Anthropic launched to Mythos or Fable. Fable's the main consumer model, but Mythos, there's some details about that as well. More for cybersecurity.
And China's waking up.
China is waking up right on schedule. The AI 27
$295,000,000,000 infrastructure fund of sorts.
Tim Cook took his last bow at Apple's showcase event. This is history on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. Yeah. He needs a 21 gun salute. A 21 I AirPod salute where you throw him into the wall.
Or a 21 nuke.
21 nuke. Really? I don't think so. I think the stock's gonna do great. So this is this is actually fascinating. So the focus of Tim Cook's last WWC was Siri, and reviews are good. They launched a bunch of new features. I think people are gonna be very satisfied with it and all the decisions that they made. Did you know Tim Cook's first WWDC was when they announced Siri the first time, 2011? Woah.
So we can play this clip from Full circle. The first Apple Siri announcement. Listen to what they actually say, how they talk about Siri, then look at where we are today just sixteen years later, fifteen That years
you're gonna be able to talk to technology and it'll do things for us. Haven't we seen this before over and over? But it never comes true. They have very limited capability.
It's crazy.
Just learn a syntax. Call a Dial a number. Play a song. It is such a let down. What we really want to do is just talk to our device. Ask a simple question. What's the weather going to be like today? And get a response. In fact, we don't want to be told how to talk to it. We want to talk to it any way we'd like.
Someone else might ask, will it rain in Cupertino or is the weather going to get worse today or do I need an umbrella today? And your device, in this case your phone, will figure out what you mean and help you get what you want done. That's a feature in the iPhone four s we call Siri. Siri is your intelligent assistant that helps you get things done just by asking.
Pretty crazy.
Called
it. What happened?
But it just took fifteen years for the technology to actually catch up. And so, I think they they launched a, you know, a functionality. When Siri launched, it was the best voice assistant. It was a great experience. You
didn't But have to those it took fifteen years for their technology to catch up.
Yes. But it took thirteen years or twelve years for the technology industry to catch up. And so they're only 10% behind, if you look at it that way. Like, it's been a fifteen year project from that announcement. It's been twelve years for the leading labs to get there.
And so they're three years behind. Feels like an eternity in AI world. Yeah. But it's really only 1010% slower and they wanted to do it their way and and they got there. It is very interesting to me that they're calling it Siri AI because Siri, the whole pitch was AI.
And Siri, the name Siri comes from SRI International, which was the Stanford Research Institute. And it's from SRI International Artificial Intelligence Center. Like, these were Stanford AI researchers who started this company in like 2008 or something like that and grew it and then eventually sold it to Apple as Siri Inc. Acquired October initially released 10/04/2011, fourteen years ago. But do you know what happened the day after 10/04/2011, the let's talk iPhone WWDC where they announced Siri?
Tim Cook was the first this was his first WWDC as CEO. He obviously hands it off to his colleague to introduce Siri. Steve Jobs passed away the next day. Pretty crazy. And so you have this book ending of Siri on both sides of Tim Cook's career where sort of nothing happened in an interesting way, you know? But the stock did fantastically well. His Tim Cook created an immense amount of value but it was this
Lighter, AI faster, stronger.
Look at the stock price. Look at the No.
I'm like, I'm I'm I'm not saying that in a in a negative way. I'm just I'm just
So you have, like, Tim Cook operationalizing the company, making so much money from the App Store, building the business. But at the same time, he just happened to be the CEO during the greatest AI winter ever, basically Yeah. From 2011 to '20 to 2022, 2023 when we started getting LLM, started getting chatbots. And it did take them a few years because they'd lived through a decade of like, okay. So the Siri team, have you guys got it better?
And they're like, not yet. The technology is not moving fast enough. Like, we haven't invented anything new. So we are the best of a very mediocre category. And Siri sort of slowly fell behind.
But even when people say even even if you go back to 2019, pre ChatGPT, pre AI, pre LLMs, and you ask the question of like, is Siri good? People would say, nah. It's not really delivering in the promise of like, talk to your phone, it does whatever. Like, people have the idea of the the c three p o, the agentic computer.
Yeah.
It's not delivering there. It's not like people were switching in droves to Android because Google Assistant
Had a better voice system.
Or Alexa was so much better. Alexa was the same system. I'm sorry. I'm triggering a whole bunch of smart home devices. You're triggering every device.
So during the keynote for at WWC, they whenever the keyword s I r I was mentioned, they took out the four kilohertz, six kilohertz, a few different spaces so it wouldn't trigger the at home devices. Anyway, so they were like sort of behind, but it didn't really matter because they weren't getting their lunch eaten until the dawn of the LLM, the dawn of the chat app, ChatGPT and other apps that came out and became like super powered relative to Siri's capabilities. Today, they're catching up. And it's a very interesting bookend on this on the the Tim Cook era at Apple, where he was incredibly effective, but the technology was just was not at an inflection point at any time during his career, basically, until the very, very end. And, yeah, they got you know, they were a little bit behind the ball.
But ultimately, they did catch up. There are a bunch of interesting other things in here. The facts first we should go through. So Apple spent roughly twelve minutes yesterday detailing the expansion of its child safety and parental control features. This was interesting because it was a notably short keynote.
It wasn't a particularly long keynote. I think they spent like fifteen minutes talking about products and then twelve minutes on parental features. Sort of gives you an idea of where the energy, where the where where the focus is, where they want
to Yeah. Potentially what you were saying yesterday, think people Yep. More and more people are waking up to maybe phones are causing systemic issues Yes. In society. Yes.
I get Brain
ahead of that.
Utility stuff. And so that's what I wrote about today in the TBPN newsletter. Quick on the facts. Child accounts with built in age protections like limiting adult websites and showing age appropriate media. Good.
Ask to browse which asks for the parent's approval before the child can visit a new website. So any so the child can say, Hey, I got to go to this website for my homework. Click a button and it sends a notification to the parent's phone and they approve and they say, Yeah, that's fine. So you can really lock it down. Communication controls allow parents to manage who their child talks to and will ask for confirmation before their child can add a new contact.
Apple also unveiled a new photo editing tool. This is separate, but spatial reframing. So if you don't like the angle of the photo you were taking, you took it over this way, you can, with AI, reframe it so that it's more straight on. This is a very cool feature. I think this is awesome for a few reasons.
One is that it doesn't feel like full gen AI to me where it's like going to slop it up. It's more just like a nice feature that's in the actual camera app photo roll, camera roll. I thought that was cool. And also, this doesn't feel like, Oh, yeah. This is something that every that there was already a startup doing and it was already baked into Instagram and so Apple's just rolling it out and they're like behind the ball.
This feels like the first time I've seen this. It seems really obvious. You could probably one shot this in images or Nano Banana or any of the image models. But it was cool. And it wasn't like, Oh, yeah, this is a startup and they're just like rolling it in. This feels like Apple's DNA of like understanding the technologies and then doing something cool with it and unique was on display here. So I thought it was cool. What was Yeah. Interesting
I think some of the pushback is that a lot of this kind of functionality had been available in other apps, like post production apps. Mhmm. And now bringing this basically, bringing it into effectively the realm of the camera Sure. Where the computer is now the camera. It does feel notable to me.
But but it's so notable how? Like push back? Because there was push back, which was interesting. People were saying that like, this is too much AI.
Like, I just view this I just view this as a as a camera. It's a camera. Yeah. This is a way to capture reality. Sure. And now, in the reality capture device, you can use AI Yeah.
To So Apple has long prided themselves on like what you see is what you get in the camera app. But that started to change with the artificial depth of field, the tone mapping that happens. Yeah. There's a lot of things that you can do.
Yeah. There's a lot of, like, upscaling. And sometimes you see images, people are like, oh, that's AI, but it's actually just upscaled to Apple image.
Yeah. Yeah. Especially if it's low light noisy image, it'll clean all that up. I think it's fine. I you could just not do it if you want to not have your photos reframed.
But it was interesting seeing that that there's a lot of folks that do land in that camp of Apple is the is not going too hard into AI. They're not stuffing AI everywhere and then here's a feature that feels very on the nose in terms of AI. We'll see. We'll see. And there's mixed feelings on the timeline about spatial reframing with some calling it one of Apple's most exciting AI features, while others are expressing concern about the detection direction AI generated imaging is headed.
Because you can I mean, Apple's been mediocre at like the remove trash in the background feature like Gemini or I guess Android AI, like the AI camera on Android devices has been smoking them there? They're probably gonna get better at that. But pretty soon, it's like you take the photo in super low light, it up ress it, camera filter, color grade, spatial reframing, remove everyone else and you get a totally different photo. And I I I think that's fine. I I don't have a problem with that.
But like I understand why people would be
I mean, it's a little bit strange because you're
Just take the normal photo. Just turn off all these features. At
least yeah. No. And I
think a lot of It's an option. You know? Least You can always pull it into Photoshop and just do whatever you want.
Yeah. It'll just be interesting
Put a dinosaur.
We're gonna enter an era Yeah. Where people's memories of their lived experience are different than
The Joe Weisenthal view of the future. Joe Weisenthal got in some hot water because he said that, why do you need to store any photos in the cloud when you could just Yeah. No idea. Guide them all and then on We're not done. Like, show me a photo of my kid riding a dinosaur when he was five. And it just shows you a photo of that. And people are like, that is not the world I wanna live in, Joe. It's very
we're just not that far off from, hey, Siri, your phone's in your pocket. Yeah. And you just have your AirPods in. You say, hey, Siri, make sure to generate some images of of my time at Disneyland today.
Okay. Yeah.
I am interested to see what's gonna happen on Instagram. Yeah. And if there ends up being divide between accounts that that are constantly getting the tag, like the AI tag on Oh, yeah. And people that just say like, nope. No AI ever. Yeah. And and I think I think there will be a pretty clear split.
Yeah. And and and when do you apply that tag? Little spatial reframe?
No. I think Instagram, I think they do the tagging.
But would they for a color grade? Would they cut have
to figure out what the line is, but to
To me me, the spatial reframing to say, make it black and white, does that count?
Spatial reframing is slightly because it's capturing a picture that never existed. Whereas a filter is just sort of like enhancing color.
You know, it's kind of just separating the layers, rearranging them. I don't know. It it's it's clearly like a blurry line. But but it's the blurriest we ever seen. But we could use make
it less blurred.
Yeah. Good. And that's literally what they do because you can see that the the rest of the space is sort of blurry and then it puts together. Tyler, what do think about this?
Yeah. I was just saying I I was kinda surprised that they didn't release more, like, AI detection kind of features Oh, yeah. Around this. Like, I I would imagine that like, I assume there will be some metadata if you do the reframing that says that it Yeah. Used the reframing true. Maybe it's AI. True. But it's like
Yeah.
That's true. Yeah.
Yeah. It's easy. So this was my wildcard topic yesterday. Maybe they'll talk about something related to the fertility crisis or something. And this feels like three steps away from it, but I like the direction that they went for a few reasons.
So we got a bunch of new AI features, especially the new Siri. Technology and UI patterns are mature. We talked about this. So it's easy to for Apple to nail. Also, as I predicted, they're giving Siri an app and the models are strong enough that I expect random hallucinations to be basically completely acceptable from a daily use perspective.
But my wildcard was that something in the presentation loosely would link to the topic of the fertility crisis that Derek Thompson has been covering recently. There was that article in the Financial Times, Are phones causing brain rot or problems? Like, how do you address this? The correlation isn't perfect, for sure. But there's enough evidence that reasonable people are start are starting to put phones in, the probably linked bucket of reasons why there's a modern fertility decline.
It's just one of them. I think Derek Thompson is like, I think it's maybe 30% of the reason, something like that. But what's interesting here is that Apple is not a fear based marketing company. So their execs don't go on podcasts and make freewheeling proclamations about doom scenarios. They identified environmental concerns about fossil fuels and energy use early.
And you cannot find a clip of Tim Cook talking about, like, climate apocalypse. We're all gonna die because the sea levels are gonna rise. That's not He wasn't saying that for years and then figured out how to do clean energy for Apple's data centers. That's not what they did. They just Yeah.
They just worked privately and then started talking about the solutions in their marketing materials. They didn't put the cart before the horse. And it seems like they're doing the same thing here with parental controls, phone addiction. Instead of giving a long speech about how bad endless scrolling can be and how it might lead to a less flourishing life down the road, they only talk about solutions. Parental controls.
Twelve minutes of content in a notably short keynote. I think many parents are very hesitant to give kids smartphones these days. So it's also a good business reason to say, hey, you can buy your kid an iPhone because there are so many controls that you are fully in control. Know what's gonna happen. You're safe with us.
And there's already a whole niche market in these dumb phone devices for kids. There's this watch that has GPS and the ability to call home, but not much else. There's no screens. There's no social media. And so being proactive about building solutions and then only talking about the solutions is just extremely refreshing to me, and I think it's a good move.
Anyway, the timeline was in turmoil, and we'll take you through it after I tell you about Cisco. Critical infrastructure for the AI era. Unlock seamless real time experiences and new value with Cisco. We got Gruber versus Gurman, two of our best friends from the show. We love both of these The
Gurmanator versus the
Gruber. It's rough, but we'll take you through it, what happened. So John Gruber and Mark Gurman, through the timeline in turmoil over the rollout of Apple's new Siri integration strategy, here's the play by play.
Citizen says, again, this all sounds complicated. Just generate your kids.
Generate your kids. Back in March '20 03/26/2026, so four months ago, three months ago, Mark Gurman reported in Bloomberg that Apple plans to open up Siri to rival AI assistants in iOS '27 update. And so that was the headline. He got some scoops, and he says the company is working on developing new tools to allow AI chatbot apps installed via the App Store to integrate with the Siri AI assistant. The chatbots also work with upcoming Siri app and other features in the Apple intelligence platform.
That means, for instance, if you have Gemini or Claude or ChatGPT installed, they'll be able to send those queries to those services within the Siri voice assistant just like they have been able to do with ChatGPT since Apple Intelligence launched in 2024. But as of yesterday, according to John Gruber, Apple has not fully announced exactly that, at least according to John Gruber who says, quote, maybe Apple ran out of time today and will announce this tomorrow. That was yesterday. Maybe they forgot to announce it. Maybe they scrapped the next generation series that existed two months ago and in the last month rebuilt an entirely new next generation series.
I'll bet something like that is what happened. So he's taking shots. He's putting Mark Gurman in the truth zone. But Gurman fired back and said, here's some screenshots of integrations that basically match his original reporting. And so Gurman's saying, no, no.
You can actually go. There's a model picker in the Siri app. You can configure Siri to work with other apps. But there's a deeper question here. I think they're sort of quibbling over like minor leaks and rumors and like the interpretation of these things. I actually think there's like enough of a gap here that it's not totally unreasonable for them for both of their interpretations to be roughly correct. But
Someone in the x chat feels like I'm watching this in two x
Point five x buttons right there, buddy. Point five x buttons right there. I actually don't know if it's on live stream.
This is great. This is this is a feature not a bug. Yeah. I'm sorry, Humble.
You gotta warm up for Deli and every once in while. Okay. Anyway, so
John's on a tear. Let him cook.
I think the core question is about expectations versus reality. There was some hope from hardcore AI users that the Siri button, me, the Siri button would be able to fully remap to their AI model of choice. So you're deeply integrated into ChatGPT and knows a bunch of things about you. You're confident with that model. You know what keywords to use when.
You have the integration set up. You press the Siri button and you wind up getting that model by default. Currently, have to say, hey, Siri, go ask ChadGBT to do this for me. And then it gives you this little pop up with this button. Have to click okay.
Yeah. You're playing telephone.
It's really yeah. You're playing telephone. It's not good. Now, there are screenshots of a model picker drop down in the Siri app, but it's unclear if that resets on some regular cadence, like maybe every query or if it's a permanent change. And I'm sure I'm sure we'll learn more.
Marques Brownlee had an interesting thing that they're calling what was it? Maybe like the new the new operating system is called Golden Gate. And he was saying that like the nominative determinism of calling something Golden Gate is like, it's a Golden Gate in the sense that they are maintaining their gated walls, their garden, and producing endless gold from mining what's inside the gates. It could just be that they like San Francisco. But
I Well, it's just one or the other.
As someone who as someone who loves nominative determinism, I thought it was a fun it was a fun take. Brian McDuff shares exactly what's going on with the cleanup feature, drastically improved in iOS 27. This feels like it might be nano banana under the hood or something fine tuned on that under the hood. It was very rough in iOS 26. There's also this interesting detail that I got more information on the private cloud.
So the private cloud has been extended into Google Cloud. So for AFM, which is Apple Foundation Models, AFM3 this is the third iteration. AFM3 Cloud Pro, which is their reasoning model that's fine tune of Gemini or some trained on Gemini. They say they worked with Google and Nvidia to extend private cloud compute, which they put a bunch of resources into securing and branding, into onto Nvidia GPUs in Google Cloud, while maintaining the same guarantees to protect our user privacy. Apple's been very privacy forward.
They have a ton of trust. People put everything on their iPhones. They're very, very confident in that. And Apple's bringing that, but they're vending it into Google, which is like the advertiser, the the the dangerous one, the one that is listening to you. Not really.
It's actually like Facebook that's more of like a listening one. But back in 2023, I said, with all these incredible advances and conversational AI chatbots, I'm willing to put down a firm prediction. By the year 2043, Siri will be usable. And I think it came true. I I was correct. I think Siri's now.
You haven't been able to verify this yet.
Ahead of schedule. Oh, yeah. It doesn't release yet. It's it's not live for in a couple more months.
Okay. I'm downloading the beta.
Let's go. Okay. At one point, I have to replace
archive of posts.
I know. I know. I I you gotta know this, Laura. At one point, I replaced Siri with ChatGeePN TV, an iOS shortcut.
01/08/2023. Yeah. Early. The most complicated Yeah.
So you go in, and it would and it would and it would take an API key. You would trigger this with a shortcut. You'd say, hey, Siri triggered Siri Pro Mode or something. Or you'd ask Siri Pro Mode a message, and then it would route that to ChatGPT. Before they had the integration, you had to do this manually.
And it and it would you'd have to set all this up. But it was pretty easy to copy and paste that. But important Apple history, Siri was an acquisition. M and A for AI is in Apple's DNA. This was a reminder from last year when Apple met with Mira Moradi, the former CTO of OpenAI, to discuss a potential deal for her new AI startup, Thinking Machines Lab.
The talks never progressed to an advanced stage. What a different fork in the road moment they went with Gemini. But they could have had Thinking Machines Lab inside Apple, all of those incredible engineers and that that talented team. But they would have had to pay through the nose in Apple. You know, Siri was, I think, a couple $100,000,000 acquisition. It was not in the billions.
Yeah. I think was 200.
Yeah. And Thinking Machines would have been 10 or something. It would have been a lot to to actually get Yeah. That deal across based on where they were. Gaussian splatting is coming to Apple Maps. This is very cool. Wow. It looks so much better. Look at this. Wild. Normal Apple Maps know that is what looks good right there. Once it gets the color grade, I like that. I don't know when you would use this. Maybe if you're looking around a town. I don't know. I feel
like this would be very cool if you were in a new city and you were trying to kind of like learn orientation. Right? Yeah. Like let's say you check into a hotel in a city you've never been to before and you can navigate around and kinda get a Or
like you could do this at Disneyland with your AI generated kids and you could pick the particular region of Disneyland that you wanna generate a fake image of your fake kids and then you could post that on your fake social network. And you could just slap it up from start to finish. This one's crazy. The North Korean economy becomes the world's most unlikely success. We've been talking about Pyongyang for a while.
We've been saying a lot of people raise from PIF. That's usually the public investment fund from Saudi Arabia. But if you just tell people I raised from PIF and it turns out it's Pyongyang Investment Fund, you might go to jail because they're sanctioned. But you might be able to sneak it across the finish line. But they are booming. Tyler, you read this story. You you had a you had some takeaways. What did they do? How many Oh, they built 10,000 homes.
Yeah. Which I I believe is more than
Los Angeles.
Los Angeles.
Yeah. How are they beating us?
So they're kinda they're I think I think they read abundance. Right? Yeah. Behind their Thompson's
Yeah. That makes sense.
And it
They got abundance build and then they said, yeah, gotta build housing. I mean, it's like, if they're doing it over there, it's like, what are we doing here? Like, the most sanctioned and locked up economy. But they are making money. They're selling arms to Russia and China. They have lots of nuclear weapons and they're building more by the day. And so they're they're they're on they're on track. Leopold also made it to the front page of The Wall Street Journal. Congrats.
There we go. Claude Fable five is out. Okay. We mentioned it earlier in the show. Bunch of feedback coming in. People on X having have had access to the model for a while now. Dan Shipper
What's the information have against it? They called it a neutered version of mythos. That's like it's sort
think they say
They're framing it as neutered. They're out there framing it as more safe.
Thought it's safer.
It's a safer and more reliable for certain things and probably cheaper. I don't
know. Yeah. Absolutely crushes the benchmarks. Dan Shipper is doing a vibe live vibe check right now. Had access to the model. We will we'll summarize all the posts from today. Get him into
The pricing is $10 per input millions of tokens. $50 of output per millions of tokens. So if you're token maxing, get ready to pay. But the capability
seems But still, yeah, quite a bit seems more
are like talking about like running it for nine hours straight, running it over the weekend for just long long time without getting confused. Very exciting model. Noam Brown had an interesting piece on the implications of large scale test time compute that I thought tied to this a little bit. And there was a very interesting quote in here where he said, frequently when I discuss this, people ask why we don't just evaluate a harness that pushes test time compute until performance plateaus. The problem is that empirically, the plateau is very far out.
Sometimes we may not observe a plateau at all within practical budgets. You can just spend. So Karpathy, Andre Karpathy, saw this in the auto research experiment where the performance continues to improve even after hundreds of experiments. He he goes on to talk about benchmarks a little bit, but at one point, he says that a model might run for longer than it takes to train the next run, which I thought was such an interesting concept. Just this idea that you launch a product, you're running it, and you say, go do a job.
And then before it completes that job, you got the next model ready and released, which is a crazy, crazy world to be living in and something I I don't think people predicted. But more and more compute, more and more inference, more and more reasoning all across the board. Meta launched a workforce academy to train workers to build data centers with five week program, which is free of charge, guarantees a job, follows the recent layoffs of 8,000 employees. This is a learn to weld meme in real life. Forget learning to code.
Meta Platform says it's time to pick up a wrench. The company is starting a workforce academy to train Americans to build its data centers as a skilled as skilled trade workers become sought after commodity. Five week training program in partnership with CBRE and the Associated Builders. And
Tyler Contractors. Has already been accepted into the program Huge news. With a disguise and a fake name. He will be learning to weld.
Huge news.
Huge. That would be fun.
I love
We should consider it. We gotta talk about flock safety. Okay. Can we pull up this video? Right. An admitted criminal discussing the impact of flock Okay. Let's play it. On. Just crime and Samson's throat, period.
That shit ugly, brother. Oh, oh, mama. Nigga, got drunk. I'm a cop.
TBP unsafe. We need to bleep this before we play it.
Okay. We're gonna summarize it for you because I didn't realize that there were so many swear words. But basically, they say, you can't do crime in San Francisco anymore.
And these two gentlemen are are admitting to have previously participated in illegal activity.
Exactly.
And so they are
They're actually say basically
thought leaders.
If you steal a car, a drone will start following you immediately. Yes. And it will just trail you from thousands of feet up. Yes. You won't even necessarily know that it's following you. Yeah. And so they won't So you
won't have a chance to like run away from a cop that finds you because they'll just wait until you're actually parked or stopped and then they'll box you in.
And then the host of the podcast says, so can you even steal a car, run up on your ops and ditch the car after? And they they say no. And so
He he doesn't just say that. He he describes it as the classic steal a car, run up on your ops and then ditch the car. Like, it's a thing that's generally accepted. Not to lay out a bare case for flock, but has anyone considered listening to podcasts where admit where criminals admit to crimes and going arresting them? It seems like there's a
Talk about their methods?
It seems like there's a there's a dearth of these podcast clips, but who knows?
Yeah. I mean, these aren't even just like random petty criminals. They're listed as the gentleman on the left is Yes. One of the most prolific criminals in all of San Francisco. Wow. So presumably, like, yeah, in the police force can just be like, oh, that's interesting tweet.
Just Google it.
This guy's can't even do drive bys anymore. Wow. That that is wild.
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Pat McAfee is negotiating a new deal that can pay him over $60,000,000 a year for from ESPN. This is in The Athletic. Big news for one of our biggest role models. ESPN and representatives for Pat McAfee are discussing an extension to his contract that would pay him more than 60,000,000 per year. Deal's not completed yet.
And if an agreement can be reached, it could be a sliding scale based on his new responsibilities. McAfee, already omnipresent, could be on the air even more with a bigger role in NFL coverage. I'd love that.
And last night, he had a like watch along like on actual TV for the the Knicks game.
That's super cool. Yeah. And and he's been brought into the the college football ecosystem and been a really important voice there. He's 39, two years remaining on his current contract and he's a college game day panelist and has various appearances on other on other programs. The makeup of the new deal would be similar in structure.
ESPN's view the arrangement as a production contract and a separate talent agreement differentiating it from the deals with most of the on air personalities. Host three hour daily show with his crew, the Pat McAfee show. The first two hours are on ESPN. All all three are on YouTube. Very interesting split there. Stay sane out there. Leave us five stars on that podcast and Spotify. Afternoon. Up for a newsletter at tbpn.com. Flashback. See you tomorrow. Goodbye.