John Saint Ryan talking about learning theory

I recently listened to John's Audio book "A Voice For The Horse" on Audible and found Johns explanation of the terms used in Equitation science learning theory invaluable. As a result I asked John to talk a little about it in this podcast. It is always great to catch up with John and as always there are stories thrown it about lessons learned from Tom Dorrance. 

Link to John's book on Audible