Gasoline on the Fire
Jan 12, 2026•59 min
Episode description
Guest host Jonathan Alter brings together former Senator Barbara Boxer, Norm Ornstein, and Stuart Stevens to break down the Trump administration's mounting aggression, at home and abroad. The four talk through the shocking killing of Renee Good in Minnesota and the fallout from the toppling of Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro. Then, they dig into a deeper story: how congressional Republicans became the devoted, crucial enablers of Trump's worst impulses.
Mentioned in this episode:
Jonathan’s Substack: https://oldgoats.substack.com/
Norm's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dsrs-words-matter/id1420216970
Stuart's Substack: https://stuartstevens.substack.com/
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