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Not Great, Bob!

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The episode covers Anthropic's race against OpenAI for the first major AI era IPO, alongside Amazon's latest innovations in AI chips, models, and agents. It also highlights compelling data on the safety of self-driving cars, arguing for their public health benefits. Finally, the discussion touches on the struggles Microsoft and OpenAI face in monetizing advanced AI agents and the comedic mishap of the "Mad Men" 4K re-release.

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We might soon have the first big IPO of the AI era, and it doesn’t look like it will be OpenAI. Amazon takes another few swings at Nvidia’s dominance. Proof positive that self driving cars really are significantly safer. And the disastrous 4k upscaling of Mad Men.

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Welcome to the Tech Brew Ride Home for Wednesday, December 3rd, 2025. I'm Brian McCullough. Today, we might soon have the first big IPO of the AI era, and it doesn't look like it will be OpenAI. Amazon takes another few swings at NVIDIA's dominance, proof positive that self-driving cars really are significantly safer. And the 4K upscaling of Mad Men on HBO? Not great, Bob. Here's what you missed today in the world of tech.

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Anthropic Races OpenAI to IPO

To learn more, head to memoto.ai slash ridehome. That's memoto.ai slash ridehome. Looks like we could soon have the first big IPO of the AI era, quoting the FT. Anthropic has tapped law firm Wilson Sonsini to begin work on one of the largest initial public offerings ever, which could come as soon as 2026, as the artificial intelligence startup races OpenAI to the public market.

Claude Chatbot, which is in talks for a private funding round that would value it at more than $300 billion, chose the U.S. West Coast law firm in recent days, according to two people with knowledge of the discussion.

The startup, led by Chief Executive Dario Amodai, had also discussed a potential IPO with big investment banks, according to multiple people with knowledge of those talks. The people characterized the discussions as preliminary and informal, suggesting that the company was not close to picking up.

its IPO underwriters. Nonetheless, these moves represent a significant step in Anthropik's preparations for an IPO that would test the appetite of public markets to back the massive loss-making research labs at the heart of the AI boom. has advised Anthropic since 2022, including on commercial aspects of multi-billion dollar investments from Amazon, and has worked on high-profile tech IPOs such as Google, LinkedIn, and Lyft. Its investors are enthusiastic about an IPO, arguing that Anthropic

can seize the initiative from its larger rival OpenAI by listing first. Anthropic could be prepared to list in 2026, according to one person with knowledge of its plans. Another person close to the company cautioned that an IPO so soon was unlikely. OpenAI was also undertaking preliminary work to ready itself for a public offering, according to people with knowledge of its plans, though they cautioned it was too soon to set even an approximate date for a listing.

Anthropic received a $15 billion commitment from Microsoft and NVIDIA last month, which will form part of a funding round expected to value the group between $300 and $350 billion. Anthropic had been working through an internal checklist of changes required to go...

public, according to one person familiar with the process. The San Francisco headquartered startup hired Krishna Rao, who worked at Airbnb for six years and was instrumental in that company's IPO as chief financial officer last year, end quote. Man, the hits just keep coming for OpenAI this week, don't they? And hey...

Amazon's New AI Chips and Models

For NVIDIA 2, Amazon yesterday launched Tranium 3, saying this new AI chip is four times faster than Tranium 2 and can cut AI training and operating costs by up to 50% compared to equivalent GPUs. Quoting the journal, The main advantage at the end of the day is price performance, said Ron Diamond, an AWS vice president and the chief architect of the Tranium chips. He added that his main goal is giving customers more options for different computing workloads. I don't see us trying to...

replace NVIDIA, Daimont said, end quote. Yeah, but perhaps more pertinently, Amazon also announced Tranium 3 Ultra Server, a system powered by those three nanometer Tranium 3 AI training chips. and teased Tranium 4, which it says will work with NVIDIA's chips. Quoting TechCrunch, AWS says the system is more than 4x faster with 4x more memory, not just for training, but for delivering AI apps at peak demand.

Additionally, thousands of Ultra servers can be linked together to provide an app with up to 1 million Tranium 3 chips, 10x the previous generation. Each Ultra server can host 144 chips, according to the company. Perhaps more importantly, AWS says the chips and systems are also 40% more energy efficient than the previous generation.

While the world races to build bigger data centers powered by astronomical gigawatts of electricity, data center giant AWS is trying to make systems that drink less, not more. It is obviously in AWS's direct interest to do so, but in its classic Amazon... cost-conscious way, it promises that these systems save its AI cloud customers money too. AWS customers like Anthropic, of which Amazon is also an investor,

Japan's LLM Karakuri, Splash Music, and Descartes have already been using the third-gen chip and system and significantly cut their inference costs, Amazon said. AWS also presented a bit of a roadmap for the next chip, Tranium 4, which is

already in development. AWS promised the chip will provide another big step up in performance and support NVIDIA's NVLink Fusion high-speed chip interconnect technology. This means the AWS Tranium 4-powered systems will be able to interoperate and extend their performance with NVIDIA's GPUs while still using Amazon's homegrown lower-cost server rack technology.

It's worth noting, too, that NVIDIA's CUDA has become the de facto standard that all the major AI apps are built to support. The Tranium 4-powered systems may make it easier to woo big AI apps built with NVIDIA's GPUs. in mind to Amazon's cloud, end quote. Amazon also released its second-gen Nova AI models including Nova Lite, Nova Pro, Nova Sonic, and fully multimodal reasoning model Nova Omni to limited customers, quoting Wired.

Amazon detailed two improved large-language models, Nova Lite and Nova Pro, a new real-time voice model called Nova Sonic, and a more experimental model called Nova Omni that performs a simulated kind of reasoning using images, audio, and video, as well as text. The new models are being made available today to a limited number of customers.

More significantly, given the importance of its cloud business, Amazon is releasing a tool called NovaForge that will let customers create specialized frontier models by adding their own training data to unfinished versions of the Nova 2 Lite and Pro models.

off-the-shelf AI models like Google's Gemini and OpenAI's GPT, but Amazon's approach lets customers add data at various stages of model training, including the process of building the base model, a stage known as custom pre-training that is normally reserved for large AI labs. Everyone is looking for a frontier model that's an expert in their domain, Rohit Prasad, who leads Amazon's AI efforts, told Wired ahead of today's announcements.

Prasad says that Amazon developed the technologies behind NovaForge to empower internal teams, including those developing Alexa and AI agents to build custom models. This is essentially a new open training paradigm, he says. One customer that has tested the approach is Reddit. which used Nova Forge to create a custom model to identify content that breaks the platform's rules. Fine-tuning a conventional model would not work.

says Reddit chief technology officer Chris Slow, because most models are designed to avoid offensive or violent content entirely, meaning they would refuse to analyze some materials. Slo says that custom pre-training combined with conventional fine-tuning produced a frontier model that is expert at understanding and using Reddit, end quote. Finally, Amazon also has three frontier AI agents.

the Kiro Autonomous Agent, the AWS Security Agent, and AWS DevOps Agent each focused on a different aspect of software development.

Self-Driving Cars Prove Safer

One of the longtime selling points of self-driving cars has always been, look, in aggregate, the robots are probably much better drivers than humans are. And an analysis of Waymo data covering nearly 100 million driverless miles in four U.S. cities seems to bear that out. Waymo cars have far lower crash rates per million miles than human drivers do.

This is quoting from an opinion essay in the New York Times from neurosurgeon Jonathan Slotkin, quote, When compared to human drivers on the same roads, Waymo's self-driving cars were involved in 91% fewer serious injury or worse crashes and 80% fewer crashes causing any injury. It showed a 96% lower rate of injury-causing crashes at intersections, which are some of the deadliest I encounter in the trauma bay.

So far, other autonomous vehicle companies don't report or report incomplete data. Waymo, by contrast, published everything I needed to analyze the data, crash statistics with miles driven that allow accurate comparison to human drivers in the same locations. If Waymo's results are indicative of the broader future of autonomous vehicles, we may be on the path to eliminating traffic deaths as a leading cause of mortality in the United States. Well...

Many see this as a tech story. I view it as a public health breakthrough. In medical research, there's a practice of ending a study early when the results are too striking to ignore. We stop when there is unexpected harm. We also stop for overwhelming benefit when a treatment is working so well that it would be unethical to continue.

giving anyone a placebo when an intervention works this clearly you change what you do there's a public health imperative to quickly expand the adoption of autonomous vehicles more than 39 000 americans died in motor vehicle crashes last year

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AI Agent Monetization Challenges

In the great debate about the possibility of an AI bubble, one of the angles to consider is, are any of these tools compelling enough for people to pay up for? Well, Microsoft especially continues to give us some concerning data points.

quoting the information. Executives at Microsoft and other enterprise software firms heralded 2025 as the year artificial intelligence would be capable of automating tasks that involve multiple steps, such as generating dashboards based on company sales data, but As the year comes to a close, Microsoft has lowered expectations for how quickly it can get customers to spend money on these newer products, known as agents.

Multiple Microsoft divisions, for instance, have lowered how much salespeople are supposed to grow their sales of certain AI products after many of them missed sales growth goals in the fiscal year that ended in June, according to two salespeople in Microsoft's Azure Cloud Unit. It's rare for Microsoft to lower such quotas for specific products, the people said. The change shows how Microsoft is adjusting to resistance from companies

to pay more for AI. Corporate customers have complained over the past year that it's hard to measure the savings from using the technology for tasks like drafting reports on customer spending and sales leads, and that it can be difficult to get the AI to work perfectly in cases where small mistakes can be costly, such as automating finance and cybersecurity tasks. That said, AI has been a major boon.

to Microsoft's business. That's largely thanks to new spending by AI firms such as OpenAI, which has projected it would run about $15 billion worth of cloud service from Microsoft this year, as well as Microsoft's sales of AI software such as its 365 Copilot Workplace tool. and GitHub Copilot Coding Agent. Microsoft itself and other large tech companies

also have gotten productivity boosts from using AI tools internally. But getting traditional businesses to boost their spending on advanced forms of AI hasn't been as easy. For instance, private equity fund Carlyle last year started using Copilot Studio. a Microsoft product that lets companies develop AI to automate tasks like summarizing meetings or drafting financial models based on Excel spreadsheets without needing to write any code.

But in the months after Carlyle started using the tools, its representatives told Microsoft they were having trouble getting the AI to reliably tap data from other applications such as Salesforce's customer relationship management app, which was necessary for some of Carlyle's automation. according to someone with direct knowledge of the situation, and a second person briefed on it. This fall, Carlisle reduced the amount it was spending on the tools, the people said.

Microsoft isn't the only firm adjusting expectations for revenue from AI agents that automate complex tasks. OpenAI, for instance, recently lowered its projections for AI agent revenue by $26 billion over the next five years compared to earlier numbers.

OpenAI expects to make up for that by growing subscription revenue from ChatGPT, which includes some agents, such as Deep Research for creating research reports, as well as from new products, which could include selling ads on ChatGPT, according to the projections.

Though CEO Sam Altman said Monday he was putting off work on ads as well as agents related to health and shopping as the company focuses on fixing problems involving ChatGPT. The challenge of increasing revenue from AI agents has been particularly acute at enterprise software firms such as Salesforce that, unlike Microsoft, don't have the benefit of owning a large cloud server business.

Salesforce and other firms such as ServiceNow have been offering steep discounts to customers that try new agent products to automate workplace tasks like closing IT tickets or onboarding new employees. Other firms, including Amazon Web Services and Anthropic, have been pouring resources into helping customers set up AI applications to run properly, similar to the way consulting firms help their clients. It's not the first time a large cloud and software provider adjusted

regarding how much enterprises will spend on AI, even as sales of chatbots and coding models have surged. Last year, for instance, Google and Amazon tamped down expectations for enterprise AI sales after companies didn't start paying for new AI tools as quickly as they had hoped. but there may be sunshine at the end of the AI agent tunnel.

Brian Spanswick, chief information officer at cybersecurity firm Cohesity, said his company has been testing AI agent features from Copilot Studio and Foundry that can write reports about its customers for salespeople based on internal data Cohesity.

them as well as publicly available information. While agents have failed to deliver on their promise so far, Cohesity is writing code to better connect them to data sources from other applications with hopes of making them work over the next few months. That's what I'm telling my board, he said. Talk to me in three months, and I'll show you the ROI, end quote.

Mad Men 4K Upscaling Disaster

Finally today, HBO Max recently released a 4K upscaled re-release of the TV show Mad Men. But, well, not great, Bob, quoting The Hollywood Reporter. For starters, the Mad Men episodes in 4K on HBO Max were listed out of order and mislabeled, which likely made series creator Matthew Wiener an absolute madman.

but that's nothing compared to an actual edit oopsie in the seventh episode of season one. In Red in the Face, what the episode is supposed to be titled, but was not on 4K HBO Max, A drunk, they were always drunk, Roger Sterling, played by John Slattery, vomits up oysters in the office in front of prospective clients.

In the initial 4K stream that released on HBO Max, a Mad Men crew member was very visibly operating a barf hose behind Sterling in full view of the camera. There was even a second staffer in frame supporting the puke hose tech. That guy would have been a great friend in college. So what happened here? Lionsgate delivered the wrong 4K file to HBO Max, the Hollywood Reporter was told. The non-4K files were fine as delivered.

At the time the story was first published, Lionsgate was working on getting HBO Max the correct files, THR was told. They were then in the process of being swapped out at around 10 a.m. PT on Tuesday, December 2nd. Lionsgate did not immediately comment on the fail.

HBO Max referred THR back to Lionsgate. HBO Max has been heavily promoting its acquisition of Mad Men reruns and especially touted how Mad Men on HBO Max would be the series' first time ever in 4K. The launch was probably not quite how executives pictured it, literally, end quote. I forget if I mentioned this already, but I've been busy turning out even more rad history episodes. I did one on New Jack Swing. I just researched a three-part episode on hair metal yesterday.

And if I get time to edit this afternoon, I'll have an episode out on the U.S. invasion of Granada in 1983. This is what always excited me about this project, the ability to have a range of topics as broad as Guns N' Roses.

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