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your boys a day, you know what I mean. I literally at five forty five am this morning, in the middle of the class, I was about to grab I was about to grab my energy drink, and I was like, you know, what Ky might not be ready for the Sea four this morning. He couldn't handle it. Yeah, I really could not. Ears were burning. Yeah, the ears were burning by the end of the show, and then I got ask I got upstairs and I felt like I was going to fall over. That was not great. I

didn't have anything to eat that morning too. I think that was probably the problem with that, because I just chugged half of that Sea four drink and Energy Drink ride on an empty stomach after waking up and come into the studio. You get rough p one that didn't work out. Yeah, I'm good. Actually, yeah, you got plenty of energy. Actually yeah, huh, you got plenty of energy. Good to go. We canna say that you got a two year old. That's that's always negotiable, but I'm making it.

You could tell as soon as you took that thing, your people started just going my Ladys style. Zowski. How you feeling today? I feel great today. Actually, that's probably the best I've felt in the last week, because I've been kind of kicking a cold all week long and I've had an allophy. I think it was allergies because usually every fall, like for a week, I it just knocks me out and this might have been that week, but I feel better today. So my windows open the

last few days, just enjoying the cool weathers. Turn my off St. Crisp. Yeah, it's been companies. I'll kiss my button this month this season. Oh four. I agree, it's gold. I'm right there with you. We are going to take your calls today eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven. You can go ahead and get in line on the phone calls. Chris Beam will answer it in the back and then we'll talk to you and get your idea of how you're thinking this Cowboys season

is going. They're at four and two. They just fell to the Philadelphia Eagles twenty six to seventeen. The final score from Lincoln Financial Field Rob Phillips. Any news and notes for us to hit today. Nothing too much new from Jerry Jones on the Fan just a few minutes ago with Sean and RJ. He did say kind of echoing what Mike McCarthy said yesterday about Dak's status for the week. He said, Dak's determined to play, and he thinks he's gonna get there. They haven't said, oh, he's

starting Sunday against the Detroit Lions. But with a good week of practice, I think that's certainly the plan. Mike said yesterday he's gonna have a full throwing load on Wednesday and that he should be cleared in time for Wednesday's practice to you know, do whatever he needs to do out there and get ready to play the game.

So they'll just see how it goes. The other thing that stood out to me, noc I would say from Jerry as he said, you know, we're a better in so many words, we're a better football team now than we were before Dak got hurt. So there's a better group around him. You think about the number of young guys who have played now six games this year, and so they're in a better spot for him coming back to make a run here. I agree with that that statement.

It's something that Mike McCarthy said yesterday in his press conference. Keep in mind, when Dak Prescott last played, it was Week one and there was a lot to be figured out. On the offensive side of the ball. You had to figure out the wide receiver corps, which was without Michael Gallop. Tyler Smith had spent the entirety of training camp at left guard. He was being pop back out the left tackle.

Connor McGovern got some reps in August at center, but now he's being moved back to the definitive left guard. What's going on there? So, the last time Dak Prescott was on the field for the Cowboys, there was a there were a whole lot of question marks, but now still have some question marks, but not as many. We know what Tyler Smith can do at left tackle, We're starting to see what Connor McGovern can be at left guard.

And Jason Peters is in the mix again after return last week from that that chest injury that that cost him to Los Angeles game. So it looks like the offensive line is is much more set than it was back in Week one, and that's only going to work toward helping Dak Prescott get back into prime form more quickly. Now. As Isaiah, myself, Colin and Rob have continuously said, do we expect Dak Prescott to hit the ground running. We would love for it to happen, but we don't expect

that that's going to be the case. He still has to get the timing, like Mike McCarthy said, with the offense, uh, get the timing back with Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup, Noah Brown, who's basically now the definitive wide receiver three. Obviously that was not the case in twenty twenty one. Isaiah is doing the bugout look. So I'm going to toss to Isaiah. You know, I want to know what that looks. Yeah, what was the we questioning Noah's arc question said he's

definitive number three? I just yeah, I think he's number two. Huh. You think he's number two? Orderline one, that's what he's saying. You think he's one. Okay, Now I'm gonna bug you with with the previous regime. Let's say that with the rush, with the rush hour, that's number one rush hours. The stats, I know you're not thirty some yards on that last drive like they didn't terrorists. We talked about this a couple weeks ago. We're talking about quarterbacks and they have

their guys cite. Lamb had four catches for thirty some our yards before that last game. He has one hundred and twenty more yards and another touchdown and thirteen further receptions than Noah Brown. More attempts, probably too, more targets for sure, because he's a number two, Noah Brown has a higher catcher percentage. I mean maybe I don't know. Let me let me look at the targets. Let's be clear here walking down that there, Rob Yeah, I'll tell

you what y'all take. Noah Brown and I thrown the ball and I'll tell you most of the time he gonna come down with it, and at times he doesn't. It's a quarterback's fault. It's a ricky Bobby, I know, but I don't know what to do with my hands. We love Noah, we love absolutely. I am extremely interested to see who becomes the most targeted when QB one comes back, because last year it was it was Dalton.

But something else that stuck out with Jerry's interview this morning is he said there's a quote unquote question mark about the return of Dalton Shots from his injury, as in, will he be back on the field for the lines? Where will he not? And what really stuck out was the fact that Jerry used the word surprised when he described Dalton Shots being made inactive after what was his

practice last week? Limited? Limited full? Uh? And then he was inactive on Sunday, which okay, um, But then that led you to believe it's like, okay, well that was unexpected for us, but they knew something. Okay, there you go. But then you hear Jerry this morning saying, well, that was a bit of a surprise, and then your eyes kind of you know, get white, like okay, so what

do we okay? So interesting interesting things. He was not He did not have an injury designation for correct And what Mike said yesterday was he he likened it to Dak like he's healthy enough, but it's a timing thing. It just didn't feel right or something like that coming off this knee injury. I'm about to read as his mind because I who are on the same page when Jerry said that this morning, and this is me Now I'm wondering out loud. I was wondering quietly, but let

me let me let me wonder. I'm wondering if because we talked about one side of the coin, in that it's a franchise tag gear for for dawn shows, he can't afford to not be on the field. But then again, flip it up to the other side of the field, the other side of the coin. He cannot afford to

play hurt and see his value diminished. Then you look at the last couple of games he gets out there, he's trying to battle through it, but he's not Cooper's guy, so he's not getting the targets, which then devalues the purpose of him fighting through the injuries. So maybe this is just me wondering out loud. Maybe don't shows. It's like, well, you know what, until qv one gets back, I don't see the value in fighting through this spring PCL And

you know, call me when forward's back under center. Oh now I'm wondering out loud. Okay, So that's not that's not concrete. That's just your process. We're building a contiracy series. It's me wondering out loud. We we've talked about this before though around separate other positions that are looking for

contract renewals, like Dalton Schultze is this season. Most of the time, even if you're banged up, you want to play because that's gonna try and force your your hand and negotiations as well as would you see it with last year Ezekiel that wasn't even end into a contract. Nego track contract negotiation always, it's always in a contract negotiation, you gotta be you gotta be able to check those years up. So that's the reason why you saw him push through last year, aside from the fact he's out

there trying to give it his all. I mean that's not but he was, like he was about the money. He was still getting his handoffs. Yeah, he was still getting his hands because I mean he's a dog, so I mean he's but he's he was putting out. So it's a counter argument, possibly to the situation that you're proposing right now. Zeke was out there trying to do

everything he could. Even though we everybody in the world knew that he was banged up and he was nowhere near one hundred percent, he was still giving you what he had. So Dalton Schultz not available, Dak Prescott looks like he's on his way back. Anything else from News and Notes yesterday, That's kind of the ones that stuck out to me. I mean, we're in Dak mode here, but I I would be shocked if he's not starting

in the Sunday stunting. Yeah, So how do you guys think the young tit Ends played in the game speak? I was just about to ask answer yes, yes, elaborate on that yes, because I liked Ferguson as a receiver because he's been that all all around you just like tight end. That tight end or that touchdown was sick. I'm not gonna lie to you. I saw somebody on Twitter. I believe it was our friend Stephen, who actually went to North Texas a couple of years after I did,

or maybe before I can't remember, but he goes. He called it. He called it the Jacin Bake, and I was like, Oh, that's good. That was that was he did a euro step with a football. Yeah, he's gonna say it was like James hardenstyle or something. It's awareness on. That was crazy. But I thought he showed me something as a receiver in this game that I hadn't seen yet from Jake Ferguson specifically. And then I saw Peyton Hendershot show me something that we did expect from a

blocking standpoint. They put him in some tough situations blocking and it did not go well on multiple occasions. I mean I charted at least three or four. I don't have my film notebook in front of me, but I had three or four snaps where Hendershot got beat and got beat bad as a blocker. Twice. Twice it was in Max's protection and he was with Sean McEwan uh, and both him and mckewan just kind of got all swords and just unraveled and it didn't really look great.

And you know what for me that we knew that that's the case, that's right, We knew that. So it's a situation where I would lean more towards criticizing the scheme and that portion, because again, you got you know that Peyton Hendershot is not great at blocking, and credit

to the rookie because he willingly admits it. He says he's working to get better at it, and we've seen at times over the course of this his young career six weeks in that he has had some solid blocks, but we've also seen him miss on some more than than he's been solid on. But I think it's going to continue to be a progression. That's not the strength of his game. The strength of his game is the

fact that he's a down the field threat. He's a guy who can get separation from you know, linebackers and defensive backs for that matter. I can't stress enough how much I'd love his quickness out of breaks. It is very receiver like. It is not very tight end like. But what you saw was, like you said, Kyle, Jake

Ferguson show, would you an added aspect. We knew that Jake Ferguson could make some plays as a receiver, we didn't know he had dumb moves, right, So if Jake Ferguson is going to start busting out the moves in addition to being at least a solid blocker, now you're really talking about you know, tighten one question mark twenty twenty three. Yeah, right, I mean, that's that's the discussion

that needs really a question. Though it's always a question until it's no longer a course, because I think you could always a question until it's not a question. Even if yeah, even if Dalton Schultz does not get a long term deal here, fine, they could still franchise him a second time. Now you know he doesn't want that. He didn't want to be franchise the first time. Who does? But it is an option for the team. I mean,

Dad got franchise twice. They ultimately got a deal done, but I think I think Tank might have got a franchise twice anyway, So it's a it's an option and the weapon asked, that's what it was, the shoulders. Yeah, and they got the got the deal done. But to you guys, point like, it feels like they've brought in Dalty slash Jarwin two point zero at these two because of what their skill sets are. And I agree with no Ce like hinder shots receiver like ability is more

so than what Jarwin is. And he's a better athlete than Jarwin was here, um, but more agile the other things. Yeah. The other thing Mike did say about him though, is he's playing a little too fast, you know, and he's gotten some penalties, that illegal motion penalty. He's just he's anty. He's a little anty that yet happy feed on the line of scrimmage because he knows what he's capable of. He knows the matchups that he has. He can beat

most safeties, he can beat almost every linebacker. So when you know you have that capability and you haven't had the opportunity to show that and display that yet, you're you're a little hype. You're like, come on, come on, especially when you know you're in motion and the play is like designed. You're looking at the at the at the coverage and you're like oh this, this is coming to me, you know, based upon coverage, if the if the if, the concept is created for you to get

the ball. So him coming in motion, I bet you he was about to get the balls. Young tight ends in this game alone on the young tight ends both make plays in space, Jake Ferguson only touchdown for example. You saw them high point catches, like really climbed the ladder Fergie again. So yeah, and you know when it comes to the blocking, probablys or like they rove at the moment of Peyton him to show you know what

you got there. It's a work in progress, but the fact that he can do what he can do as a receiver compliments Jake Ferguson's ability to both block and be a receiver very very well. And you know, yeah, and keep an eye out on Sean Mcowen. He's still developmental, but he showed some things. So yeah, So two stats really jumped off the page to me about Jake Ferguson following this one. Ferguson is the first Cowboys rookie tight end to catch a touchdown pass since the late Gavin

Escobar did in twenty third. Yeah, so that one first off jumped out because it was Gavin Escobar, but also it had been nine years since the Cowboys had had a rookie tight end catch a touchdown pass even longer because Jake Ferguson's four receptions on Sunday Night, we're the most in a single game by a Cowboys rookie tight end since one. Jason Witten had five catches in two thousand and three as a rookie, So you had in two thousand and three and then Gavin Escobar in twenty thirteen.

Is here Jake Ferguson's among both of those? Is there an asterisk euro step in the record books? Now you gotta putt with the euro step? With with with the question slash best euro step? Do you think Fergie was practicing that in the mirror up to this point he was just waiting for his opportunity. That was sweets and he does it again, it'll be a signature of his like that. You know how they have like the Dirk shirts where he's like leaning backwards and then the Jordan

logo and stuff. It'd be the Ferguson like euro step. That'd be his signature move love. He needs to go ahead and coin that You're welcome, Jake. If you're listening to Talking Cowboys, you would make some money, all right. When we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we're taking your calls to or eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven eight eight eight eight five five

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Nation here on this Talking Tuesday. We'll start things off with our guy Anthony in Miami, going down to the three h five. Anthony, you're back on talking Cowboys. How's it going? What's up? God? I appreciate y'all. Let me get this back to back. I'm going to night shop for a couple of months, so I'm gonna miss out with y'all and my other cool human So can I do my Christmas whistless right now? Please? Yeah? Okay? I wish.

I wish my head coach would kind of channel his enner Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcels and kind of get mad at these players when they commit the silly penalties, beat up saying the Parsley penalties. I mean, come on, you got to show some kind of emotion, man, and I mean it costing us, so it can't continue to happen, and you shall be working on them with getting better. So that's the problem for me, and I hope we

fix it. I hope and wish my quarterback the love besides the woman loved my life, love of my life, that Frankcott go back healthy and does what he's supposed to do and leave this team. And I need three phases, the defense, the special teams, in the offense to show up every game. I don't want to hang my head on a defense. I don't want to hang my head on the offense like we did last year. I don't want to hang my head on special teams. I want all three to show up. And I believe with that

and that formula, we can do damage. And to watching the show yesterday, I heard some things with our Patrick. Both of you guys made good points, but I kind of tend to side with Patrick on the fact that I wasn't too and pressed for Philly. I'm sorry, I don't think they throw it off by there. I don't think they did, because when you had twenty seventeen, it's some throwing off. I mean, you got a backup quarterback that did this with three turnovers and we were in

the game. So let's just go ahead and then Dallas and beat the brakes off them next time, all right, guys, taught y'all in the New year man. Sounds good, Anthony, and get luck with the night shift and that. Yeah, you'll have to, I guess watch it on the on demand, which we love having your lives. But great call. Brob. Did he miss anything on this Christmas wish wish list? Because I thought that sounded pretty good to me. He

nailed it. Stop the penalties, um tackle better, like that's been their calling card on this defense, and that's the what they talked about all week because we have to tackle. We have to tackle, we have to tackle. If they didn't dan Quinn, I think he said they missed ten. Yeah, he said they missed ten, same as the same number as they had against the Giants. And he said they were as a defense, they were pissed that that was the That's what dan Quinn led with Hill press conference yesterday.

He said, we're pissed. Um. You don't get and these are his quotes. You don't get a paddle on the back for uh being halfway successful. Uh. He said he wants his unit to be a kick ass crew front to back the entirety of the game, not have weak points. And he really really started harping on, uh, the well Isaiah was talking about on yesterday, as far as the being close, getting within two when he's seventeen, and then allowing that touchdown drive to kind of put the game

away for Philly. He really harped on that, and you could kind of see, even though you know DQ has a mostly calm demeanor, you could see the flames in him, a little little bit of fire he was. And he said yesterday he said, you know, guys, I know ninety nine point nine percent of the time I'm half glass full, and I'm an optimist. He was like, but I get pissed off too, and that end quote, He's like, and I get pissed off too. So, ladies and gentlemen, DQ

is Uh, he's pissed. So you might see that against the Detroit Lions this Sunday. What do you think I said, I think that my man's is used to getting a lot of Christmas gifts because I only got one. What's that? Growing up? I mean, my wish for the Dallas Cowboys is to score points. That's my wish for the Dallas Cowboys. Score points. You know, And I know a lot of people are like, I don't. People don't have to agree with me. That's why we all have our own, you know, opinions.

But Dallas, m how can I say this? Okay? All right? By saying it, they're struggling offensively still, yeah, I mean, and it's and it's not okay. And I know everybody's excited because Dak's coming back, but the reality is, you know, what we have seen from from Dak this year isn't much more than what we've seen from Cooper Rush this year. So I mean, I know it's only one game dose that we had of him, but we scored how many points in that game? Three? Three? So I get it.

Everybody's getting the quarterback back, and they're excited and they're hyping the're talking about the possibilities and things that he's done in the past, but from what we've seen this year, we still can be base it off of what we've seen this year. So are you saying, tap the brakes on the dak is back bandwagon and let's be excited off be excited that your QB one is back. I mean, who wouldn't be that. Who wouldn't be excited that your

that your starter is back and your game guy. I mean, he's your most valuable asset that you have in this organization at the player position. There's no doubt about that. But let's not act like we were lighting up the scoreboard when he was present. He had a full, healthy off season, Yeah, full camp full OTA's came in and scored, we scored three. Yeah, and down the stretch last year, the offense wasn't nearly as good as they were before the bye week last year, although he did finish with

thirty five touchdown passes. I'm just I'm just a realist, you know. I don't I don't lean on either side of the fence. I'm just saying what we've seen isn't

what it's been. Yeah. So I think a lot of people are with the expectation that is going to be back to you know, you know early last season throwing lighting up the scoreboard and you know, all these jars, and it's like, I don't think that it's going to be that much of a light switch immediately, at least I'm I hear you and making you make great points. I'm excited about him coming back into the formula that

they've created Offensively. I think they're doing a better job scheming things up to whoever's the quarterback to have success. And I hear I've heard this in the last couple of weeks with Cooper Russian here, It's like, well, but Dak's making this much money, why should they run kind of this run first offense and play your defense if you're you know, he's supposed to be the guy and all that. Hey Man, Troy Aikman had a running game, Troikeman had a hell of a defense. Troichman had a

hell of an offensive line. Like, how's it working out for Aaron Rodgers right now without kind of the same pieces he's used to playing with in the past. It's okay to have a good system around a quarterback. I'm excited about what they've I think they found that can work with that coming in as a better player to run that offense. Yeah. You know what scares me a little bit about this game coming up and we'll dive into this on Wednesday and Thursday. It's I got this

gut feeling. It's bubble guts. It's barbecue in the Miller light. It's the you look at the coffee of Miller light. I guess I should say barbecue of Miller light actually sounds great. It feels like last week are last year. It feels like you come off of that Minnesota game. Now, you won the Minnesota game with Cooper Rush. You came off of a big win. It was a huge game in prime time. This one you didn't win. But then what happened the week after that, Denver Broncos came into town.

You had back to back home games against teams that were winnable games Denver and Atlanta. You felt like, oh, okay, we're fine, We're getting Dak back. We're gonna win this game. We're gonna win it by a hundred. It's not gonna happen. That's what this reminds me of. I'm not going to lie to you. It's a big time Prime primetime game on the road. Then you have back to back games at home against winnable opponents. You get Dak Prescott back for the first one, and you're gonna beat the Lions

by a hundred. Don't count out this game as a close game. Well first, don't do it, first and foremost, And I've said this at several points when we were doing our Friday predictions when it comes to the Lions. And I'm a huge fan of Dan Campbell, and if you're a Cowboys fan, you should be a fan of Dan Campbell as well. But he has the Lions as scrappy, like you saw what happened last week. Okay, fine, you saw what happened, you know, before they went into the

bye week. Not pretty. But this is a Lions team that can push you to the limit, and they will scratch and they will claw, and they will they will bite at your knee caps and try to get the win if at all possible. So, and I kind of adopting and I accentuating I should say, as Isaiah's point is, you have to respect these opponents and the Lions. It could be viewed as a trap game, but again I don't view that there's a such thing when you have a Michael Parsons on your on your defense, and especially

Michael Parson's coming off of a loss. Is a fully healthy Michael Parsons, That's my biggest question. Fair. That's fair. But the good thing about the Cowboys defense and a piste off dan Quinn is that there they operate as a whole unit. Right, So it's not overtly dependent upon Michael Parsons having to be that dude on any given week. If he is, then it's that much more dominant. If he's not, somebody else would likely step up in his place and help, and you know he's still going to

cause disruptions. So for the so on, the question just goes back to the can the offense hit the ground running or at least continue to do what they've been doing. Don't get away from leaning on the run, leaning on the ru with Ezekiel Elliott, Tony Pollard. Let your offensive line kind of try to set the tone so that you can set up a play action and the lion's pass rush is not teen off or trying to tee off against your quarterback who just got back into the game.

So is this a winnable game. It absolutely sure are the Cowboys going to route them by a hundred stop that that's nonsense. This is the NFL. Those guys get paid too. But it's something. It's a game that the Cowboys should win handily if they're operating on all cylinders and play mistake free football. And we'll dive into the details of that tomorrow and then Thursday and Friday, even for say, with your chest Friday as well. But let's go out to Bob in Nashville. Bob, you're back on

talking Cowboys. How's it going any, great fellows, great conversation. I hit the nail on the head with me to One of the things I was calling about was listen to the Philadelphia game. Okay, it's over with. It's one game. Let's move on. We need to get these next two games going into the bye. Yep. So we're six and two. We need to focus on those two games and getting better offensively. I think that's the key, not looking back and lamenting about Philadelphia, but just going back to some

of the point you made earlier. I really want to keep Honor McGovern in at the left guard, and I want to keep using these young tight Ends. I think you got something with those people. I think we need to not put in you know, maybe Jason Peters, maybe I just have him as a backup right now. Just let this guy grow immature and develop with this line. And also same thing with the tight Ends. I think they are good enough to replace Schultz, and let's wait

till he's healthy completely and then spot him in. But I like the youth movement and I want to continue with that downroad. I just want to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks, guys, appreciate you. Bob, And he brings up the concerns of multiple people. I know Nate Newton across the way is saying put one of them in piket and go, which right now, if that was the case, it would be Tona mcgoverns over, wouldn't be Jason Peters.

Jason Peters with just the four snaps. I even asked McCarthy about that yesterday in the press conference and he was like, well, Peters didn't play enough to really really warrant a thought process or an evaluation. But I know, Isaiah, you've been big on the Peters bandwagon. Has that shifted it all over the last couple of weeks it has. He hasn't been asked when he has been in the game.

I haven't seen enough out of him. I think that first game he came in and him made some really good blocks of Fredding wise, but overall, I don't know. I think he needs to being more consistently in order to even get comfortable with this unit. And it's kind of a government playing poor enough to where you can constitute a replacement. I really don't think he has not.

And to Nate's point, you know, when you're rotating offensive lightning in, it's the one position in football that you know, aside from the specialists, that don't have substitutes, So it's kind of odd. It's kind of odd that you're rotating these guys in and you expect them to all be productive and effective when they need to work in solidarity together. So it's just a bad it's a bad situation. So I agree, either you go with McGovern, I like him both.

I like Peters better, but I haven't seen enough of him consistently, and he hasn't seen enough of himself consistently. You can't. You can't go in there four plays and impact as a lineman. Many suck It was a good question by Babe Laffenberg because he said he followed up on your question and he said, I imagine the plan wasn't to just give him only four plays, and he said, well, third series was the plan, and then we revisit in the second half, but they didn't go back to him.

So I'm not sure, but I'm kind of with Nate like it's just unusual to have a rotation on the offensive line. That's just not common. So I think it. I wonder if by now they were expecting Jason Peters to probably be the starter and it just hasn't worked out that way yet. You know, maybe the injury set him back a little bit. We'll see. I think that

was the case. I think exactly right, Rob. I think the Cowboys felt that the timing of signing Jason Peters and you know, the timing they needed to ramp him up because they were basically saying, well, September was training camp for Jason Peters. Okay, well now we're going into

late October. The chest injury obviously set him back, and then you have to wonder, you know, when he got in against the Eagles, maybe they saw that he was still kind of struggling, you know, holding his blocks, probably you know, because of the residuals coming from that chest injury. But nonetheless, here we are two weeks away from the bye. Connor McGovern has played well enough to remain the starter. So my thought process is, you already know what you

haven't Tyler Smith. You just continue to you know, develop peters in the system. So that should McGovern take a step back at the wrong time, start taking a step back, then you say, okay, we're going to do a full swap. But I'm with Big Nate stopped the rotation. I think we're at the point of the season where it needs to be solid, especially with your injury healed QB one coming back from injury. It needs to be and a solid five in front of him, and with a left

tackle that's a rookie two. I mean, he's been playing well. I really like what Tyler Smith has done. Sure, he's given up acts, he's given up pressures. Everybody does whenever they're a rookie playing at left tackle. But he's really done well. From a standpoint of growing, He'll grow even more and even quicker whenever he's got a steady guy to the right side of him as well, and Condo

McGovern's played better than Jason Peters at this point. It's been a super small sample size, but Connor McGovern's played better, so let's keep that in mind. All right, let's take our second break. We're gonna still take some calls eight eight, eight, five, five two two nine seven. We'll maybe have time for one or two more and when we come back with more talking cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company. Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the cheetah Savannah.

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Welcome back into Talking cowboyssented by Black Rifle Coffee Company from the starting Frisco too much Miller Light in his call, Yeah that's too much this morning, Black Rifle, Miller Light. But with Combo. I'm glad I was able to draw you guys into that has a nice change up from the All right, let's go to Irvin in Denver. We're going all around the country this morning. Irvin, how's it going you're on Talking Cowboys. I'm doing good, guys, Thanks for having my call. Uh was listening to you guys

a little bit yesterday actually for the whole show. And one hundred percent agreed with Patrick yesterday. There was a point in that game when we've got to twenty to seventeen. I think Philadelphia realized after Lane Johnson had gotten hurt and they lost their starting guard too, that they were kind of placed on the ropes, you know, by our defense at that point. I really think we were taking

control of that game. They realized get back their run games, which they did, and I was kind of hoping that our defense would that kind of stop that run, that whole drive really kind of like stop the game. Well, that's all I really got to say. What you got to think about that? Thanks? Thanks so much, Irvan, appreciate your call from Denver, and I mean two to nothing. I guess if we're keeping listening to, wisdom is strong

within these callers. Irvin. I appreciate you. Um, I respect you as a Dallas Cowboys fan, avid talking Cowboys listener,

you know, loyal. However, typically when you make a statement saying that a team was in control, if you're in control in your seeming league, you know, stopping teams moving the ball, whatever it might be, you just had that confidence that you're gonna win the game because you're in control you feel like it, then you don't get the ball ran on your eleva strate times all the way down field and then get a touchdown. You're not in control if you can't stop a team from running the

ball eleven straight times. That's me controlling you. If I want to control you. If I'm playing Madden, I'm gonna hand the ball off because you can't stop it, right, you can't freaking stop it. If I'm playing the wing t. Why was the wing t so good back in the day.

Can't stop it, can't freaking stop it. Why am I gonna put it in the air and give you an opportunity when it's a higher precision, as a higher chance that I'm gonna turn the ball over putting it in the air, I can keep it on the ground and just move the chains if you can't stop me from moving the chains on the ground. You were never in control. So, regardless of what the score was, regardless of what your sweet little emotions feel like everybody out here, you were

never in control of that game. Yes, you closed the gap, but what did the Philly do? Philly said, all right, well, let's go back to doing what we know what we were doing. Well, I don't know why we were trying to throw the ball ahead of a while ago. But let's go back and hand this thing off again and again again again, just like Novoca again. I'm always work. So I hear you and I and I want to be on board, but I can't be on board. I'm sorry, y'all. I'm my metat the truth. Regardless of how how how

bad that medicine taste, Dallas was not in control. It just felt good because the score looked goodbutt coming, all right, So I'm all for rubbing the testing on it. Right. Um, I disagree again and that they were never in control because control is a moment to moment thing. So what you're saying is that they regained control by running the ball eleven straight times, but they didn't actually lose control by allowing the Cowboys to score seventeen straight points and

make it a three point a fair. So nodes not tomato tomatoes, tomato pumpkin shout out to think about it this way. If we if we if we're if we're in a vehicle and I don't have control of the vehicle in that moment, right, you're taking us all over the place. You're all over the lanes and I'm sitting I'm just along for the ride. That's in that moment. Yes, Now what if in the next moment, I grabbed the wheel, put us back in the lane, and now we're going where I want us to go. In that moment, I'm

in control. But then I don't equate that equate that analogy to what happened then with the eleven straight runs that you grabbing the wheel again and say no, I'm taking control. Say so. My whole point is there was a point in that game, Yes, that the Cowboys were in control and threatened to come back and win, and the Eagles, to their credit, they regained control, But that them regaining control doesn't delete the fact that the Cowboys actually took it from them at some point, which made

that a winnable game before. That's all I'm saying. I see your point, and I raise you if I want to. It's cool outside. Why am I the pump kissing? I keep my thermostat, you know, I keep the thermosat said at about seventy two in the crib. Okay, he said about seventy two. Yes, no, that's good for me. Seventy Now, I don't want to use my AC, right, So I popped the windows open like dbo right, I cracked the windows open. I'm saying, you know what, I need the

outside to regulate the temperature on the inside. I'm gonna try something different. Okay, I'm gonna try something different. I know the AC works, but I don't want to run that thing right, So I'm gonna go ahead, prop this window open. Hopefully, hopefully my temperature regulates on the inside. Guess guess what exactly what? So two o'clock this morning, my allergy started acting up right, and it wasn't It wasn't a temperature that I need to set on the thermosat So what I do? I went back to I

know what works. I closed the dog on window and I turned the AC back on, and guess what it regulated. That's Philadelphia Legos. Try some different, they said, I lost, this ain't working. That ain't working. So I'm gonna go back to what I know works because they can't stop it. I'm just saying that the never that you said. That's see okay, get here. I am sitting right in the addle of this argument again because I agree with things that Patrick's saying. Because they had a chance to win

that football game. That was a winnable football Philadelphia kept doing with you. But I also agree with Isaiah and the fact that I don't think Dallas ever had control at that same moment in the ball game that Patrick's talking about. They had a chance to take control and they didn't. They had a chance to stop Philadelphia there and they didn't. That's where I sit in this argument, because I think it was a winnable game if you would have retaken control. But Philly was in control of

that game all the way through. It's hard for me to say a team is in control when you're down at any point in the ball game. Really, you have to take the lead or have a chance to go take the lead. For me to say that, I don't agree with don't. I don't fully agree with that because I go back to the Super Bowl against Atlanta, Right,

we're gonna same page on that one. But Rob Pie, if you're extreme, but then, but who did you feel like it was in control the game when you got to overtime, But it was a time when they were down, you still felt like New England was in control of that game even with them down. You just know I felt it I don't know what you felt beside from the bubble guy. Everybody knows. But there's a shift of

control that's coming. You can feel like a shift of control, that would be, but that's not the same of actually being in control. Okay, So feelings, you got to control your own destiny in that moment for you to be in control. If you're down by three, but you can drive and take the lead, I would I would call that aid in control. If you're down by more than a touchdown, or if you're down by a certain amount of points that keep you out of that, then I

don't know. We gotta go walk because a tintel too, Rapie. I want you to be off as a coordinator. Okay, your team's up. Okay, you've had success running the ball, You've had sess throwing the ball. Right, you're in four minute offense. What are you doing four minute office, Rappie? If you want to control the rest of the game, I'm doing what I do best. And for the Eagles, it's the RPO stuff and running the ball and trying

to control the clock, Thank you very much. That's what they did and they they were the better team, and some of that was self inflicted by Dallas. They were the better team in that particular game. I think the Cowboys defensively can play so much better than they did. Some of that is what Philly does. That is a pain in the ass for anybody to play against. And that's why I think I agree with both of you guys, because I think Philly's legit. I think they're going to

be a challenge for everybody they play. The question that they're going to run into though at some point, and maybe it's Dallas on Christmas Eve, when teams can keep up with them scoring wise, to take the RPO out of it a little bit, that they haven't run into that yet, that's going to be the key. And if they don't stay healthy offensively. To close an argument, the one thing I disagree with what you're saying is no,

So why are you closing argument to me? Because because point I'll simply quote cold play and then I'll toss it over to you. Just because you're losing doesn't mean that you've lost. So if you're in that being said, that's not what I'm saying. No, you're saying that you can't. You don't envision that a team can be in control unless they control their own destiny. That's what it's literally in the same control your own destiny, which if you're down by a score or more, then you don't control

your own destiny. You can get back into it's sure, but you're not in football by taking control. You know, that's the only way you get back into it. But you're not in control. You would have to take it and in the present and think you're in control. And it was taken science in the moment, which is how they got seventeen consecutive. They didn't have the ball. They didn't have the ball in that point they gave the ball. The ball was with Philadelphia. All right, we can Hey,

real quickly, I'm taking control of this podcast back. I'm taking control back at the moment, Al in the DMV is calling, and I believe it's the first time caller, so I want to get to him before the end of the show. Al, how's it going. You're on Talking Cowboys? Gonna be so mad at us doing great fellas. I love your show, I love the Cowboys. I've been in Cowboys fans for fifty six years. Real quick, I know we're coming to the end of this show. Um, I feel I feel as if as if they were flat

coming out. I've watched the Cowboys for fifty six years. They were flat, and I think the reason they were flat, which they didn't really have an excuse because it was a divisional game. But coming off the Rams, I think they they put it all out there and they started flat, got behind. I don't think Philadelphia is better. I think that we did not make the defensive adjustments that we needed to make on the play to Brown, where Michael was put in a predicament where he had to play pickles,

and to me, we should have adjusted. They ran that play early, they beat us on it, and they came back to it a couple of times and they beat us on it. And I do not lastly blame Cooper Russ because he that last pass to CD would have been six had we had good protection. That's it. I love you guys, have a good day. Thanks all. Appreciate

appreciate you listening. He brings up the it's almost the counter argument of a couple things that we had talked about previously, because up Rush had put it into situations on multiple occasions that didn't necessarily work out in his favor. But he didn't have a ton of help around him at the same time that really allowed him to be successful. For instance, Brandon Graham coming off the edge and just flattening Cooper Rush as he was trying to let go

of that football. It had an effect on the throw. It really did in that occasion specifically. Okay, oh it sure did, No, it did. I think we got to give the Eagles credit for making things tough on the Cowboys. I don't think the Cowboys solely beat themselves in this game, but I can't wait to see the rematch. You guys, at least some of it. Wait, those sailed passes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of it. He had an inaccurate day. There was an armed talent level that's going to rise with Dak

being back correct playing and simple correct. Well, we're gonna talk about that tomorrow, are we. Yeah, it's the Cowboys and it's the Lions. Were turning the page, gentlemen, we're putting this one in the review mirror. We're not gonna let the Eagles beat us twice. It's not gonna happen. You're not gonna let them beat you twice. You're gonna go into this week and you're to be well prepared.

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