Talkin' Cowboys: Winning The Race?

s WBC Mortgage Studios. As we are now officially into Week eleven of the NFL season and the Minnesota Vikings are on the docket this week, We're going to talk about what we saw last night out of that game. Of course, we were all doing some scouting in terms of the well, it was kind of a boring game last night and kind of a man it was very man yesterday from the Bears and the Vikings on Monday

Night Football. But first, Olympie introduced the outstanding crew. As always, Cowboys insider mister Rob Phillips are a resident Super Bowl champion, Isaiah stand Back and the great heckm Harrison joining us as always. I'm Kyle Yeomans and guys, there are a couple updates to get to for the Cowboys and then we'll start kind of going into this this Vikings matchup as well. Plus it is fans on the fifty Tuesday, So send in your fan questions. I don't have a

ton of them right now. I know you guys are tired. I know, I know you're off the bye week. It's a little laxadaisical, but no sending your fan questions because we want to talk about them and we want to answer me chout you out at the same time. But rob a couple updates In terms of the Cowboys. Yesterday, Andy Dalton seemingly has passed both the COVID and concussion protocols and should be ready to go. Plus Mike McCarthy

expecting Cheeto to be back this week. Yeah, finally with Cheeto right now now, he I'll couch that and said, look, a couple of weeks ago, it sounded like he was going to play against the Eagles, I think, and he didn't, and he stayed on IR and they activated him last week. Really is almost a procedural move because he was right up against that three week practice window on ir to keep practicing. So but it does sound like he'll be back in the lineup and that that's big with Trayvon

out and Andy Dalton. You know, yeah, I mean if he's clear to practice, then obviously he's been cleared by the league to be on the field and do that. So that's that's great news. Mike McCarthy said, they'll take that throughout the week and see. So Garrett Gilbert stay ready. But you know that's that's a great sign for your offense because I just said this on the fan. It's funny how we've been talking about the defense all year long struggling and they put back to back solid games together.

It's the offense that has regressed since Dak got hurt, and maybe Dalton can can take a step forward and build on what Gilbert did against the Steelers. We will see, fellas heck, when whenever it comes to Andy Dalton in general, does it still give you kind of that same feeling that we had originally when he was coming in of Okay,

things are going to get back to normal. Things are gonna kind of find their way into place, whereas that was the original thinking, But I just want to know if it's the same kind of feeling for you or do you have any bubble guts whenever it comes to Andy Dalton, well, I'd i'd be lying. I I'd be lying to you too early in the morning. Man if I told you that I felt comfortable right now with

either of these guys. But it's uh, you know, I think with his experience we've talked about this at length, and his experience giving us a leg up as far as him ability to read defenses and get the ball out of his hand quickly. This week, that's definitely what he's gonna have to do because you know Minnesota, if you watch the game last night, Minnesota's going to apply

a ton of pressure. So I'm still in that place with Andy Dalton where I want to see him actually do it, you know, and have some positive things happen for him in this offense. I think we hadn't seen anything good happen for Andy in this offensive. I guess in the New York Giants game was the last time that he actually threw a touchdown or we had a touchdown.

So it's important to me to just find out what this week is going to be like for both of these quarterbacks, Gilbert and Dalton going into this week, when coach Mike McCarthy was asking about who he was gonna go with, he answered it kind of vague and just said that, hey, you know, we'll talk about this on Friday or Saturday once we have an opportunity to evaluate both of these guys. So it's really kind of cool to have a quarterback controversy in week eleven of the

NFL season. Well, I remember they said, if any Dalton's healthy, he's your man. That's what they said. That's what they said this week. I don't know, I know things changed all the time around here, but I had an opportunity to go back because I know there's been a lot of talk about Any Dalton and I obviously he spoke highly about him early on. Um, he came in, took care of business against the Giants, and then um obviously, UM, you know, kind of kind of got punched them out

for a little bit against against Washington. But I went back and I watched. You know what I'm saying, I don't I don't like to speak just so just off opinion. I want to speak off off of facts, which is what you should. Yeah, I want to talk to the people. You don't want to to the people to y'all. Um. So I went back and I watched, I watched the emotions, just just facts with me. I don't I don't have emotions. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right, I'm right.

You know it is the week eleven, everybody, you should figure that out. Yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna touch a little bit on this and in the film room. You know what I'm saying, you guys, you gotta check that out tonight. But but but I went back and I watched the film and any Dalton didn't do half as bad as I thought he did. Really, when we look at that watching the game, and the reason why is because other guys didn't take care of their of

their responsibilities. Right now, he could have done better. No disrespected, No, no disregard at all. Right, No, I'm not taking any accountability off of him at all. He needs to take that responsibility. He needs to do better. However, a lot of the situations that we face in that Washington game would due to a lot of failed assignments. Yeah, and assignments. Where had everybody done what they're supposed to do. Annie don't want to have had plenty of time to deliver

the ball. There are guys that are open. He has zero time to throw the ball. And it wasn't just the fact that he was sitting there patting the ball and holding onto it and things of that nature. Now he did some of that. Um, he am sure from between then and now, I'm sure he's he's kind of taking that self analysis, but um, you know, going forward, I feel good about him against this team. Even though

Minnesota's coming off a big win last night. I think that this we're set up well for this team that's coming in here, and I think that I think any Done's gonna do pretty good with that. If the officer line is a lot better, right Let's just that's facts. Officer line substantially better. The defense is playing better, The morality this team is better, the energy is better. I think the team is poised for a good position right now.

I'm glad you said that, Isaiah, because I felt like last week I felt like I was on a on an island, a rob Pe island with with Dalton. I felt like nobody was had my back on on bringing any back as a starter because of the way Garrett Gilbert played in that game. And I you know, he played, he played well, but you know how much of it were we comparing to what Benda Nucci rolled out there against the That's a good point and I'm not I'm

not again, I am not knocking Benda Nucci. I think it was a terrible situation where playing that game, and I thought Garrett, yeah, it really did. He wasn't ready, um, you know, as a seventh round pick. But I thought Gilbert did move the offense. He brings some mobility to the table. But remember the Cowboys kicked four field goals in this last game against Pittsburgh, four field goals and

those last two drives. One was really late time against them, but they didn't get things going late in the game. And you know, I think they feel like with Andy Dalton as a veteran guy. To your point, Isaiah, go back to the Arizona game. I don't even think you can evaluate him based off of that game with I think that was the Zeke Fumble's game and the lack of protect protection upfront. Uh. You know, I just didn't think it was a great situation for him in that

game either. So if he gets he's healthy, he's good to go. I feel better about it. I just do going forward with a more veteran guy. Now, now you now, Rob, I have to admit, Okay, you were on that island by yourself. Now, I was in the canoe and it was tied to the island. Okay, it was tied to a post, and I was out there halfway into the ocean. But I can still come out, still come back. So

I still believe that Gilbert. I feel if I was a coach, I would still go with the energy of the squad rail and I would still go with Gilbert. That does not take away the fact that I believe

that any Dalton can be successful and will be successful. Okay, but let me play Devil's advocate here for this specifically and the reason why, and in talking about Gilbert, I know y'all are both on the Andy Dalton's side, or at least at the moment you're in that that that boat literally, But whenever it comes to Garrettibert the canoe, Yeah, whenever it comes to Garrett Gilbert is what we saw on last Sunday. I guess against Pittsburgh is that the ceiling is that the most we're gonna get out of

Garrett Gilbert. There's a very good chance it is. There's a very good chance that that is the ceiling for Garrett Gilbert. Where's Andy Dalton? We know for a fact because like Jerry and Steven and Mike and everybody has said, Andy Dalton is a starter in this league, his ceiling is much higher. But is the floor for Gilbert higher

as well? Whenever we're talking about maybe the fact that there's a bigger range of controversy with Andy Dalton as well, I think, I mean, it's hard to compare to two, right, because any Dalton obviously has been to the Pro Bowl. He's been, he's been that guy, so we know what he's capable of, right, So we we seen what he's what he's put out right, and we know and then

we know what he's capable of. So here's a huge gap there, right, there's a huge gap that we're looking to feel as Gilbert when he came in, he was at the bottom in our eyes, right, everybody's eyes, he's at the bottom, right, So all of a sudden he performs and everybody's like, right, he raises up right, So then there's that question mark, it's like, what else can he do? Right? What else can he do? And and the truth is, we don't know what else he can do.

We don't know if he had a couple more weeks under his belt like he does now, how much better he would be as far as his timing with his receivers. We don't know how much more confident he would be with his cause, how much confident he would be with delivering the ball on time instead of waiting till guys come out of their routes. Right, So there's a lot of things we don't know. Versus Andy Dalton. We've seen his capability, so it's not really a fair comparison um.

And that's why that's why we're all based off opinions right now. Ema h Yeah, I'm out here on yacht Gary Gilbert. Yeah, I'm on the yat yach Gilbert. And I'm just taking it as man. This is this offense completely needs to change. I mean, we could talk about Andy Dalton and Gilbert at LID, but it's it's not that big a difference in these quarterbacks right now in

their career and what they're facing. And I just feel like, and you said it, Isaiah, when it comes down to the energy that you got from Gilbert and the Steelers game, I want to ride that. I mean, but this team has had a bye weekend. Obviously, with the COVID protocol, they were they were cheated out of at least getting a vibe for both of these quarterbacks in the offense.

But I think that you have. My opinion is go with Gilbert, and because I feel like just the energy and what he bought during the Pittsburgh game is enough for this team to possibly sell the division or getting more wins, right, And so I think that it maybe they go back to to Andy Dalton. But Guys, the comparison between the two, I just don't I don't think it is as big as we're trying to make it. I think there's something to be said for that, you know,

and Isaiah mentioned that too. Heck, the momentum factor and I have a bye week in between, but that was the first signs of life from the offense in three weeks, So I think there is something to be said for that.

You know, if you're talking about giving yourself the best, and we can talk about the team tanks stuff all we want, but if you're giving yourself the best chance to in and when this awful start to the division, when this race, I think you just logically you gotta at least go back to Andy and see how it goes. And you know, he doesn't preclude yourself from going back

to Garrett Gilbert. I things aren't going well, but yeah, I think that's probably what they're going to do, provided he has a good week of practice and is ready to go, and based off of what we heard this morning, and based off of what we've heard the last couple of weeks and everything. Whenever it comes to the Jones family and the coaching staff, they're not playing it on team Tank. We're not sitting here looking at a top five pick at least, right I mean, I know right

now we are. But there's a ton of people that want that to happen. But the coaching staff in this organization just isn't wired that way. They're never gonna be wired that way. And we're about to see a little bit of at least to turn around. I mean, Jerry even said it this morning. He wants to turn it around. He wants to find a way to win games down the stretch. And whenever you look at the next five games for Philly, there's a chance that they go into

week fifteen at with three or four wins total. Anyway, can we can we just say this cause anybody right now who's saying that this team should just tank and play for and play for draft picks, can we just put them in in a in a blow bubble right and saying that, let's put them in a bove real and say that if this team turns things around, if this team turns things around and goes to the playoffs and has a miraculous run, that they cannot get back

on the bandwagon. Oh you're saying, oh, you don't want them to get on whenever they get because the people the same people that say, oh, let's tank and oh you know, let's go ahead and play for draftings are the same people ow to be wearing dog on stars

and getting tattoos under four head of stars. When if these guys make a run and go for the dog on Super Bowl somehouse some way, right, which is I know it sounds crazy, but it's still possible, right, So I keep saying that it's still possible because it is. That's facts. Take the motion out of it. You can't play both sides. You guys can't. People can't sit up here and say, I know it's already been said. You can't sit up here and say that you want a

competitive team, a competitive organization. Who goes out there, he goes walls to the wall and then and expect guys go out there and tank. That's that's that's BS. That's BS. So if you guys are out there, I'm talking to everybody out there. If you guys are talking about anybody who has tweeted, said text any of that stuff said that you want this team to take and play for draft picks, y'all just just go ahead and take all the stars out your closet right now and put them

in put them in the attic. And you guys got to wait until next year, okay, because now it might go either way. It might go your way, and they might play. They might end up playing for draft picks, right. You never know. However, do not try to get back on the bandwagon. If these dudes start bawling, it's it's a question mark, But don't do. Yeah, you gotta put your pan next year. Yeah, if you check all your messages, just type in draft. If you send draft over the

last three weeks. Just put it, Yeah, just put it in a dog on closet, take all your clothes, Okay, you would be out. Yeah. Can I just ask what what tanking means? Like, yeah, please define mind that based based on like what we've seen this this year, because they're already playing younger guys out of necessity, out in part because out of need. And also you know, there are a couple of spots on defense where they said, we're not getting production, so we're gonna go to some

younger guys and it's actually paid off. They're minus thirteen in the turnover ratio that is by far the worse than the end of they have they have because of the way they've played this year, they have given themselves zero margin for error. So tell me what tanking means exactly? Because Rob, they're playing their hardest and they're not they're still not winning. So don't you know, I just don't get it. I don't get hey, hey, Rob and and

and the way that this season is going. They can go out there and play their hearts out all the way through and it still might be a bad season. So you're gonna end up with a top five pick anyway based off of the fact that you are playing with your fifth street quarterback and your officeive line is decimating. Your defense is historically bad. So whether you want to take or not. And I think the mentality with tanking has something to do with giving up. And that's not

a team in NFL that's about that. Well, maybe there are two or three, right, yeah, maybe that I'm trying to get that big about this. None if the coaches want to keep their jobs and everything involved there because nobody ever wants to lose for real. I mean, the only reason you end up tanking is if you you aren't very good. And I like we've talked about previously,

this is a team. This is an organization that feels like if things kind of roll the right way, you can you can have a good team, and you can run it back in twenty twenty one and have a good team. And there's so many different aspects that go into quote unquote tanking that it makes it tough and it's a decision making process. But I like how Rob said that it's even you can play as much as plays as hard as you want, it doesn't mean things

are going to go the right way. For you, but you want to find a way to try and get into the tournament. And right now we're still in the tournament at least at the moment, everything's still in front of you and Isaiah, I wanted to ask this just based off of what you were saying a moment ago. But from a players point, you never want to tank. There's never been an opportunity. There's no such things ever want to do that, right, No, there's no such thing.

You get ran out the locker room if you if you're out there low fan and not giving one hundred effort, you're getting ran out of the locker room. You guys understand when you guys, that's why, that's why Rob rob p asked a great question, what does the definition of taking? Because as a competitor, as a player, every time I step on the field, every time that that eye in the sky all right, that we talk about, it doesn't lie.

That is your resume. That's your resume. So you can go out there and half tell it if you want to. You're gonna mess with your own money going forward, right, whether it's on a team that you're ready with or whether there's a team that you might end up trying to go to you're messing with your own money. So there is no definition. There's no thing called tanking. Now now, now, I don't know what the front office talks about. Right, the front office might be positioning herself and start playing

for stuff with players. No, no such thing. Yeah, hey, you know, don't watch any Jets football games, text field games. Well yeah, I mean, well, I mean, I mean about opinion on that. I mean, everybody last year said that the Dolphins were taking right. The Dolphins last year were taking right. They were doing all their positioning themselves. Blas look at them. They win seven to one, and now they're winning a lot of games. They're balling, they're baling.

So what is taking right? More thing on it? Yeah, what is? I you know, like I'll just make an NBA reference because I love the league. Like it's this isn't a Golden State Warrior situation where they've won titles. They've got their culture. We talked about culture on the show a lot. In place. They just have a bunch of injuries for one year to steph and play and you know they're playing young guys and they're gonna get a great draft pick and be right back where they were.

This is a brand new staff, brand new schemes. As a fan, don't you want to see some sort of progress going into next season with Mike McCarthy or would you want to watch the first month of this season for the rest of the way. I just, if I'm a fan, I want the ladder, you know. And if you if your draft pick suffers a little bit, fine, you know, but because you're still gonna get healthy next year and you're still gonna be a better team next

year when you're at full strength pretty easily. I think whenever you look at everything that's gone wrong here in twenty twenty on the field and off the field, you can talk about how twenty twenty one should be better, and hopefully it will be for the Cowboys, And sure you would like to add a draft pick to that. And That's where I'm at too. I want to evaluate the draft and I want to provide as much content as I can to the fans out there that are

catering to that draft need. But there's a way you can be successful in the top five of the draft and in the mid twenties. There's a way you can do it both ways. If you really wanted to do it. The good teams figure it out. Every team figures it out from time to time. So we're gonna step aside. When we come back, though, It's time for some fans on the fifty. If you're in the periscope at the moment, send us your questions. Send them on Twitter as well.

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sound much better than we actually are. Isaiah standback, Rob Phillips, hat my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and time to get some some fan questions. You can continue sending these in throughout the segment, but we've got some good ones now rolling in and our guy Jay, who is talk about Jay? I want to take a second. We just went on our Talking Cowboys Ted talk on why you should be non bandwagon er fans. Jay is the definition of a true diehard fan. And Jay is a fantastic guy as well.

He's and it's not even just with our show, it's every show as the day goes on, and we appreciate Jay all the time. And he asked fantastic questions. He says, who do you guys see taking mister Trayvon Diggs spot whenever it comes to the cornerback position. Of course, Trayvon Diggs rookie second rounder out four to six weeks with a broken fractured foot. Where do you see the Cowboys

going in terms of replacing him? Because he brought an element the Cowboys haven't had that position in a long time. That's a good question. I think it's gonna look like, um, you know, with the healthy guys that got, it's probably gonna look like it's been you know, a couple of years ago, where it's Cheeto and Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis probably your top three guys. I would imagine, am I missing somebody? Probably not Brown, Cheeto Lewis? But where

who's gonna be on the top guy though? Is gonna be Anthony Brown or is it gonna be Cheeto? I think it's just a b right now. He's the healthier guy.

I mean, I don't think it would be look just depends on where Cheeto is right now and his his hamstring, and so I think the coaches would know that you also have Savion Smith, who did not play very well at all against Pittsburgh, but still he's he's a guy that you could bring in in some some nickel, but still, you know this Lewis uh is gonna be your inside guy, and Brown and Cheeto I would imagine would be your starting corners on Sunday. I'm a double up at heck,

M double up. Heck, got nothing else to add. That's it. And if they play sides, you know, you're just kind of matching up with who's on your side. And uh, but you know that you brought up Savion Smith. Heck, if they're gonna play Savion Smith, who uh they like? But you drafted Reggie Robinson and I know they're not going to do this, probably because they move Reggie to safety. But if you're hurting a corner, I just I want

to see Reggie Robinson. I heard so many good things about him coming out of the draft and actually talking to his position coach at Tulsa, and I was excited to see him competing and I haven't seen him. I haven't even seen him on special teams, which he also excelled at in college. Now there's seven games left, but I would like to see him on the field at some point, d p ay. Reggie Robinson is to me as Bradley and I is to Kyle where we need to that's take a moment every week waiting to see

Reggie Robinson. I don't know why, but I have something about Reggie. I'm looking forward to see him play well. With this being said, our guy pass is already jumping the gun and he asked us the question on Twitter a while ago, why won't they free Reggie Robinson? And then he used the hashtag hashtag free Reggie Robinson. Free Reggie is now something we need to get trending on Twitter and we get some t shirts made. That sounds great,

but it is. It's easy to forget about him because he hasn't been on the field and he hasn't been at I forgot about him. No, I agree. I don't think any of us have forgotten about him. But whenever you haven't seen forty one on the field, you want him to make a debut. Whether it's at corner or whether it's at safety. Right now, it doesn't matter to me.

I just want to see him play and see something because we saw flashes rob even in training camp where he looked good and played decently even as a rookie in that spot too, But we just haven't gotten a chance to see him. Yeah, I mean the fact that he's moved to safety. I understand maybe they think he's not ready to help, although you've watched him play like six different guys at safety this year. Uh. The thing that gets me at special teams because um, he I

think he had three or four block kicks in college. Yep. He played every special team's unit at Tulsa. I just think he could help you potentially there at some point on the coverage units. And and we're not there yet. So um, I don't know that that one's That one's surprising to me. And Mike McCarthy has been asked about it and he's basically said, I want to see him get to special teams first. That's that's the goal. But it's it's we're not We're not there yet. It's crazy

to me. Hecma, well, Isaiah, I mean, I thought Isaiah's gonna break out the free Regid Robinson teams. There it feels it feels like it's the preseason and they and they're like holding a practice practice squad player the guy they want to bring back. They don't want to show him, you know, That's what it feels like. But he's collected eleven checks now, you know, and and and good for him, you know, stack him up. He's healthy, you know. But got dog man. I want to see the boy. I

want to see him playing. It's not like I can't imagine that everybody else who's played before him is that much better than him. I just can't foresee. Yeah, I just can't foresee that now. But not Wilson, but Thompson backfire. My opinion has been of Reggie Robinson just coming out of the division that he came TELSA. I don't I

don't know what that division is. That he played the American athletic that a lot of those guys American athletic like kids like that probably need your rookie OTAs and two of days to get acclimated with the NFL UM. I think with the coaching staff and all of the evaluating that they do daily, if Reggie Robinson was ready to go, he would have been on the field. Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't do that. Head and I'm there. I just feel like the evaluation has happened. No,

he's moved, he's moved to he's moved positions. He's safety now. And I'm with Rob when when I when I say that his best chance of getting on the field is probably going to be special teams and he hadn't even got there on that. So he's a guy that is active every week and collect the checks. But at the end of the day, there has to be something to his game that has given these this coaching staff pauls Heck, yeah, come on, say I need to get out the rep shirt. No, don't.

You don't need the rep shir because I'm aout to end this right now. The back Typically I typically would go with that answer. Heck, the fact that you sypically that you know the coaches and you know the scows and everybody else have evaluated him, and you know he just must not be ready, all I'm gonna say is Gucci Thenucci. Obviously we're not that dog On good at at evaluating who's ready who's not ready. So dog on it,

put Reggie out there. That's all you had, that's that's all you That's all I need, that's all I need, that's all you had. No, No, they didn't really have. Yeah, theyn't have a choice. If you think if there was somebody else out there, I would have won the staying up. They could have They could have called your boy. I would have put the headphones down and I would have came out there. Okay, no, lord, No, I would have loved it. I would have known you. I would have

paid to see that. Well, they would have paid to see it too, because that's only I would have got out there. We would have that's fair, fair, that's a good point. And it would have had to be a hefty check at that point as well. We would have had to get Chris Beam to take our little road road set up and take the road caster, and we would have to sit out on the practice field and be like Mike, listen, listen, listen, listen, that's our guy.

We know there's no practice availability for media, but this is different. I would have loved I would have loved for them to see me. I would have drove the cart to pick you up off. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I got money on it. I'm still faster than eighty percent of the dudes on the squad right now, right now, hey man, I would take and I would put it on the side against you, against me? Yeah, No, I think you're eighty percent I am. I'm just saying there. I mean, do I need to bring do I need

to bring out some film? Film? Now? Hey, y'all know I own a gym, right you know? You know do you own a track? I have a track? Okay, okay, okay. I just wanted to know if you do you see this right now? Are you seeing this right now? I'm here? Yeah. I feel like the next time we take this out to the Tostitos, you know, out there in front of that in front of the I feel like we have to race on the dog on front line. Now I'll race you. It'll be terrible. I think of funny Sebazy.

You hear that in the back Listen up, next time we're out there in the front yard is going down basement insurance company. We wait to get this pool hamstring that college is gonna have. Please, ain't nobody trying to race you? Champ Man going on with that. I'm telling you I'm driving the car. I'm driving the cart through to come get you off the field. Dog. Believe that I would look like rich icing out there. He got this little suit run I would just be like struggling

and labor in the whole time. Yeah, that would be that would be fun. Oh man. Okay, so we've kind of gotten off track a little bit and our time starting to run out. But we've got a really good question from Joe Ferguson. I want to get to it. On the other side of the break, We're gonna knock this breakout. We'll continue fans on the fifties since we

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curtain again. We do a film room right after this six and we go into Oh gosh, we go. We go and do the film room right after this, and Isaiah are talking about maybe going out to the Toastitos Fiesta Plaza and maybe running really quickly just for fun. Yeah, okay, we'll see. Isaiah's pumped about it. But got some fans on the fifty questions we want to get to here before we run out of time here on this edition of Talking Cowboys, and Joe Ferguson brings up the question.

It's very simple one. But someone is on the open market as of yesterday because of some legal issues and legal decisions, and we can get into this as much as we want or as little as we want, but he asked, what do you all think about DeAndre Baker in terms of the cornerback position and the former first round corner that is now on the open market due to his case being dropped in kind of something that

really it honestly needs a Netflix documentary. How crazy his whole thing has been back and forth, but Jerry was asked about it this morning, So I'm asking you, guys, what do you think about DeAndre Baker? Rob He's a talented player, Um, the guys that the fan asked me about it, and be honest with you, I haven't followed that whole case that closely. I mean, I saw what happened yesterday with I think his charges were dropped correct. Yeah, it's part of an extortion case. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

Really talented guy. I just think I think, you know, any team's got to kind of dig into what happened. I think figure out what's going on with that UM. And Jerry was asked specifically about him on the fan this morning and just kind of said, look, we're always looking to upgrade our team, but we're you know, he didn't really comment on it specifically, So that's just kind of where it is. Just a kind of a strange deal. Huh Yeah, strange to say the least. Yeah, you gotta

kick the tires. You gotta kick the tires on the guy like that. And I think that Will McClay and his staff are doing that for every player in the league period, just trying to find out if they can upgrade this roster. And we talked about it was it groove on to move on yesterday and I think once I got to my move on, I pretty much got rid of half the defense. So if we're turning over the roster at the rate that I was talking about,

then definitely, yeah, man, it's worth giving this guy. Look, I don't know enough about him, so Okay, I can't really comment on him. That's fine, that's fine. And he that's the thing is really what do we know about him in terms of an NFL roster because right now it ends up being very minimal tape And then you had the legal issues that kind of arose, and sure you got what you had in college and Georgia, but ultimately you're you're still going to go off of what.

I guess what you're ceiling for him is you would treat him like a first round pick, but the contract is going to be odd because of the issues that were off the field. It's going to be very interesting.

It's a complicated matter overall, But I think a lot of people would take him, And I think, like Heckma said, you have to kick the tires, right, you gotta, especially when it's a position of need, and it's a position that most likely you're going to spend a very very high pick on in the first round of the draft, maybe the second round of the draft. Why not kick the tires on him. Why not try and see what's out there and maybe sure up your defense a little bit.

A friend of mine texted me last night about it, and he said, what would you think about a Treyvon Diggs, A DeAndre Baker and a Patrick's Certain who's a top draft prospect right now that you could get in the mid teens. You could don't have to get him in the top ten at least right now. All those three there's a guy those three. I'm just saying those three guys, and I said mid teens. I didn't say top five.

He's not a top five pick. So I'm saying, even in the middle of that first round where you picked last year. If you even if you're in the middle of that first round and you could get a Patrick's certain and those three to guys would be unbelievable to find a way to do it. Now, moving on from there, there was a draft question that was that was involved in in the fans on the fifty and since you guys just don't want to talk about draft, we won't

do that. Now I will ask and I say this, how do you feel about or excuse me, here's the questions from strike Chris on the periscope. He said, do you all think if we win the division we will sign Dank to a long term deal or would you tag him? Isah? Hopefully they would. They will honor him and sign him to a long term sign him. It's disrespectful to tack somebody, especially at that position. Is it literally is taken as a sign of disrespect. There's no it's no other way to go about it. Um, they

have the money to do it. Um, they had the time to do it, and they chose not to. Now they have all the time in the world to do it. If they franchise tack him again. I don't like the franchise tack. First of all, I don't, don't thirty five million dollars. It doesn't matter, It doesn't, it doesn't matter. No, Yeah, I'm asking close to thirty eight. Yeah, it's gonna be thirty eight million dollars worth of disrespect, I think. So

check this out. Heck, it's disrespectful because you work your butt off to get to that point in your career where you can leave. Right, You work your butt you grind business, You grind business. Yes, but I'm saying it's it's a disadvantage, right if you the same the same the same power that the ownership has to be able to say you can't go anywhere. You've worked your butt off to get to this point. Now you can't go anywhere.

I think the players, somehow, someway should have the same way, the same power to veto that, because that's it's just it's you have so much time as a professional athlete, right as especially you have a very small window of time, and if you work your butt off to make sure that you're ensure that you've done everything you can to get to that point to where you're even in a conversation to get franchise tagged, you should they should not have the power to do so, I just I personally don't.

I think it's just unfair. There's a lot of things unfairness league, but that's one thing that's that's definitely unfair. And honestly, what happened to Dak with the ankle is exactly why yep, yep, no, And you can look at it. I see it that way as well. But when you talk about the word Dak is trending even after the ankle injury, he's he's he's gonna be fine. I mean, you talk about the injury and his rehabbing, him coming back. I would love a long term deal with Dak. I was.

I was hoping forward before the season even started. We didn't get it. Uh, And so the way that things are are progressing with this whole negotiation with Dak, it looks to be that that's where we're leaning towards getting him signed to a long term deal. You look at the cap. The cap is the Dallas Cowboys cap. We're in a bad situation with that. So to even relegate thirty eight million dollars for just one player for one year, it's gonna take away our ability to get other players signed.

So I think with to that regard, we may not want to cap him, but I mean franchise him. But come on, now, I mean that we're dealt. But look at the situation that Dak's in currently, right, Dak's almost in a situation where I don't want to put this on him because it's not coming from his words, but where he's almost hoping that his team doesn't do that

right because it improves his stock. Right as an individual, being selfish, as an individual, you you almost hope that your team doesn't do that well because now they miss you right now, they need you now, they have to

pay you. Now. They if any dogman who came out here and balled out right now, look at look at the position that he's in, yeah, look at a position that he's in an came out, yeah yeah, his leverage goes down, his stock goes down, you know, because now people are looking at and says he wasn't as important to this team, right, So I mean, it's it can go either way, and that's the reason why the franchise tag is so bad. Look at Earl. Look at Earl Thomas.

Right when Earl Thomas came back. Earl Thomas came back right now, last year where he wanted to get his contract extending out. He wasn't a franchise tag, but he wanted to get that extension to hire. I feel like he should have got that, should have got that extension, and he didn't. He tried to hold out, and any what did he do. He said, I'm gonna come back for the team because of my teammates. And then what it end up happening. Yeah, right, got hurt, broken life. No,

that's that's that's no. I get it. I understand exactly what you're saying. I'm just talking about as far as Dak and his where he is right now, and by the time he gets to the end of his career, he's going to be a very wealthy man. And so I just look right now the way that the things have gone this year. I think you hindsight is always twenty twenty and you can say, oh my god, we

should have got a long term deal going. And whether the narrative is he's making more money not playing because of how bad the offense looks, that's a whole nother thing as well. We didn't look that good when he was playing, and so that we needed to get better obviously, But there's so many variables to that, right, and that's we're going to talk about that all off season. But still, man, I think Dak is going to be handsomely taken care of for the rest of his career as long as

he's you know, healthy obviously well. And if you if you tag Dak and you don't get a long term deal done prior to that July fifteenth deadline, then you're basically, I mean, that might be it. That's it. I mean, you got one year with him, and then he's going to test the open marketing and he's gonna get his money.

It's gonna be a tough task to get him back. Remember, the only two quarterbacks who had ever been on the franchise tag twice was Kirk Cousins left Drew Brees left back the year after they were on their second franchise tag. So you talk about the fact of the matter is is someone will pay this quarterback. Somebody will pay a premium for Dak Prescott. So if you tag him again, you're ultimately saying, all right, test the market, we'll see what you get out there, and we'll find our way

on our own. And I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think they're going to get a deal time. I think they very well might tag him just to keep that window going. You know, if they have to tag him by March, that's possible, just to keep talking. But yeah, I'm with you, Kyle. I just think I mean, maybe I'm being naive and there's a lot of skeptics out there that don't think the Cowboys are really going to push to sign him. They've but they've put offers

on the table. It just hasn't gotten done. I think what's happened with the ankle and him being out. I think it's like Isaiah said, man, I think it's it's more than just what he brings when the ball is snapped. I mean, I think clearly his leadership has missed um. There's a lot of intangibles with Dak Prescott point. We're seeing that, and that's that's why I think it's it's gonna get done. I really believe it's gonna get done after the season. But Chris Beam did some math for

us on on on our webcam. I guess that's the was that the was that the total money he would make Chris on the on the tag over two years. Yeah, it was like close to seventy million to heckx point. Yeah, that's that's great. Yeah, I know, but think about been thinking about the long term security though, Yea, with a long term deal, it's it's well beyond that. I'm just soaking guys, this is all good now. Yeah, I would take that disrespect too. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. I'd be

cool with just one seventy years hundred dollar bills. Now, Okay, that's one way to end the show. But whenever we're we're talking about I want to go off of what Rob just said. And and I think that's funny because we whenever we started this group, whenever we first got on this show last offseason, we were talking about the Dak saga. Prior to that, we were talking about the Dak saga. Well, we just when we thought another wrench couldn't be thrown into it, the injury got thrown into it.

And you have another wrench that's into this whole deal, and it just adds complexity to the whole thing, and it's something that you're gonna have to deal with. But other than that, I think that I think that's gonna do it. For us, I'm talking Cowboys. I'm trying to get past one hundred. I'm trying to get past one hundred. I don't even want that visual action. I don't either. I don't want it either. All Right, that's gonna do it for us, for Chris Beam in the bag, for

heck By Harson, for Rob Phillips, Uti stand back. It wasn't uppercutting. That's knocking us out here. On Talk to Cowboys, I'm Kyle. You almost will see you tomorrow nine thirty here on Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.