Draft Season: Episode 17- Draft Week Underway

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of breaking down the all twenty two. We have spent the past month and a half basically on tape Heeds Draft Season crawling behind the xes and oh's not doing the mock draft so much, but trying to give you as much of a real insider perspective on how teams of value players, on how they put their board together when the hay is final in the barn, the way teams are going to approach Thursday night and the rest

of the draft through the weekend. And we're gonna have episodes of this podcast that will drop every day this week.

So normally we do them on Tuesdays and Thursdays. The immediacy of the draft now happening on Thursday night, Greg, We're gonna get your material every single day, so you're gonna have new podcast leading up to the draft and also then reaction podcasts to the draft each weekday this week and uh, you know what, we're at the finish line, right, I mean you've said that by the time you get to this point as an NFL team, you might as well even just send your coaches home because the board

is basically set or is there still some tweaking that can happen all the way up until that first card is turned in on Thursday night. Well, I know for a fact, Bob, that a lot of teams did send their coaches home. The coaches were gone last week because boards are done. And I think at this point, barring any new piece of information that's unfortunate for particular player, uh that comes out you know this week leading up to the draft, that pretty much nothing is going to change. Uh.

Let's put it this way. I've not been in a draft room, so I don't know exactly how they do it, but my sense is nothing should change if you're changing now, then you're not really comfortable with your own convictions because obviously the footage doesn't change from the season, the pro days don't change. All the due diligence you've done doesn't change. All this work is done, so really nothing should change

at this point. Having said that, though, there are still a lot of varying opinions of the top guys on the board, and we have done a deep dive into some of the dark horse candidates even for Day two and Day three of the draft, the guys that you really might be able to look like a genius with your friends watching the draft, when all of a sudden you start breaking down a player using great costell stolen information,

and you know, I'm those diamonds in the rough. But let's circle back now to the top of the board. Let's get to some of the biggest names. And I think the most perplexing position is wide receiver, because there are three or four wide receivers that people believe could go off the board, if not in the top ten, certainly in the top fifteen. At the same time, we keep hearing about how incredibly deep the talent pool at wide receiver is. How you should be able to find

a really good wide receiver later in the draft. So, if you have a top ten pick, are these guys, in your opinion, collectively worthy of that type of a reach because you know teams are gonna take them, unless you know, you start to think to yourself, well, you know, maybe I can use my draft capital to back out of the top ten to pick a wide receiver later

on in the first in the second round. How do you break this group down, especially the guys who I think we're going to hear their names called early on Thursday night. Well, I think because this is a different year, and by different year, I mean we're not going to have three or four quarterbacks taken in the top ten. Um, there's going to be I think a wide variance in the way people view the prospects that are considered top five or top ten prospects in this particular draft, because

you can only draft who's in this draft. So I think that the same will be said for wide receivers. Um. I know that many think that the receiver that I have is my number one is controversial, and that's fine.

I've spoken to teams who absolutely agree that George Pickens is the best receiving prospect in this draft now, because he had didn't play last year until the very end, and that was just a select number of snaps, and because of other things that I don't know about, but I'm told about that he may not be that guy.

But I'm starting to get the sense that the way teams think is big play Bob and Jamison Williams, although he may not be ready Week one, when you have game changers, impact players who can score, you know, in some ways, it's the it's the Tyree Hill theory. It's the idea that what are you trying to get accomplished in the NFL. You're trying to get accomplished now on offense, big explosive plays that score, and that forced the defense to have to play you a certain way, and that

makes the defense predictable, and that's what offenses want. So I think as we get closer and again, you and I don't know what's going to happen Thursday night. Of course we don't, but you know, just from conversations I've had and seeing the way through my film study, over the last number of years, the league has evolved. I think the big play, explosive receiver is really of tremendous

value right now. There are guys on this board, though, that have completely different body types, without question, completely different skill sets. They make big plays, but they make big plays happen in different ways. Right Like you said, George Pickens, you think he is and you might be an outlier, but you've got teams in the league that are telling you that they agree with you, that they think that he might be the best pure prospect in this draft.

But the other guys like Garrett Wilson, Chrystal Lave, Drake, London, uh Traylon Burke's, Jamison Williams, John Dotson, all of these guys on a lot of boards are rated up, if not high in the first round, certainly capable of going

in the first round. Do you have a name or two out of that group that maybe you've circled back to and maybe formed a little bit of a different opinion of than when you first looked at them back even six or eight weeks ago when we started breaking these prospects down, because I think wide receiver was one of the first position groups that we tackled, wasn't it. It was one of the first episodes we did. We dug into the wide receivers. Yeah, it's it's not a

matter of revisiting, but just thinking it through. UM. I really like Garrett Wilson quite a bit. UM. I really think that he uses higher level receiving traits UM, and I think he gives you inside outside flexibility. I think that's very important today's NFL because you want to be in a position where you don't have to feel like players have to line up in a specific spot because that makes it easier to defend, you know, and us, of course you have an unbelievably great receiver like a

Cooper Cup who tends to line up in the slot. Uh, probably a higher percentage of the time. But I think that Garrett Wilson, to me, he's about six ft, he's one eight three. You know, maybe you'd like him to weigh a little more, but I think he is the receiver UM that really stands out in terms of how he can be deployed in an NFL offense. And you know,

you mentioned about wide receivers in general. You know, keep in mind that so many teams now are playing out of eleven personnel, meaning they have one back, one tight end, and three wide receivers. The Rams they won the Super Bowl, they played out of eleven personnel over eight of their offensive snaps. So I think the league has really moved in that direction. And you always need receivers, and you'd like to have receivers that you can line up in

different locations within your offense. And Garrett Wilson is that guy. Thinking also about the top ten, and obviously I call Jets games. Two of the top ten picks are owned by the Jets. They have a young quarterback that you know they want to support, and their general manager has not just like surreptitiously publicly gone out and pursued big time wide receivers in this offseason and has not yet been able to add one. There are a lot of Deebo Samuel rumors going on with the Jets right now.

Another team in Carolina, you know they've got good skill guys, but not top end wide receivers. Um they still have Sam Donald. They may draft a quarterback who knows, uh you have you know Atlanta that might be the market for a quarterback. Seattle Lot obviously has made a quarterback change.

Taking a look at the top ten, some of the teams I just ran through, which teams do you think might prioritize wide receiver or might prioritize either going in a different direction, maybe taking one of those quarterbacks go to quarterback be reached for. I mean just the general concept of how the top ten to top twelve fall, because we're wondering if these wide receivers are gonna come off the board. But different teams obviously are gonna have

different ways of approaching the top ten based on their needs. Yeah, and I would think that in the first round, and that's what we're talking about, we're talking about first round players. I would think that your team absolutely needs to prioritize a wide receiver. Um. They drafted one in the second round a year ago, when Elijah Moura player. I like, they obviously signed Corey Davis. He's solid. But I think when you have a young quarterback, there's two things you'd

really like to make sure you do. Number One, you'd like to make sure that your offensive line is solid. And I think they addressed that certainly with Lake and Tomlinson, who'll started guard. And I think they feel very good. You would know better than I being there. Uh, they feel very good about Vera Tucker. Um. I guess Beckton becomes the question mark, but I think you want to make sure that on the outside you have some threats.

So I think they for sure. And then the other team and I believe they draft eighth, and I think they have many needs. But right now, if you look at the Atlanta Falcons, I would bet that you'd be hard pressed unless you're a Falcons fan, to tell me their top three receivers. So I think that they absolutely need to address the wide receiver position, which doesn't mean they'll address it at pick eight, but they there certainly will be a wide receiver at eight that they have

rated highly on their board. I mean, right now, if you look at their wide receiver position, they have Audent eight, Demere Bird, and Zachias Olamaday Zechias. Those are their three top wide receivers right now. Um, unless you want to count Kyle Pitts as one as well, and he probably is to some extent, but that that's their wide receiver trio as there as we speak this week. Bob, that's great co sell on Bobo shoes and the wide receivers. There is such depth of talent at that position, but

still you've got these top end names. Who else might be picked in and around the top ten. If it's not a wide receiver. What position group might bump the wide receivers down? Could be the tackles, could be the pass rushers, could be the corners. And will a quarterback or two sneak their way into the top ten? Will teams reach the teams that need one? Could that happen?

We will straight ahead continue to tell you the top names that you're going to hear called on Thursday night and what teams will be calling those names when we come back on TAPEDS Draft season. Back on TAPEDS Draft season, Bobo Shoes and Greg co Sell, and we just dug into the wide receivers, and it is a strange economy, as we said, with that position group top heavy, we expect, as you said, three or four names to go possibly

in the top ten. But also there's a depth of talent that's probably not true at some of the other position groups that a lot of mock drafts will tell you guys that are gonna go in the top ten. So as you have dug deeper into, let's say start with the pass rushers back about six or eight months ago, maybe last year. Cavon Thibodeau was thought to be the no brainer number one pick in this draft. Now I don't think anyone has him anywhere as being the number

one pick on the board. If it is a pass rusher, everyone seems to be leaning towards Aidan Hutchinson. Maybe it's a tackle, you know, maybe the idea for Jacksonville is, let's protect Trevor Lawrence, the cover corners, the Stingley's, the Sauce Gardeners of the world. We expect to also be drafted very very high. There's only ten picks in the top ten, right we probably just named with the wide receivers, with the ass rushers, with the corners, with the tackles,

not even having gotten the quarterbacks. About twenty possible names. Someone's dropping out of the top ten. So which position group do you think is going to maybe create that early run. Isn't going to be those pass rushers as so many are speculating. Maybe all the way up at the top. You know, it's funny because I think there's a sense that Trayvon Walker is going to go very high. And Trayvon Walker is a very intriguing player because he's not a true edge rusher, but he could become one

over time. He fits more of the mold. And I'm certainly not making a comparison to this particular player who just got into the Hall of Fame. I'm only mentioning him because of the way Trayvon Walker I think would be seen by teens, and that's Richard Seymour. Of course, Richard Seymour just got into the Hall of Fame and he was three d fifteen pounds um. Trayvon Walker is

not three fifteen pounds. He's about to seventy. But if you're thinking about a player that can line up all across your defensive front and has a complete skill set with pass rush traits that are probably still developing and evolving, he's the player. I think when we started talking about this four or five weeks ago, Bob, there was no sense that Treyvon Walker would be in the discussion as a top pick or a top three pick in the draft.

And you I remember bringing up Jermaine Johnson as well, Yes, Hutchinson, Thibodeaux. They got all the headlines, not just Walker. Also Jamaine Johnson, even a David a. Jabo coming off of a major injury, has very unique pass rushing skills, someone that probably could have been a top ten consideration before the injury. But Jermaine Johnson, I mean from your analysis and even some teams you may be talking to, is he still thought of as being maybe the dark Corse candidate to be

the best pass rusher in this class. I think he's a little bit all over the board for people. Um And again I looked at his tape in great detail, so I have my viewpoint based on tape study. He's a player that I really really liked. I think, you know, that's the thing about this draft. I think Jermaine Johnson could be a top five pick, or it could be go between twenty. And I think because of this particular class of pass rushers, I don't think anybody sees one

at the level of a must have. So I think now you're getting into the eye of the beholder team and scheme specific how they plan on deploying that particular player. Um. You know, we've seen someone like Cavon Thibodeaux. Cavon Thibodeau has great get off, He's a powerful man. Um, he does not have great bend when you get to the top of the arc. We talked about the fact that he's not really flattened his rush path kind of pass rusher.

We saw him on tape when you watch the Oregon tape, play inside and beat guards much in the same way Jadeveon Clowney has done well in his career in the NFL because it's turned out he's not truly an edge pass rusher either. So I think it's how teams envision these players within the context of their defense. Even someone like Aiden Hutchinson, who I think is going to be

a very good pro. We saw him move inside at times in the Michigan defense, so I think you're dealing with versatility more than the one guy who is Wow, he is such a good edge pass rusher, we absolutely have to have him. Is there a team in the top ten and a player in the top ten, maybe a team in the top five if these guys you think legitimately the Thibodeaus and Hutchinson's and maybe even the Walkers or Jamaine Johnson's might be in conversation for the

top five top seven. Is there a marriage between team and player in your opinion that makes the most sense. A team that should be targeting a specific guy because he's the right fit for what they need. And as you said, this is a lot of times based on schematic, based on system, based on coach's belief in playing a certain way. What's the best marriage. Do you think pass rusher to team high on the draft? Well, that's a great question. Um, I'd be very curious what the Houston

Texans are going to do. They've got so many needs. Okay, so they're a team that could go in any direction. But we know that love E Smith is their head coach. And what do we know about Lovey Smith? We know that in his career, and he made some adjustments a year ago because he had to. But at his core, what love Ee Smith wants to do is rush for and play coverage. He's been a cover to coach much of his career. As I said, he had just make some adjustments last year because he had to just based

on his personnel. But he would like to rush for now. I'm not sitting here saying because we don't know that he absolutely is going to take a pass rusher, but I think they're a wild card in terms of pass rusher. Obviously many people have them taking an offensive alignment. They certainly need a corner as well, so they're all over the board. It's why they're drafting third. But at love The's core. He wants to be able to rush the quarterback with four you know, so is there a pass

rusher in play for him? I would think there would be. Um, you know, Aidan Hutchinson to me is probably the the I hate to use this word, but people use it the safest because I think he will be a very good pro. Maybe not a dominant pro. You know, there's not He's not t J. Watt when you talk about edge pass rusher, but I think he's a very consistent edge player who you can move inside in your sub fronts. Same question with the tackles, right, you've got a quanto,

he's probably. It seems as we've gone further and further in this draft, and I remember all the way back we had some guests on I think Jeff Hafley actually we brought him on from Boston College, mentioned the quantum thinking he was the best tackle in the draft that he plays with just that nasty. I want to finish you. I want to block you to the wall of the stadium. If you're the guy, that's my responsibility. He's that type of a player. Obviously, there are a couple of other guys, um,

that are in this mix as well. Towards the top of the draft. You've got Neil Um. You know, let's see who else we got on our list too that I want to talk to about Neil. Charles Cross certainly is up there. Um. I guess maybe at second level, like a Tyler Smith. Um. You know there there are guys that I think we're also gonna hear some tackles called up on the top of the draft. So give me a marriage. But you think maybe with the young quarterbacks like the Zach Wilsons and you know, Trevor Lawrences

of the world. I mean, as you said, if you're picking in the top five, top seven, top ten of a draft, you need a lot like by definition, you're a team that needs a lot of different things. But if you have a young quarterback, I would think it has to be very tempting to spend it a pick on a guy to protect him. Well, the biggest question is where do you play him. There are many teams in this league that of Iguannu as a guard not a tackle. Now, I think you can start him at

tackle and see how it goes. But if you put him at guard. You know, there are certain players that came into this league that were drafted high. Brandon Sheriff is a name that immediately comes to mind. He was a left tackle at Iowa. Washington drafted him and immediately put him at guard and he became an All Pro guard. Iguana who has elite size, length, power, and the mindset to play guard. He does not have the ideal traits to play tackle, even though that's what he played for

the most part of North Carolina State. And I believe that more than likely he will he will be drafted as a tackle. But he's a little straight legged, he's a little lower body stiff. He's not ideal for the tackle position. So I am very curious. You know, I mentioned Houston. They obviously need a tackle as well, um, so I don't know how they see Iguana. You could even talk about Jacksonville. We've heard that there's four players that sort of were in the running for their first pick.

They could view Iguana, who as a guard, because they just signed Cam Robinson who will be their left tackle. So but but tackles could start going off the board because you're going to have the top three with the Kwando, Neil and Cross and then you're going to get into the Trevor Pennings of the world players like that who could easily start to come off the board. Corner that's the other position group that seems to be collectively thought

of as being, you know, star driven. In this draft, you've got Sauce, Gardner and Stingley right there, guys that we are expecting to hear their names in the top ten as well. We're starting to run out of spots in the top ten. But it does seem to be wide receiver, multiple guys, tackle, as we said, multiple guys, pass rusher, multiple guys, cornerback, multiple guys. So which teams do you think in the top and are gonna be

looking at Gardner, looking at Stingley? That might be the marriage for those guys specifically, Well, the Detroit Lions need corners and they draft too. Now again, then you get caught up in should a player go it too? In other words, could Sauce Gardner or Stingley go it too? And then people started with oh, that's too high. Well, you know, if you haven't need and I come back

to the conversation we had with Mike Tannenbaum. You know a number of weeks ago with need versus must, at some point you have to line up with players or

you can't play. So it doesn't matter if if let's say Sauce Gardner, Let's say he's the fourth player on your board, but you're the Lions at two and you really need a corner or you feel like you literally can't line up and be competitive, there's nothing wrong with taking him at two, UM, and I think Gardner and Stingley will end up being the top two corners off the board. And then you start to get into how

people think about the Trent McDuffie's of the world. You know, Trent McDuffie's the owner from Washington, and I think I think he's a really good prospect. Um. Now he's got some things in his game that could scare some teams, Bob, So maybe he's not a top ten pick. Even though his tape is really, really good. He's a little shorter

than you like. His arm length is right on the edge of where corners are viewed in this league, because when you get below a certain point, corners are not drafted with arm length below I believe it's twenty nine inches and McDuffie is just above that um. But Trent McDuffie is a really good prospect um. You know. Then you get into his teammate Kyler Gordon, who I think

could also be a first round pick. So corners can go because the reality is, it's interesting we're talking corners and wide receivers because wide receiver and corner they tend to be the two most drafted positions every year simply because of the way the league is going. If you're a defensive coordinator, you never have enough quality corners. Yep.

And it makes sense, and we've kind of tackled the positions where we think multiple guys are going to be drafted potentially in the top ten, top twelve or so. But there are some wild card one offs at certain positions that I want to get to next. Some guys that may be the only guy at their position that gets drafted in the top ten or the top fifteen. But are guys that certainly could throw a monkey wrench into how most people are prognosticating the top ten, top

fifteen will go. We're just a few days away from the NFL Draft. You get a new episode of Tape Heeds Draft season every day leading up to the draft, as well as Friday after Round one. I'm Bobo Shusan with Greg Cosell. And we also haven't touched on the quarterbacks yet, and the quarterbacks are always lurking, even in a bad quarterback draft quote unquote, as you know, a possible wild card, right like guys that could be reached

for guys that could turn into top ten surprises. So we're gonna get to some of the one offs, some of the players we have and spent a lot of time on, and the quarterbacks when we come back on TAPEDS Draft season. Back here on TAPEDS Draft Season, Bobo Shoos of Greg co Sell leading up to Round one of the NFL Draft on Thursday night. Finally at the finish line, finally we're going to actually see some cards

turned in and hear the names called. And Greg, we're gonna do a deeper dive into all of the quarterbacks

coming up in our Wednesday episode. But this is kind of the one off segment, right Like, I'm looking for the guys that you think are going to be wild card players that could appear in the top ten, that haven't gotten as much conversation about them because they're not part of the group of corners, the group of wide receivers, the group of tackles or pass rushers, the guys that we think are all in play in the top ten.

And then there's two other names that I want to bring up specifically that I also think our players we haven't spent probably as much time as we should on because they're kind of one off guys. So if they're was a quarterback, one guy that you think a team might reach for in the top ten and surprise everyone, who do you think that might be. Well, I'm gonna play off your word reach, and I think that player

would be Malik Willis. Now, he would not be my number one rated quarterback in this draft class, but I think the reach is the key word here, because Malik Willis gives you something that coaches now seem to put a higher premium on than ever before, Bob, and that's the ability to make those special secondary action improvisational plays. Now, then you have to decide, and this is where it gets to coach and therefore team specific as to the value of that and the balance between that and being

too able to execute the offense as designed. And and that's the question that is. It's it's not a numerical, quantitative answer to that question. It's very much open to discussion and to one's point of view. But I think there's a sense amongst people, right or wrong, that if Malik Willis would reach whatever his potential, maybe that he has that special quality to do the kinds of things

that help you win in big games. And I'm not I'm not making a direct one to one comparison to Josh Allen because I personally think Josh Allen is the most physically gifted quarterback in the NFL, believe it or not, actually said that a year ago before the season, and I think it kind of played out towards the end of the season. Um, But I think there's a sense that those kinds of plays that a Josh Allen can make, if Malik Willis can get to that point, then you

have someone who's truly special. So he's the quarterback that I think is probably generating the most discussion in draft rooms. We're gonna talk more about Milik Willis in our next episode when it drops, and we're gonna talk about the entire quarterback class because quarterbacks obviously always draw the headlines even in what is thought to be a weak quarterback draft,

and Malik Willis can't he pick it. These are names we've spent a lot of time on and guys that could be reached for and could appear in the top ten. But here's two other guys before we wrap up this episode that I want to bring up. And obviously Kyle Hamilton's has been talked about by some as being worthy of like a top two or top three pick in this draft. Um Robert Salo, of course with the Jets, was asked about whether or not Kyle Hamilton's would just

be too talented to pass up at number four. He did not close the door on that possibility way back when called him a unicorn. Right, So, safety is a weird position. Some teams safety could be the m v P of their defense. Can cover the tight end, can be moved all over the field if in combination with the rest of your defensive parts, you can take that guy and turn him into a true nightmare Swiss Army

knife and put him everywhere. Some team they might just want safety back in center field because their corners might not be very good. Right, Like, you really need to get a guy like that paired with the right team, the right system, and the right personnel. But where do you think Kyle Hamilton's in the end might be kind of a fly in the ointment in the top ten for some of these other you know, position groups where

we're predicting all of these guys to go high. Well, if you take the belief that Kyle Hamilton's is a rare physical talent, which he is. He's six four and an eight to twenty, and he is a do it all safety, okay, he he He has all the needed traits, Bob, to handle all the responsibilities of the safety position in the NFL. And you really hit on an important point.

I personally believe, based on all the tape study I do during the NFL season for the NFL matchup show that safety is a really important position in the league right now. And I think the teams that don't see it that way, and and I'm not saying teams do.

I don't know the answer to that. I don't know the discussions and draft rooms, but I think we've reached the point where it's pretty self evident that safety is a critical position and Kyle Hamilton's can do everything you ask of a safety now it's always easy to say. I love when people say, well, a team has to figure out how to use them. I'm not sure exactly what that means, because he can do everything you want him to do, so you can line him up in

multiple positions. To me, I watched him and he's actually a bigger man. I thought he was very similar to the way I thought of Derwin James in terms of deployment. James is probably twitchier and more short areas sudden, and Hamilton's is more straight line fluid with more range. But James, when you see the way he was deployed in the Chargers defensive year ago, he did everything. Hamilton's is the

same guy. You can do everything with Kyle Hamilton's and to me, that makes him an extremely valuable player who is absolutely worthy of being taken in the top five.

Another player that has been and I think debated back and forth a ton and I'm not sure we did a deep dive into him because we didn't do interior offensive lineman and there may not be but one interior offensive lineman that you and many other you know draft analysts have a really high, potentially high first round grade on but Tyler linder Bob a center right like he's seen and maybe he plays guard, maybe he stays at center. I'm not sure, but we've spent a lot of time

talking about the tackles. I'm not sure I ever got a deep dive from you on linder Bomb and what you think about him? And Hi, you how high you think he might go? Yeah, and I think, look, everybody knows his tape is really good, and then he's a really good prospect. But he blew people away at his pro day with the kind of numbers that you just don't see from that kind of build. So he is a really good prospect. He's a great athlete. He's got

incredibly light feet, great balance and body control. He was a high school slur, so you know he's got core strength. Um, he's the term we like to use that he has is snapped two step quickness. It's really good. He's a great zone run blocker, and he can execute what are called reach blocks, which are extremely difficult blocks to execute in the zone run game, and you need movement and flexibility to do that. And he's really good. To me,

he's a high level center prospect. There have been a lot of comparisons made to Jason Kelsey because they're both smaller centers, but they're extremely athletic. Um Normally you don't think of centers going in the top fifteen. But again, you know, if if you feel that you draft him and he's your guy and you're gonna sign him to a second contract and he's your guy for seven, eight, nine years, I think you feel pretty good about that. Do you think he is worthy of the top ten?

I mean, is he that talented compared to how your analysis breaks down of some of these other position groups and how deep they can be. Well, here's the way I answer that kind of question. And it's always interesting to me when people say a player or a position

shouldn't be drafted in a certain spot. So if you're a team that, let's say, does not have a very good old line, and I guess you could look at a number of those teams in the top ten that fall into that category, and you don't address the old line because people say, well other than tackle obviously, because people say, well, you don't draft a guard or a

center that high. And then all of a sudden, Bob and you've been through this with the Jets, and all of a sudden you get to Week five and one of the reasons your offense isn't very good is because your old line isn't any good. Then that's what the issue is. So the issue isn't what position group do you take in the draft at the end of April. The issue is when you get into this season and you can't pass protect or you can't run block, that becomes the issue. So you can it's always easy to say,

don't draft this position, why do that? But if you then you get to the games and that's the reason you're losing, that's a problem. It's not sexy. But I'll tell you this from firsthand perspective and firsthand experienced. The last time the Jets were any good, they had Nick Mangold at center and they had to Britashaw Ferguson at left tackle, and they drafted them both in the first

round about a decade and a half ago. I mean, keep this in mind, and you were doing the Jets and uh, the year Sanchez his first two years as a starter, Okay, it was two thousand nine and two thousand and ten, they went to back to back championship games with a quarterback that absolutely produced like bottom five, bottom seven numbers at quarterback. The first year, they led the league in rushing because he was there. The second year, I believe they were third in rushing. So again we

consider here and say, well, that's not the NFL game. Now, that's irrelevant. The point is is that if your old line isn't any good and and that's why this year was so strange with the Cincinnati Bengals, and and I don't know how to put that into a capsule yet and maybe no one does, but if your old line

is really bad, it's really tough to play offense. Yeah, I would look at the Bengals as the outlier, and I would look at the example of the Chiefs the past couple of years of when we saw the deterioration of their offensive line and saw Patrick Mahomes running for his life starting in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, and at times this year, and how hard even the most talented quarterback in the league, maybe the most complete package of athleticism, you know, creativity, accuracy, everything

you'd want in a quarterback. You could make the argument your package together and it becomes Patrick Mahomes. If the guys up front aren't effective blocking for him? What what

does it look like? I agree. So that's why it's easy to sit here, you know, and people like you and I and you know, hopefully people like what they hear, but it's easy for people like us to sit here and say things like, well, you don't draft that position at that spot, but you know, I have the opportunity fortunately to talk to coaches, and when you don't have players at certain positions, that limits what you can do, and then you become so much easier to play against,

whether it's on the defensive side of the ball or the offensive side of the ball. There's no question. Look, we're gonna be back tomorrow. We'll have a Wednesday edition of Taped's Draft Season to drop, and it will be time to take a deeper dive into all of the quarterbacks.

Who is ready to step onto an NFL field next season as a rookie, who's a project, who's worthy of a reach, who might be a player that a team might reach for and then find out they might regret that decision if they do make that type of reach. This is a fascinating quarterback class because you know these guys will probably go relatively high. There will be some quarterbacks names called in the first round, but there's a lot of debate about how good this class US may

ultimately turn out to be. So our Wednesday edition with Greg Cosal of tape Heeds Draft Season is going to take that deep dive into the quarterbacks. Thank you for being a tape ped Please rate, please subscribe, and we will be joining you with our next episode dropping on Wednesday, we'll dive into the quarterbacks. Looking forward to that on tapeds Draft Season