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Talking Talmud

Yardaena Osband & Anne Gordon
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Yevamot 50: How Final Are the Yibum Options?

The fifth chapter! Plus, the options of ma'amar, get, chalitzah... and, of course, yibum. And how the may follow one from the other, as it happens. Note - a long mishnah here establishes the basic cases and basic principles - for example, once ma'amar has been done, it can't be done again in that same context. The Gemara basically establishes where Rabban Gamliel and the sages agree and disagree.

Apr 26, 202228 minSeason 14Ep. 50

Yevamot 49: Who Is a Mamzer?

A new mishnah! And more on mamzerim, even an introduction to the status. Plus, a genealogy scroll that includes mention of a person as "mamzer." Also, the second half of the mishnah... The impact of a woman who dies on her sister's permissibility to marry a whole slew of people. Also, spotlight that lineage scroll. With insights, as it were, from the prophet Isaiah. What does his position, as presented in the Gemara, imply about prophecy? Plus, another extra meta comment about the mishnah.

Apr 25, 202214 minSeason 14Ep. 49

Yevamot 48: Captives and Converts

The daf discusses Eshet Yifat Toar with an interesting twist from Rabbi Akiva. The daf ends with a theological discussion about converts.

Apr 24, 202218 min

Yevamot 47: The Self-Incrimination of a Convert

Continuing the conversion conversation... How to be sure that a conversion in Israel will be accepted outside the land? Including the case of one who claims about himself that he's truly a concert, and not in accord with halakhah. How can he testify against himself? What can his testimony do against his children? How do we know whom to trust about their own Jewishness? Plus, why would someone want to convert to Judaism? And - an overview of the process and challenge of converting. Plus, a midras...

Apr 23, 202218 minSeason 14Ep. 47

Yevamot 46: Women Can't Be Circumcised

A long daf... When Jewish women became pregnant from partial converts (men who had been circumcised, but not yet dunked in a mikveh). Similar issues turn up with wine and cooking... So: decrees against the wine and the food, and that the children of such unions were mamzerim. All of which decrees by R. Yochanan do seem to be in line with his approach. Also, R. Eliezer's position on this status (circumcision without dunking) is that the person is a full conversion, and vice versa too. But the sag...

Apr 23, 202216 minSeason 14Ep. 46

Yevamot 45: Was Rav a Bigot? (God forbid, of course)

Cases a union between a non-Jewish father and a Jewish mother - what are the implications for the children (or are there any)? Rav takes a strong position that is indeed the halakhah - that the children are "kosher." Plus, the talmudic equivalent of a camel dancing on the head of the proverbial pin - meaning, thr law has to be upheld to be trusted. Also, other ramifications for the kosher progeny of a Jewish mother and non-Jewish father.

Apr 21, 202216 minSeason 14Ep. 45

Yevamot 44: Rabbi Akiva's Mamzerim

A case: 4 brothers married to 4 women, and some of the brothers died... Can a brother do yibum more than once? When is chalitzah done instead? What does an "invalid" status mean? Also, a man who remarries the woman he'd divorced, after she is divorced or widowed by someone else. Can they stay married? What is the status of children? Note Rabbi Akiva's difficult (and rejected) position regarding who is a mamzer.

Apr 20, 202212 minSeason 14Ep. 44

Yevamot 43: Who Waited 3 Months, and for What?

More on the methodology of halakhic decisions, via a case of ritual impurity and the possibility thereof for carding combs for flax and wool. And the implications of unattributed mishnayot. Also, betrothal within the 3 months, plus a whole lot of cases of how people would wait or not wait for the 3 months. Plus, the implications of a waiting period for those who are in the 30-day mourning period for a spouse - as drawn from the parallel with Tisha B'Av, and the sense of personal mourning that sh...

Apr 19, 202217 minSeason 14Ep. 43

Yevamot 42: Tracking the 7- and 9-Month Babies

Two scientific points of interest - the 7 or 9 month baby, suggesting 1 month wait is all that is needed to determine paternity, not 3 months. What are the implications of these assessments? Including the woman's incentive to lie. And a deeper dive into the 7/9 months. Plus, pregnancy while nursing. Also, following some of the halakhic guidelines to determine the rulings of the Tannaitic literature, including or specifically, when there's a machloket.

Apr 18, 202225 minSeason 14Ep. 42

Yevamot 41: Elijah the Prophet to Clarify Which Woman Is Which

The ramifications of chalitzah for the relatives of the pair doing chalitzah. Also, what happens when a widow awaits yibum or chalitzah, and those other relationships are already getting put into play? Also, the widow must wait 3 months for yibum or marriage, to see if she might be pregnant with her dead husband's child. Why defer betrothal, though? Plus, in the landed area of Yehudah, they may have been involved... And that waiting period is considered necessary for couples of this nature there...

Apr 17, 202220 minSeason 14Ep. 41

Yevamot 40: Inheritance Rules: A Key Element of Yibum

First, a timely comment on chametz on the altar, and matzah too, for that matter, for an episode release after the first day of Pesach (as that day's daf). Also, what is the goal of yibum, what is accomplished? Plus the implications for inheritance. Also, how doing chalitzah has impact on other potential relationships, prohibiting some relatives of each to the other.

Apr 16, 202220 minSeason 14Ep. 40

Yevamot 39: Can You Do Yibum Instead of Me?

Is a yibum marriage a full marriage? For leaving it, it would seem so - requiring divorce and not chalitzah. And the woman who is now divorced from the yavam is treated as a divorced woman in regular cases. Also, a new mishnah that could pass for the tractate's opening mishnah - about how yibum works, who is obligated, etc. For example, one who is obligated by the yavam and tries to pan it off on someone else...(specifically, his brothers). Plus, how specific amoraim connected to each of the peo...

Apr 16, 202216 minSeason 14Ep. 39

Yevamot 38: Complicating Inheritance

Cases of questionable inheritance, which need some real calculation and navigation to determine who should inherit what (particularly property). Plus, a new mishnah - where a yevamah-to-be inherits prior to yibum... Which complicates the inheritance she bequeaths as well. Also, when a husband died before a Sotah woman has a chance to have her test to determine whether she has committed adultery takes place - what happens is a machloket between Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai, which aligns with the ...

Apr 14, 202219 minSeason 14Ep. 38

Yevamot 37: Those Viable Babies

The babies who are born at 7 months or 9 months - with a paternity question. Why get into the 7-month baby possibility? That seems to be introducing complications for no good reason. But how much of this is determined by a majority of women? Depending on when they know they're pregnant... What are the real norms here? Also, a ln important discussion that begins with preventing mamzerim, and ends with not marrying someone you intend to divorce. Along the way, some rabbis put out the call for a (s...

Apr 13, 202220 minSeason 14Ep. 37

Yevamot 36: The Sadness of Yibum

On Resh Lakish, in contrast to R. Yochanan - on the 3 times we follow Resh Lakish. Including regarding inheritance regulations, as compared to those of a gift. Also, what happens if there's yibum between a yavam and a yevama before waiting to see if she is pregnant from the brother who died....? The Gemara debates them needing to divorce and separate forever, or separate until they know if there's room to permit them to be together...and whether the sages agree or disagree. Including when the ch...

Apr 12, 202231 minSeason 14Ep. 36

Yevamot 35: Contraception, Talmud-style

The case of a female convert or a freed maidservant... With the inappropriate presumption, though possibly accurate, that prior to their change in status, they were promiscuous, or at least presumed to have been so. Which leads to a discussion of the contraception that promiscuous women would have used. Which is relevant to the discussion when the woman knows her freedom is coming to take great care against getting pregnant. It would seem that R. Yosei contradicts himself in terms of whether the...

Apr 11, 202221 minSeason 14Ep. 35

Yevamot 34: Getting Pregnant the First Time

More on two women who marry two men, and get switched before the nisuin part.... Which leads to a broader discussion of one trying to do a mitzvah who ends up doing a sin, and the machloket on that between R. Yehoshua and R. Eliezer. In this case, mixing up babies who need circumcision, one on Shabbat. What korbanot would need to be brought? Plus, a case of terumah for the child of a kohen from a union that is not permitted to a kohen. And another key case: chametz that is terumah on erev Pesach...

Apr 10, 202230 minSeason 14Ep. 34

Yevamot 33: Talmudic Clarity? Bait and Switch

More on simultaneous prohibitions. How the dispute between R. Hiya and Bar Kappara seems to ride on two different teachings by R. Yehudah HaNasi, respectively. But the difficulties in understanding these passages are purportedly resolved... And then left in place. Also, a new mishnah with a strange case: multiple levels of prohibition, perhaps the most possible for a sexual relationship... But then there's a practical case too. And a meta comment on how Halakhah is not designed for wicked people...

Apr 09, 202225 minSeason 14Ep. 33

Yevamot 32: Once Forbidden, Always Forbidden

If a brother did ma'amar with his brother's yibum, and then divorced that Levirate betrothed, leaves the possibility of yibum for the third brother, with the co-wife. But the woman who had ma'mar and then a get is in a complicated position. (And corresponding other cases). Plus a new mishnah, with another case (well, set if cases) - and bumping up against the claim that the mishnah isn't supposed to be changed. Also, the difference of approach between R. Yosei and R. Shimon, on eisher ach vs ach...

Apr 08, 202223 minSeason 14Ep. 32

Yevamot 31: An Absence of Real Life Yibum Stories

When it's not clear that a couple has either gotten married or (a different couple) divorced... where witnesses are essential. Plus, the case of Bar Shtaya and his property and testimony that can't be used as determinate. Also, a new mishnah, with another yibum case - this time, where 3 brothers are married to 3 women who are not related to each other. It's a case of ma'amar, 2 husbands (brothers) who die, and the question of 2 yibum bonds to two men (or is that even a thing).

Apr 07, 202215 minSeason 14Ep. 31

Yevamot 30: Adding a Non-Sister to the Mix

5 mishnayot, with templates of 3 brothers, two of whom marry two sisters, and the third brother marries an unrelated woman. The cases play out the different variables and their implications for yibum and chalitzah for the remaining family members. Plus, a mishnaic comment on the 15 co-wives from the first mishnah of Yevamot.

Apr 06, 202224 minSeason 14Ep. 30

Yevamot 29: The Strength (and Weakness) of Ma'amar

A new mishnah - that facilitates a deeper dive into ma'amar, the Levirate betrothal. Via a case of 3 brothers, and the complications there that get in the way of yibum. Plus, the language of "kiddushin," a formal act of acquisition, and how ma'amar compares to kiddushin. Also, the undoing of vows that a husband can do for a wife.... Can a yavam do so for a shomeret yavam, a woman who awaits yibum? How strong is the bond between them to allow for this? And lo and behold, ma'amar has a role here t...

Apr 05, 202219 minSeason 14Ep. 29

Yevamot 28: Abaye Didn’t Really Rape That Woman

Trigger warning there is a discussion about rape in today’s daf. In today’s daf we learn who can decide what is in the canon of Mishnah and who can argue with who. How do forbidden relationships have a different standing if the connection (from mother to child) is via rape.

Apr 04, 202227 minSeason 14Ep. 28

Yevamot 27: The Strength of Bonds

A case where chalitzah is expected, but the man gives a get instead -- or where there's a yibum betrothal (ma'amar). Consider the layering of procedure and requirement that clouds the question of the practice at the Torah level of requirement. Also, the case of 2 sisters who had been married to two brothers, with one brother remaining to dispatch the yibum requirement. With a focus on Rav's opinion, and whether he contradicts himself.

Apr 03, 202226 minSeason 14Ep. 27

Yevamot 26: Yibum Word Problems

Finishing chapter 2, and starting chapter 3, with a mishnah apiece. First, a case where a woman was able to leave her marriage - are any of the people involved in the case in court allowed to marry her? The answer - in sweeping terms for which there are of course exceptions - is no. Ulterior motives, and all. But with an important caveat or few. Plus, chapter 3 returns us to cases of yibum. For example, 4 brothers, two of whom married two sisters, where those two brothers then died, and the ques...

Apr 02, 202227 minSeason 14Ep. 26

Yevamot 25: Permitting and Forbidding

The daf discusses a few different scenarios where a woman is released from her marriage but someone involved with the end of her marriage may not marry her afterward.

Apr 01, 202220 min

Yevamot 24: Converting for the Sake of Marriage

On the mitzvah that is on the eldest of brothers to do yibum. Plus, what is the purpose of yibum?! (Finally?) What does it mean to carry on a dead brother's name? Also, when a man is suspected of having slept with a non-Jewish maidservant or a non-Jewish woman, who is then set free or converts to Judaism (respectively)... He can't marry that woman. What's the rationale and how far does it go? Including when ulterior motives negate the conversion, and when they seem not to.

Mar 31, 202227 minSeason 14Ep. 24

Yevamot 23: When You're Not Sure Whom You Betrothed

A study of the divergent opinions of R. Yosi and the sages on the progeny of a non-Jewish maidservant, or of an idolatress. The child apparently inherits the status of the non-Jewish maidservant, regardless of the Jewish paternity. Which means that siblings aren't siblings, on a technical logistic level. But the non-Jewish slaves did have some connection to mitzvot, which makes the exclusionary verses inherently important. But how did this all work out practically?! Also, a new mishnah - with se...

Mar 30, 202227 minSeason 14Ep. 23

Yevamot 22: Not My Brother, Not My Father Either

On the status of converts, particularly with regard to the secondary forbidden relationships. Also, a mishnah: how different statuses of one's brother have impact (or don't) on issues of yibum. Plus, the implications of having a non-Jewish mother. Also, the issue of mamzerut, the progeny from illicit sexual relationships, and the impact on yibum. NOTE: The conference mentioned in the episode is on Wednesday, March 30 - Anne had the date wrong.

Mar 29, 202217 minSeason 14Ep. 22

Yevamot 21: The Family Compound

King Solomon and his proverbs and the way he gave "handles" to the "basket" of Yevamot (among other details of halakhah. Note also the list of the secondary forbidden relationships - in full (as much as a beraita can be). [Who's Who: R. Hisda] Plus, a Chaldean astrologer. Plus, the secondary forbidden relationship of the daughters-in-law.

Mar 28, 202223 minSeason 14Ep. 21
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