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Talking Church

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Talking Church is a podcast hosted by River Valley Network that discusses trends in the church and culture. In each episode, you will learn from ministry leaders on a variety of subjects, develop your leadership skills and break new growth barriers!
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Episodes

Why Most Churches Miss 20% of Their Community

Logan sits down with Joe Butler, founder of Ability Tree, to discuss the heart and mission of disability ministry. Joe shares his powerful personal journey as a parent to a child with multiple disabilities and how it shaped his calling to make Jesus accessible to all. They dive into the challenges families face when attending church and offer practical steps churches can take to foster true inclusion. This conversation will inspire and equip leaders to better serve the 1 in 5 families impacted b...

Jul 15, 202548 minEp. 170

Being a Proud Charismatic - Nathan Finochio

In this episode, Nathan Finochio gets real about the messy beauty of charismatic church life, the ups and downs of being creative, and why Gen Z might just be the new rebels—by going old school. He brings hilarious stories, honest moments, and plenty of wisdom that’ll leave you both thinking and smiling. Whether you’re leading in ministry, chasing a creative dream, or just trying to find where you fit, this episode will speak to you. River Valley Conference 2025 - City Campus - Minneapolis, MN...

Jul 08, 202537 minEp. 169

Builders, Keepers, Multipliers

In this inspiring and practical message, Pastor Rob Ketterling shares the unbelievable story of how River Valley bought their City Campus—highlighting God’s provision and bold faith. He unpacks what it means to be a Builder, Keeper, or Multiplier in ministry, offering real talk, humor, and leadership wisdom for every stage of church growth. Whether you’re just starting out or leading at a high level, this message will challenge and encourage you. River Valley Conference 2025 - City Campus - Minn...

Jul 01, 202542 minEp. 168

Becoming Confident as a Leader

In this compelling and transparent conversation, Pastor Julian Lowe shares his deeply personal journey of unexpected calling, spiritual crisis, and rediscovered purpose. Set against the backdrop of taking over Oasis Church just months before the COVID-19 pandemic, Julian opens up to Logan about leadership, identity, and what it really means to live for “forever glory” over momentary success.

Jun 24, 202548 minEp. 167

My wife joins the podcast! Our Story of Ministry Pressure, Infertility, & God's Goodness.

In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Logan finally sits down with his wife Mac to share their journey through marriage, ministry, and some of life’s most painful challenges. They share how they met, what it was like stepping into ministry life, and open up about their struggles with infertility, multiple miscarriages, and Mac’s long search for answers about her health. Through vulnerability and honesty, they reflect on how these trials have shaped their faith, strengthened their marriag...

Jun 10, 20251 hr 5 minEp. 166

The Ultimate Guide to Church Finances - Steve Chaney

Ever wonder if your church is making hidden financial mistakes? In this episode, Pastor Logan sits down with CFO Steve Chaney, who has helped over 1,100 churches overcome financial pitfalls. They unpack the biggest mistakes churches unknowingly make—from outdated systems draining ministry time, to payroll confusion and budgeting challenges. Whether you're a pastor, leader, or just passionate about your church thriving, this conversation will equip you with practical insights to steward resources...

May 27, 20251 hr 15 minEp. 165

Becoming Confident in Delegation | Rob Ketterling

In this episode Logan is joined by Pastor Rob to unpack the mindset shifts every pastor and church leader needs to embrace healthy, effective delegation. From letting go of guilt to stewarding critical leadership moments, you'll gain practical insight into leading without burning out. Learn how to empower others while focusing on the 5% of your role that only you can do.

May 13, 202544 minEp. 164

Gabe Finochio & Jon Rush | The Dangers of People Pleasing

Logan is joined by Gabriel Finochio and Jon Rush to discuss the tension between truth and likability in Christian leadership, exploring how boldness in speaking truth often clashes with the desire to be accepted. They candidly discuss topics like the baptism of the Holy Spirit, cultural compromise in the church, and how modern Christians engage with theology—online and in-person. Through personal stories, theological insights, and humor, the conversation challenges listeners to consider where an...

Apr 29, 20251 hr 48 minEp. 163

Dr. Allen Tennison & Martha Tennison | Preparing for The Worst Day of Your Life

Dr. Allen Tennison and Reverend Martha Tennison join Logan to recount a heartbreaking chapter in their church's history. In 1988, a devastating bus accident claimed 27 lives—24 of them were youth group students. Reverend Martha reflects on how she and her late husband, Don, navigated the unimaginable loss with unwavering strength, wisdom, and compassion. Dr. Allen shares his personal perspective as a survivor of the accident and processing this magnitude of loss as a teen.

Apr 15, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 162

Best Marriage Advice from Henry & Alex Seeley @ Belonging Co.

We hit the road in Nashville this week! Join us in this insightful episode as Pastors Henry and Alex Seeley candidly share the ups, downs, and their favorite moments from nearly three decades of marriage and ministry together. They reveal key insights every couple—whether in ministry or not—can learn from. If you're looking to deepen your relationships and lead with purpose, this podcast is one you won't want to miss! -- To learn more about Pastor Alex and Henry you can visit their YouTube chann...

Apr 01, 202554 minEp. 161

10 Reasons Why People Resist Change | Keith Peterson

Change is a constant in ministry, but it’s not always easy to lead. Keith Peterson joins Logan to explore why people in your congregation and leadership teams resist change—from the fear of losing control and facing uncertainty to concerns about competence and the weight of past experiences. With practical insights and faith-centered perspectives, this podcast equips church leaders to navigate the challenges of change with wisdom, empathy, and confidence.

Mar 18, 202557 minEp. 160

The Most Significant Discovery Since the Dead Sea Scrolls

The Megiddo Mosaic, discovered in an Israeli prison, is the oldest known Christian church floor, dating back 1,800 years. Built during a time of persecution, it boldly proclaims "Jesus is Lord" instead of "Caesar is Lord." In Washington, D.C., Logan spoke with Dr. Bobby Duke from the Museum of the Bible about its history, the logistics of its transport, and its significance as the most important Christian discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Mar 04, 202540 minEp. 159

Better Storytelling, Book Writing Hacks, and Humble Success

In this episode of Talking Church, we sit down with Mark Batterson, one of the most influential pastors and bestselling authors in the world. From writing books that have impacted millions to leading with vision and faith, Mark shares his insights on storytelling, discipline, and the power of humility in leadership.

Feb 18, 202539 minEp. 158

Secrets To Avoid Ministry Burnout | Dr. Don Lichi

In this episode of Talking Church, Logan sits down with Dr. Don Lichi, a licensed psychologist and ministry leader, to tackle one of the biggest threats facing pastors and ministry leaders today. Together they explore practical steps to protect your heart, strengthen your faith, and build healthy rhythms that sustain long-term ministry.

Feb 04, 202550 minEp. 157

An Honest Podcast Update

Pastor Logan shares an honest podcast update about the future of Talking Church.

Jan 28, 20254 min

Meet One of My Heroes: Bob Hoskins

Bob Hoskins, a legendary figure in global ministry, has spent over 80 years advancing the gospel with bold faith and unwavering commitment. Known for spearheading innovative projects like the Bible App for Kids, the most downloaded children’s app globally, his work exemplifies a passion for measurable impact and meaningful ministry. With a fearless heart and a spirit-led approach, Bob continues to inspire leaders and ignite movements worldwide.

Jan 21, 20251 hr 17 minEp. 156

Grammy Winning Producer’s Advice to Christian Musicians

Episode 155: In this episode, we are joined by legendary music producer Jerry Wonda. From his upbringing in Haiti to working with iconic artists like Shakira, Whitney Houston, and Justin Bieber, Jerry shares how faith, creativity, and perseverance shaped his path. He shares how his church upbringing influenced his music and his unique approach to producing, and his advice for combining passion with purpose.

Jan 14, 202544 minEp. 155

10 Things That Great Leaders Do

Episode 154: In this episode, Logan is joined by Pastor Rob Ketterling as they dive into the top 10 habits and practices that set great leaders apart. No matter where you're leading, these principles can impact the way you inspire and guide others. Listen as they dissect how these traits align with Biblical wisdom and explore what they mean for those called to lead with purpose and integrity.

Jan 07, 202546 minEp. 154

The Best Moments of 2024

Episode 153: Join Logan as he recaps some of the best moments on Talking Church in 2024! We are so grateful you are one of our listeners, and cannot wait for all that's ahead in 2025.

Dec 31, 202418 minEp. 153

A Prayer for Your Christmas & New Year

As we close out the year, I wanted to say a prayer for you, your church an your family as you work hard to minster through the final stretch of the year. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year from Logan and the Talking Church team!

Dec 24, 20243 min

Why I Became a Pastor: Early Stories from Pastor Rob Ketterling

Episode 152: Pastor Rob joins Pastor Logan this week to share pivotal moments from his early life that shaped his ministry and worldview. From transformative mission trips to Brazil and India, to navigating personal revelations and college experiences, Pastor Rob takes us on a journey of faith, growth, and adventure. He reflects on the impact of early mentorship, cross-cultural ministry, and a commitment to accountability and resilience in leadership.

Dec 17, 202441 minEp. 152

5 Must Have Meetings to Plan a Big Event

Episode 151: In this episode, Pastor Logan is joined by River Valley Church’s Annie Judd (Art Director) and Maddie Bennett (Event Project Management), to discuss essential meetings for effective event planning. They emphasize the importance of collaboration, creativity, and clear communication among team members. They cover several topics, which include the significance of vision meetings, brainstorming sessions, the process of pitching creative ideas, service planning, as well as provide struct...

Dec 12, 202453 minEp. 151

Lessons From the Biggest Church You've Never Heard Of

Ep 150: In this weeks episode of Talking Church, Pastor Logan is joined by Pastor Greg Reade and Pastor Dave Simiele, leaders at Christ Fellowship Church, to discuss their experiences and insights on church growth, the importance of humility and integrity in leadership, and the challenges of managing a multi-campus church. One of the biggest churches in America with over 25,000 in attendance, they have managed the tensions at every level and will share insights they’ve learned from their decades...

Dec 03, 202436 minEp. 150

Grow Your Church in 2025. No Frills, More Presence | Michael Koulianos

Episode 149: Michael Koulianos joins Pastor Logan and shares the journey of founding Jesus Image, emphasizing the importance of worship and the presence of God in ministry, and how to foster a sustainable church environment that prioritizes spiritual growth and community engagement. He also explores the current search for authenticity among young people in the church, the challenges of maintaining church culture amidst changing societal values, and the balance between ministry and family life....

Nov 26, 202452 minEp. 149

Moving From Creative Person to Creative Leader

Episode 148: Kirk Graham and Aaron Johnson join Logan to share how they grew from being a creative person to becoming a creative leader. They give insight on the need for organizational skills, the value of training up new creatives and how to navigate making decisions that will help the team mature.

Nov 19, 202443 minEp. 148

Avoiding Church Rivalry | Clarence St. John

Episode 147: In this enlightening conversation, Pastor Clarence shares his extensive experience in pastoral leadership, discussing the importance of unity among churches, navigating the challenges of interim pastorship, and the need for adaptation in ministry amidst cultural changes. He reflects on sustaining through difficult times, raising the next generation of pastors, and the significance of personal spiritual discipline.

Nov 12, 202444 minEp. 147

Responding to "Purity Culture" | Phylicia Masonheimer

Episode 146: Phylicia Masonheimer joins the podcast to respond to the difficulties of holiness and purity culture. Phylicia shares her personal struggle with shame and erotica and how she overcame that by the power of the Holy Spirit. Phylicia has a passion for helping women learn the Bible and recover from the trauma of their past.

Nov 05, 202453 minEp. 146

Using Video Games to Reach The Next Generation | Jon Rush

Episode 145: Jon Rush joins Logan in discussing the intersection of video gaming and ministry. Jon emphasizing its cultural relevance, the potential of video games as a tool for evangelism and the dangers and opportunities of virtual reality becoming more and more real.

Oct 29, 202444 minEp. 145

They Both Had Abortions, Now They're Fighting To Stop Them

Episode 144: Aniela Chis and Jeff Bradford from Human Coalition join Logan to discuss overcoming the trauma of abortion and how they are helping resource women to choose life, regardless of their circumstances.

Oct 24, 202454 minEp. 144

Can Pastors Endorse a Candidate? (w/ Attorney Ryan Bangert)

Episode 143: Logan and Ryan discuss the Johnson Amendment, the importance and challenges pastors face in communicating political issues, the protection of First Amendment rights, and do their best to answer the question: "Can pastors endorse a political candidate?"

Oct 22, 202434 minEp. 143
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