute ago when I was a few minutes ago now when I was talking about the highway Magic Highway US a video and well, Dad's going to be taking a conference call on his video screen as he's driving. Well, uh, Mr Marks feels
that Google maybe planning something similar too. And if you're not driving, if the danger has taken out of taking your eyes off the wheel to take a conference call or watch a movie or say click on a few AdSense ads, Google would like your eyes on its screen, thank you very much, and not on the road. And let's just take the stress of driving out so that you can be more plugged into the Internet instead. Mr Marks,
this is Jonathan speaking. Um, do you commonly step outside on your porch and shake your fist at the kids and yell at them to get off your lawn? Okay, well you're already a Mr. Grouchy Pants. We already have established this show of the podcast. So at any rate, here's here's here's how I look at this. I know it's easy to look at Google and say it's a mega corporation and therefore anything it does is somewhat suspect.
I mean, we are automatically have an initial innate distrust in these sort of mega corporations, and that's that's a healthy thing to have. We should always maintain that sort of skepticism and ask questions. However, Google is also a company founded by engineers. Engineers, as I have said before, often look at the world as a series of problems that need to be solved in some way. They're not looking at it as a way of making money necessarily,
although that is always nice. They are looking at it as a way of saying, hey, there's this fundamental issue that we face day to day that is somehow impacting our lives in a negative way. How can we solve this so that it no longer has such a negative impact? And it really does come from a wish to make the world a better place. I really do feel that many of the things Google does comes from this desire, right that at least the initial idea, the the the
drive to do it. So to speak to I know, I know as soon as I said it, I knew you were going to do that anyway. So drive to to create these ideas I think comes from a pure intention. Now, Google's a company, so it's in their interest to monetize these ideas and to make money off of them, generate revenue from them. So yeah, ultimately what you get from as the product of this idea is going to be
somewhat sullied by capitalism. It's it has to happen. But without the capitalism, you don't have the money to fund the idea. So I'm not so quick to jump onto Hey, you know why Google is doing this. They're doing it so that they can take money from your pockets by
getting your eyeballs on this advertising. No, I think the reason why Google is doing it is they're saying, you know, we've got this incredible amount of knowledge and expertise at our fingertips, and the world has some serious problems that need to be fixed, and we have the chance to actually make an impact without making impacts. How about we do we do that? That sound good to you guys, Yeah, all right, let's do that. Um So that's my perspective.
I don't think Google is totally blameless. I don't think they're they're staffed by angels. I don't think you hear the angelic choir as you walk through the door of Google yet because I don't think they've got the speakers working. But I don't think that it's all, you know, a nefarious plan to get more money. It looks like you want to drive to Buffalo. Buffalo is where they make splobs. If they have Clippy as your navigator, I will jump out of the car. That's Microsoft though Google. Okay, looks
like you're trying to drive a car. It looks like you're going through the drive through. Would you like to know how to order a big Mac? Alright, With that being said, let's wrap this up. If you guys have any comments or questions about self driving cars or anything else along those lines, maybe you know, let us know what you think. Do you think a self driving car is a good idea? Do you think you would never get in a self driving car? Or why would you be afraid of for your safety? Or is it just
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