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Episode 29: The ABC's of ABG's

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A, B, C, oh wait, ABG?

In this episode, Dr. Burriesci hosts Briana Drapp of PT Elevation and teaches the ABC’s of Arterial Blood Gases (ABG’s). Dr. Burriesci explains what PaO2, PaCO2, HCO3 and SaO2 means, why we should care and how to extrapolate the information of each of these numbers into real world, clinical information to benefit our patients. She breaks down the numbers into metabolic vs pulmonary and alkalosis vs acidosis by finding who the “problem child” is.

By the end of this episode, you’ll have interpreted multiple examples and have a better understanding of why this matters to you as a clinician. She gives you information in small bites rather than getting lost in the whole alphabet soup.

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Basics of ABGs

Rachele Burriesci

Welcome to Talking All Things , cardiopulm . I am your host , Dr . Rachele Burriesci physical board-certified and cardiopulmonary clinical specialist . This podcast is designed to discuss heart and lung conditions treatment interventions , research , current trends , expert opinions and patient experiences .

The goal is to learn , inspire and bring cardiopulm to the forefront of conversation . Thanks for joining me today and let's get after it . Hello , hello and welcome to Talking All Things , cardiopulm . I am your host , Dr . Rachele Burriesci . Before we get started , I'd like to introduce my sponsor , jane .

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While you settle it , jane promises to be transparent with their rates and unlimited support team that cares . So again , thank you , jane , for your sponsorship . All right , welcome to Talking . All Things Cardiopalm and PTA Elevation . We're doing a dual podcast today , so I wanted to introduce myself .

I'm Rachel Barisi , a physical therapist , and we have with us today Brianna Drap . Brianna , would you like to do a little intro ?

Brianna Drapp

Yeah , my name's Brianna Drap . I am a physical therapist assistant licensed in Pennsylvania . I also am going back to PT school , so I'm a first-year PT student at the University of Pittsburgh .

Also , my CSES we're just going to drop all the credentials and I own a business called PTA Elevation , which helps PTA students pass the NPT with less stress , less anxiety and feeling more confident on exam day . So that's pretty much what I'm doing making the NPT simple , easy to understand and pass it on your first attempt .

Rachele Burriesci

I love that . I love that . So that's a little similar thing on the PT side of things , just trying to give digestible information and hoping to help PTAs as well . So one conversation that we've been having on DM is really talking about ABGs and what it means and really where people get hung up on .

So you would say your followers , your listeners , do get hung up on ABGs . Yeah .

Brianna Drapp

Yeah . So ABG stands for arterial blood gases and because there's so many acronyms , we want to make sure we're on the right track and we get really confused . So this is like our partial pressure of CO2 , partial pressure of oxygen , like what's important , what's good , what's bad , what does it mean and what does it mean when they're together ?

That's really the big thing . Lab values that's another thing that confuses a lot of people . Had somebody today just tell me like if I could just stuff lab values in my brain , I'd be like so much less anxious . So these are a lot of things that confuse a lot of students , especially as we get into the pathologies associated with them Absolutely .

Rachele Burriesci

I do want to put a plug in for the acute care section . So acute care section just put out their new set of lab value manual . So take a look at that . Go to the acute care APTA section . They have a new lab manual that you can look at , digest and take out all the important information .

But we're going to talk a little bit about arterial blood gases , and so the first thing I really just want to kind of put out there is why we are looking at ABGs . So when are we going to see ABGs in clinic ? So typically when an arterial blood gas is drawn , the patients typically in the ICU setting potentially in the emergency department .

There's something acute going on and so what they're doing is assessing if the person is hypoxemic . So they have oxygen saturation problems , maybe a problem with aviolar ventilation where they're literally not having good gas exchange . That's usually the main thing . The person comes in and they're short of breath .

Potentially their SPO2 is tanked , likely ABG is going to be drawn and then from that ABG we really are looking at two big pieces . One are they hypoxemic ? And that's really the only time you look at oxygen .

That's what it tells you If you have a PAO2 , a partial pressure oxygen , less than 80 , then we consider that hypoxemic and we're usually around less than 60 , that's when the person is considered to be in respiratory failure . Outside of that parameter , oxygen actually isn't the main thing that we look at .

So when we're looking at ABGs , what they're trying to figure out is the person in acidosis or alkalosis . So that's step one , and then the second part of that is what's causing the problem . So we can be in respiratory acidosis or alkalosis or you can be in metabolic acidosis or alkalosis .

So if you are trying to assess ABGs on a test question , typically what they'll do is they'll give you the normal ABG parameters , which are pH , partial pressure , co2 , oxygen and bicarbonate .

When you're trying to figure out acidosis versus alkalosis , you can kind of eliminate oxygen from the series , because the only thing oxygen is telling you is if the person is hypoxemic , normal and in some cases hyperoxemic . What they're really asking is acidosis versus alkalosis . So people get really tripped up on this .

But after many attempts of trying to learn those in PT school , out in clinic you see ABGs quite a bit . It wasn't until after my residency , when I started teaching ABGs , that I really was able to break this down into simple form . So first things first . You always check pH . So you have your pH , your partial pressure CO2 , and your bicarbonate .

Let's go through the ranges first , I guess would be the easiest thing . So normal pH should be between 7.35 to 7.45 . Perfect world number is technically 7.4 . So anytime you have the range , the perfect number is in the middle of that range .

But when you're looking at it , if we're less than 7.35 , we call it acidosis , if it's greater than 7.45 , we call it alkalosis . So the first thing you do when you name an ABG is look at the pH and determine is it acidosis or alkalosis ? Step one , step two is figuring out who is causing the problem . So I like to call it the problem child .

Who's the problem child ? Who's making the pH acidotic or alkalotic ? So then what you do is you look at the partial pressure CO2 . Partial pressure CO2 range is 35 to 45 . So the easy way to remember that is it's the same as pH to strap the 7 . So less things to memorize , same thing . Perfect world CO2 is 40 , just mid-range .

Co2 is considered the respiratory parameter . So , and it's acidic In nature , co2 is acidic . So if we have a range from 35 to 45 , if we have high CO2 , I name it acid . If you have low CO2 , less than 35 , name it , call it basic . So some people don't like the fact that I'll literally call CO2 acid or basic .

But it will keep you honest when you're naming it so literally . If you have your numbers written out , write the words next to it so you can't mess up and always write out the range on the paper . So whether you're taking the NPT for the PTs or PTAs , you should have a white board available . Write it out so there's no chance of messing up .

So if you have a pH , you're going to name it acidotic versus alkalotic . Then you're going to look at your CO2 and you're going to ask yourself is it normal , acidic or basic ? Whatever it is , it'll tell you if it's the problem child or not . Then you go to bicarb . Normal bicarb is between 22 and 26 . Perfect world is 24 .

If we're thinking about bicarb , bicarb is the metabolic parameter . So when you think metabolic , you're thinking kidneys as being a problem and it is known as a base . So if your bicarb is high , we're going to call it basic , so greater than 26 . If your bicarb is low , you're going to call it an acid . When you name it .

What you're basically doing is matching your pH to whichever matches it . So if your CO2 is high and it's acidic and your pH is acidic , well now you're going to name it respiratory acidosis . If your bicarb is high and your pH is high , showing basic they both match then you're going to call it a metabolic alkalosis .

So when they match , they name so always check the pH first , name it acidosis versus alkalosis , and then part two is figure out who's causing the problem , who's moving the pH . And you're good If you write it out , you're going to be set .

Brianna Drapp

How do you feel about that ? I needed this in cardiopulm . That's what I needed . No , this is amazing because it's just a simple recipe . The boards when it asks questions , they don't really go into all that weird partially compensated , uncompensated , all of this other stuff , even though we know it's connected .

We know if we want to get into technicalities , but they're pretty black and white . If pH is high and then partial pressure of CO2 is high and bicarbs normal , then it's going to be respiratory acidosis , Right ? I don't know what I said . Ph should be low for that . It'd be alkalosis . Yes , it would be . I don't want to have to flip the numbers around .

We can edit that out .

Rachele Burriesci

See , look , I even get confused . Write it down . Write it down .

Brianna Drapp

I'm doing it on my thing , so I'm going to write it out right now . So we have low pH , yep , and then we have high PCO2 . Respiratory acidosis Respiratory acidosis because if bicarb is normal , cause they're going to have it as bicarb normal to make sure they're not throwing off , so bicarb normal .

Rachele Burriesci

So we'll talk about that in a second but , I , wanted to do like an example , so that the numbers cause hearing . It is sometimes hard without seeing the numbers in front of you . But basically , when you're writing it down , always match it . Just play the matching game . It's just a puzzle .

It's a fun puzzle if you can nerd out with it and enjoy the process , versus like freaking out that you have an ABG in front of you .

Brianna Drapp

Exactly . So , going through your steps , identify the pH . Is the pH too high or is it too low ? And they will give you like they won't give you the end range . So we're not going to say it's 7.35 , because that's just rude . They're going to say it's 7.3 or something like that , to get it out of the range that you know it's low .

So no need to worry about that . I know there's a lot of sources out there that get confused , like even my bicarb numbers for school were different . You're telling me it's 22 to 26 . That's what scorebillars textbook says . That's what therapy had says . It's what I've seen on the boards . I'm sticking with that .

Screw whatever my school says already passed those classes . So stick with what the numbers the books generally have close enough ranges and this is true for any lab value .

If they're going to give you a lab value on the boards , they're going to give it way outside the range that you know for sure it's too higher or too low , like white blood cell , they'll get you , give you like 15,000 . You're like , ok , that's definitely not high , that's definitely high . They're not going to give you like 10,746 .

They're not going to do something like that .

Rachele Burriesci

It's going to be obvious right 100% .

Brianna Drapp

So first identify pH , see if it's higher or low , then see is which one's out of whack , which one's not in the normal range . Is it bicarb or is it partial pressure of CO2 ? And bicarb will be written as what ? Co3 minus Yep , hco3 minus , hco3 minus I forgot the H HCO3 minus . I had to take chemistry guys , so they'll have that .

And then , because that's a base , if there's too much of bicarb , that means it's going to be more basic , right , correct . And then if there's not a lot of bicarb , that means it's going to be more acidic . And if it's bicarb out of whack , then it's going to be metabolic , whatever .

Rachele Burriesci

Whatever matches the Ph . That's the key . Correct has to match the pH .

Brianna Drapp

And so if you go through and you're answering your question and then you want to go back and see like OK , did my answer actually make sense ? Like let's see a flag , it Just go and see . Does my pH and whatever value I think is wrong . Match up , correct .

Rachele Burriesci

Right , exactly . So let's do an example , just because it'll make life a little bit easier . Ok , so we have a pH of 7.30 . So the first thing we do is we look at our range . We say this is low . Low means acidic . Write it out , don't just write the word low , because I know plenty of times students will mess up high and low on this .

Low pH is acidic . Your partial pressure CO2 is 49 . You look at your range 35 to 45 , it's showing CO2 is increased , which means it's acidic . So now you have pH's acidosis . Your CO2 is acidic . So you already have in your mind something . But you're going to check bicarb anyway . Bicarb gets checked . Bicarb is 23 . You know that bicarb normal is 22 to 26, .

So you write that as normal . So you name it . Now you have a pH which says acidosis . I always write the pH down first and then you say who caused it to be acidotic ? Your CO2 , which is your respiratory parameter . So you have a respiratory acidosis and the story . You follow that rule and you're good to go .

Brianna Drapp

Perfect , there you go , and this is exactly how the board's going to set up , because you very easily have four possible answers , correct ? It can be metabolic or respiratory , and it's going to be acidosis or alkalosis , and they'll just interchange those things .

Like I've written sample questions , this is probably the easiest one to write , because you just put the values and then you have your four answers already there . So if you see this , don't panic . You can automatically get rid of two answers right off the bat , right , and then you'll see which one's out of whack .

If it's CO2 , just think respiratory , think CO2 , start thinking that metabolic , think bicarb . Correct 100% .

Compensation vs Correction Mechanisms

Rachele Burriesci

So then another common question is do you correct for the problem or do you compensate for the problem ? Mm-hmm ? So that's a common question that they might ask . Or how does the body correct or compensate , correct ? So this is again an easy thing to do . So if the body is going to correct , that means the parameter that caused the problem fixes itself .

So if you have respiratory acidosis and you're going to correct for the problem , that means the lungs are going to fix itself . So if you have respiratory acidosis , that means you have high acid in the system , the body would correct itself by blowing out the CO2 . So we say you blow off the CO2. , the lungs are going to get it out .

If the lungs can't correct because , let's say , we're in failure , then the metabolic system is going to compensate . So the kidneys will compensate for the problem . And the way the kidneys are going to compensate for the problem is they're going to excrete , via the urine , acid or base , depending on what is the problem .

So if we have acidosis , we have high acid , it's going to excrete more acid , aka base is going to increase . So it's going to just do this move . It's going to go up and down , so it's going to try to get more bicarb .

Brianna Drapp

So it's going to increase the bicarb level Because that's the base , so it's trying to neutralize it . And again , for the boards , they don't always go this in depth of what's happening . It will be . They will ask how would the body correct for this ? So if you have respiratory acidosis , how do you get to respiratory acidosis ?

Well , we can talk about pathologies . You could have COPD or something like that , where they can't get air out . So they're just getting all this air stuck in there , which that air includes CO2 . It starts to increase . What they sometimes try to do to get rid of it is the hyperventilation . But because they can't get air out , it's not really working too well .

And then , if you're thinking of what could cause alkalosis , it could be something that the person's hyperventilating a lot and blowing off a lot of CO2 .

And inadvertently , because maybe they're trying to , you know , maybe they have , you know , a restrictive lung disease and they're trying to get more air in the end of hyperventilating and it does the opposite effect 100% .

So if anybody's lost right now , just pause , rewind and start to think , start putting , like , if you want to put like base next to bicarb and then , like you know , acid next to partial pressure of CO2 , it's pretty confusing . But when it comes to a board's question , when you see it and if you know these parameters , like what does this actually mean ?

Like it's not just a value , it's not just a number on a page that you have to memorize If you understand why the hell it's even there in the first place . Sorry , I don't know if I'm allowed to swear , I'm not allowed to swear . I'm like , if you don't know why it's there in the first place , it's going to be very hard to conceptualize this .

That's why I always tell people stop trying to memorize and start to really truly understand what's going on , because the board is going to ask you questions with multiple layers . It's like a fricking onion 100% .

Keep going 50 layers deep and , as long as you can follow along with what all that fluff is saying in the question and pull up the important things like the keywords , the values and stuff , and you can put them together and synthesize them . The answer is right there and you'll be able to figure it out . Sorry , I went on a little rant there .

Rachele Burriesci

No , it's totally correct . The whole thing is a puzzle and there are ways to memorize these things , but I'm at that point in my life where I can no longer memorize . It just doesn't stick that way . So I think when you understand the concept and you can kind of work it out like a problem , it's easy to go .

Understanding Acidosis and Alkalosis Compensations

So , regardless of whether it's acidosis or alkalosis , or it's a respiratory problem or metabolic problem , if the body corrects the thing that caused the problem , fixes it , and if the body compensates , the opposite system has to go in the opposite direction .

Brianna Drapp

essentially , Exactly so like , let's say , we have somebody who has COPD and they're going into respiratory acidosis because they can't get air out and they're getting stuck .

So their partial pressure of CO2 is rising but because of their anatomy they cannot compensate via the lungs , so they're going to have to switch over to the metabolic system , which means that the kidneys are going to excrete a lot of what ?

Hydrogen ions and then bicarbs going to start increasing , bicarbs of base , trying to even it out , trying to neutralize that pH , and that's , I guess , why somebody with COPD can go into a multi-system organ failure via the kidneys . Bang , there it is .

See , now it makes sense , like now that we talked about I had all these things separately , but then you just have to bring it together .

Rachele Burriesci

I think once you think about who causes the problem with the pH , everything else falls in line . Always figure out the problem child , and then you'll know the next part period . So then there's one more concept and you can tell me if this is too far . But they may ask are you uncompensated , partially compensated or compensated ?

And that's when people really get thrown off .

Brianna Drapp

Yeah , and that's more of going to be a PT question , because I had never seen that anywhere in the PTA stuff but just for my PTA friends like you will have patience for experiencing this . You can just put this in your toolbox for later if you want to , but I do think it's . You definitely need to talk about this for your , your people .

Rachele Burriesci

Yeah .

Brianna Drapp

Cause this is what I literally sat here , rachel , on one of my practicals and she's like is it partially , is it fully , is it uncompensated ? I stared at her and I was like I know , this is alkalosis . I don't know , I don't know anything else . So you can , you can go into it with .

Rachele Burriesci

So everything that we talked about so far , where the opposite system hasn't helped , where the opposite system shows normal , you're uncompensated . So if you have an abnormal pH and you have a problem , child , that's clearly at a whack and the opposite system , the compensator , hasn't moved , you're uncompensated .

You just have a problem , right , and you've named it respiratory acidosis or alkalosis , or metabolic acidosis or alkalosis .

Brianna Drapp

And that's most of how it will show up on the PTA exam will be like one's out of whack , the other one's fine , and then the pH is off Right .

Rachele Burriesci

Where it gets tricky is when you have two numbers out of whack , and so the same rules apply . If you can look at the pH , first , determine if it's acidosis , alkalosis , and then look for your problem child , you're going to be good even though both numbers are out of whack , because you understand the concept now .

So essentially what happens is exactly what Brianna described before . You have the patient who has COPD . They're in respiratory acidosis . Their body cannot correct for the problem , so their kidneys kick in and they excrete more acid , aka hydrogen . So their base starts to rise and that's what's going to even out your pH .

So when you're fully compensated , what you see is a normal pH . Your original problem child is still out of whack , and then you're going to see the compensator also out of whack in the opposite direction . So your base starts to rise to correct for the acidosis .

Brianna Drapp

So you would have and the example we're talking about partial pressure , CO2 would be 49 , like we still talked about , and then you would have the bicarb also being high at like 30 . So if it's completely uncompensated , you see them go in the same direction and then the pH is normal .

Rachele Burriesci

So the pH will be in the range right . So this is where understanding the concept works . So if you started in respiratory acidosis and your pH is now normal , let's say it went from 7.30 , like we had before in our example now it might be 7.35 . So it's still leaning .

Brianna Drapp

So at the end range of normal , but towards acid .

Rachele Burriesci

Yeah , so your whoever is acidic in your problem is still your problem child . And then when you see that base out of whack , that's your compensator .

Brianna Drapp

Mm-hmm .

Rachele Burriesci

Does that make sense ?

Brianna Drapp

Yeah .

Rachele Burriesci

But , if you so like , when we chatted about this before , we were talking about , like the ones out of whack , how do you know which one's causing the problem ? You have to look at that pH first .

Brianna Drapp

So if it's like super close to that acid , like it's like one more way for being an acid , then you're okay . This is like definitely going to be acidosis going on , so you can look at that and be like acidosis . Then you can figure out which one was causing the problem .

So then , how do you figure out which one's causing the problem if you see it at the end range of normal ?

Rachele Burriesci

Because it's still close to the acid , so the way I write it on my paper is normal but near acidic . So then you look for who is acidic .

Brianna Drapp

Which value is ?

Rachele Burriesci

acidic . Is it your CO2 ? Or your bicarb ? And then you've named it right and then you can find out who's compensating for the issue in the opposite direction .

Brianna Drapp

And then if it's in the range , it would be fully compensated , and then if it's like getting close but not quite , it would be partially compensated If it was 734 , partially compensated , but both numbers are out of whack .

Rachele Burriesci

Does that make sense ? That makes sense .

Brianna Drapp

See , I needed this before we practical . I'm going to give this to the next class of students . Just watch this before you go into your cardiopulmonary . Final 100% .

Rachele Burriesci

The thing is is all you have to do is look at the pH . If you look at the parameters first , you're going to be at a whack . You'll figure it out in the one you have in normal , but once you have two numbers out of line , then you're stuck If you don't think about the pH as the first part .

So always check your pH , determine if it's normal , acidotic or alkalotic and if it's leaning towards one side , note it . And then name your other two and just be super black and white about it . Say acid acid , normal acid acid base .

Brianna Drapp

And the board's worse than black and white . It's the only thing that does , because the world's gray , the world is gray , everything is .

Rachele Burriesci

it depends , except for ABGs , which is why it's fun . So just write it out , be very black and white about it , and then there's no issue . So we can . We can run through an example . I have some examples pulled up . Let me get it . Oh yeah , that'll be great . Let me , let me get a good one up .

So let's , do you want to do a partially compensated or a fully compensated ? I think fully is maybe easier .

Brianna Drapp

Let's start with an uncompensated and then go to a fully and then to a partially , just so then I can be like okay , so , ptas , this is how it's going to show up on the exam , and then so we'll do the same , uncompensated , that we did earlier , and we'll just run through it and then we'll we'll move on to a different one .

Rachele Burriesci

So , uncompensated , we have a pH that's 7.3 .

Brianna Drapp

Yep , this will be how it shows up on the PTA exam . So if people had zoned out , come back in . This is how it's going to show up on the PTA exam . Okay , 7.3 .

Rachele Burriesci

7.3 is our pH . Partial pressure is , co2 is 49 and our bicarb is 23 . So we have three things to look at . First thing you do is look at your pH 7.3 . Is less than your range of 7.35 to 7.45 . So you're going to write the word acid CO2 is 49 . It is increased . It's outside your range of 45 . Acid Bicarb is 23 . It's within your range , it's normal .

So we're going to name it respiratory acidosis and it's uncompensated because bicarb hasn't moved to do anything to help . Okay , perfect , makes sense . Yeah , we'll give a different one . I think I have a fully compensated somewhere . Here we go . Okay , we have a pH of 7.41 , a partial pressure CO2 , 47 , a bicarb 29 . Okay , so our pH is 7.41 .

So if we're thinking about a range 7.35 to 7.45, . we have 7.41 , which is within the range , but what are you going to note ?

Brianna Drapp

It's closer to basic .

Rachele Burriesci

It's closer to basic . So write normal Parenthesis , basic . That's what I did , so you know who you're now , who you're looking for , your problem child , right ? So CO2 is 47 . Normal range is 35 to 45 . Co2 is our acid parameter for lungs . It is high , which means we're going to write the word acid . Okay , it doesn't match your pH .

So let's check our bicarb . Bicarb is 29 . Normal bicarb is 22 to 26 . It's higher than 26 . We know bicarb is our base , which is a metabolic parameter , and it is high , so we're going to name it base . So now you look at it and you have your name . You have a metabolic alkalosis . Why do you have a metabolic alkalosis ?

Because your pH is showing normal but it's leaning basic and your metabolic parameter is high , which matches that pH . So metabolic is your problem child . Your kidneys were the original issue and your lungs are trying to compensate for the issue . So it's being more acid . It's hypoventilating to fix the pH problem .

Brianna Drapp

I think that's also something the boards will ask about . Does somebody with you know and this would be uncompensated , just like straight respiratory acidosis what's going on with their breathing pattern ?

And like they might be , like they put , like you know , hyper hypo eupenia or like dyspnea , they'll throw something in there that's like okay , everyone's has trouble breathing , but like what's the real answer ? And so acidosis is associated with our hypo ventilation . Well , alkalosis is our hyper ventilation .

Rachele Burriesci

And the reason is is when you're breathing , you blow out CO2 . So if you're hyperventilating , you're you're blowing off more CO2 , which means that number is going to go down . When you're hypoventilating , you're retaining said CO2 . So that number is going to go up . On the other end of the spectrum , your kidneys it's all about what's excreting .

So you can say you're excreting more base or retaining more acid . So always have both of those verbiage side by side because you can be asked either way If that makes sense . Makes sense . Retaining acid , it's the same thing . It's just showing which is doing what the virus by carb going is going up or down .

Brianna Drapp

It's going up , it's basic . Going down , exactly , it's acidic .

Rachele Burriesci

All right , let's do one more . And then I think we , I think we've hit it , I think I do . Do a partially compensated . So this is like the middle of the road deal . Okay , all right . So we have a pH of 7.53 , a partial pressure CO2 of 25 and a bicarb of 20 . Whoa , okay , so let's name it pH 7.4 , sorry , 7.53 . Our normal is 7.35 to 745 .

So this is high . When you have high pH , that means it's basic or alcoholic and this is outside of that norm . So it's true alkalosis . Your CO2 is 25 . Normal CO2 is 35 to 45 . So it's low . What does it mean when CO2 is low ? What are we going to name it ? We're going to name it basic . Our bicarb is 20 . Normal bicarb is 22 to 26 .

Bicarb is also low . Bicarb is normally known as a base , but if it's on the low end we call it acid . So then you line them up right . Who is matching the pH ? Who is causing the issue ? Who is your problem child ? Your problem child is CO2 , your lungs . So you have a respiratory alkalosis .

But because both parameters are outside of normal , you're partially compensated , because what it's telling you is bicarb is trying to fix it . Bicarb is trying to compensate , it just hasn't accomplished it yet .

So what I actually like in clinic is that when you see ABGs , you actually see the trend , so you watch the change happen over time , versus just having this random set of numbers .

But what you do need to realize is that you're going to see change as they're medically assisting the person and as the body is trying to correct or compensate , and it's usually associated with how much oxygen they're on what setting they're in . So just watch it change over time On the boards . You don't have that opportunity .

You just go one snapshot , which is what I mean .

Brianna Drapp

You're like , oh man , what's going on ?

Rachele Burriesci

What's going on , Figure it out . So I think this is fun . It's just a puzzle . Always start with the pH , then find your problem child . You'll have your name and then you can decide whether you're uncompensated , partially compensated or fully compensated .

Brianna Drapp

Wow , that was so much help . That was helpful . I think that my people will find it helpful . I'm sure your people will find it helpful as well . I think that this is amazing . Rachel can be found everywhere . If you type in all things Cardio Palm , she is there , her website and everything , all the things .

Rachele Burriesci

Instagram , the website . I'm officially on Twitter . That's new , oh man .

Brianna Drapp

I don't even think I have Twitter .

Rachele Burriesci

I feel old . I'm like how do I work this thing ? I'm learning .

Brianna Drapp

I have my own Twitter . That's the only thing I have . That's private , because I don't even know what I tweeted when I was in middle school . I don't trust myself .

Rachele Burriesci

I have no idea . I'm like , okay , we're learning this new platform .

Brianna Drapp

I didn't tweet for two years and I posted that I just want to catch a pigeon and then I'm going to leave it . I'm not going to post for another two years . But no , pta Elevation stuff is on Instagram , youtube , got Facebook

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page . Pta Board Study Group oh what ? else do I have Tell me the name of your YouTube channel . It's just PTA elevation . Okay , so pretty consistent across the board , pretty consistent . Look for me , anywhere Podcast is PTA elevation . Some of you guys are listening to it on right now and you're like , oh , hello Hi .

Rachele Burriesci

Like anyone who's heading for their PTA and PTE , look for PTA elevation from Brianna Drepp . She's got tons of content for you . Lots of lives on the daily . Always be on the lookout . All right , it's a good time . Got anything ?

Brianna Drapp

else . I mean , I don't think so . I just think that follow you , for this helped me so much . I'm definitely going to share this with everybody . This is helpful . Thank you so much for your time .

First of all , thank you too , appreciate being here , and the big thing about the PTA versus PTE stuff is PTE is going to be more examination techniques , like you know chest wall expansion , you know determining like what's appropriate for the patient , and then PTA stuff it's going to be interventions . What are we doing ?

Are we doing personal breathing , diaphragmatic breathing , segmental , what's going on ? So if you can understand that sort of difference and things don't get too overwhelmed , especially with PTAs , there's a lot of PTE stuff out there , not as much PTA .

If you're seeing a lot of evaluation and examination techniques and assessment stuff , that's going to be more PTE questions . But if it's like breathing techniques , pacing , exercise , you know , interventions , that is 100% your thing . So look at that for sure . And that's really the main difference that I've noticed so far . Just want to throw that in there .

Rachele Burriesci

Or wrapped it up . I think that's good . I think that's a good send off . All right , if you have any questions , reach out to All Things , cardiopone or PTA Elevation , and I hope you all have a wonderful day and whatever you have to do , you get after it . All right , I hope that was helpful for you . I know ABGs can be a sticking point .

A lot of people get overwhelmed with the concepts and learning and memorizing up and down . Stop memorizing , just understand the concept . And if you need more than what we provided here today , check out my website , wwwallthingscardiopomecom . I have a number of MPT prep courses ready for you , quick and dirty facts , especially ABGs .

So if you need more of a visual cue , if you want more examples , head to my website . Check out MPT prep course . There's a bundle where you can get all of the recordings for $200 . And if you just need some specific topics , pick the one that you want and get started . So I hope that was helpful for you and hope you have a wonderful day .

Whatever you have to do , I get after it , thank you .

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