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Salt Damage

Dec 04, 202411 minSeason 2024Ep. 4
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In this episode, we discuss the impact of salt on trees and shrubs, a pressing issue for plants growing near roads where salt is used for de-icing. Our first source explores how salt exposure affects the growth and survival of trees and shrubs, shedding light on the challenges faced by vegetation in high-salt environments. The second source provides a comprehensive guide to salt-tolerant trees and shrubs, ideal for planting in areas like Rhode Island. This guide includes valuable information on each plant’s salt tolerance, light and moisture requirements, as well as tips on planting and care.

Background info: 

  • Clatterbuck. 2003. Tree Susceptibility to Salt Damage
  • Sheridan et al. 2010. RIDOT Salt Tolerant Tree and Shrub Guide


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Roger

Talking Trees with Lily and Jad . Welcome to another episode of Talking Trees . Every Wednesday , we dive into the world of practical tree care , current discussions and the challenges faced by arborists . Today In this episode , we will dive into the issue of winter road maintenance , the use of salt and its impact on the trees growing along our roads .

Let's get started .

Jad

Ever drive by a highway in spring and see those sad brown trees just struggling , it makes you wonder what's going on there . Well , today we're doing a deep dive on roadside planting and , honestly , the silent killer .

Lilly

Yeah .

Jad

We've got some fascinating research actually for the University of Tennessee , and then a really interesting practical guide from the Rhode Island Department of Transportation oh cool . So get ready to get your Otney boots on . We're going to uncover a hidden world of environmental impact here .

Lilly

So it's kind of a story of two sides . Right , we need safe roads in the winter , obviously . So it's kind of a story of two sides . Right , we need safe roads in the winter , obviously . But using de-icing salts has these consequences that you know . Maybe we don't always see .

Jad

Yeah , definitely a tough balance , and the University of Tennessee research it like really gets into the nitty gritty of the science behind this salt damage , and I always thought it was as simple as like salt getting on plants . But it's got to be more than that right .

Lilly

Oh yeah , it's way more insidious . You've got sodium , a huge part of road salt , and it just misses with the soil chemistry and when that happens it disrupts the balance that trees need to take in water and nutrients . It's , like you know , trying to get a drink from a well that's contaminated . Eventually it's going to take its toll .

Jad

And their visuals from this article really make it hit home . Yeah , you see pictures of scorched leaves , stunted growth , and even big old oak trees aren't safe . It kind of reminds you that everything has its limits , I guess .

Lilly

Totally , and some species get hit harder than others too . The article actually talked about how evergreens are super vulnerable , especially like February March . They even had this picture of a pine tree totally damaged by salt . Needles were completely brown . Why do you think those months are so bad for them ?

Jad

Yeah , you'd think they'd be used to it by then . Right , they make it through winter , but then spring comes along .

Lilly

Well , it's a few things . By late winter , those evergreens have been through months of rough conditions . Their needles are exposed , so they're accumulating salt all that time , and then , you know , when the temperatures start to change in early spring they wake up and they start needing more water and nutrients again .

Jad

Oh , so they're sucking up all that salt that's built up in the soil too .

Lilly

Exactly Throws their whole system off balance . And then bam , you see the damage . Think about it this way Imagine your trees getting hit with a mini saltwater storm every time a car drives by .

Jad

Oh , wow , Okay . So it's that constant spray , but instead of like ocean air , it's way more concentrated .

Lilly

Exactly .

Jad

So what is that doing to them ?

Lilly

Well , that salt coats the leaves , especially on evergreens .

Jad

Oh right .

Lilly

And it's like you know , if someone kept dumping salt water on your house plants , eventually their systems would get overloaded .

Jad

Yeah , makes sense .

Lilly

And for trees that means browning needles dropping early . They can't photosynthesize properly .

Jad

There's actually a picture in Clatterbuck's paper . It's called a marginal leaf burn , where the edges of the leaves look scorched . Right and it's like a sure sign of salt damage . It is so , knowing all this , what can people actually do ? Both clatter back Andy that Rhode Island DOT paper had some good tips yeah , and it starts with smart planning .

Lilly

So when you're selecting trees to plant , you know , think about those salt tolerant species and Kinkos honey locusts . They're the champs .

Jad

Yeah , both papers had these lists of super trees .

Lilly

Of course , if you've already got trees and you're worried about salt , there are things you can do .

Jad

Like giving them some armor , right yeah exactly Like .

Lilly

Think about it this way Distance is your friend Right . The further a tree is from the road , the less salt spray it's going to catch .

Jad

Makes sense . 60 feet right , that was the magic number .

Lilly

Yeah , 60 feet's a good rule of thumb .

Jad

Okay , what about irrigation ? One of the papers mentioned that like helping after the winter .

Lilly

Oh , absolutely . It's like a spring detox for your trees . Flushing out all that accumulated salt from the soil can really work wonders .

Jad

It's like giving them a nice refreshing drink .

Lilly

Yeah , and don't underestimate the power of a good layer of mulch .

Jad

Oh right , mulch , I usually think of that for weeds , yeah .

Lilly

Well , it acts as a kind of a protective barrier between the salt and the tree roots .

Jad

Interesting .

Lilly

So simple , but it's a simple step , but it can make a big difference .

Jad

Okay , but zooming out a bit here , it's not just about protecting , like the individual trees , right that Rhode Island study , they really stressed the importance of kind of thinking , bigger picture , right .

Lilly

Exactly .

Jad

Sustainable landscaping .

Lilly

Especially along road sites .

Jad

yeah , yeah , creating whole ecosystems that are more resilient . It reminds me they actually did those case studies , right they did Checking out real life projects . Some of those were successes , right ? They ?

Lilly

were . Yeah , and those successes really just highlight how important thoughtful design and planning are . For example , TF Green Airport .

Jad

They found that trees planted further from the road and on kind of like slightly higher ground were thriving . Getting them out of the line of fire . Exactly what about that project on Route 138 in Jamestown ?

Lilly

Oh , that one was fascinating . They used a mix of native plants that were , you know , well suited to local conditions , and they actually invested in a three-year maintenance contract to make sure those plants got established .

Jad

That's commitment .

Lilly

It is , and it paid off . The project was considered a huge success , not just for its functionality , but also for how much it enhanced the beauty of the area .

Jad

Oh , wow , that's great , but , as you mentioned , not all the projects they studied were quite so successful .

Lilly

Right right .

Jad

So what went wrong in those cases ?

Lilly

One of the biggest takeaways was that , even if you choose the toughest trees , the most salt-tolerant trees , if they aren't planted correctly or given proper care , especially in those first few years , they're just more vulnerable .

Jad

Makes sense . It's like sending a soldier into battle with no training .

Lilly

Yeah , exactly .

Jad

So what could have been done differently ? I remember the Rhode Island paper mentioned something about a plant's natural habitat .

Lilly

Right . So they stressed , choosing trees and shrubs that were , you know , adapted to similar conditions to those found along roadsides . You know , the Rhode Island paper also talked about how even small details matter , like which way a slope faces .

Jad

Oh , interesting . Ok , how does that play into it ?

Lilly

Well , think about it . A south-facing slope gets more direct sunlight , right .

Jad

Right .

Lilly

That means , the snow melts faster .

Jad

Oh , okay .

Lilly

Which could lead to more salty runoff .

Jad

So it all connects .

Lilly

It's like this whole intricate dance between the sun , the slope , the salt and then the trees .

Jad

We need to think like landscape choreographers . Speaking of connecting the dots , I was reading about how the Rhode Island study they really wanted to use a mix of trees , A and D shrubs in their roadside plantings Right , why is that ?

Lilly

It's about creating layers . Okay , so think of like you know , you know your heartiest , most salt tolerant species as the front line okay they're the buffer . They protect the more sensitive plants behind them like a living shield wall exactly .

Jad

It creates this more resilient layered ecosystem that can handle those tough conditions that makes a lot of sense , yeah , but we also have to talk about what we're putting down on the roads in the first place , right ?

Lilly

Right .

Jad

Remember we were talking about those like alternative de-icing methods , like beet juice , like what I put in my smoothies .

Lilly

The very same . So it turns out , if you mix beet juice with road salt , it can actually make the salt more effective at lower temperatures .

Jad

So you need less salt overall , exactly , which means less damage , less runoff .

Lilly

Potentially yeah .

Jad

Are we talking about beet juice as like a secret weapon ?

Lilly

Well , it's definitely a fascinating area of research and some places have had good results with it . And since beet juice is biodegradable , you know , Right . It could be a win-win .

Jad

That's really cool . I'm guessing it can't be as simple as , like you know , dumping beet juice on all the roads . Right , be juice on all the roads Right .

Lilly

There are always tradeoffs , cost , you know , availability , the impact on water systems . It's complicated .

Jad

Yeah .

Lilly

But I mean that's kind of the point , isn't it ? This whole thing with road salt is like this big puzzle .

Jad

We've pretty high stakes , I'd say .

Lilly

Yeah .

Jad

You know our trees , how our communities look , the whole ecosystem .

Lilly

Exactly , and that's why it's so important to you know , stay informed , ask questions and , just like understand how the choices we make all fit into that bigger picture .

Jad

Well said . So . From the science of salt damage to those real world case studies , from beet juice to that essential reminder that it's all connected , that's your deep dive on road salt and trees .

Lilly

It's amazing what you can learn when you dig in a little deeper .

Jad

It really is . Now here's something to ponder as you go about your day . We've talked a lot about choosing the right trees , right To survive those salty roadsides . What if we flip the script ?

Lilly

How do you mean ?

Jad

What if those salt tolerant trees could actually help protect other plants ?

Lilly

Oh , interesting .

Jad

Like imagine creating these natural barriers where other plants could thrive even with all that salt . Food for thought .

Lilly

Yeah , it really is .

Jad

I was really interested in how the University of Tennessee article explained the science behind salt damage .

Roger

Yeah .

Jad

Because it's not just about the salt itself , is it ? It's about how it messes with what's going on inside the plant .

Lilly

No , it's definitely more than just the salt being there . They talked about how salt makes it hard for plants to absorb water , so they basically get dehydrated even when there's water around , and it can screw up how they take up nutrients too , so they're practically starving .

Jad

Wow , it's rough being a tree sometimes , but I thought it was really interesting how they explained that salt affects different species in different ways . It's not the same for every plant .

Lilly

Oh yeah , that's so important to remember . They said that some species are really sensitive to the salt spray , for example , but others are more affected by salt building up in the soil and even when the salt hits them can make a difference . Makes sense .

Jad

even when the salt hits them can make a difference Makes sense , like with those evergreens getting hit hard in late winter , early spring . They're dealing with that salt buildup and their system is all out of whack because they're waking up .

Lilly

Exactly . It's just bad timing all around , and that's why knowing all this stuff , these little details , is so important If you wanna choose the right plants , put them in the right spot and make sure they thrive .

Jad

So next time you see those trees along the road , you'll know there's a whole lot more going on . Thanks for diving in with us .

Roger

That brings us to the end of today's episode , where we explored the impact of road salt on trees and shrubs growing along our roads . Thankfully , through several scientific studies , we've also discussed ways to mitigate this stress , including the use of salt-tolerant species , physical barriers and alternative de-icing methods .

Thank you for joining us in this deep dive into a crucial environmental challenge . Be sure to check the episode description for the full list of sources and citations . Stay tuned for more insights in our upcoming episodes of Talking Trees . Until next time .

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