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Tangents by Out of Architecture

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Welcome to Tangents by Out of Architecture, hosted by Silvia Lee. We’re highlighting some of our favorite stories from the amazing people we’ve met along our journey. We will hear how they created a unique career path for themselves from the variety of skills and talents they developed in and out of architecture. Out of Architecture is a career consulting firm started by two Harvard-educated professionals interested in exploring the value of their skills both in and out of the architectural profession. We’re here to help you maximize all of the expertise you have honed as a designer to get you a role that fulfills and challenges you. We have the knowledge, experience, and connections to help you put your best self into the market–and reap the benefits.
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Episodes

From Architecture to UX: The Mental Leap That Changed Everything with Redfin's Xinran Ma

In this engaging episode of "Tangents by Out of Architecture," our guest Xinran Ma shares his inspiring journey from a traditional architecture career to the innovative field of product design at Redfin. Our conversation delves deeply into the mindset shift required for career transition, and the strategies Xinran employed to gain experience and build credibility in a new industry. From studying architecture in China and New York to fostering a passion for user experience design, Xinran's story ...

Dec 17, 202446 minSeason 4Ep. 6

From Aerospace to Climate Tech: Leveraging Architecture Skills to Build a Startup with Homeostasis’ Makoto Eyre

Our guest today is Makoto Eyre, cofounder and CEO of Homeostasis , a climate tech startup transforming CO2 into advanced carbon materials like graphite for lithium-ion batteries. Makoto’s story exemplifies the power of curiosity, resilience, and the ability to leverage architectural skills to navigate bold career transitions. This episode explores how interdisciplinary thinking, engineering expertise, and a service-driven mindset can lead to impactful innovation. Tune in to hear how Makoto redef...

Dec 03, 202453 minSeason 4Ep. 5

Redefining Success: From Architecture to Web Development with CACI's Danny Rupp

Danny Rupp (he/him) is a web development team lead who has been lucky enough to work-from-home in Maryland since 2010. With a bachelor's degree in Architecture from the University of Maryland he started his career as an architectural designer, but slowly transitioned on the job into working as a full stack web developer on software for office space planning. In 2020 he made the jump out of architecture and into full time web development as a Drupal developer and team lead. In this enriching epis...

Sep 24, 202452 minSeason 4Ep. 4

Architects' Unique Skills and Their Success in Tech with Ocado Group's Ramesh Pari

Our guest today is Ramesh Pari, Head of Design + BIM at Ocado Group. He highlights the importance of pragmatism, lifelong learning, and leveraging architectural skills in new ways. This episode explores the dynamics of tech culture, the benefits of cross-industry skills, and the courage needed to pursue fulfilling career changes. Tune in to gain insights on balancing professional aspirations with personal growth. Ramesh is a prime example of how career pivots can lead to incredible success. Afte...

Sep 10, 202451 minSeason 4Ep. 3

Designing a New Path: Transitioning from Architecture to UX with OOA's Adrian Maldonado

Adrian Maldonado, Career Advisor at Out of Architecture, is a seasoned professional with a background in architecture who made a successful transition into the field of UX design. With a passion for design and a knack for problem-solving, Adrian brings a unique perspective to his role as a lead UX designer. He is dedicated to helping individuals navigate career transitions, leveraging his experience to guide others towards fulfilling and meaningful professional paths. Highlights: The importance ...

Aug 27, 202443 minSeason 4Ep. 2

Navigating Career Transitions and Identity in Architecture with OOA's Jacki Schaefer

In this episode, Jacki Schaefer shares her journey in architecture, highlighting the challenges faced during her career, the importance of job security, and the impact of curiosity on personal and professional growth. She discusses the value of architecture education in developing critical thinking skills and self-awareness. Jacki emphasizes the need for individuals to align their career choices with their values and passions for long-term fulfilment. Key insights include reflections on the arch...

Aug 13, 202451 minSeason 4Ep. 1

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Jul 30, 20241 minSeason 3Ep. 19

A Passion for Listening, Learning & Helping with OOA's Nate Steinrueck

Our guest today, Nate Steinrueck, Product Strategist at Outer Labs, shares his journey from studying anthropology to working in architecture and eventually transitioning into the tech industry. He emphasizes the importance of being a good listener, learner, and helper in his work, and how these qualities have shaped his career. Nate also discusses the similarities between architecture and product strategy, highlighting the value of problem-solving and effective communication in both fields. He o...

Jul 16, 202456 minSeason 3Ep. 18

Making Your Own Path In Architecture with Matter's Erin Pellegrino

On this episode of Tangents, Erin Pellegrino, Principal at Matter, and Co-Founder of Out of Architecture, shares her journey of balancing making and thinking in architecture, leading to a fulfilling and impactful career. From rebellious tomboy to successful architect, she discusses her approach to challenging the status quo and overcoming roadblocks by adopting a mindset of perseverance and continuous improvement. Erin's stories of building an Alpine shelter in the Alps and transforming a mid-ce...

Jul 02, 202445 minSeason 3Ep. 17

Having Confidence in Your Skills and Experiences with Adidas's Jake Rudin

Our guest today is Jake Rudin, Senior Manager Digital Technologies at Adidas, and Co-Founder of Out of Architecture. In this episode, Jake Rudin discusses his journey from architecture to leading digital innovation at Adidas, emphasizing the importance of confidence in showcasing one's skills in job interviews. He shares insights on translating architectural skills into various industries, the power of visual representation in presentations, and the significance of treating your career like a de...

Jun 18, 202433 minSeason 3Ep. 16

Embracing Passion and Flexibility in Career Choices with your Tangents Host Silvia Lee

This week, we switch things up a little bit where where our host Silvia Lee is interviewed by Out of Architecture's very own Jake Rudin! Silvia Lee is the Director of Customer Success at Layer, an adjunct instructor at the New Jersey Institute of Technology, and the host of this Tangents podcast by Out of Architecture. With a background in architecture and a passion for enabling others to achieve their dreams, Silvia brings a unique perspective to her various roles. Her ability to communicate ef...

Jun 04, 202458 minSeason 3Ep. 15

The Power of Architects as Change Makers with SOM’s Ellen Abraham

In this Tangents episode, we speak with ELLEN ABRAHAM, Chief Pin Officer at Architect Pins, one of our amazing OOA Advisors and Senior Project Manager and Co-Founder of Equity Design Lab @ SOM. In this episode, Ellen Abraham discusses the power of architects as change makers and the importance of thinking beyond traditional roles in the industry. She shares her background in architecture, from growing up in Dominica to pursuing her education and career in New York. Ellen also highlights her curr...

May 21, 202439 minSeason 3Ep. 14

Transforming Passion Into Career Growth with OnePlan's Chi Bhatia

Our guest today is Chi Bhatia, VP of Strategy & Growth at One Plan, a SaaS start-up that builds 2D & 3D technology for events & venues. Chi is also part of the amazing career consultant team at Out of Architecture. Hear Chi share his journey from international student to completing LA’s first NFL stadium to now working at a tech startup providing support to the 2024 Paris Olympics. On this episode of Tangents, Chi Bhatia of OnePlan, and Out of Architecture Career Consultant, shares h...

May 07, 202441 minSeason 3Ep. 13

Building a Career on Kindness and Positive Connections with Studio Ladder's Sam Anderson

Sam Anderson is an architectural visualization specialist who has carved out a unique career path beyond traditional practice. Sam shares her journey from pursuing architecture at the University of Texas to realizing her true passion lies in visualization. She discusses her experiences working in various roles, including at architecture firms, Epic Games, and ultimately starting her own visualization studio. Sam emphasizes the importance of storytelling and using real-time rendering technology t...

Apr 23, 202453 minSeason 3Ep. 12

Reconstructing Histories through Craft and Community with Jeffrey Yoo Warren

Jeffrey Yoo Warren, is a multidisciplinary artist, educator, and crafter whose work explores themes of cultural heritage, identity, and community. Jeffrey shares his unique journey from studying architecture to finding his calling in artistic practices deeply rooted in historical research and traditional craftsmanship. Through his residency at the Library of Congress, Jeffrey talks about the reconstruction of early Asian American communities and neighbourhoods, creating immersive virtual and phy...

Apr 09, 202444 minSeason 3Ep. 11

Transitioning from Architecture to Experience Design in Advertising with Edelman's Lauren Kimball

Our guest today, Lauren Kimball, Experience Design Director @ Edelman, shares her journey from architecture to advertising. She emphasizes the importance of being honest and open in client meetings and offers advice for architecture students looking to explore alternative career paths. Lauren also discusses her platform, Find by Design , which showcases black designers across various disciplines. Through her experiences, she highlights the power of collaboration and the value of pursuing work th...

Mar 26, 202452 minSeason 3Ep. 10

What It Means When Everybody Wins with William Dodge of p-u-b-l-i-c & A Gang of Three

William Dodge shares his unique career journey, from applying to architecture school multiple times, working as a janitor, and eventually becoming a managing principal at a major architecture firm.He discusses his approach to architecture - creating community-focused spaces rather than just facilitating buildings. William talks about starting his own practice, Public, to do great work with wonderful people while getting paid his value. He also runs a public art firm called A Gang of Three. Throu...

Mar 12, 20241 hr 5 minSeason 3Ep. 9

The Journey from Architecture to Experiential Design with Future Colossal's Jill Shah

Our guest today, Jill Shah, Production Designer at Future Colossal, shares how she capitalizes on her abilities as a generalist, asserts herself to create opportunities, and harnesses the power of storytelling in design. Highlights: Leverage spatial design skills from architecture in experience design by focusing on technology integration and storytelling instead of just function. As a generalist, talk confidently about your broad skillset and give examples of how you've tackled challenging, mul...

Feb 27, 202457 minSeason 3Ep. 8

Crafting a Career of Impact with P3 Consulting’s Ozzie Gonzalez

In this episode, I spoke with Ozzie Gonzalez, Principal and Owner of P3 Consulting, (people, planet, profit) about his fascinating journey from architecture into environmental consulting. Ozzie has applied his architecture skills to help companies develop sustainability policies and embed social responsibility into their work. We discuss how Ozzie got started in green building, and expanded into broader corporate strategy during the recession. He shared great insights on working with clients rea...

Feb 13, 202451 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Exploring Design and Storytelling in Animation with Freelance Designer Ben Llewellyn

Our guest today, Benjamin Llewellyn joins me to share his winding journey from graduating with an architecture degree to becoming a freelance illustrator and background artist for animated television shows. Though architecture and illustration seem different, Benjamin finds his architectural background gives him an edge in creating realistic environments and backgrounds. He enjoys the constant variety and creativity of freelance work. See Ben's work here: https://www.vagabondsketchbook.com Highl...

Jan 30, 202441 minSeason 3Ep. 6

The Future of Architecture: Shifting Towards Social and Ecological Justice with FAF’s Charlie Edmonds

Our guest, Charlie Edmonds, Co-Founder of Future Architects Front , calls for collective action to address exploitative practices and envisions a world where architecture prioritizes social needs over capital interests. Charlie is the co-founder of Future Architects Front (FAF), a grassroots organization working to address issues like unpaid overtime, low fees, and poor construction quality in the architecture industry. Charlie discusses how he and co-founder Priti became frustrated with the exp...

Jan 16, 202448 minSeason 3Ep. 5

From Redlines – Overworked and Undervalued: A Series of Traumatic Experiences In Architecture

We're taking a break from Tangents this week for the holidays so we wanted to share with you the latest episode from Redlines, Out of Architecture's podcast where we dive deeper into the core issues that plague the design profession, and evaluate how they result in everyday conflict, discomfort, and workplace turmoil. You'll hear from Chris (not his real name) and how he faced a series of traumatic and unfair experiences over the course of his architecture career. Despite his lifelong passion fo...

Jan 02, 20241 hr 5 min

Challenging Traditional Architecture with Intelligent City’s Kristin Slavin

Ever feel traditional architecture moves too slowly to tackle crises like housing shortages? Our latest guest Kristin set out to transform delivery for faster, quality sustainable housing. Her winding path from design into development, prefab and product led her to a mass timber housing startup reimagining solutions. We cover: Kristin's career from architecture to a hands-on developer role empowering new mass timber construction Transitioning into modular construction and product development at ...

Dec 19, 202348 minSeason 3Ep. 4

What If We Were The Decision Makers? Creating Impact with Multi-Contextual Design with Duo Development’s Rafael Robles

Our guest today, Rafael Robles, Founder at Duo Development, shares his experiences answering the question for himself of who gets to make the decisions? His journey from real estate, to development, to business strategy consulting led Rafael to found his own innovation studio, Duo, where he practices multi-contextual design, amplifying the impact a built project can have. Thank you for listening and I hope you feel empowered to take your own steps forward into your windy career path. Highlights:...

Dec 05, 202354 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Leveraging Design Thinking Beyond Architecture with Brightspot Strategy’s Elliot Felix

What can you do with an architecture degree besides traditional practice? Is it possible to blend your design skills with other passions? Elliot Felix, Founder and CEO of brightspot Strategy, is an architect turned higher education strategist, shares his journey from architecture school to running his own consulting firm. Elliot talks about how an influential middle school teacher inspired him to study architecture, and how that led him to get his undergraduate architecture degree from UVA and a...

Nov 21, 202341 minSeason 3Ep. 2

The Power of Designing Experiences with Odyssey Works’ Abraham Burickson

In this engrossing discussion, Abraham Burickson elaborates on how his journey in the world of architecture led him to develop the concept of experience design. Having worked in various architecture firms and conducted research, Abraham discovered a gap between the promise of architecture and its practice. From tangible architectural projects to uniquely curated experiences called Odyssey Works, Abraham redefines the conventional understanding of architecture. Discussing his one-person tailored ...

Nov 07, 202345 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Bonus: Redlines - Exploitative Visa Practices and Effects on Immigrant Architects

Bonus Episode! Tangents, meet Redlines - our new podcast by Out of Architecture. This episode shines a light on the withholding of critical information by architecture firms to create an uneven power dynamic as firms hold visa sponsorship over young, foreign workers. Our storyteller this week is Cat - a pseudonym - who shares their personal experience with the H1B visa process in the United States and the challenges they faced while working at a reputable architecture firm. Cat discusses the lac...

Nov 01, 202343 minSeason 2Ep. 13

A Passion for Listening, Learning & Helping with Outer Labs' Nate Steinrueck

Our guest today, Nate Steinrueck, Product Strategist at Outer Labs, shares his journey from studying anthropology to working in architecture and eventually transitioning into the tech industry. He emphasizes the importance of being a good listener, learner, and helper in his work, and how these qualities have shaped his career. Nate also discusses the similarities between architecture and product strategy, highlighting the value of problem-solving and effective communication in both fields. He o...

Oct 03, 202356 minSeason 2Ep. 12

Choosing To Follow Happiness with Joyful's Eric Riggsbee

In this Tangents episode, Eric Riggsbee, a project manager at Joyful, shares his unique career path from architecture to the tech industry and back again. He discusses the transferable skills he gained from architecture, such as problem-solving and attention to detail, and how they have helped him succeed in his current role. Eric emphasizes the importance of following happiness rather than sticking to a specific career path, and how architects can bring their creativity and strategic thinking t...

Sep 19, 202339 minSeason 2Ep. 11

Connecting the Dots Through Your Career with Adidas' Jody Broccoli-Hickey

Jody Broccoli Hickey is a 3D computational designer at Adidas. Jody shares how he leveled up his skills and understanding when making a career switch, and the joy of the creative process strengthened from pursuing opportunities that aligned strongly with his interests. Highlights: The importance of spending time to level up your skills Learning the tribal language needed to communicate in different industries Let your unique interests be your superpowers and set you apart The creative snowball e...

Sep 05, 202341 minSeason 2Ep. 10
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