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Talkin' Cowboys: Will The Defense Rebound?

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After giving up 49 points to the Browns last Sunday, how do the Cowboys matchup against the Giants offense directed by former head coach Jason Garrett. The crew explores.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World hewnours at the Star in Frisco. Say, and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys Week five, Episode three as Giants week as now upon us here from the Star

in Frisco. The team back out on the practice field this week as a whopping leader of the NFC East in a four and oh perfect start to the season for your Dallas Cowboys. Oh wait, that's not what happened. They're going on the practice field one in three, right, I messed that up? Oh man, Yeah, so just to keep it on. Still a little disappointed, it's still a little butt hurt from the first couple weeks of the season.

On my end, however, I am encouraged because we're getting some reinforcements back this week and of course a team on the other side that is oh and four and doesn't have a win so far in the division, and we're going to break it down for you Cowboys defense. How are they going to stop this Giant's offense that has been pretty easy to stop, to say the least in terms of the first four weeks of the season. Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Heck Harrison with

you here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Glad you with us and Rob. We saw some roster moves yesterday. Brandon Car the veteran corners last safety out in Dallas, and big reason for that is the potential return from Anthony Brown. Is that the case going forward and one of the big reasons White Car was released. Well, I think you can kind of connect the dots there potentially. I think, you know, Mike McCarthy will talk to us after the show and they get back to practice today. He is

eligible to come off of IR this week. They put him on IR, I think the Saturday before the Week two game against Atlanta. So they've got fifty one guys on the fifty three man roster now, so there's there's room to bring guys on from IR. There's there's other guys eligible. I think Layton's eligible, Sean Lee cam Fleming, I think Cheeto's got another week before he's eligible, and I don't. I don't think he's quite ready anyway. But if they get Brown back, man, that's that is big.

And you know, the Brandon Carr think surprises me, guys a little bit. I just I expected him to step in and if not, start be more part of a rotation, and he wasn't. He played. I think he was active for all four games and played twenty one snaps. So a little surprising there. Yeah, yesterday, yesterday, Rob, you were talking about seeing him a little bit more than the announcement came that he was released from the team. I said, well, there goes that. Rob. We won't won't be seeing that,

but you guys are Rob, You're right. Getting Brown back is going to be used for us. His experience on the outside. I think we've been missing that. We saw obviously last week that Worldly Uh didn't have his best ally as the keeping it nice, but brown, brown Brown would be Uh and Uh an addition to our defense that I think anyone would welcome. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Brown's coming back. Um, I don't believe that's the reason why b Car was cut, but we're gonna leave it

at that. You know, b Car got cut because Brown's coming back. Um, there's other rumors that are out there, but you know, at the end of the day, his ten is over here. Um, good luck to him in the future and hopefully Brown brings something that he was that a car wasn't. Okay, So is this a is this a rumor that we can't necessarily talk about on air, or is this just you making a joke? Well, what is the reason you think? I I feel that I feel as if the rumor that's going around, and I

don't have any merit to the rumor. I don't have even a real source. I don't know if it's really good to talk about it here. But the rumor is that he spoke up about their defense and a defensive coordinator and their their level of play and their level of play calling to date, and that kind of that kind of saw his exit about it there. So I have seen that happen in the NFL before US, not a league that really likes people to step up and speak against the regime and they kind of get you

up out of there when you do. So, Um, that's what I've heard. If that is the truth, and it makes sense because I've seen it happen in the past. But again, I don't. I don't have a valid source on that, So it's just rumors, gotcha, and rumors do

fly whenever moves are made like that. But also the Cowboys adding a couple of tackles, one to the active roster and Greg Snat who spent last year with Kansas City, who was uninjured reserve for a good amount of time and then started the year on the Browns practice squad and the cow was went and plucked him. So he's currently on the fifty three man roster that sits at

fifty one at the moment. But whenever it comes to these editions and you talk about secondary and the fact that you cut a secondary player hopefully to get Anthony brownback, but you had two more tackles, Rob, what is the thought process behind this? You've got Terrence Steal, Brandon Knight already there. I know that we have Cam Irving that's available to return this week. But as this just maybe another depth move from a Cowboys perspective of adding a

pair of tackles here, Yeah, I think so. I think I would put offensive tackle as one of the hardest positions to find depth. It's really hard. Usually if teams have them, they hang on to him in training camp, and so you don't see a lot of movement with

tackles after final cuts. And yeah, I mean, as many issues that they had on the offensive line, I think if they can find somebody they you know, and maybe shuffle in and out, you know, Alex lights out of here and you know, try to add some potential depth in case they have more problems up there than they got to do that. And you know, cam Irving, I'm not sure exactly where he is in his rehab, but they said it could be a four to six week deal.

So if that's the case, then he's not quite ready anyway. So that's probably the thought process there. Yeah, it's kind of I think it's red flags, man. I think it's red flags. Guy here. I just I don't like it.

I don't like it you keep bringing in tackles. To me, it's it's just being that you have Tyron Smith back, right, he's back, he played, he played a good game, and you bring in more tackles, right all that sile This is a red flag to me that Lall Collins is probably not looking like he's gonna come back anytime soon, if come back at all, Because why would you continue to add depth at his position if you intend if you expect him to come back. So to me, that's

a red flag. It's not good on that right side. Hopefully they can find somebody that's permanent. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, I think the reports were over the weekend he was gonna have surgery today and that has had been confirmed by by the team officials. Uh. You know, they've been kind of vague about it, as they have with a lot of injuries. But it doesn't sound like

he's gonna play this season. So yeah, they're they're looking for contingency plans and obviously they've shuffled that position during the game and um, and we'll see what happens there. But you know, Cam Fleming when he comes back, he's a veteran piece. But he didn't win the job in training camp. He didn't play a lot in training camp, but he didn't win it. Why do I always do that? Man? Maybe good this weekend he's on the other side, we're gonna talk to make sure. We're gonna talk about that

Giants offense. Yeah, no, thank you, thank you. I've written I've been called out about that. Um. Yeah, they just they need options. They need options on that side, and I think Brandon Knight's probably their best option, and maybe he's gonna get to start again on Sunday. We'll see. Yeah, it's it's understating that the death problem that we have at the offensive line, and again, it's just been a game of musical chairs, especially when you go back to

the Seattle game with Martin finishing that right tackle. We have to find the balance that we're looking for in the offensive line, and we just hadn't got there yet. Obviously, you guys have been able to isolate situations with steal against other you know, defensive ends in the league that they've gotten the best of them. I think with the yardage and everything, the coaches are just not fooling themselves to think that they're in a good place offensive line wise.

They see these guys every day and they know that they need to get more depth. Then they currently have four offensive tackles on the practice squad, they have four offensive tackles on the active roster, and then they have two on irm Lyle Collins and uh with at least at the moment, Cam irving this week. So they've got ten signs they must become get ready to come out with what they must be get ready to come out with a nine nine old lines or setting or someone

offensive formation. I don't know what the thing they're doing. A bunch of offensive tackles and then zeke and tack in the backfield and that's it. That's that's what you're running with moving forward. Okay, So we also got the We also got the news this morning that Snax Harrison, one of our targets in yesterday's GM session, has reportedly agreed to sign to the Seattle Seahawks dot dot dot practice squad. As now, he is off the market at

the moment. Now we'll see if that stays. If he stays on the practice squad for very long, he may not be able to because they'll probably pull him up or somebody will pluck him pretty quickly. But Snax Harrison, at least for the moment, off the roster. But I mentioned Anthony Brown earlier in that secondary and what he brings to the table coming back, and we've seen the struggles from the secondary. Treyvon Diggs has had a rough go of it as a rookie in his first four

games of his professional career. Seemingly you have an easier matchup this week, but then you've got DeAndre Hopkins and Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of things. Also Christian Kirk, who's had a pretty good season for Atlanta coming up or excuse me, Arizona coming up in week six. But heck, whenever you look at Anthony Brown and what he brings to the table from a cornerback position, the depth of

having him back already improves. But what does he specifically bring back that you have been missing desperately over the last four weeks. He's a He's a good tackler. I would say that we've had so many busted plays and miscommunications and coverages, but a lot of it is attributed to mistackles, and our secondary has been doing a very poor job of that. I'm hoping that Anthony Brown is the piece that we can put into at least stop these big plays. We've had guys just running free, not

being able to get guys on the ground. And if from that perspective, I think tackling is one or being physical is one of Anthony brown strong suits. Yeah, that's the that's the point I was gonna I was gonna hit on heck is a physical aspect, right it's the physicality of the grit, the tenacity that he has. I think that this this secondary is missing right now. Um. It's another reason why I think we've been talking about

other individuals on that are out there in free agents. UM, hope he could bring in for those for those same characteristics. So hopefully he brings that. Hopefully he is that same player, he brings that to the squad, and hopefully you know, um, he brings a level of competitiveness to this group that hasn't obviously hasn't been present. And you know what, it does get easier this week. I know you mentioned Hopkins in a week from now, and I know the Giants

will We'll get into their offense. It hasn't been good, but they have guys back there, uh that that can that can run routes and get separation and make plays. I mean three four different receivers including Evan ingram Um and and you know some of their problems has been pass protection upfront. But if they get that, then they've got receivers who can win routes that it's not going

to be easy against against this Cowboys secondary. Again, it's gonna be something that I think we'll see this week specifically, I mean Golden Tate, who seemingly is not going to be suspended for his altercation with Jalen Ramsey following last week's matchup. He will be available, and even if the league decided to throw a suspension on there is probably going to be an appeal and so he would probably

play this week anyways. However, you're exactly right. I think this is going to be a week where you need to get healthy from a secondary perspective, and Anthony Brown coming in certainly helps you out in that regard. But I think it just takes pressure off of Trayvon Diggs a little bit, Isaiah, because Diggs has been really the one having to carry the load of facing a top wide receiver. You may not have to throw him on a golden tape. Sterling Shepherd's on ir so that's probably

their top receiver at the moment as well. But you look at those guys in the secondary, just having Anthony Brown back just adds that much more confidence in that secondary that absolutely needs it. Yeah, it's gonna ask some confidence, man, Like I said, I just more than anything, Like I said, that's just the competitive side, man. You need competition at every position, and I don't feel like this position has as much as we talked about it going into the season.

With all the depth that they have, right, we didn't say all the talent that they had, but we said all the depth that they had, we would you would assume that it would have been a highly competitive group because everybody's vying for time. Everybody's vying for you know, for for those snaps. You know, you don't get that many snaps. So um, I think Brown brings that and and and this week you already mentioned it. You know Golden,

I know Golden. Golden's my dog. We used to we used to stay up and go to game stops and try to get Call of Duty games at midnight, you know, at the unreleased dates. So I know him. He's competitive. But Golden's not going to run by you, you know. So that's that's not a challenge. And that's where we've had issues at this year as people running by us. Not necessarily stuff underneath, but the guy's getting over the top.

So this is a great week to bounce back, build some confidence because next week, U, yeah, be back at it. And you know what, I feel the same way. But I gotta say this, Kyle, when it comes down to Anthony Brown, he's not going to improve your pass for us. And if he's not going to improve that pass for us, he's gonna be sitting on an island for four or five seconds. And look, Daniel Jones as bad a years

he's having right now. If you give the guy enough time to see the field, he can find an open receiver. And so that's some of the problems that the back end of our defense is having. It's just the lack of a pass rush and getting quarterbacks on the ground. So love to see Anthony Brown back. We just you know, outlined his physicality and what he's gonna be able to do from that standpoint, but this defense is historically bad and they have problems up front that Isaiah in your

film study you pointed out. I mean, we're just losing the line of scrimmage. And I know we're gonna talk about the Giants offense. It it it doesn't matter who you play, it doesn't matter who you go up against. If you're giving up three hundred and seven yards rushing, you're gonna

get beat by the bad News Bears. That's a great point because this past week against Cleveland, your thought process was, Oh, we're gonna We're gonna get run all over by Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb and Steadin ended up being de Earnest Johns In that ran for the team high total exactly the team high total from Cleveland with ninety plus yards. And I guess originally you go into this matchup in week five and you say, oh, my gosh, here comes

Sequon Barkley. We can't stop the run. Now. Barkley, of course sideline with his ACL injury that he's sustained in week two, but it's Dion Lewis, Wayne Gallman, Devanta three minutes, a three headed attack again from the New York side of things, which is what we saw from Los Angeles in week one. So it'll be tough to stop when we come back though. Here on Talking Cowboys, we're gonna talk about that. That Giant's offense, just how poor has

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take a listen, Doctor and Cream Soda. Is he a Newcombonet's music to my ears? Okay? Doctor time music to my ears and mouth New Doctor Pepper and Cream Soda. Delass to talk in Cowboys, Here we Go was setment number two here of this Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys. Glad you're with us here on Dallas cow Boys dot com at the veriest streaming platforms, and of course I got to start with our reads today. Get the ultimate fan experience for the ultimate Cowboys fan joined Dallas Cowboys United,

presented by Globe Life. Starting at just twenty dollars, visit Dallas Cowboys dot Com slash United. I'm gonna start giving HECMA reads. I feel like Heckma could have a solid read every now and again. The sultry, the sultry voice of Smooth Jay. I had the sultry voice of Harrison. We had the trust tree, and we were in the next yesterday whenever we were breaking down this team and

the performance that we saw last week. Yeah, we've got plenty of treaties, one tree, other, one try, but let's break down this, uh, this burning tree of the Giants offense because it has been rough so far for old pal Jason Garrett who makes his return to AT and T State, And we all knew this day was coming.

It was circled on the schedule that Jason Garrett was going to make his return as of course the offensive coordinator now for the New York Giants, and he returns with headlines surrounding him in New York, but not for the right reasons. Rob It has been a dismal start for Jason in New York, but really he doesn't have a whole lot to work with with no sequon Barkley and now Sterling Shepard quite possibly his top target out

due to injury at the moment. But what have you seen so far from this Giants offense that the Cowboys defense can absolutely take advantage of. I've seen not a lot of points scored by the Giants offense. I think they're averaging like eleven and a half points so far through four games. And Daniel Jones just continues to have

problems back there, and some of it's on him. Some of it's, you know, holding the ball too long and waiting for things to develop behind an offensive line that doesn't give him a lot of time usually, And he got sacked five times by the Rams. They had some false starts and they just got themselves in a lot of down and distance problems. And that's kind of been the story for them throughout it that. You know, they've had trouble running the ball, they've had trouble throwing the ball.

And I'm kind of surprised they hung in there against the Rams and lost by eight points because they, you know, they really couldn't talk about control the line of scrimmage they had, they had a lot of trouble doing that, but they did find a little bit of something in the running game. In Week four, they were last in rushing before that last game and they ended up with

like one hundred and thirty something yards. So I'm looking at that and I'm saying, Okay, we think this is a get right game, but the Cowboys are gonna have to go out and show that they can stop the run because Jason Garrett's gonna come out and try to do that. Like that's we know that about him. He wants a power running game and take the pressure off his young quarterback. So I fully expect him to test the Cowboys defense that way. Okay, Well, look, Danny Danny Dimes.

He wins two straight games as a rookie, and they give him a nickname, Danny Dimes, and ed comes new offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett, and now he's looking like he's looking like Daniel Paso. He's not looking good at all. He's a sitting duck. He's a sitting duck for our

defensive offensive line in PF grade. Everyone's failing. But the thing about a team like the Giants and what makes them so dangerous is the fact that their offensive coordinator they knows personnel who we are, and so that gives them a leg up on just kind of circling who guys what their limitations are. But at the same time, I mean I'm not overlooking them. I feel like from a running back standport, it's Wayne Gallman to me is the more explosive between Lewis and Freeman. But you know, look,

it's gonna come down. It's gonna come down to the Cowboys stopping them from getting into any kind of rhythm. It's not Golden Tape that worries me. It's probably gonna be Darius Slayton That's gonna give you a lot more of a threat. As far as stretching the field vertically, I know they're hurt, but they're at the tight end. They're as good as any team because Evan Ingram he can run all the routes and he's probably gonna be

isolated with the safety or a linebacker. So let's not just look over this team and think this is a feel good game that we can you know, homecoming right now, because they're not you know, fam you they're gonna come into players. Jeez um. Yeah. So Jason Garrett, uh, you know, Jason Garrett is gonna get up there. He's gonna say, guys, we're just gonna you know, we're just gonna show up and we're gonna play. You know, we're gonna play every day, and we're gonna every every down and you know, every

every every play. One thing you guys can guarantee that's gonna happen is I'm gonna get clapping, y. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, this team, this this often sucks. There's no way another way around it. And I'm even gonna sit there here and trying to make him sound like they that they're gonna be competitive. They such their officive coordinators. Yeah, their office of coordinator sucks. It's been the same offense for a very long time that he's been running. Everybody in

the league knows it. His running back situation is his dog on musical chairs. His offensive line is terrible. They play with terrible leverage. They can't hold a block for point two seconds. Their quarterback has happy feet back there like he's a little penguin. The receivers they're not. I mean, they have they have slating that can run by you, but other than that, they're not running by anybody. Ingram has for the last three years, has had the potential

to be a really good tight end. But that's all that we've been talking about as a potential, he hasn't done much and maybe that's in part to their ability for them to actually get him the ball. They're just bad news Bears. And if our team doesn't just totally just take a baby wiping, get these guys off the dog on surface, I don't know what we're gonna do, because this is about as easy if a game as you can hope for. No wait, man, wait a minute, Champ.

Now you know it's you know, it's any given Sunday, And the last thing that we want to do as a historically bad defense is breathed any confidence into an already bad team. And from a I mean, we're giving up the most yards in Russian passing, we're not getting

any turnovers. So even with all that said, and just how you outline so eloquently how bad they are, there's still a team that if you give them a first quarter in which they score with two touchdowns, that's going to breathe life into a team that really is looking for a reason to lay down. Don't you think a

defibrillator couldn't bring these guys office back to life? Understanding I'm trying, I think, I mean, I'm a fantastic point here, though, because as much as you're saying about the Cowboy or about the Giants offense being that bad and a okay, listen, listen to the Cowboys defense right now the same let me, let me, let me, let me put this to rest. Okay, the Giants, the Giants offense is the worst in the league statistically, so is the Cowboys defense. Because listen, listen, listen,

I'm coming back. I know, I know, it's it's Wednesday, It's not Friday yet. Kind you gotta wait for and say it with your chest, because there's statistically the worst offense in the league, not only because of execution, but because of their their talent level facts defensive side of the ball. For the Cowboys, we're the worst statistical defense in the league because of execution, not because of talent. So if your defense that's full of talent decides to

actually execute, then guess what. You can go from the bottom of the barrel to the top of the barrel real quick in a hurry, which I think this defense is going to do over these next four weeks. This offense has zero chance. Their offensive coordinator is not good, their quarterbacks not very good, their office line is terrible. The running back situation that he just got out there. He's trying to get established. He doesn't know what the heck is going on. He don't know what he's signed

up for. They're not a good team, all right. I'm just saying from the team that I when I when I played with him, we won a super Bowl. That was a team. I don't know what's happened over these past seventy seven years. This has been bad, but this, this team currently is awful. With Daniel Jones as you're leading rusher and it's not close. That's not good. And

that's a product. That's a product that's a product of the fact that he's you know, he doesn't have time back there and he does, he'll take off and and you know, not trust his reads at times, and turnovers are problem. That's where I think they have an opportunity because I'm I disagree a little bit. I've got to see the Cowboys defense, no matter who they're playing, trust, trust their assignments, and do their jobs correct down to down because I'm you know, I'm kind of over though

they're talented and they'll get back to it. We have to see it field. We haven't seen it for four weeks. So, but that being said, Daniel Jones has I think sixteen starts and he's got like seventeen picks and he's put the ball in the ground like twenty something times. They finally maybe the Cowboys can get some takeaways and maybe that's gonna help the Cowboys offense if they can also themselves take care of the football. R Rob what what what Isaiah is doing? It is like chappetto. He is

puppet master and us he knows. Don't don't let Isaiah do us like this today it's Wednesday. No, we're gonna have a good show. And we know and you know, and you know clearly this is fun. I know. Hey. One thing that people know about me is I'm always gonn keep it one hundred. I know that's okay. If you if the Giants are playing at one hundred percent, yeah, and the Cowboys are playing at one hundred percent in you guys's heart, what happens in that matchup? If they're

playing at full steam ahead? What happens in that matchup? Cowboys win by more than Giant Cowboys win by multiple scores. They haven't done that. They haven't done that they never don't have any proof that they can't. You don't have any proof that they can do that. And what's been happening on our side. You're saying talent on the other side assignment for us, and it's been alignment and assignment

that's been getting us beat. If we go up there in our defensive events are stretching up the field and not keeping contained or getting beat, don't contain. If guys in the secondary that are being sent on these blitzers are not getting home, we will lose. It's just the truth of it. And it doesn't matter how talented or less talented a team is. These are NFL players that

still know how to do their job. And so if we're not defensively going to play within the confines of what Mike Nolan is trying, what he's trying to convey to this defense, it doesn't matter who you play, Isaiah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't happen. And hey, I do

agree with you our majority of what you just said. However, the areas in which the cowboy you guys have I've been dragging our defense all year right absolutely so that the areas in which our defense have struggled have been in two areas run defense right, run defense, which this team can't rush, just facts, they just can't rush right. And then are getting beat on routes which they don't have the personnel to beat us over the top on routes.

So where we have had a disadvantage over these first four games, we now have the advantage just purely by walking out there and lining up, just simply by lining up. Now they they they still have to execute. I'm not

taking that away. They have not done that, but I'm relying on their ability that to one have better personnel, which we do, and two actually have a little bit of manhood and say, guess what, We're not going to allow this team to come in here and beat us, especially our old Our old head coach almost called him oc he was my old head coach. And I think there's something to it in that regard to I mean, you want to beat that guy on the other side of you, And the talent level is obviously much higher

in Dallas than it is in New York. But I think whenever it comes down to this matchup, you've got to take care of the defensive side of the football. I think Anthony Brown will add a confidence level. We talked about when it was the last time that this defense really looked confident, When was this de doing their

job the right way. I think Anthony Brown takes it care of one of the rest of the eleven because he's I think better than really any of the other corners maybe besides Treyvon Diggs that you have out there, and just having him and put it back into the lineup is going to help out a little bit. But we do need to take our second break. When we come back, we're gonna give our grades first quarter grades for the offensive line and the defensive line. We started

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home or cheering in the stands. With lenses, you'll see every exciting playbook an appointment at your local or experts and find the perfect or lenses for you. See more, Do more, and guys. We started this segment yesterday and talking about the offensive grades for the running game in the passing game through the first four weeks of the season, grading things by quarters. In terms of this set Alice Cowboys football team, we want to go to the trenches

today where things might differ a little bit. There's been a lot of storylines through the first four weeks of the season in terms of the in terms of the overall trench play on both sides of the football. But let's start offensively on the offensive line. Grade out the offensive line once again from an A plus to an F minus scale, and Isaiah will start with you on this one. B plus no, get out of here. Get where's the apple? Are you serious? Okay? B plus? Why

but it B plus? Where's the run game? We're know we're known for for having a run game. Where's it at? We had? We we haven't had it? Right? So throwing the ball yet they've had they've passed block awesome, that's one half of your job, right, But the core of the heart, the character of this team is running the ball.

We have not been able to do that. You have one of arguably one of the best running backs in the game behind you, and you and you, and you only get what ninety yards rushing with him over two weeks? Heck with that? Wait? Wait wait did you say D plus A EP or B B plus B B B B that's the way. That's a pretty damn good grade. Actually, that's good. Your your explanations making it sound like a D is what we're saying here. Now, it's B plus, it's a. It's a B plus. They've been they've been

passed blocking. You don't. You don't throw for this many yards unless they do a heck of a job pass blocking. And they face some really good defensive linementum so front sevens over their first four weeks. So they've done a heck of a job in that regard. But they only get they get it. They don't. They don't get anywhere near A for me on that regard because they have a run block. So they have to figure that out.

So they get they gotta beat. They're gonna be. They're passing, they're passing, but if they drop any more, they don't pass. In a graduate program. Wow, now we're in graduates first quarter of the season. All right, heck, that's so confusing. Let's just happened. I don't know, Okay, Yeah, so that's A. That's a pretty good grade, Like I was not expecting that. Pretty good for for a line that we've been bragging about for years missing, that's missing multiple starters. Yeah, B plus,

B plus. Yeah, Well, I'm gonna look. I graded to the running game as a C minus yesterday and so I'm gonna pass that to the offensive line as well as a C minus. We hadn't been able to get any rhythm in the running game and a positive yardage in the running game, And like you said, I said, and I have to look at that and take some real consideration to the fact that they have been doing a pretty dog on good job in past protecting but

and run and run we have nothing. And so with this, with the shuffle of offensive linemen and the job that we've been able to do just over the last couple of weeks, I gotta go see minus, I'm a little bit in between you guys. I'll go be because I think, yeah, there's when dak is thrown one hundred and fifteen pass attempts with a compromised offensive line, and he's they've pretty much kept him upright for the last two games. I think that's pretty good. But at the same time, you're right,

they haven't. They haven't and it's their own fault. They haven't established the balance they want to establish so in the run game. So I think they're somewhere in between. I think it's been decent, especially dealing with the injuries they've had, but it's not what they needed to be, and it's not where they expect to be, even with

hiring being back. So yeah, and I kind of agree with you on that one, Rob, specifically based on the fact that whenever you're whenever you're looking at your report card, you don't really start getting those those progress reports and those bubble guts until you get around like the seventy eight, seventy seven mark eighty one, eighty two. You're feeling pretty good about where you're at. I'm still get a little bit of the bubble guts when I talk about this

offensive line. So I'm gonna say a C plus in the regard of plus, haven't necessarily had you haven't necessarily had the running game that you want to. You've had these injuries, sure, but that should easily put you from a C plus through the first quarter of this season. Make me get you back to a B plus where Isaiah is by the time the next report card comes around, and then maybe, well we'll talk about getting you to an A in the third segment of the year. But

spoil man, now we spoil. Well. We got made fun of yesterday for having too higher grades over here, Isaiah. We were saying, yeah, well, hey, yeah, who got the apple this morning? I left, Yeah, I left my apples downstairs. I was gonna bring some. Actually, they have faced a lot of uphill battles and they've done a heck of a job with what they've had to work with in comparison to what this offensive line has been in the past. So they've done a heck of a job for the

guys that they for them to be. You know, Phil, hats off to you for playing you know, we're playing all these guys and moving them around and finding a

way to keep your quarterback up right. They've protected the most the most valuable asset on their team, and as Dak Prescott, I'm not gonna lie if if we were grading coaching jobs on this through the first quarter of the season, I think Philman would be right up there in terms of the coaching job that he's done in order to fix up this offensive line and get it to not only where it's serviceable, but is hopefully ascending throughout the rest of the season once you get tiring

back for multiple weeks at a time. And then, of course, with Nillill Collins, hopefully they stick with Brandon night Over at the right tackle spot and you're feeling better about yourself here in the second quarter of a season. Okay, now here for the fun part. I want to see how low these grades can go, because Isaiah might have of first failing F grade here on the defensive line switching sides of the football. We'll let Isaiah go last. But heck who you got for the defensive line? A

plus through F minus grade? Yeah, I'm look, we can't give an end for income, you know, we can't do that. It's it's it's gonna have to be an F. It's got to be an F. These look when you turn on the if it's just go from week one all the way through week four and it's a bit, it's it's horrible, and these guys are just getting beat And if you have gap assignment and you're just getting de boled out of your gap and guys getting blocked together reached,

it's just ugly. And we talked about it now, and I posed the question to Isaiah about just drills and where the competition is in practice, just to see why guys are are getting man handled like this at the line of scrimmage. It's embarrassing. So there's no other grade to give the defensive line. Other than the F. I'm sure they give themselves an F. I'm not gonna go

quite that bad. I'm gonna give him a D because I think I think Aldon Smith raises it a little bit in terms of what he's been able to do. First four games back five years gone. Uh, it wasn't good for anybody against the Browns. But he's giving him some some life upfront overall. But yeah, I mean, what what happened up front against the Browns? Um, you just can't it just can't happen. You know, they got dominated

up front. We saw it in the running game, we saw it in the play action, and and it gives me concern going forward no matter who they're playing, whether it's the Giants or anybody. So I don't think de Marcus Lawrence has been a one hundred percent. I think he looked better in this game. But it's not good enough for everybody overall, as he said himself, So I'll go I'll go D. Yeah, I think I would go D minus getting apples D minus. No, it's not he's not getting apples. That D is is? I say, you're

I know I can feel it. I can feel that you're about you must receive some apples. I feel it right now. The B plus. I mean, have you seen Alden Smith? No, no, no, no, this is a D minus job you straight up I like it. I like it. You haven't played well at all. The only reason I'm not giving it an F is Aldon Smith. He's been the one bright spot. If he's not there, this is an F at the straightforward F failure. We need to re not restructure, but we need to rethink the way

that we play defensive line. I think this is a team that also are a part of the team that could turn things around as well. But right now it's sitting at a D minus right tinkering on the edge of an F. And I'm not afraid to do that in quarter two if they keep it up as well. So Rob and Kyle, you guys both got apples today. I knew Kyle was gonna gonna give him a D. But Rob, Rob, you give him that much credit. Rob,

I'm keeping it real. Yes, Yes, a D a good grade like I didn't have these and fel good about it. D D means that you were sixty percent efficient, okay, D. I think I look at D and being like that sucks. Rob, Rob you kept Rob, You kept it real. Don't don't, Rob, you kept it real? Just am I wrong for saying for thinking that D is from sixty to sixty nine point nine percent? Am I wrong? Am I thinking? No? Okay?

So so Rob and Kyle, you guys are saying that theory somewhere between sixty to sixty nine percent efficient all this defensive front. Sure, sure, yes that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yes, I would say that. Heck heck I'm with you. Heck heck I'm with you. Okay, At all these snaps these guys have played, they are not grading out at sixty percent. Sorry, not happening. So if we're going by the book, these

guys are F minus minus minus. Yeah, if that's the thing, whatever that is, like, whatever that is created F minus. These guys have not had a presence. There's not one offensive line in this league that respects them. And for that reason, you get an F minus and hopefully, but they're going to dominate Sunday. They don't. Yeah, they're gonna dominate this on it because they have that, because because

they have the talent to be a plus. Right, it's it's it's it's a light right, So there's a light switch. So right now, the light switch is off these guys because easily walk in the locker room today and flick that dog on light on and say, guess what, I'm a man. I'm not gonna be disrespected by another man. I'm gonna go out here and play ball to the wall. But they haven't done that so far. But they can, right, they absolutely can. The New York Giants offensive line can't.

They they're light. They just they have no power. They didn't pay the bill right, They can't flick it on the offer at all, Right, but our defensive line can. So to date they are are f like all the way F capital f change, all the funt it talisize it underlining bold. They've been at F and that because of that, they know that, like Heck said, they know that they play like that. So wake up, go play some ball and get a dog on a this week.

Get your confidence back, fellas. Yeah, it's got to be about it's got to be about pride because they know that everywhere if they can't even turn on the television without you know, every national media outlets saying that they're the laughing stock of the NFL. So this guy, this has to be about pride. And you just go through the names of the guys that we have. These are besides from Tristan Hill, most of these guys have been in the league for a pretty good while and that's

you know, look their reputations in their pride. A lot of these guys, man, they don't want to have that stepped on, and they've been getting a beating in the media. It's a veteran laden group that is about underwhelming. I mean, that's that's the plane and simple, cut and dry way of putting it. They have been underwhelming and right on tinkering on the edge of a failing grade overall, but

none of it has been good. Hopefully that life switch turns on this weekend and we'll talk about the other side of the football tomorrow in terms of the Cowboys offense in the Giants defense, which is probably a much more entertaining matchup than the one we talked about today throughout the course of our last forty five minutes. But we'll also hit the linebackers in secondary grades for the start of the season tomorrow to wrap things up on

our Thursday edition. But that's gonna do it here for Wednesday on Talking cow Special thanks to Chris Beam in the backbuff for Hector Harrison, Rob Phillips and Isaiah stand Back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long, thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow. I'm Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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