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Tax Chats

Dyreng and Hoopeswww.taxchats.org

Taxes touch every aspect of society, including who rules, where factories are built, what people drink, what car they buy, when they have children, and when they die. Scott Dyreng (Duke) and Jeff Hoopes (UNC), two accounting professors, chat about taxes, including current events, with the energy of an over-caffeinated chihuahua. Listening is guaranteed to be far more entertaining than actually paying your taxes.

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Episodes

Tax Robots: A Chat about Tax Automation with Kelly Necessary

Send us a text Jeff and Scott Chat with Kelly Necessary , a Partner at FORVIS , a large public accounting firm. We chat with Kelly about the role of automating routine tax tasks that historically have been very time consuming. We also talk about whether opening envelopes can be mechanized.

Jun 22, 202329 minSeason 1Ep. 100

Chatting about the Pink Tax with Sarah Moshary

Send us a text In this episode, Scott and Jeff chat with Berkeley Professor of Marketing Sarah Moshary about the Pink Tax. Sarah and co-authors have written a paper that systematically examines the issue....

Jun 01, 202321 minSeason 1Ep. 98

Chatting about the Global Tax Landscape with Marna Ricker, EY Global Vice Chair -- Tax

Send us a text In this episode, Marna Ricker , Global Vice Chair -- Tax at EY joins us from the Milken Institute Global Conference 2003 to discuss the global tax landscape. We get Marna's perspective on the OECD's Base Erosion and Profit Shifting Project, the TCJA, and how AI might affect the world of tax practice....

May 24, 202332 minSeason 1Ep. 98

Rich People Who Want to Tax the Rich? A Chat with Morris Pearl.

Send us a text We chat with Morris Pearl, Chairman of the Board of Patriotic Millionaires, an organization of millionaires who, among other policy objectives, are advocating to alter the tax system so that the rich pay more in tax.

May 19, 202335 minSeason 1Ep. 97

Excise Taxes on Firearm Suppressors: A Chat with Silencer Central CEO Brandon Maddox.

Send us a text We chat with Silencer Central CEO Brandon Maddox about the excise tax stamp on firearm suppressors, which is a $200 federal tax introduced as part of the 1934 National Firearms Act. , which is part of the Internal Revenue Code (IRC § 5801 – 5872). We discuss the origins of the tax, its purpose, and how it is implemented today. We discuss the formation of so-called " gun trusts " as legal entities to purchase suppressors....

May 01, 202331 minSeason 1Ep. 96

Paying Taxes with Cash? Jay Zagorsky Did.

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with Jay Zagorsky from the Questrom School of Business at Boston University about his experience trying to pay his tax bill with cash. We discuss the complexities of paying with cash, and the costs that might be incurred if one does not have access to the traditional banking system. Jay wrote about his article here: Can you pay your taxes with cash? One economist did | Fortune...

Apr 18, 202333 minSeason 1Ep. 95

Chatting about Adam Smith's Tax Maxims.

Send us a text In "The Wealth of Nations", Book V, Chapter ii, Adam Smith lays out some fundamental principles of taxation. We discuss some of those principles, and describe how they are still being applied today.

Mar 29, 202335 minSeason 1Ep. 93

Bias at the BBC? A Chat with Andrew Dilnot about the BBC's coverage of tax-related news.

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with Sir Andrew Dilnot , currently serving of Warden of Nuffield College, Oxford, about his experience evaluating bias in the BBC's coverage of tax-related topics. We discuss the complications reporters face when covering complex economic issues. We review the findings of his recent report entitled "Review of the impartiality of BBC coverage of taxation, public spending, government borrowing and debt."...

Mar 15, 202327 minSeason 1Ep. 92

Remembering When The Corporate Tax was Accidentally Cancelled. A Chat with Jim Wetzler.

Send us a text We chat with James Wetzler about the time a legislative mistake accidentally abolished the corporate tax in 1975. This leads to other discussions, including when the New York State Tax Authorities tried to impose sales tax on a kids lemonade stand, the dilemma that arose when the tax authorities seized pornographic videos from a delinquent taxpayer, and the strange situation where an IRS auditor uncovered evidence of a murder. Near the end, we also briefly discuss the deterrent ef...

Mar 04, 202334 minSeason 1Ep. 90

Racial Disparity in Tax Audits? A Chat with Evelyn Smith and Hadi Elzayn about their study "Measuring and Mitigating Racial Disparities in Tax Audits"

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with Evelyn Smith and Hadi Elzayn, two of the seven coauthors on a recent working paper entitled " Measuring and Mitigating Racial Disparities in Tax Audits ." We ask them details about the paper. We find that the unconditional audit disparity between (estimated) black tax payers and (estimated) non-black taxpayers is about 5%. We ask about the conditional disparity. The authors explain that conditional on some factors the disparity remains. We discuss what con...

Feb 15, 202336 minSeason 1Ep. 89

Chatting about President Biden's 2023 State of the Union Address

Send us a text President Biden gave the State of the Union address last night. Scott and Jeff talk about the tax components of the address. They discuss large corporations which pay little in tax, billionaires who pay little in tax, and taxing share repurchases., and "apples and elephants comparisons." Also, Jeff explains why it is impossible for pretty much any taxpayer, let alone those making under $400K a year, to pay a penny more in taxes under any of President Biden's current or former tax ...

Feb 08, 202338 minSeason 1Ep. 88

Tax Disclosure: A Chat with Ryan Gurule of the Fact Coalition

Send us a text In this episode, Scott and Jeff speak with Ryan Gurule of the FACT Coalition about the types of things companies disclose about taxes in their public filings. We talk about what is good and not so good, and we discuss some of the possible changes that might be made. We recorded this episode on November 1, 2022. Later in the year, the Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) announce an update to its " Improvements to Tax Disclosures " project. The proposals are well aligned wit...

Feb 07, 202340 minSeason 1Ep. 87

Tax Credit Markets: A Chat with Bryen Alperin

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with Bryen Alperin about tax credit markets. It is often the case that a company that might earn a tax credit can't use it because it has insufficient income. This creates an opportunity for multilateral tax planning, wherein institutions with large tax bills partner with entities that generate tax credits to take take advantage of tax savings.

Jan 31, 202340 minSeason 1Ep. 86

Re-release: Martin Luther King Jr.'s Tax Perjury Trial: A Chat with Edgar Dyer

Send us a text This episode originally aired on January 15, 2022. Martin Luther King Jr. is the only person to have ever been tried for perjury with regards to state income taxes in Alabama. Jeff and Scott interview Edgar Dyer about the tax perjury trial of Martin Luther King Jr. in 1960. Eddie wrote an article entitled " A Triumph of Justice in Alabama: The 1960 Perjury Trial of Martin Luther King, Jr. " Fred Grey, Martin Luther King's attorney, said of the trial, "No one would have predicted t...

Jan 16, 202334 minSeason 1Ep. 85

Bury your NFT in a Graveyard for Tax Savings: A Chat with David Kemmerer, CEO of Coinledger.

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with David Kemmerer , Co-Founder and CEO of CoinLedger . Our conversation focuses, in part, on the NFT Loss Harvestooor , which is a tool designed to allow investors to dispose of NFTs such that they can claim the tax deduction. The NFT Graveyard is the final resting place of NFTs that were once worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but are now worth essentially nothing....

Jan 06, 202333 minSeason 1Ep. 84

Tax Tune - Away to Pay Taxes (re-release)

Send us a text Away to Pay Taxes (to the tune of Away in the Manger) Re-release (originally released Christmas, 2021) Lyrics by Jeff Hoopes, Sung by Stacey Hoopes Oh Joseph and Mary They were there for a task They came to the city To pay their tax But as they remitted The tax on their worth Oh Mary, a virgin She had to give birth They went to the city By Caesa­r’s decree As taxes touched Joseph They affect you and me When we give birth and when we die How much we work And what car we buy For eve...

Dec 24, 20223 minSeason 1Ep. 82

Tax Tune - I Heard the Bells (of tax reform!)

Send us a text In honor of the fifth anniversary of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act... I Heard the Bells (of tax reform!) Sung to the tune of I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Singing by two of Dyreng's Deductions Lyrics of Jeff Hoopes I heard the tale about the day They passed the law TCJA The rate was high our firms payed much So they were blessed by Donald’s touch The rate brought low that fated day When Congress put out on display That we are strong and we will beat On taxes we will now compete F...

Dec 23, 20222 minSeason 1Ep. 81

New Information on Trump's Tax Returns: A Chat with Daniel Hemel

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with Daniel Hemel about the House Ways and Means Committee " Report on the Internal Revenue Service's Mandatory Audit Program " that reveals substantial information about former President Trump's tax returns. Additional information was revealed in a report by the Joint Committee on Taxation ....

Dec 22, 202230 minSeason 1Ep. 80

Taxing Stock Buybacks: A Chat with Daniel Hemel

Send us a text Scott and Jeff chat with Daniel Hemel, Law Professor at New York University about the recently enacted excise tax on share repurchases or buybacks . Daniel has thought and written about buybacks, for example, here . We discuss buybacks, dividends, and why both progressives and conservatives might be in favor of a tax on buybacks....

Dec 07, 202233 minSeason 1Ep. 79

How do Capital Gains Taxes Affect Stock Prices? A Chat with Doug Shackelford.

Send us a text Scott and Jeff discuss the effect of capital gains taxes on stock prices with Douglas A. Shackelford , former Dean of UNC's Kenan-Flagler Business School. If the capital gains tax rate increases, should stock prices go up, down, or stay the same? Its much more complicated than you might think!

Dec 02, 202231 minSeason 1Ep. 78

Are Craisins Candy? Must have tax information before Thanksgiving

Send us a text Scott and Jeff discuss what constitutes candy, for sales tax purposes, in North Carolina. The discussion ends with the verdict on craisins--are they candy? Scott is quizzed on other types of food and whether they are candy, and, scores a perfect 0/5.

Nov 21, 202224 minSeason 1Ep. 77

Thinking in a Tank about Taxes: Chatting about the Tax Foundation with Daniel Bunn

Send us a text Scott and Jeff talk about Tax Foundation with CEO and President Daniel Bunn . We talk about its missions, where it gets funding, and other tax-related issues. We discuss the pro-growth agenda of the Tax Foundation and note that there could be other legitimate objective functions for a think tank....

Nov 09, 202236 minSeason 1Ep. 75
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