The Pez Dispenser (S03E14)

I asked her if she wanted to go out to dinner, and she said no, maybe we could get together for lunch. You know what that means? What's with lunch? Lunch is fine at the beginning. Then you move on to dinner. You don't go back to lunch. It's like being demoted. I'll never do another cross with puzzle with her again. I know it. I like the jumble. You ever do the jumble? I have no power. Don't you understand? I need hand? I have no hand.

Break up with her? What you break up with her? You reverse everything that way? A preemptive break up. A preemptive break up. This is an incredible idea. I got nothing to lose. We either break up, which she would do anyway, but at least I go out with some dignity, or I completely turned the tables. This is absolutely brilliant. Welcome to Talking Sinfeld, the podcast where we discuss everything we know about the show about Nothing, and this week we are here to review the episode of the Pez

Dispenser. I am Dando, I am guy Dando. Are you doing my name? I'm doing very well, sir, had a nice weekend or just discussing off here that went out with the lovely wife of mine, Nicola, who congratulations. By the way, I'm not sure if I said on this podcast yet, but she was promoted to manager of her workplace. She now manages all of Victoria and all of Tasmania, two whole states she's a manager

of. I didn't realize it was two whole states. Yeah. Yeah, So she's now running the business for the state, and she's running the business at you're a state. Yeah yeah, me managing me far more difficult than managing her business. But yes, congratulations to my lovely wife, Nicola,

who's out in there. And not the best thing about my wife too, is she's so understanding and so supportive of this show and everything we do here at the four Finger Discount Network. That she's managing the state at our kitchen table so we can have this office space to do our podcast. Oh that's just saintly. It is what it is. Yes, she is spongeworthy, but anyway, yes, so what about you? What do you do for the weekend? Very little and so happy about it. It's so good.

When I was just saying that, you know, you've just got a couple of hours and of no interruptions because I mean, I've got kids. You've lived with Louise, live Luise, but Louise is most of your time. He's your kids running around, he there and everywhere. And they're older, so they're louder than you know they're they're basically young adults just running around the house. But when there's no one in the house, it's just used to us, like it's just our time, baby. We can just watch whatever

we want. We can we can get to sleep for two hours. It crosswords into bed. Didn't By the way, that sounded so nice. When when he said that, I was like, young Dando wouldn't get that. Thirty four year old Dando gets it and appreciates it and has it in his favorite moments. I just love that life. We did a crossword in the bed, and the sheer joy of George just we did a crossword in the bed. It sounds amazing. He made it sound like the most appealing thing,

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nutshell at the time. It's just a simple premise, not a whole lot going on, but still it's the dialogue that makes it. There's not a lot when it comes to like scenarios. The scenarios aren't grand, it's not a huge deal going on scenario wise, but just the banter back and forth, it was just a whole lot of fun in this I thought very much. So yeah, I mean, just as Friends has its titles, the

one with Seinfeld does as well. But I mean, yeah, you primarily go, oh, yeah, this is the one with the pest dispencer. And I was calling the pest dispenser of course, but yeah, you're not really thinking so much about the plot or or the story or anything like that. You really are sort of remembering bits and pieces and how it makes it fun. I always just whatever I hear the pest dispenser, I think of Jerry doing the little clap with a pest dispenser. And you mentioned dialogue as

well. But one thing that really struck me about this episode, and look, There are episodes before this one that we've reviewed and we've brought it up, but this really struck me as having that particular Seinfeld rhythm. You know, It's just the way certain lines are delivered, the way scenes sort of the way actors bounced one another, way scenes perculated along. It just felt

quintessentially Sinefeld to me. What I liked about this story was how they managed to get something as insignificant as a pesti spencer and highlight that's something so tiny and so small can create such chaos they put into the wrong hands because all of this started because Joey put a little pest spencer in a lane lap and that was it by personally blown Cramer for this for just you know, bringing it into their world in the first place. Yeah, that's that's the question.

And they play on that as well because they say Cramer indirectly caused Richie to get onto the too drugs and whatnot, and he also indirectly was the reason that or everything goes to ship in this episode as well. Absolute agent of chaos, that man just causing trouble wherever he goes, No, not intending to. There's no malice in Cramer, but just the way he goes about things throws the universe into disarray. That is a good one. Still,

So what were your favorite moments from the episode. I'm a big fan of George in general, just trying to control everything, you know, not only his relationship with Noel, but you know when when there's that first meeting, that when Jerry and elinare first going to meet Noel, and you know, he sort of wants everyone to listen to me. I'm telling you how things are. I'm the boss here. Like you, you must be feel sorry and be embarrassed and apologize to me, or at least be not not

what's the way? Just be sorry for what they've done. And that is ain't care. That don't care and nothing more irritating when someone's done something wrong and they're showing no remorse for it. It's like, be sorry, that's what you say. Sorry. But I think the bit, the bit of that that I love the most was just when he said something about cut to the chase and Jerry just can't believe cut to the chase. What are you,

Joe? Hollywood. It's always funny when someone when a friend of yours and someone you can take the piss out of without them taking it too personally, or someone you can call on being a bit of a wanker and them

not being completely heartbroken by going and you've probably got a point. They try to incorporate some cool new slang or you know, they're they're trying something that's just not them and they're trying just a little bit too hard, and you sort of have to pull the reins back on on the lit and scene, it's no, don't do that, not even don't do that. So I don't do that. Don't do that. That's why I had a friend of mine who kept trying to kept trying to say, that's a vibe. I

don't start this. It sounds stupid coming out of your mouth. It sounds stupid coming out of anybody's mouth. I do apologize. There's any listeners out there that do say that, you know, more power to you. But this friend of mine, when he kept saying that's a vibe, like, stop it, stupid, it's not a vibe. You're creating a bad one by saying it. Stop it. Please just doct trying to make fair chapp and buddy, Yeah, I really enjoyed just George's sheer glee at the start

of this and obviously another episode another George girlfriend, but that aside. But I just really enjoy just we did a crossway in bed. I was like, that's awesome. George, for all his faults, and he does have many deserves a w every once in a while, he deserves a win, and it feels like he had one at the start here. You know, even though George being George, he of course is going to self sabotage but saying she's just too good for me, and you know, all that kind

of business. But it did sound like, well, first of all, invariably, you're going to be punching above your weight. Men are always punching above their weight. I know, I certainly am. I'm sloping with the boss now, mate, I'm sorry. That just cracks me up. But the fact that he sounds so happy, Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, we're both coming back to the crossword in bed. It's weird how that's just become how shorthand for like ideal relationship relationship goals, Well,

I've got here for all these faults. George must be doing something right with the ladies, because he's getting a lot of girlfriends. He can't keep them because, like he said, he self sabotages, but he said to be able to get them pretty well. That's the thing. I think it's about Jason Alexander as well. I mean, not necessarily the most handsome man, and you know, he's kind of I don't know how old George is meant

to be in these things. I think we talk about this a lot because it's like early to mid thirties on the shom Yeah, I know, he's got the receipted hairline and you know he's not exactly buff and he's not a big guy, but there's just something about him. He's kind of he's got a weird charisma. I mean, people talk a lot about Kramer's weird charisma and how he's kind of a man in some ways. But that's because he plays that. His character needs that, like Michael Richard plays that up.

He does have that charisma, but he really that's that's his stick for the show where George he has a lot of other things going on for him. But you're right though, Jason Alexander, there's something about it and it just makes you go, you're not that attractive, but there's something about you that makes me just want to be with you. Yeah. I've mentioned in the past that, you know, Jason Alexander was in the cast of this eighties

early eighties horror movie called The Burning, a real slasher movie. Always bring this up. You love it. It's weird for me to say that love it because it's a gross horror movie. I mean, it's insanely bloody. It's just disreputable to the max. But it's the first time I saw Jason Alexander. And you know, he's got his still got his hair in this, and he's playing kind of the the Bill Murray type at the summer camp. You know, he's he looks far too old to be an actual camper

there. I think he might be a counsel or something like that. But he's just got a real energy. It's like, this is the kind of ago you want to be around. He's the kind of you know, he walks in, it's like, hey, the party started. So even though he was by the way, he was he was thirty two when this episode came out. Okay, so he's got a few Yeah, he's still got

some miles on the meter at this stage. And you know, the hair's gone, he's got the love handles, but that energy is still there even if, like, even though he's playing it down as George Costanza, who's kind of this born loser, that that charisma is still there. You can't wholly deny it. So maybe that's it. Maybe that's women see it and they want it as as someone who's thirty four. Now I find it not

confronting that the fact that he's thirty two. But I think it's because I grew up and when Sifel was first on, I was so young, so I always saw these people Jerry, Elaine Cramer, George as old people. But I'm now older than what they were in that show was made. It's just like, oh shit. It's like when I when you're a kid, you think your parents are so old, and I'm like, no, but dad was like twenty seven. He was an old at all. When I was a kid, like he seemed like he was a real old person.

Now I'm like, it makes me feel like because we went out for drinks last Friday night Nicola Enough for the first time in ages like a pool hall slate here in Gelong, and there's all these sort of like twenty year olds walking amaut, I'm thinking at certain points where I'm thinking he's like girls like looking at me, thinking, who's this fucking old guy? Like I don't feel old, but sometimes I have those moments where I'm like and they looking

at me, judging me, saying, who's this old guy? Thinking he questioning who do you think he is? Hanging out all these kids? Like it just it felt weird. And the weirdest thing was, and I pointed this out to Nicola, was that there was like girls and guys there who were like four or five years below me at high school who are now like grown adults. And I'm like, wow, this is just so strange. I think it's just because I don't go out very often. I probably would

if you saw them all the time, it wouldn't matter. But just like, I haven't seen you since you were year eight. Now you're like in your mid twenties. What's happening here? It was just, yeah, it's tough. I'm getting older. I mean, I'll find myself. You know, I'll be at the supermarket, for instance, in here, go through the checkout and you'll be having a not banter with the young person you know

behind the counter or whatever. Manning the checkout, but asking how they Yeah, but you sort of realize, oh my, that old person who's like, how's your day going? All right? Are you're doing a very good job. It doesn't help that you're doing your Bobby impersonation. That's that's not a Bobby in person, that's just just very old person. What's your Bobby impersonation? I thought it was your Bobby. I don't know if I can

imitate Dad. I'll give it a well, but I'm not going to certainly do it off the off the bat right now, Okay, But then realizing oh well, you sort of have to keep yourself in checking out, Okay, don't try make sure that what you're saying to this person who is probably three decades and change younger than you. Make sure you're not that sleazy old guy who's like just talking to the kids like you're one of the kids, just like, oh you you must be on that TikTok. Yeah, show

you going out after this day. I heard a guy say that to this girl. It happened last week. I was picking up a gift for Holly from Big w here in Geelong and this girl was serving and there was the guy in front of me, and he goes, and because it was us, that was Friday. It was Friday when I was picked up, And he goes, Friday night must be a night for you. You're going out with your friends tonight. And I'm like, don't ask this girl that.

She looks like she's sucking twelve, like she's an old guy, like just going out tonight. Ah, yeah, I'm sure you have a good time tonight with your friends. Yeah, yeah, you'd like to drink? Do you like? This is pedophile? When I when he asked, when he asked, the hold you like to drink? I was like, what is going on? So, yeah, there's that realization when you get a few

more miles on the man's oh yeah, keep yourself with check. When you're sort of talking, there's a fine line between I appreciate your You've got a fairly average job here, I'm doing my best to sort of show my appreciation for at the same time, Yeah, you don't want to be like, yeah, rap up in a couple of airs, do what's happening? Then yeah, it's like you're you're a truly when there's no schooldies on, it's terrible. Yeah, exactly, Now, this episode is called the pest Dispense.

Obviously, the whole thing is about the chaos that has created from this pest dispense being put on a Lane's lap. Were you ever a pest dispenser guy? I was never really a pest dispenser. I think I had several. I've got a couple of You've got a few Muppets ones, and when we used like the Muppets ones, and Atlie's got a couple they seem to sort of stil make them out. It's got a couple of superhero ones. But I was never a pest dispenser guy. It was always too difficult to

load them, and I just gave up. I was like, it's too hard. It's given me a lollipop. Yeah, pretty much, isn't it? Like this seems like a lot of effort to go for a little bit of a sugary treat. I'll remember pest dispense were kind of a big thing when I was a kid, And yeah, look, I'm sure I had a few of them. They probably had times and things like Star Wars and all that kind of person. I probably had a Darth vade on one or

something along those lines. But yeah, I can't see it's funny. I'm wondering how far out of the pop culture consciousness they'd been when this episode aired, because it's like a lot apparently in Jesson Alexander says, because of this episode, suddenly they were like reborn again and everyone was walking in with a pest dispenser and Pez were like so thankful, and I'll sending them free pears and they made a Jerry Pez for Jerry and a George Run for Jason and

whatnot. But he was saying they didn't intend for that. They didn't mean that. They didn't actually expect that. The whole joke was that this pest dispenser so insignificant, no one likes him anymore. They didn't think that there was going to create a boom, but it did. And just and he said that Jason was saying in the in the inside look that it was the first time in his experience that he realized, wait a minute, this show has some power now. Was Seinfeld a show that seemed to have some sort

of like impact in Australia. I always never really saw it as one that did that. But we're people walking around and doing the whole YadA YadA YadA, And I think certainly around this period of the show as well, when it's really it's done to gain a bit of momentum, YadA, YadA, YadA, No soup for you. I mean this is all stuff down the line, of course, but yeah, yeah, when it was in it in its groove and not just an America in Australia, Yeah, there was

a lot of you know, these particels are making me thirsty. And it's a very catchphrase heavy show, and that's a short cut to just worming your way into someone's head if you've come up with a a nifty one liner that you can sort of drop in if you don't have the ability to come up with jokes on your own, but if you do have the ability to realize if I say no soup for you here in relation to something, I'm going

to be the life of the party for like a split second. Yeah, and Seinfeld really has a lot of those, So yeah, I mean that's one of the one of the big reasons it became popular. I'm sure would you say that it's all like the nineties equivalent of the eighties, maybe equivalent of like funko pops, just like a fad. I think Smurfs for the eighties equivalent of Funco Pops. Smurfs were humans. Smurfs is a licensed Funco have all these different licenses and they make their designs. Oh okay, yeah,

so like Pez is like a thing. They can get all different licenses and brands and apply it to their model. That's a good way of putting it. Actually, yeah, I hadn't really thought of it that way, but yeah, I mean, certainly, PEZ put a whole bunch of different heads on top of their little dispenses, and I seemed to record it was a bit of m I'd like that one, please, Yeah, yeah,

yep, you're get the whole set. The last thing I really enjoy about this episode, by the way, before we getting to trivia, I feel like you would would have really liked this as well, was the conversation about pouch envy. At least give me a pucket. I love that old guy. He was fantastic from the bowler like he was given a few lines, but he ate them up. Man, what you don't want to be a bowler anymore? To gold by very funny? Could you spell that? Please?

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a lot of people are either five or seven. It's what is it about five and seven? It's just five and seven to so many people's favorite number. M I'm very curious. Now, why do you think that would be the case. I have no idea but like whenever I played Keynote, like Nicolas playing Keynote, it's we always just choose three to five seven, and we have never not one at once. So have you picked three numbers

in Keyno? You get like fifty bucks? You win fifty bucks, right, And we always put on twenty games, and every single time we've won at least once, So it costs twenty bucks. We always walk home double em money. So three to five seven, if you ever play Keyno, do it. Maybe that's the reason my first question to you, Yeah, George, hands Jerry a can of something? What is it? I was just the one that I was talking about. This should be more popular.

No, no, it's not mentioned at all, but you can see it and you distinctly know what it is that I'm gonna say, diet coke, and you would be correct in doing. Jerry just seems like a diet coke kind of guy, don't you reckon? Ye? Come on, be a coke zero going to go. We've talked about it. I think I would have had coke zero, not no, not coke zero or not even coke no sugar, just coke and diet coke, not even coke clear. It's

gone. They probably had new coke and that's forget. My next question is what was the name of the old guy who was killed by the gatorade? That's the club owner, and his name was Marty Benson? Correct? Yes, m What temperature is it when Kramer swims in the morning with the polar bears? Nah? Got me? What is it? He said it was twenty nine degrees, which I not only assume is fahrenheit. We've talked about this our American friends. Get with the program. Get celsius, get feet,

I mean get centimeters, not feet cephrend degrees fahrenheit into celsius. Is it is minus one point six? That ship is cold? And my final question here for the pest of Spencer is how old was Mrty when he died? That I don't know, but I want to say sixty five, oh, nearly sixty seven. He should have go with your lucky number, your lucky number, which I have a question for you if he wants them more. And it's funny because you mentioned earlier about the drink, but what is

on what are two of the things on George's conversation list with Noel? Ah? Yeah, how he can reverse park is that right, that's one first park. And why is it's posted or something? Why is more popular drink? It's called post them? I didn't look it up. What is post them? Do you think it's a replacement for coffee? Oh? Okay, yeah, So basically, if you don't want to drink coffee, you drink this. And a lot of Mormons drink it because they were they don't drink

coffee, so they would drink this instead. But I'm not a coffee drinker at all, so I don't need it. I don't need a replacement. I just don't want it at all. But yes, you've got any more trivia questions for me before we get into our review? Oh? I think that order to do is don't you think let's let's jump into the episode.

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two. It was written by Larry David and directed by who Mister Davis, Tom Sharonez, starring Fred Sanders as John and Elizabeth Moorehead as Nowel, and we're just discussing just then. I think Elizabeth really appeared in much, which surprised and because I thought she did a great job as Noel. She was very good in this and we'll get to it when we get to it. But she, you know, is the she puts the Kappa on the episode

very very nicely. But yeah, I think, like you, Dana looked up her CV, they looked at Presidium, looked up her other credits. Once this episode was done. It's like, you know, she had one of those actor's careers where it's like I'm gonna guest Daron Roll on this and this. You know, she was a lead on this probably short lived show. But yeah, not an actor's career, not a star's career, but you know, an actor's career. But she's terrific in this episode. Yeah,

just plays very well with the Seinfeld crew. You brought up the ending there with the Kappa of that where you're gonna you're gonna need it whatever she says it without the hand. It's not very often that Seinfeld has moments like that. That was a very sick, coomed kind of ending, and it wasn't a bad one. It was funny, and because they don't do it all the time, it stood out more and it works here and it feels like it actually meant something more where if this is how every episode ended to

be, just like another one liner. But yeah, it's felt odd in the Seinfeld universe to have such a Bazinger moment, you know, kind of yeah. I mean, I think Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld kind of very much marched to their own rhythm. They're not necessarily yeah, we're just going to make a sitcom. Like every other sitcom. Ours is going to be very representative of our sense of humor. So you're right when it does have a close outliner this where it's sort of I don't know if you hear the

audience here going whoa mastivation joke on TV? But at the same time, I mean, it is such a good example of that that, I mean, I've wrote it when I was like, the minute they start talking to my hand, I'm pretty sure someone said you're talking about hand boy, You're definitely gonna need your hand after this, and I was like, okay, well that's how we close out, and then you sort of reverse all the engineer all the hand stuff from there. Yeah, this is sort of like

the planting the seed for the contest episode. True, but it was test out a masturbation gag and see how it goes, crowd to see how it's wrong with it, see how it flies. Yeah, I thought the whole whole moment was handed very well. But anyway, so the episode kicks off with some stand up with Jerry discussing women in their perfume. Women put on their perfume in an interesting way. I love watching them do that. You ever notice that guys and they have those their little key stratego and places they

think we're gone, and they hit this one. Women had convinced that this is the most action packed area that could ever happen in the dating world. What is that, lady? What is happening here? Is that? Is that in case you slap the guy or he still finds you intriguing Chanel, I like the after shaved on the wrist right. For some reason, I spray after shape. I don't know why I do that. Apparently it's a it's a like a the human pheromone dispenser. It's where, Yeah, that's

where a lot it's on your neck. I've always gone wrist. Yeah, Joey makes fun of women for putting it down, Like, but that's where everyone does it? Is it not everyone does that? I felt insecure after do that. I was like, am I not supposed to be doing this? Make sure not take note whenever you interview Jerry, don't say you put after shape on your wrist. Fuck him. But it is funny how a

sitcom will kind of hand determined your behavior moving forward. Friends did it really well because they did the thing where, um, do you check you? If you're a man, you you're supposed to check your finger and I was by folding your fingers into your into your hand sort of not not quite a fist, but you do it, put in your hand out yeah, yeah, as opposed to being a woman and you look at the back of it.

I remember being and like you. I remember being like year eight and a girl asked me that she must't just watch the Friends episode or something, and I did it and all the fans giggled and I was like, what are they laughing at? And my friends like it means it gay, and I'm like complex forever, I know, I'm pretty sure that there's anything wrong with that. But when I'm in year eight, you know, in two

thousand and two it was a concern. Well, I'm pretty sure that every every time since watching that episode of Friends, and I've had to check my finger. I was I'm like, make sure you do the claw even though it means nothing, but you know, it sticks with you, doesn't it. Or I'm not doing it when anyone's around, I'll do it alone. So no, no, no, what did Oh? Yeah that was that is good? Yeah. But anyway, so George is he's very excited talking

about his new girlfriend, Noel. She's a professional pianist. She's a pianist, a classical pianist. She plays the piano. She's a brilliant woman. I sat in the living room. She played the Waldstein, so the Waltstein. We did a crossword puzzle together in bed. It was the most fun I ever had in my entire life. Do you hear me in my life? You know we're talking. I couldn't hear anything. Jerry is a very dismissive friend, isn't he? Oh? Sorry, are we talking? I

wasn't listening, so you heard every word? Just being a dick. Yeah, it's not the one who plays the bongos. And as you were saying earlier, he's just he's got George's that friend that but they got it. It comes the point though, where just be nice occasionally. And Jenny does be nice occasionally, but the friend who's a punching bag, they have a breaking point and you can usually tell when they're getting close to it, and

you don't back off. Now, we have talked about this on the show in the past, whether it's on On Talking Seinfeld or on four Finger Discount or Going Down South Park or Movie Guys or the other shows you're here in the four figure Discount of any of the many shows in which we talk about

all men are of interesting things. But yeah, how men kind of have that way of displaying affection or acceptance of someone by taking the piss which which means for international listeners that means making fun of, but like a in a fun way. I'm not sure taking the pisss has gone overseas yet. I

think it's not taking urine. Our British friends know, yes, I'm poking fun at But at the same time, if you if it's a friend that you've had for quite some time or no, I think you know even if you're you realize there's so far you can go, and you know, when you've even taken to like you put a little pinky toe across that line. Oh wait a minute, no, no, no, sorry, I shouldn't

have done that. Shouldn't have said that, mate, And then you spend the next I don't know, five to ten minutes sort of like mate, good luck good yeah, just yea big upping them until you can start, you know, poking them again. So George is he's very uncomfortable with the new situation, new relationship because he's got no power. She has the upper

hand, and in hand is it's tough to get. So George he invites Jerry and Elaine to to come watch her play at a recital and perhaps they can get for dinner afterwards, so she can kind of see him in his natural habitat with his friends. And I think that he has some form of power in this relationship. And this is where Kramer enters and says, smell my arm. And I was like, oh, it's the beach episode, which eventually gets stolen, but this is, you know, the initial introduction.

That's actually what I like about the Kramer character. And I've never realized that when watching Sciper for the initially was that Kramer seems to have these stories that go across various episodes where the other characters don't like it's it's George, Elaine and Jerry are very much the story happens in an episode and it comes to an end, but you've got a Cramer. The previous one was The Jacket, which went across several episodes across seasons. Even so, like Cramer's

there he talks about the beach here. Eventually it gets stolen the idea. But I watched this and went, this is similar to my theory of a burning candle that smells like garlic and onions cooking. I want that in my house. I've said there's thousand times like, oh yeah, I would be in an instant millionaire if I could come up with a centered candle smelled like yeah, suteting onions, Oh my god, that's good candle. And yeah, but his his idea about you know, um, yeah the beach.

Yeah that's great. That that's a really good idea. Yeah. I wonder though, would it be a scent that you would eventually like it's the initial center's like, oh that's nice, that's alluing but would you want to that your partners to smell like that all the time. I think it'd be a good way of attracting somebody, But I don't think I would want Nicola to smell like the beach all the time. Well, here's the thing. I

mean, first of all, we're with Nicola. Does she have like one does he have like a signature scent that she uses or does she have an array of them for certain occasions? And likewise you do you have? I have just whatever my mum bought from Christmas the year before. Really, I don't pay you really any contention. It's a Calvin Clients something probably actually is

called Galvan Clients something that's got that. It's got that really sophisticated app with you know, some hot looking French dude in black and white and it's like Galvin Glean something something something something. I m used, what was it called

Links Africa? I don't really, but that was like the and if you're in high school, if you went to the change rooms after pe class, was a lot of links going around that at its just and they were combined in the middle of the room and it's just it's all big, very smells of sweat and links terrible anyway, But yeah, the beach a good concept and I think, um, yeah, obviously it does pay off from the end for somebody else. Yeah, but I think you'd use it every once

in a while. It would be very much a summer kind of scent. Uh And yeah, not every day but and probably not when you're going down the coast or anything like that. But say you were going to you know, some nice looking like a barbecue and afternoon slash, you know, Barney summer eve. It's like it on the wrists, smell like sea. I think I think my three favorite smells would have to be guy can cooking freshly cut grass reminds me of Saturday mornings Dad cut in the grass just when he

had not a care in the world. And probably a wood fire. Yeah. What about you? What are your what are your three go to cents? Well, definitely, yeah, sorte the other two for you? I mean, I love when you're walking down the road and you can smell that someone's got a wood fire and then the smoke's coming out. What about you?

What are your two? That is nice? Look? It sounds obvious to say that I'm a fan of sort of like beachy smells given though we're just talking about the ocean here, But I am very partial to that. You know, I wouldn't. I don't really like going to the beach because I'm very pale and I'm like Anakin skywalker, and I don't like sandy gets

everywhere. But I do love the smell of it. You know, just when you've pulled into the car park, you know you've got a little bit of a walk to go to the beach with, you sort of get out, m that's fresh, and then you get out of the car and you're like, tides out. What's my third I like pine? Okay, like a pine scent. Yeah, so you'd be big on a real Christmas tree then, yeah, true train Do you ever have Christmas trees in your house

at Christmas time? Just a little one? I have tiny one that's in the cupboard and I sort of take that out and got a few little lights on it, and let's put that up. Why don't you get a big one? Did you get a big one? I don't want it enough? Your choice? Yeah, we we just we just bought a new one. We've had the same tree for like twelve years. It was just it was a pain. Every time you'd like we'd pull it out, it's a little bits of green ship would fall over the floor. So we bought a newer

one. It is a little bit bigger, but it's got the pre lit lights I built into it to save that hasn't having to put lights on it much better. Well, I know you like your Christmas, so yeah, it makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, definitely getting back to the episode though, that was a slight detour there. But yeah, So Kramer, he's got the beach. He talks about the beach, and then he says that he's joined the Polar Bear Club. That smells good. What is

it the beach? The beach, yeah, to go swimming. It's one on the Gizer. No, I just joined the Polar Bear Club. Did you join the Polar Bear's people? They go swimming in the winter, they're they're terrific. I just took my first swim today. It's invigorating. Yeah, so shock therapy. But then Kramer says he's got pees dispenser and Jerry's like, oh, Pez, it's kind of like one of those things where you go, I remember those. I love those. Yeah. Yeah,

it's like someone pulling out like a wat of footy cards from here. Yeah, you're like, fuck, I love these things, And about five minutes you're like, yeah, what else you go? But yeah, it's I love it when someone that's bringing up a story and pulling something out of the cupboard and just triggers a memory from your childhood that you're like, oh, happy times. And it's just it's just that nostalgia kick. Besides maybe an orgasm. Is there a better feeling and love? Is there a better feeling

than a nostalgia kick? Well? True? Yeah, something that takes you back to watching for Apple for you, I believe he said something like in your dressing game, watching the sound of music on a Saturday night or something. You know, a real kick of nostalgia. That's a great feeling at your reckon. Yeah, a real uh you know Anton Ego the restaurant creek having his first bite of rat having but rather to well, yeah, to the point where it's so strong that you feel dizzy. But it's like whoa

that was? Like? That was that was something you know? I had small version of out the other day because I was cleaning out the laundry and realized, oh, there's a couple of these boxes beyond the door. Here, what's in there? And there was a bunch of magazines from the two thousands and I thought i'd thrown out You wrote this on social media, yeah, and I was like, oh, oh, I kept pretty much all of them. Oh that's neat, and yeah, sort of put them into

part. It's like, okay, well, looks like someone's going down to office work to get one of those big plastic containers. So you know these going to be kept, you know, relatively staying and element no more wear and tear on them. So but I was looking through them, a go, oh yeah, I remember, oh gosh, I remember it, like reading this one on the train when I was, you know, going back and forth to Melbourne for work and all that kind of stuff. Oh you

ever pulled them out again? Though? Do you think that's a good question? Maybe like ten years from now, this is where I've got like, this is where I need to draw a live for myself because I'm terrible wanting to keep things like that. Yeah, and after they asked myself you forgot you had them? Now that you know you've got them, do you still think you're ever going to pull them out again? There was a There was a period though, where I was like, oh, man, I shouldn't

have thrown those out. I mean, I thought I thought i'd dumped them. I've got I've got a story for you, continued, but yeah, no, no, no, that's that's the end of the month. It's like, I thought I'd thrown these out and it turns out that I had them. So so are you prepared to have your heart broken? But constantly. My uncle once gave me the three giant boxes right full of magazines, and I kept them for years and years and years. I sent in their

garage. She got to the point where Nicholas like and it was Nicholas fault sense. She's like, you never read them, what's the point in having them? Just get rid of them? Like, yeah, you're right, I've never I just liked the idea of having them. Right. It was every Empire magazine from nineteen ninety seven through to two thousand and one, every

one of them. It's even likely ninety five was like six sears worth of Empire magazines, everyone in like pristine condition or condition, all in like slea sleep Minael kept them in perfect condition. And I was like, oh wow, I was backing down and go I should have kept him. But then I think about him, like most of the ship that was in those magazines

you probably just find online anyway, you know. But it's just I know, back now, I think I often think Guy would have really have liked those Thanks man, But I don't think I knew you at that point, but you would have been my first point of gold have gone, I'll just dumped him at your house. I would have had him for like three weeks and then gone, these are taking its face. Hey, I just bought it at the flea market. Hey, what goes on there exactly? You

don't know? No, I know, I know you think they have fleas there, don't you? Yes, you do both. You've never been to a flea market and you think they have fleas there? All right? I think they have fleas there? So they didn't anyway? Does it? So George doesn't really know what a flea market is. I thought, well, they're gonna go to the flea market. They don't. But that is part of Larry David's gene yes, I think, I mean, purely for that line, I was like, you think they've got fleas at the flea market?

Day. I don't like you start thinking, what the hell do they call it a flea mark? I'm pretty sure I thought they called it a flea market because you know, they sold fleas or some reason like that. I end up looking it up. Apparently they call it a flea market because it's yeah, it's got some I think in France they called it something and it's the vague translation was something like flea market. Okay, yeah, but I did look up what pez stands for pez dance for something? I think

in French as well. Hang, is it an acronym? Pe Z comes from the German word of peppermint. That's what it is. Pehemin's so capital p F lowercase feu, capital e r m I n z. So the capitals P e Z from that word peppermint pez. You go to kids,

The more you know, the more you know. Yeah, that's definitely, that's that's the kind of thing that you you know, three years from now, is you got to a trivia night, that's the kind of shit they'll ask you, what does Pestanfine, everyone's going to think, oh, it must stand for three different words. No, it's just purple month. It's a geman peppermint. Yeah. Yeah, And you'll be the hero of the

night. I feel like, um, the Flea Market was a scin Feld episode that would have worked for sure, those guys walking about a flea market. Can you imagine the fun they could have goten up to? True? But maybe too maybe too many sets, I mean, I think Seinfeld likes to keep it relatively isolated. Maybe a later probably the later season that was always not always but they were very much being at about. But yeah, I think the I think the freak would have been would have been fun.

I think it would be a fun game to play with our listeners, throw out of title each week and get our listeners to come up with a story for each character based on that title, and that the best one that we choose wins the prize. What do you want? That's good if we want to hand out price willy nilly, But I won't answer what the prize is. But I'm in discussions with a sponsor for the show I'm going to hand out and and listens of our show we'll appreciate it, and prizes will be

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do they plan backstage? Do they crack their knuckles? What do they do? And George says, now, don't clap right away because when she stopped, when she stops, she's not finished. Very patronizing, isn't he? Oh that was directed at me at a moment like that with someone's something in a grip. But it's like you're looking at me when you see right, you think going to be the one that Yeah, even if they haven't

said it directly, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I've had that word. It's like Yeah, that's that's me. You're talking about it and nothing worse. The recital begins, it's going well until Jerry puts the paste dispenser on her lap. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not really sure why Elaine thought that was so funny, But that's just life in general. Sometimes things just tickle you and you just cannot explain why. You just can't stop laughing about it.

It's just oh yeah, and she yells out Joe Gibbs here, it's like a form of football player or something I don't get. And I've looked online and no one could work out why she says it when she's laughing, I'm going to join that group because I've got no idea why she's no. No. But but as I was saying, no, it's just because I watched for Nicola Nicholas, Like, why is she laughing so much of this?

I'm like, it's just one of those things where in life you just sometimes things just make you laugh and no matter and for the next like five minutes, you find everything hilarious. Well, it strikes me as a perfectly natural human reaction to being in a very stuffy environment, you know, I mean you're sitting in a room. You're listening to someone play piano, not exactly sort of jaunty didn't didn't ingting, but pretty deep classical music she does

Actually I know what she does, actually play. She plays. It's Beethoven's Wolstein Sonata. So apparently this was the same piece that was played in a similar scene from George Cooker's Gaslight Oh Okay, in which a person doesn't walk out laughing, they walk out crying. Well, there you go. But you know, you're in this situation where, yeah, you've basically got to

be a grown up. You know, it's like, Okay, we've got our got our good clothes on, and we're gonna sit here very you know, very seriously, and we're gonna pay attention to this music and we're going to revel in, you know, just how accomplished this person playing it is, and to just do something so childish and not even yeah, not clever at or not inventive, but just like, check this out. It's a little purchase. It's the most incongrus thing that could happen in the environment.

No, yeah, no, wonder you're going to start laughing, and then I think in your brain you realize there's nothing funny about this, but it's funny, and that makes it even funnier. It sort of it becomes of a petual motion machine laughing. Yeah, yeah, that's I've certainly found that in your life, in my life, and I'm sure sure you found in your life as well, that you'll just start laughing at something and you just can't stop. The fuse has been lit and you can't cut it off anywhere.

I get that sometimes when I'm watching like Classic Simpsons, like when we're doing our classic reviews, and I'm just like, I just have to pause it sometimes, and it happened inside at his wife. Sometimes it comes moments in episodes where go to pause and I'm just like, I can't concentrate right now that it's just too funny, and I laugh and I cry for like five minutes, and then I can post myself. I get back to it, and then I think afterward, I'm like, the moment wasn't even that

funny. Why did I have that response for you? Why why did you respond to it that way? What was so funny about that? I can't really explain it. It's as individual as your fingerprints. I mean, I remember seeing the movie Fantastic Mister fox yep ages and asy I was about ten years old now. But and there's just a bit of where I think he's played by Javis Cocker from Pulp and he's singing a song, you know, I'm about the three Farmers, about Bogus Bunsen Been and one of them comes

in and said, what are your singing? Pete goes. I was just making it up as I go along and everything It's like, that's just bad. So that's just weak songwriting. You write a bad song, Pete and flix a cigarette at him. I laugh for like five minutes straight. People in the I was singing at a preview, and all the other review was just looking at me like what the fuck is wrong with him? And why is he laughing at that so much? Why is he still laughing at it?

He's really kind of disrupting the film for us. But I couldn't stop until this day when it's on him, like, that's really funny. Did that old guy did that old review? I have a go at? You remember the guy had a go at the kid for the phone. What was his name there was probably Tom Ryan put your phone no way or something? Didn't even something something like that. Yeah, good, good guy Tom Ryan. I think he I think he realized, no guys enjoying this, let

him let him have it. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was not laughing trying to disrupt, and you just are just actually generally enjoying the film. That's fine. Yeah. I've been enough previews and enough screens and other stuff where there are certain people they will just, oh, you're letting us know that you're enjoying this, aren't you. Yeah. I mean it's not a fake laugh. But it's like you can tell, yeah, yeah, you can stop that anytime, or you can you can gradually. You

can usually tell. You can usually tell when someone's really laughing, because I'll spend the first ten twenty seconds or so trying not to laugh loud, and you can hear that they're like it's killing them inside, not laughing, like they're not they're not just going ha ha Patton. I was like, they're

just like happy to get this out. You'll go a few you'll go like ten twenty seconds, and then it'll just reserves a little bubb You try to think of something else and then you think you immediately think of that again. You're like, oh, guy, here it comes. I think I had that. There was the last Terminator movie, that dark fake one. Did you remember that one? I never watched it. I know what you're talking about. I never watched it. Was no why I don't think there's a

spoiler. It's not. It's not really m Arnold the Terminator has essentially renounced being a Terminator. He's still a robot with Arnold's skin on top. Arnold skin on top, but he's living like a human life and he works as like a curtains and drapes. Guy, I need to watch this now. It just on the film, and that should be the whole film. But that's one bit where he's talking about he was selling selling drapes to someone and they said they wanted to buy these ones. I said, don't do it.

That's great, and it just started in the out of said I said, don't do it. We need more, we need more of this Arnold back I reckon very much so, but I was just, yeah, that takes me back to like early to mid nineties Arnold. He's still he's still an action start at the time, but it's when he started dabbling things like twins and kindergarten copinging all the way. Arnot's a really funny guy. Well yeah, I mean he knows how to play perfectly against the fact that he's

arned. But he did. He did that commercial a lot long ago for like was it Tesla in the electric car or something, and he was like, Zeus, I don't remember that one, and Samahayak was was his wife, okay, and they're like, I'm getting im tired of living here on Mount O Limbu's going to go down and live in Los Angeles, and you know, he and Sama Hyak are like, you know, driving around in the Tesla and he's recharging everyone's electric ship by using his Zeus lightning bolts.

It's on YouTube. It's actually pretty funny. But yeah, he's got a good sense of human It was just that whole I said, don't do it, just kill me. Anyway. Sorry, we're going off on so many tangents on this on the pees disen this episode is going to run so long. Yeah, it's fine, but anyway, So Elaine goes outside and she sees John Moniker. He approaches her outside and she goes, I thought you're

broken up with Jerry Wise. He now, no, no, we have broken up and it immediately starts hitting on it and I'm like, dude, not not the time, Like give it, give us some breathing space first. And we cut to the pez just sitting on the chair. That was funny, Yes, yeah, yeah, and then John explains that Richie Apple if their friend, he's messed up on drugs now and I and then suggests

interventional. A lot of people are doing it now, like it was like a I know, they started doing a lot the sixties of it was like a fad. And you've explained this in the past, where like late eighties to the early nineties when it really started picking up steam. Yeah, and I know the two episodes basically a decade apart. But we just did a Simpsons episode or four descaded on The Simpsons that had an intervention in it. It's weird. Everything just next isn't on this show. It's so But John

says that Richie would only ever listened to Jerry. You know, he really respects Jerry. Cut to Jerry clapping the pets. Yeah. Good performance by this guy with his name Fred Water who plays John Mulliker. Fred Sanders a nice blend of just enough creepiness. I mean, he really respects, Jerry,

I've just got in my notes. He's pretty much just a grown up version of Ralph Wigham, almost like season four, Season five Ralph Wigham, whereas like everybody says, he goes you know, you know, when Ralph says, I wouldn't have so many knows but put my finger up there is that kind of Ralph. Yeah, but yes, basically he's hitting on Elane. He realized that Joey's not with her anymore, and Joey's just disrupted, not disrupt him, but just being taken that he has taken the piss just

yeah, being very childish. So now we're backstage where we're waiting for no While to come out of her room. George, she's having a go at joe Lane. How could you do that? I'm sorry, George, I'm sorry. What did you put the pest dispenser on a leg for her in the first place? I don't know. It was an impulse? What kind of a sick impulse is there? How could I know she'd start to laugh? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I am Can we just go in already? What are we gonna tell her? I'll tell her I was the one

who laughs. No, don't say a word. If she thinks my friends are jerks, then I'm a jerk. Oh, remind me to talk to you about something later. What about? Hey, Hey, we're discussing something. I know, but I'm distracted. Now what are you a fable? All right? Tell her? When I was outside, I ran into John Molica, really John Molicae, the guy that used to want Barten at the comedy club. How's he doing? It's good? Could we cut to the chase? Cut to the chase? Yeah, well, what are you?

Joe? Hollywood? A lot of people say it. I would lose that. What's that? Lose that? That's not a Hollywood expression? Yes it is anyway. So John told me that Richie is in town from Los Angeles and he's really missed up on drugs. So I told him he should do an intervention, really an intervention. You know your people. We got a situation over here. Yeah, but he wants you to be a part of it. He says, Richie really respects you and he would listen to you.

These things are really hard to load. And then entered Noel's room and she's very embarrassed by what happened. What was she even laughing? At I thought it's another sort of like sit coming moment, but I thought it was headed very well. What were they even laughing at pears? But he's offering her a pears at the same time, I thought it was very good.

Jerry then rubs into a lane. You know, only a sick, twisted mind could be so rude and ignorant, or maybe some mental defective puts something stupid on her leg there just having having you go to each Noel doesn't realize it's a lane. At this point, Noel Dan says she will never forget that laugh, and she says that You're like, well, I know where this is going. Okay, well we gotta hear that again. Now.

I'm not sure or this would have aired first obviously, yeah, because The Nanny started ninety three, But it was a very similar episode of The Nanny where Alton John was the guest star and she says something or whatever, and she's like, maybe it's performing whatever, but and like Fran find your dat you who in her voice? But then and for the entire episode, he's

like, there was some annoying person and that voice just annoyed me. And she realized it was her, and at the end, she yells out to Alton and she says it and he realized that I was like, ah, and then he just completely stole that story from this episode. Like that's literally just did did you ever watch The Nanny? I almost loved Danny when I was growing up. I watched my share of episodes. Absolutely, you never

really see it anymore. It's not obviously syndications who watches free to air television anymore. But yeah, he's a honest streaming s's. That's not one of those shows that gets talked about all that often anymore. Every once in a while, so I'm want to bring it up and like, oh, fran Dresser, you know, Comic Powerhouse and Fashion Icon and all this kind of stuff. I mean, I think there's a lot of love out there for The Nanny. Whether it's it's love, I think the Nanny enjoy I think

the Nanny just it's just got a wholesomeness to it, hasn't it. I think so? Yeah, and I think the two were kind of indistinguishable. Yeah, it's I think people love the Nanny, but yeah, mostly they love for end Dresser. You're right, Yeah, so the world doesn't feel like going out he says, how do you prepare for for the evening playing recital? Just cracked my knuckles. I remember when I was younger, I hated people cracking my knuckles that the sound of it usaid to send chills down

my spine. I would like scream, I blocked my ears. I want to hear it. I want to hear it. I cracked my knuckles all the time. Now I just I just do it. It's like once I once I did it. I think once I leant down and put my this kind of motion, just like a closed fist, and leant down and my knuckles cracked. And I was like, oh, that's not so bad. It feels quite good. And the physio at um at four and I used

to work at Ford many moons ago. I remember him saying to me that there's no issue with crack because everyone know says you don't crack your knuckle when you get arthritis. But he told me cracking your knuckles is good because it's releasing all the built up gas or something that's built up in there. That's

what the sounds a unk. Yeah, who am I going with? Am I going with the people that tell me that's going to give me up the writis on my going with the professional here what it wants to go with the go with the broke. I mean I used to do the thing where it I don't know if you can see what I'm That's what I was just doing before. Yeah, you're cracking like that, Yeah, yeah, just sort of you don't. Sometimes sometimes I get a finger against Nikola because Nicola hates

it, hates it. Sometimes I put my finger against it like this. You can't see obviously, listeners, but I just rusted my finger against it and just sort of move my hand and it cracks it. She freaks out. Yeah. By the way, yes, listeners, we are actually be doing a whole lot of hand just showing each other how we crack our knuckles. Um, I was doing the thing with it looks like air quotes.

Yeah. Yeah, you put one finger on top of the other. Crack, crack, Ye, enough about the crack, Enough about the cracking. I thought this next moment was very rel edible, and we've all been in this moment where she just goes I I don't feel like it. We're just back away now very slowly and just keep my mouth shut. We've all been that point where we think we're just having fun and we don't realize we're pushing pushing any buttons like let's go out. I don't feel like going out.

Let's just got to go for a drink. I said, I didn't want to. Okay, okay, maybe I'll call you later and talk. We're now at Monks and Jerry thinks Kramer indirectly is involved in getting which he hooked on the Jergs because he suggested dumping gatorade on Marty Benson's head after they had to come back win playing. I want to say softball the baseball one of the two actually based on a real incident. Yeah, yeah, So do you want to explain to the listeners what it was? How about you do

it? I was based on the death of Hall of Fame football coach George Allen. Apparently in nineteen ninety he was doused in gatorade with gatorade shower and forty four days later he unfortunately passed away. Coincidence or not. I wonder if at the time doing this was seen as too soon because it would have been all over the news that happening in America might have been a big deal here in Australia, but that would have been huge news in America, and

just two years later they're almost poking fun at it on Seinfeld. Would that have sort of raised a few eyebrows? Do you think? I don't think so. I think I think enough people are getting doused with gatorade and for this one person that I was like, no, I think we can get away with it. Yeah. So Mrdy Benson passed away from pneumonia. Now he's dead. The comedians were happy because he wasn't a very nice guy apparently, but you know, Richie was never the same. What about Kramer?

Oh no, he's the same. When out Jerry's apartment and John wants to have the intervention there, my friend, she's not very confrontational. I don't want to. I wouldn't want to have it at my house either, because if they get angry, she starts going phone around the room. No way, Oh yeah, no, I'm not definitely not having an intervention at my place. Forget. I think it's gonna it's gonna be like a place where they feel safe. Though It's true, it's got to be a comfort zone

and take them out of the comfort zone. Yeah, yeah, Cramer wants he wants in on the intervention that I have this down exactly one of my favorite moments. It's like, well, can I get in on that. Also, I know a lot of people think Cramer is a fashion icon. I'm not. This is only one of those people. I did like the pink shirt he was wearing with like the is it like a flamingo or some

kind of bird on it? He doesn't like. We'll say it just has a quality, Michael Richards where you just like, you're not necessarily a good looking guy, but there's just something about the animalistic drawer of you. Yes, it's the vibe you put out. Oh, yes, that's definitely a vibe. Yes see, sometimes vibe works. Yeah yeah, I feel like I feel like you'll be interfering while we're intervening. But anyway, so they say Kramer can be a part of it. George is on his way up

and Cramer that gives the idea for the beach. Stop smelling your arm. You know, I got a great idea for along. It's called the beach. You're sprayder and it's just like you came home from the beach. M a cologne that smells like the beach. I can't believe I am saying this, but that's not a bad idea. Why don't you call Steve to Jeff. He worked in the marketing department at Calvin Kline. In fact, he's

a good friend of John Marliker and Richie. Also, if this show was made now, I guarantee you they would have had the Beach in production selling it in stores by the Christmas time, I imagine. So yes, I'm really surprised they didn't. Maybe it was just like a Jerry thing because he was very hesitant to license anything Sinfeld related until even until recently. But apparently it was a case of because they did the Poco pops and things like that,

but they're released like twenty five at once. Because I think it was just a case of Sinfeld were like, you can make your pops and then we're finished. It's not going to be a long drawn out thing. But you know, very very rarely was Sinfeld licensed in the nineties. He very rarely saw Seinfold merchandise in stores anywhere. Not to the best of my recollection, No, no, no no, but yeah, it seems like a

an opportunity to waste it there. I definitely, I definitely if I was a Seinfeld fan would have purchased the beach, even if it's just for the novelty of it, you know, just to own it. But he says to call Steve at Calvin Klein with the idea he might like it, and George's he's depressed. He's sad. He can sense that she's going to break up with him, so he's like, no, no, I was talking to on the phone. I even had a list prepared. Good reversing my

car post was more popular drink. I just love the good at reversing my car. I'm terrible at parallel parking. But sometimes I'm in the car of Nicola because Nikola King just nail and every time right. Sometimes I'm in the car and I can see there's a park. Then I'm like, if I drive past that, I'm going to look like a little man. I need to I need to do this. So I get there, and then when I managed to pour it off inside, I'm just like, you did that.

End the day. It's just the parallel park Oh yeah, But I mean if you do it, it's like one go. Yeah, you're just feeling like such a big man. Yeah, yeah, you're not having to go crunch hit the Okay, I'm gonna go back. Oh my angles are all off. That was my fear when I first met Nikola. I'm like, I don't want to. It's like, if I drive past it, I seem like I chickened out. But if I tempt it and fuck it up? What's worse a fucking up a parallel park or just going just going

no, I just can't do it. Owning up to it and finding an angle park? What's I feel? And I went with it. I just can't do it. I'm going with an angle park. When I first was like, Daddy, Nicola, I'm like, yeah, I'm like parallel parking. I was angle park, and inside she's probably thinking, just fucking go.

I would have went pussy. But I think that was definitely better because if you're if you're like a third or fourth date and the guy is driving you around, can't parallel park and people are honking down because he keeps sucking it up, that's going to leave a lasting impression. I think it is. Yeah, I think I think he made the right move just so well,

I've been married for ten years. I think so. But yeah, there's nothing there's nothing wrong I think with admitting your failures, you know what I mean in the sense of just going I just can't do it, you know, I just I just can't. Yeah, can you parallel park? I'm fucking I'm shocking at it. No, I'm really good at it, but I'm pretty sure I toppla. Yeah. I can't drive manual. I don't know how. I'm the same too, And I was. I was going for a job like six months ago, and I basically had the job,

and then the guy was like, but you can drive manual. Yeah, And I was like, oh, I can learn. He's like, oh, you can't drive manual. And inside I'm like, oh, I feel so small right now. He looked at me, like, you little man, how can you not drive manual? You're pathetic. I just felt so shit. I was like, yeah, I just I just I tried. I tried to get my license doing a manual, and I was just fucking it's too hard, man. Yeah. Look I tried a few times,

and I'm just like, this is too many moving parts. You know, I've got pieces, too many of them. I've got shit hand eye coordination. I mean, I can't play the piano, you know. It's like, okay, so that foot goes down by that one goes up and then I move this hand to do that thing. I'm like, no, I'm just gonna put it in D and point it in the direction I want to go them. I just my theory is, if it can be done easier, why not do it easier? Like some people, I like to

have the control over the car. And I'm like, that's fine, that's stupid. If I can, if I can just put it in D and just drive that way and point the car, then why would I not do that? Anyway? So she um she suggested lunch. Noel, She's just lunch. It's like being demoted, you know. You start off with lunch and you wake you up the dinner. Go with the lunch. You being demoted. He wants the hand and Ker says to him, why don't you

break up with her? Yeah, the preemptive Breakup's like, that's brilliant. It's a great idea. So we cut to the um. We cut to the breakup with Noel at Monks. So, I'm afraid that I am gonna have to break up with you. You're breaking up puss me. Yes, i I'm breaking up with you. Wow, shocked, I really am never expected this, did you? I thought, everything's fine, let it learn well, I don't understand you didn't enjoy being with me, didn't we have

thundering the crossword puzzle? Kind of very confused? It didn't mean to hurt your kid, I thought, not stop it? Please? What do you want? I know I can make you happy when when you're playing the piano, do you think about me? I don't know. This is what I'm talking about. Okay, I'll think about you all the time all the time, you know, okay, all the time. I can't hear you all the time. So I love the cognisants. Never expected this, did you?

It's quintessential George. How we can just you live and learn? Yeah, take what is potentially a good idea. I'm not sure how I feel if this is a good idea or not. But then a good comedy was never made out of people acting rationally. Well, but this is the thing that the whole a lot of the beauty of science felt is people doing things

that would not work in real life. But the response they get is how in your mind you hoped it would work out, but it never does, like an like that, like in reality, if you said this to a girl. She would never say to you, I know I can make you happy, tell me what you want me to do. That's not what happens, but that's what we wanted to happen. Sci Felt gives us out our fantasies. True, but that's also yeah, just taking that one step too far, and it's like, oh, this could have ended well for you,

but instead you've just had to push it. Just that one or two or three steps too far. George, don't abuse your hand, is what I've written down here When he says, um, I want you to think about me while you're playing, right, I thought that this was going to end because I couldn't quite remember how this one ended. I thought this was going to end with her playing terribly and then Jerry and linger what happened up? But I didn't laugh this time, and he'll just go she was thinking

of me and that would be the punch line and then that's it. But anyway, so cramming our shows, Steve cleve and climbed the smell and he says the dumbest idea he's ever heard, objectionable fancive odor the road. It's because he's still in the idea. He wants Crammed to think that he's not going to use it, throwing him off the scent you might say, clever. So they're preparing for them for the intervention, and John's here talking about his blood. Nos, I'm just gonna here. This is very rough,

Wigham. If I'm a Lane, I'm just like, I don't want to be talking to this guy at all anyway. But we've got the guy who's angry at Joe for having no ice cubes. I'm like, this guy seems like somewhat of a loose cannon. I must have been initially thought that was Richie. Yeah, that's what I thought as well. Yeah, but now he's just some random guy who's angry at the world. And they get out on Jerry for not having ask what he's gonna drink. I can't trick this.

It's warm. I'm like, okay, don't you think of then, But nobody, nobody wants to talk at the At the intervention, I think Kramer walks in and takes the mickey out of what was said earlier, and he's like, is this the interference? Just not taking it seriously? In the Polar Bear, But he's all arrived as well. Well, you don't want to be a polar bear anymore, too cold, old boy. Then we get the buzzer and everyone hides it's not a surprise party. What are

you doing? Elane doesn't think it's appropriate that John's hitting on her at this point in time, when I completely agree, and then it's George and Noel and he says that, you know it's gone to plans so much hand it's coming out of my gloves. The male kangaroo doesn't have a pouch, only the female has it. So the male has pouch. Why should she have this huge pouch? And I have nothing. I have things to carry to a please at please give me a pocket. I just thought this guy absolutely

nailed this moment. He was giving like three or fall on the dialogue there and I just thought he was just hit it out of the pod. Was so good, just killed it every time. Yeah, to the point where Elaine has to laugh. Laugh, that's the laugh. That's it. You're the one accident. If it wasn't my fault, it was Jerry. Jerry put a pen dispencer on my La has dispencer on her land during my recital. I didn't know she would laugh. And you you like to me,

George, you like to men? What would I do? Where are you going? I am breaking up with you? You could can't break up with me. I've good hand and you're gonna need it. A very well written, if not cliche ending to this story, but I really enjoyed it. It's like something you would expect on the end of Just shoot Me. Yep, And that's not a bad thing. Just shoot Me as a perfectly you would sitcom. Definitely is another sitcom that doesn't get talked about less than any

even it's like, just just shoot me. He's just never existed. You never see you, never hear anyone talking about it. I love Just Shoot Me. And I don't know if it's on any streaming service or you have to go to one of the digital channels of the Freedomware Networks syndicate. I've got season one and two. I think it is on DVD as a box set and m yeah, I love to Just Shoot Me. I thought it

was a great show. Yeah. You tend to think of Seinfeld as like a cut above or its own thing as opposed I mean, it's a sitcom, of course it is, but it was generational. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's odd, as we always said that it sort of ends on a bump kind of line. But you know a really really good example of that. I mean, yeah, like I said, if you're in the writer's room and someone's talking about hand to go, well you're gonna need

your hand. Oh perfect, you know, high fives. Richie then arrives, he doesn't know what's going on. And the next day Jerry's just describing how the intervention went down to George's ms, you can't do the crossway. He can't do it. He's just too sad. Jerry explains that Richie was hostile and he was talking about to everybody, and then he spotted the Pez di Spencer sides a full circle. Now the Pez the Spencer. This is

perfect Jerry delivery as well. I mean when you sort of talk about Seinfeld voice, just the thing he's doing green and the rehab, he's hogged down pears. Yeah, yes, such, its almost like he's doing stand up. It is. And if you're doing a Jerry Seinfeld impersonation, that's not a go to line, but that's very much the rhythm of sound. So but yeah, he says that when he's when he was a kid, his father was driving the car and he was trying to load a Pez Di spencer

and lost control crashed into a school cafeteria. No one was hurt, but the pez was destroyed beyond recognition. And then yeah, two hours later after the intervention, he checked himself to a clinic. He's doing well because, as he said, he's looked dumb. Pearz And this is where we get another it's a really written Seinfeld. This one like it felt like it felt sitcommy and Sinfeld, despite the fact that it is a sitcom, doesn't usually

feel sitcommy. And that might just sound bizarre and stupid, but do you know what I mean, It doesn't feel like your cliche sitcom banter. But this did true. But Dan, we've been very fortunate on in the Forefinger, just getting network to talk to various people who run show. Yes, Matt Salmon for instance, show run now of the Simpsons, and yeah, they talk about how or even if you just read about or hear about sitcoms or TV shows in general, how Yeah, an episode may have someone's name

on it, but often it's a collaborative effort. It's a result of a collaborative effort. I mean I'm not sure if it was the case that Larry David actually did write all this himself, or you know, you had a few other people saying, well what about this one, about this one? About this? This almost feels like an opportunity that we're the writers in the

writer's room sort of took it and ran with it. Everybody out of their two cents, almost like an audition piece for Hey, I'd like to go and work for the Simpsons too, you know, or I'd like to write or just shoot me in one of it's other there are some very sitcomy lines. I mean, as you said, the closing out with what's a three letter word for candy? It's like, yeah, that's a that's a sitcom closh, Yeah, I know what you're doing. There, we're close three

letters p's Yeah, there you go. Then we end up some stand up talking about jaw Break because been the ultimate challenge candy market as some sort of experiment. I was always too scared of I put that in my mouth would go straight in my throat and kill me. I always had this fear of I think maybe it was seeing the movie Jawbreaker, the movie Jawbreaker with the girls in the boot with a jawbreaker in the mouth. I think you choked

and died, correct, Yeah, yes, I never ate. When after that that movie got to me, I was like, fuck, that could actually happen. I don't know, but yeah, I was never a found that. I just never got the fascination with jaw breakers. I had a couple of friends that loved them, and I'm like, there's not that much taste to them. They hurt your teeth, teeth, there's a fear of dying. I don't get it. None of these are winners, no, not at all. Just give me some none of these are selling points.

Give me some whiz fizz. I feel like you would have been a kid that snorted whiz fizz. Is that right? No? I never did that at all? What even a huge whiz fizz guy. Yeah, it's like I get this. I get the young I like pop rocks, Okay, yeah, I have that sensation on my tongue, like the popping candy Santa Alves. Like at Christmas time you always get the popping candy Elves chocolate.

Do you ever eat that pup pupping candy? Yeah, whiz fars just felt like a It's hard to describe whizzards would just feel like a bit of a like a sizzle on your tongue. I liked whiz fis, but there's always a point where you're like halfway through the bag where it was like caked on the spoon and it was just it wasn't picking up as much anymore and your fingers were getting all wet because yeah, I don't know, it's a good analogy for cocus. Yeah, you know. I just have a mate though,

who's it was hype. But he's get the whist fist written the bag and just like straight into the mouth. He wouldn't use a spoon, it was just straight in. Oh my god, did he look like he had rabies? Yeah, it was it was foaming at them out. Yeah, but you'd behave that way anyway. Yeah, you get that sort of low level sizzle if you have a bit of whizzards on the time, but pop rocks if it was like yeah, yeah, it's like yeah, they've turned up the heat. Great. All right, Well that is our review of

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