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Talos Takes

Every fortnight, host Hazel Burton brings on a new guest from Talos or the broader Cisco Security world to break down a complicated security topic. We cover everything from breaking news to attacker trends and emerging threats.

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Inside a Talos Incident Response emergency event

Hazel Burton takes over as guest host for this episode as she talks to Nate Pors from Cisco Talos Incident Response. Nate was part of Talos IR's team that helped Veradigm, a healthcare technology company, prevent a Qakbot ransomware attack. Nate and his team recently w rote about this experience for the Talos blog, and Veradigm's CISO even joined the Cisco Security Stories podcast recently to discuss his company's relationship with Talos IR. Nate discusses how his team's pre-existing relationshi...

Sep 29, 202316 minEp. 156

How Talos helped defend Black Hat's network in Vegas

What happens when the hackers become the hacked? Black Hat is one of the largest cybersecurity conferences in the world, and Talos had a hand in defending the on-site network for the past few years. Yuri Kramarz from Talos Incident Response worked in Black Hat's Network Operations Center this year to help defend Black Hat's network and attendees who connected to the network while attending the conference in August in Las Vegas. He joins Talos Takes this week to discuss what he's learned from the...

Sep 22, 202316 minEp. 155

SapphireStealer hits the open internet

Cisco Talos has recently written about malware families that go open-source, sometimes of their own volition, and sometimes because of leaks . In the case of SapphireStealer, we still don't really know why someone posted this malware to GitHub, but now that it's out there, we can't put it back in a box. Edmund Brumaghin, who assisted with Talos' research and blog post on SapphireStealer , joins Talos Takes this week to discuss this information-stealer. Edmund talks about the goals that someone h...

Sep 08, 20237 minEp. 154

You're never going to believe this, but Lazarus Group is back again

North Korea's infamous APT group is back on the scene, this time with two new remote access trojans. By now, you've probably heard of Lazarus Group and all the annoying things they do to steal sensitive information, make money for North Korea's missile program, etc. But we have an update on their current tactics and payloads they're sending around the globe. Asheer Malhotra from Talos Outreach joins Talos Takes this week to discuss the two new RATs he and his team discovered, why Lazarus Group i...

Sep 01, 202310 minEp. 153

Carrying out incident response in-person vs. virtually

Everything about the modern workplace is different now from the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. Many companies are embracing the remote work lifestyle, while others are stuck in a hybrid model or pushing employees to come back to the office. With that in mind, we felt like it was a good time to check in on the incident response process for companies who have to deal with working remotely and those who prefer to conduct business in person. Yuri Kramarz and Gergana Karadzhova-Dangela from Cisco Ta...

Aug 25, 202316 minEp. 152

Hacktivism is quietly growing, especially when it comes to Russia's invasion of Ukraine

The stereotypical "hacker" who looks to do good in the world probably involves a Guy Fawkes mask and black hoodie. But hacktivism has become much more than that, especially since Russia invaded Ukraine. On the heels of a newly released overview on hacktivism , Lexi DiScola from the Talos Threat Intelligence and Interdiction team joins Talos Takes this week to discuss these actors. While not just anyone is likely a target for hacktivists, Talos has seen groups become more brazen and start looking...

Aug 18, 202311 minEp. 151

What's the difference between data theft extortion and ransomware?

Cisco Talos Incident Response observed data theft extortion more than any other type of cyber attack last quarter . So why has it become so popular? And what makes it different from ransomware? Jacob Finn from the Talos Threat Intelligence and Interdiction Team joins Jon this week to discuss the basics of data theft extortion. He just worked on an overview of this threat for Talos researchers and works closely with Talos IR on their quarterly trends reports. Jacob discusses why threat actors are...

Aug 11, 202311 minEp. 150

Reading 2023's cybersecurity tarot cards

Hazel Burton and Jon Munshaw use this week to look back on the top threats and cybersecurity trends so far in 2023 and the rest of the year. Hazel recently compiled Talos' Half-Year in Review , recapping the top stories that Talos has been following so far this year. She and Jon talk about what stood out from the report, what our researchers have been thinking about up to this point, and what we'll be discussing come December....

Aug 04, 202311 minEp. 149

(XL Edition): The top trends that Talos IR saw last quarter

We're back with the audio version of our quarterly Cisco Talos Incident Response On Air stream. Join the Talos IR team as they recap the past quarter's top trends , including talking about malware they're seeing in the wild, tactics that attackers are using most often to break into networks, and much more. They discuss why healthcare continues to be a popular target for bad actors, and how adversaries are pivoting away from ransomware and instead opting for data theft and extortion. If you prefe...

Jul 28, 202330 minEp. 148

ISO 27002 sounds intimidating, but really it's just a cybersecurity shopping list

When Martin Lee first told Jon about ISO 27001 and 27002 , Jon had to immediately Google whatever this combination of letters and numbers meant. Turns out there are international standards for cybersecurity, just like they have for selling lightbulbs and installing electrical outlets — who knew? Martin recently wrote about these standards for the Talos blog , outlining a list of recommendations for any organization looking to build a threat intelligence program from the ground up. Jon interviewe...

Jul 21, 202312 minEp. 147

The dangers of "Mercenary" groups and the spyware they create

Asheer Malhotra is back to talk to Jon Munshaw about spyware and mercenary groups. Asheer recently helped publish Talos research on Mercenary Groups and why they're so dangerous in particular. We briefly touched on this topic in a past episode on the Predator/Alien spyware tag team , but this time we're getting into the broader field of what Mercenary groups are, exactly, and what makes them so dangerous. Asheer talks about recent steps governments have taken to curb the sale of spyware and why ...

Jul 14, 20238 minEp. 146

The various ways attackers can mess with URLs, TLDs and DNS

We decided to have a web navigation extravaganza this week! Guilherme Venere and Jaeson Schultz from Talos Outreach have both long been researching the ways in which bad actors try to damage users' inherent trust in the internet . Most internet users interact with the web by typing in a URL or domain name into their web browser (i.e., google.com) expecting that will take them to the right place. But attackers have found various ways to mess with that series of handshakes that must take place. Gu...

Jun 30, 202314 minEp. 145

What we know so far about the MOVEit zero-day making the rounds

Aliza Johnson from Talos Threat Intelligence and Interdiction team joins Jon Munshaw this week for a Talos Takes episode on the MOVEit zero-day vulnerability (that's since been patched) making headlines recently . Talos published an advisory last week on everything we know so far about the exploitation of this vulnerability and the group behind it, Clop. Aliza discusses where things stand right now, what Clop is doing once they gain access via this vulnerability and what Talos recommends for mit...

Jun 23, 20236 minEp. 144

The hidden threat to the software supply chain you may not be thinking about

Cisco Talos Incident Response recently discovered an uptick in malicious actors compromising vendor and third-party accounts to sneak into targeted networks. Many enterprises have vendor and contractor accounts that need to access their network for a variety of things — IT support, cybersecurity, etc. — but these accounts are often monitored less than those belonging to full-time employees. Craig Jackson, who recently co-authored a blog post on this threat, joins Talos Takes this week to talk ab...

Jun 16, 202312 minEp. 143

Horabot is here to do "horable" things to your email inbox

We're joined this week by Chetan Raghuprasad to discuss a new botnet he recently discovered and researched. Horabot can completely hijack a target's Outlook mailbox to steal their contact list and then send even more spam to targets. It's the perfect business email compromise tool for attackers that comes with a side of banking trojan. Chetan talks to Jon about this malware family's abilities, where it came from and what the actors behind it are hoping to achieve. For more, read Chetan's full bl...

Jun 09, 202314 minEp. 142

The Predator spyware and more "mercenary" groups

Despite governments' best efforts, spyware is still running rampant on the threat landscape. These types of tracking malware are used to target high-profile individuals like politicians, activists, journalists and more — and even sometimes for jealous exes to track their former partners. Asheer Malhotra, who recently dissected the Predator spyware, joins Talos Takes this week to talk about Predator and its associated tool, Alien. Asheer shares new technical details about this spyware and discuss...

Jun 02, 202310 minEp. 141

How to adapt to the constant change that comes with cybersecurity

Hazel Burton is our special guest host this week of Talos Takes, featuring a very special guest: Talos Vice President Matt Watchinski! Matt and Hazel have a conversation for Mental Health Awareness Month, especially as it relates to the cybersecurity industry. They share tips on how to balance work and life (when it seems like cybersecurity is starting to permeate every aspect of our lives) and how to deal with failure. Join us for this incredibly candid conversation!

May 26, 202318 minEp. 140

RA Group is just the latest example of the ransomware landscape splintering

Talos researchers recently discovered a new ransomware group called "RA Group." This week, Nick Biasni joins Jon to discuss this new threat actor and the modified Babuk ransomware they've already used in attacks against a wide range of companies in the U.S. and South Korea. Nick talks about the group's use of source code that's already been leaked, where they could be headed next and what this group may signal for the larger ransomware landscape. Other helpful links: Threat Source newsletter (Ma...

May 19, 20238 minEp. 139

What makes the new Greatness phishing-as-a-service tool so great?

Tiago Pereira from Talos Outreach joins the show this week to talk about his recent discovery of a new phishing-as-a-service tool called "Greatness." Since everything else is "as-a-service" nowadays, it's only fitting that attackers have figured out how to monetize easy phishing tools, too. Tiago discusses what makes Greatness unique, why it's going after business targets specifically, and why it creates such convincing fake Office 365 login pages....

May 12, 20238 minEp. 138

XL Edition: Talos Incident Response livestream on top trends from the past quarter

This week's episode is longer than usual, but we wanted to bring you the Cisco Talos Incident Response On Air livestream from last week for anyone who missed it. For anyone who prefers a video version, you can watch the recording here . In this discussion, researchers from Talos IR and the Talos Threat Intelligence and Interdiction team cover the top threats and attacker tactics they saw over the past quarter. They talk about why the use of web shells is way up, whether or not the ransomware dec...

May 05, 202333 minEp. 137

Analyzing the recent takedown of popular dark web forums

On the heels of law enforcement agencies from across the globe working together to disrupt two popular cybercrime forums — Genesis Market and BreachForums — Azim Khodjibaev from Talos' Threat Intelligence & Interdiction team joins Jon to talk about these types of sites. Azim has years of experience infiltrating and investigating these types of marketplaces to learn about emerging security threats. He talks about what goes into these types of takedowns and where the sites' users are likely to...

Apr 28, 20239 minEp. 136

What does the future of MFA look like?

Nowadays it seems like every major tech company has their own multi-factor authentication solution, whether that be a unique app, one-time passcode generation or the "classic" SMS two-factor code. Thorsten Rosendahl, the newest addition to the Cisco Talos Strategic Communications team in Europe, joins the show this week to discuss the conversations he's been having with customers in the field around MFA. He and Jon cover the news that Twitter is going to start charging for users to enroll in SMS...

Apr 21, 202313 minEp. 135

How to best prepare for, and respond to, supply chain attacks

With another major supply chain attack recently making headlines, we felt like it was a good time to refresh our advice on how to prepare for these types of cyber attacks. Adversaries are increasingly relying on users' inherent trust of the software running on their networks and devices to deliver hijacked, malicious updates that are actually malware. Craig Jackson, a senior Cisco Talos incident responder, joins the show to provide some advice on how organizations can prep for the next major sup...

Apr 14, 202310 minEp. 134

The defensive and offensive implications of ChatGPT and AI

Everyone is talking about tools like ChatGPT and other AI tools that are dominating headlines and threatening to upend every industry possible. But where do these things stand in cybersecurity? In this week's episode, Jon talks to two women who are well-versed on the topic and recently presented about the cybersecurity implications of AI at several conferences. Gergana Karadzhova of Cisco Talos Incident Response and Saskia Laura Schroer, a security consulting engineer for Cisco, discuss how AI i...

Mar 31, 202314 minEp. 133

Talos Takes Ep. #132: Reflecting on one year of Talos' work in Ukraine

It's been just over a year since Talos formed our Ukraine-focused task force. After Russia's invasion of Ukraine, many of our teammates sprung into action to protect critical infrastructure and networks there — not to mention the Talos employees who literally had to fight back to protect their home country. In this week's episode of Talos Takes, J.J. Cummings, one of the lead organizers of this task force, joins the show to discuss the group's ongoing work. J.J. talks about where the situation i...

Mar 24, 202312 minEp. 132

Why does the Prometei botnet keep growing?

Vanja Svajcer and Andrew Windsor join the show this week to talk about their recent research into the Prometei botnet . This malware continues to evade detection and invade more machines so it can eventually hijack them to mine Monero cryptocurrency. Jon asks them about what's new with Prometei, why it's pretty generous in who it's targeting and where we could see it going next. Additional reading...

Mar 17, 202312 minEp. 131

There's not actually more spam during Tax Season — it's just different spam

Public perception is such that it's assumed we just get more spam in the U.S. during two major times of the year — Tax Season and Black Friday. But over the past few years, this trend has become a thing of the past. With Tax Day approaching for Americans, there won't be more spam emails coming their way than usual, it'll just be different. Eric Peterson from Talos' email detection team joins the show for Jon's triumphant return from parental leave to talk about tax-related spam. Eric talks about...

Mar 10, 202310 minEp. 130

The benefits of taking an active approach to threat defense

Nick Biasini is back as host again to talk to Vitor Ventura about the benefits of taking an active approach to threat defense. Many organizations may just sit back and wait for something bad to happen. But as he outlined in his recent blog post , Vitor says there are many benefits to being proactive instead of reactive. Nick asks him about threat hunting as a team, scanning logs and tracking network traffic on an almost-constant basis....

Mar 03, 202311 minEp. 129

Year in Review - Ransomware and Commodity Loaders

We're back with the final year in review focused episode. This time the focus is on the ever broadening ransomware landscape and the commodity malware loaders that often support it. I'll be joined by one of the researchers from the year in review report, Aliza Johnson to talk about what we saw on the ransomware landscape over the last year as well as how threats like Qakbot, IcedID, and Trickbot have changed and evolved over the last year. We'll also cover how these threats overlap and how LoLBi...

Feb 10, 202311 minEp. 128

Following the LNK metadata trail

In this episode of Talos Takes I am joined by security researcher Guilherme Venere to discuss their recent research on LNK files. The usage of these files by malicious actors has exploded over the last six months as actors look to move away from macro based initial infection vectors. LNK files do have unique metadata attributes to allows for useful actor and threat tracking capabilities. We'll dig deeper on LNK files as well as the metadata you can leverage. For full details check out the blog a...

Feb 03, 202312 minEp. 127
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