Talkin' Cowboys: Who Will Shine In SF?

We've got one more show this week and before the Cowboys finally get a preseason game in, let's see what all these practices are paying off for Levin practices in. Got one more in yesterday and they're heading out San Francisco to day, and so are we. Rob Phillips, Mickey's bag, Nola, Brian brought us a glorious morning here at Oxnard. Is there any other morning? Well, the sun was shining this morning. Ye six o'clock. It's shining through those trees behind us. Yeah,

it's always glorious. That lights up the practice field. Let's not fool ourselves. Cannot beat it. Did you bring your bike out here? This you did? Yeah? I've gotten away once so far, but we got a few days left. Maybe on Sunday when we get back. After we get back, if I'm not like sleeping all day, yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a long time. As figure you're

gonna get back. Well, if the game is over at nine thirty Pacific, we staying right for an hour and a half generally, and then what about another five hours back? So yeah, we're hopping the broad at sled hopping the sled and head we head. I'm I'm leaving tomorrow tomorrow morning, and like we talked about, so i'll be back. We'll be a fight in the morning. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. It'd be good. It'll be good. So what time do

you say the game was over? I think the game the game starts at six, specifics be done by nine, so our bus should leave by ten. Look at think you already kind of planned his exit. You got it ready on the bus five hours. Yeah, yeah, it'll be fine before that though, Before that, we got some football to watch. We do have some football to watch, you guys clean anything from yesterday's practice or um, you know, the cards stuff, anything about what you might see on

on Saturday. I don't know what. My one of my favorite practices is is when they do that walk through, the walkthrough in the afternoon, situational, situational one. I love situational football, and so I know this is it's kind of it's what they do on Saturdays before the games, and we never get to see that. So you get to see a different side of the coaching staff and how they line guys up and how they go through situations of whether it's the into the half, into the

game game, you know, coach those guys up. Hey, what are you supposed to do? What are you supposed to do? I thought that was really good yesterday with Jason Garrett going through each individual player on the on the on the final play of the game type thing, a jump ball tail mary, whatever you want to call it, and he going with going through with each player and Okay, what's your job, what's your job? What's your job? You know?

And it's funny because the veteran guys can just snap it off and then they do the twos and then you're thinking, Okay, this is where disaster potentially get happened in this game. Cody, do you tipp it? Are you gonna tip it? Cody? Are you gonna tip it? And he'd already told him I'm supposed to catch him, so he's trying to trip him up, and the kids started

doubting himself, like what are he was supposed to do? Yeah, So I thought that was really cool that they go through all that, how to get into the hurry hurry field, goals into the game, pitching it around, how to set up blockers, get him to the sidelines, you know. I mean that that to me is that part of the game.

And when you see it actually happened when you see a Caliver Stanford and they're pitching the ball all over the place in that game they score to win, or what happened in New England that the New England Miami game last year was a pitch it around and win. The band's out on the field exactly. So I mean that's the kind of stuff that I really like to watch with practice well, and there's there's no music, there's no fans. We can't write about it, but but it's

you can really hear them teaching out. Yeah. Actually is really good. It's an environment that we don't normally get to see. Absolutely, and that's what I like about it is because it is the actual I can't remember I can't tell you how many times watching like Parcels do this. And then we go back in the Monday night game against the Giants where Billy Kindiff, I think we kicked six field goals or something like that to win that game. Mickey was something like that. But they had to get that.

They had to get Yeah, they had that last pass off in order to get him a chance to kick the field. And that's stuff that Parcels used to work on all the time. Or killing the clock, throwing the ball all the way, you know, thought as high as you can and throw it out of bounce to run the clock out. You know, those are situations that you know, you get into a game and fans are like going, well why do they blow that? But that's stuff they

practice and I got something out of that. I think that we got that these guys are gonna play for They're gonna play. They're gonna play some guys. I mean, this is not gonna be one of those things like last night I was watching the early of the the Chargers uh Arizona game. Philip Rivers is not the quarterback, you know, and that kind of stuff. So I think you're gonna see the first teamers for at least the series. At least the series. Yeah, so that's good because that's

the way they kind of practiced it. So they sure did. Sure to see. Yeah, I remember the first time Parcels when we were in San Antonio. He was practicing h ending the game by throwing the ball high and out of Barty and so port Quincy Carter was doing it, and the fans all started booing like he was so far off, he's missing the target badly there, But no, it's no, it was. It was good and I enjoyed the uh. And so Jason doesn't just do it to

do it. He was a pready fired up. He was adamant of He had a sheet the the hell Mary on what each guy offense and defense was supposed to do. How you're supposed to block out, which way you're supposed to face. Hey, if you're blocking out in basketball, which way you're facing are facing the goal or you're facing

the guy? No, you're facing the goal. And so yeah, that was he had a he had a whole sheet of things, you know, he putting him at a certain yard markers at certain you know, and and and saying okay, here's the situation. You got seven seconds left, we need three more yards five seconds left. Okay, that's what you have to do. Okay, made they made a field goal. You know, I mean, all kinds of things were going through.

And again I appreciate, I appreciate the back and forth with football that way, the strategy, how to kill a game, how to run the last four minutes off the off the clock to win a game. You know, all those things are just fascinating to me. The way coaches do

get to work out. And we got to see that a little bit, yes, and and hopefully we'll get to see some of that stuff play out where he could use that as a teaching moment in some of these preseason games as well, where if it works, great, If it doesn't work, then you could It doesn't cost you

anything major, but you learn from it. And then when they had the pads on in the morning practice, they did some similar stuff, meaning we got the ball at the defense was twenty five yard line, you gotta go in, right, you got it at the ten yard line, you gotta go in, play it out, kick a field goal if right, if you if you don't, or you got you got a punt or coming out from the one yard. Yeah, you got the ball right inside your own one Yeah, what do you do? So that was good. That was

that was that was good stuff. But I think the if if we can use how they practice as the barometer for who's gonna play on Saturday against the Niners. I think those first teamers are going to go. And last year they did. I think it was like eight or ten snaps last year, right at ten plays. So take Yeah, it'd be good to see Travis Frederick out there. Absolutely, they let him go to get back in a game first time in the year. Uh, the backup quarterbacks get to play in a game for the first time in

a year. Think about that. You know, those poor guys, and I understand the plight of the backup quarterback, but they don't get to play. They go a whole year without playing a football game, and then everybody expecting to come out and act like, oh, well, they're polished. You know, it's difficult. Mental reps are great, but until you get out there and see the confusion in front of you,

it's not easy. And you know, they don't get any snaps basically in practice other than the practice squad scout team. So yeah, this will be good. Cooper Rush is pretty good in that game last year, that San Francisco preseason opener. I think his quarterback rating was like ninety seven, did a pretty good job, had a touchdown pass. How is Travis Frederick better yesterday? Yeah? You know, with Travis Frederick, I kind of say this is the way of him

reteaching himself how to play football. It's it's funny to say at all pro we'd have to reteach himself. But there were things yesterday. He is he's always so mentally sharp and what's going on in front of him, but he's he's found back to where he's able to position himself when he's uncovered, meaning he has nobody in front of him, and all of a sudden they read double twist in front and now guys are sorting and passing

and all that. And for Prescott to get the ball out, he picked the right side to give Dak the best avenue to get the ball out. He took the right guy to on the on the twist stunt. There he got Door's armstrong coming all the way around, and Travis was sitting wait and wait and wait and boom, he's over there now firm pocket balls where it needs to be. That was to play excusing, it was to it was to uh, it was to play coming off the goal line here, and it was to Tavon Austin where he

had to dive and catch the ball. But that's the kind of stuff. You know, if Travis goes the other way, maybe that ball doesn't get off and stuff like that. So but you're seeing that smart Travis Frederick that step up, be that physical guy and do the things that we've seen him do in games. I like what I just think he's I think he's getting a better feel, getting himself back to like, Okay, I used to do this, I used to do this, I used to do this,

and he's having a little success doing that. So hopefully in the game he'll have a little bit more of an opportunity and we'll see on the tape that those ten plays of him going out there and helping on those on those double team blocks, helping on the scoop blocks, getting the second level, maybe sneaking out on a screen, you know, those kinds of things that we've always grown very accustomed to seeing Travis Frederick be able to do.

He had a better feel for where he had to go, especially about you know, rarely does the center have one on one rocks, but so you got to help out right, and when they were blitzing, he had a better feel for sure to help and who was going to pick up the blitz sure way yep. So yeah, that was

a yeah. Anything that Travis Frederick doesn't look like he's in a revolving door, he's a good thing because he plays He plays with such with such balance, and then you watch him in athletic and it's it's like it's kind of coming back to him a little bit. Okay, I do this, this is what I used to do, This is how I handle it. So a game situation

will be good for him. It really will be, because at first he was like he looked like he snapped the ball gets up and I saw all this stuff coming at him, and it it was like, yeah, where do I go? You ever seen a punching bag with sand in the bottom of it and it kind of hit it and it kind of moves it kind of. It's

just it doesn't look very stable. He didn't look very stable as first couple of days, but the stability is coming back to his game and I think that's important well, and they always say when you're coming back off an injury, this was an illness. The illness. Yes, football movements are

different than conditioning and training and things like that. It's one thing to be in the gym or out there running and being back in condition, but to actually be on the field and doing what you're required to do at your position, the pace of it, the speed of it, that's a different that's a different animal. I think he plays one of the most difficult positions for an offensive lineman.

I think there's talented left tackles that comes natural to them, but I think centered the fact that you have to make calls a just snap block, help whatever. I mean, there's so many things that happen in a sequence of a play that a center has to deal with. Left tackles, right tackles. Cards generally just kind of deal with their man,

deal with their man, deal with their man. Center. There's so many other moving parts that's involved, and he's one of the best of the league that that's ever done this as far as how he's played, and that's one reason you know he he's done a little bit of the one on one stuff, but he's kind of said at the center position. It's not really that necessary for me to get in there and have worked around all that kind of stuff because it's not necessary. I'm not

really man on man every play with a guy. Yeah, that might be how Travis Frederick excuse me, how Zach Martin got a little dinged up with the back, you know, having a sit down on a guy and all. You know, yeah, it happens. It happens. Unfortunate though it be nice to have. Again, I keep going back to the to the Zach Martin's and then and then also to the Connor McGovern's. You know, I mean, I just wish Connor McGovern. This is I'm

just beating a dead horse. I'm sorry, and I don't mean to say dead apologize, but but but it's it's just the thing with this, with this, this opportunity. Even if Connor McGovern was doing good bad, at least he's getting the work. He's getting the work, and he would have gotten more work. Yeah, and and I you know, no no offense to your Juwan Bushell, Betty, you know, Baty, no offense to you. You know you're coming in here, You're gonna have to play a football game. Hopefully he

gets nobody hurt. But I mean that that should have been Connor McGovern's spot. Yeah, that should have been him out there playing every snap and playing the whole game and getting tough and going in there working with Joe Looney, I mean, Joe Looney's a backup guy, and Adam Redman and work with those other backup guys that you normally. Maybe you might find yourself in a game with those guys,

you know. And that's that's kind of where I because it might be, like Mickey's talking about, he might not if he doesn't do anything this summer, he's not gonna get a rep until I mean a real rep until possibly twenty twenty, if you think about it. Because if he doesn't, I mean, if he goes on Sagoes on IR or something like that, or it doesn't, it sounds like when we get back to the Star he's gonna practice. He might be able to get going there we go.

So that's a that's good, that's the case. Did him good for him? You would keep him on the fifty three there as long as he can do it and remain healthy. Yeah, Okay, As we looked to Saturday night, I was just thinking about this this morning. Tony Pollard's a fourth round pick. Yeah, but he's gonna have host Dak Prescott. That's right, right, Yeah, they have So I

was no, Murray was third, he was third. He's gonna have first round spotlight on him Saturday night because of the guy who's not here, right, and this in the position that he's gonna play on Saturday night for however many snaps it's gonna be. Did did that? Did Number twenty one not play one snap in the preseason last year? Not one? Yeah? No, because here was some offensive line

injuries right the play the rehearsal game. Yeah, I don't think that he gets played either, because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. See, that's that's funny because to me, you know, everybody's like we talked about and see if we talked about it, maybe that's why Stephen Jones, Mickey and Rob are telling us that we get back to Dallas, then maybe these contracts will start to start to figure things out.

Mickey's right about the guy missing money and all that that that's that's a big I don't I've said it all along. The guy's got money. But Mickey's right, you leave six figures on the table every Tuesday. That that adds up. That adds up. I don't care how much money you have. That adds up. But you know, maybe that's maybe that's what we're waiting for. The fact that he had didn't take I didn't know that he had not taken any snaps in the preseason, and and he

probably didn't take any. He made up four during the season. I don't know. I'm not sure how many he took in twenty sixteen because I remember he was dealing with a hams hamstring, that's right. It was a lot of like we should never remember when he got off to his flow start. Everybody, Wow, he's not seeing things. His pace is too fast. He's not waiting. Um, so as

long as he's working out, yeah you really. Yeah, If you total up his total preseason carries for three seasons and now four pbably count hi on your right hit, probably it's not a lot. Because his rookie year he had a little something that the Rams yeah Seattle, Yeah, and those vets in Seattle kind of knocked him around a little bit, and that was all the doing work he got, you know, I know he knocked them around. Okay, Mickey. Don't you remember him hitting the safety? It was a

little both well. He flattened that guy, Cam Chancellor. Yeah, you know I think that to me, this is I to your point. I think you're talking about Pollard. Yes, and and I'm I'm excited about Pollard. I'm excited about what he's shown out here with the opportunities that he's had. He he doesn't look like to me that the game is too big for him. They've thrown him in first

team reps. And I don't hear now maybe at night when they're in the meetings and stuff that, uh, you know, they're Gary Brown's having Well, I gotta correct you here, I gotta correct you here. I gotta correct me. But I don't see correction on the field. No, I don't see the I don't see Tony. No, Tony, you know, I don't see that with him. And a lot of times you'll see guys get corrected on the field that are young guys because they don't I mean, uh. Sanjay

Law brought it up yesterday about Cedric Wilson. We've seen Cedric Wilson player. He says. The great thing about Cedric Wilson is and I don't mean to digress into something different, but Cedric Wilson is he said, Cedric Wilson might make a mistake one day, but he will not make the

same mistake the next day. And maybe that's what we You know Pollard, he hasn't made those mistakes or he either either he gets corrected and doesn't make him again and done a better job in blitz pick up two, like knowing where to go and understanding, because I'm sure he didn't have to do that him, not at all. You know, how many times do they blitz in college anyway with the five wide all the time Central Florida

and that that conference they will they will. Uh. And the other thing with Pollard is as much as they put on his plate too offensively special teams. To me, that's an indication that the coaching staff says, this is a sharp kid. Yeah, sharp rookie who can handle some of this stuff from a from a mental standpoint. Early on, yep, absolutely, all right, let's take our first break when we come back.

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something to do. Welcome to the twenty nineteen. There you go. I'm the same way. Good about Hey, check it out. So get to the elephant in the room. Oh go ahead? Oh is that why you were grumpy the first segment because you thought we should get to the news quicker? I thought we buried the lead. Yes, I don't think we did, because it is what it is. Everybody knows he's suspended to this. Yeah, but we gotta deal with it. Well, let's deal with it now. Mickey's gonna deal with it

for two minutes. He's gonna yell at the commissioner and then we'll move on. See, yeah, I don't, I don't. I needed to wake up before you didn't need didn't mean mickey violence to start your show? Did you not think this thing was shaky? Mickey, anything to do? I told you this a long time ago. If you put your fate in that commissioner's hands or that office's hands, something bad is going to happen to you every single time.

Go ahead, because Robert Robert Quinn suspension. If we shut it up, then all right, ahead two games for violating the NFL's policy on performance enhancing substance, which normally is an automatic four games pensioned by the way, right, and so it's go ahead. Yeah, And his agent right after the announcement sent out a very like, within a minute, emphatic defense of his client. So evidently they didn't believe all of it. They must have believed some of it.

So when he was in high school, he had surgery to remove a benign tumor from his head, from his brain, and later on he started having seizures. Yeah, so he was taken medication to help prevent the seizures. A a a matter of fact, it said he had one. I think they were in Denver playing the game and he had one. They got rushed to the hospital. I think it was Denver anyway. So he's taken this medication. So the medication

is approved. But when and again, the Cowboys traded for him on March twenty all right, he had the test that showed a positive for pro benicid on April second, So the Cowboys have no idea when they traded for him that this was going to happen. But everybody out there is trying to make an issue out of the Cowboys. Oh, here they go again. They got these characters and they

can't prevent themselves from being suspended. And it's like they didn't know nothing about this when they traded for him, and the medical people wouldn't have known nothing about this because the test was April second, So he didn't just gobble down some of this stuff. Okay, backstory. Pro Probenecid is a drug for medicine to help control gout in people. And gout it hurts, and what happens is it lowers

your uric acid from your kidneys. Take medicine for this every day every day because because it's the same thing that applies for kidney stones. And in the agent's explanation, uh, kieran, I forgot a sean h. He said that their medical expert that helped him investigate this said that that drug was used in the eighties and nineties to mask steroid yes, right, and that that the doctor h John Lombardo, who's the NFL doctor, basically pointed out that he hasn't seen that

drug show up to mask steroids in quite some time. Sure, so, their investigation of their medical guys said that they found that the prescription that was filled at wherever the prescription was filled right before they filled that their history of of prescriptions filled showed that the prescription right before his for his seizures was for pro benecid, and they saying, okay, it must attainted that. Now somebody told me, well, how

many times have you got a pertained prescription? Well, I don't know, because I probably didn't have to pee in a cup two days later, No question, right, you don't know. And the amount was so minuscule that their argument was

it should have been a false positive, right that. And the analogy their medical guy gave them when they argued during the appeal was that if you had a thousand kernels of rice, the amount that showed up positive for probenecid was one kernel, So it was almost like if you were taking it right for a purpose, then you would have more than that. And if you were taking it, they should have been able to prove that he was getting a prescription for it right, because it's it's not

an over the counter drug. You have to have a prescription for it. And their point was, no where in our history does he have a prescription for this. Yet the NFL kind of believed it, but not the entire way because it should have been a four game suspension for violation of performance enhanching drugs. Well, they gave him a two game suspension. Now he would have been ready

for the start of the season, I'm told now. What he did was he fractured the third and fourth metacarpal on the back of his hand, his left hand, so the little bones right here, and they do surgery that they put a pin in there because the bone go feel it, your bone is there is real thin, so they can't set it in a cast, so they put a pin in there, surgically repaired, and they felt like he would be ready to go at the start of

the season. Now, the difficult thing for him compared to when DeMarco Murray had it is Murray doesn't have to grab anybody. He just got to hold the ball. So remember he came back within a week or two as soon as the suitures healed. And so with him with Quinn, he's got to use his hands when he rushes and that that so the padding there's not going to do anything for him. So but they still felt like he

would be ready, except for now. It's a two game, uh suspension, And that's why that's why Jason said, we support Robert Quinn, right, they understand it and we trust him, is what he said too. The Cowboys medical staff understands it. But when the thing comes out right away, it's okay, this is the seventeenth suspension. Why was why was that? Why was that an issue with this? This didn't fit this, This didn't fit Rolando McClain, It didn't fit Hardy or

Randy Gregory. Yeah, and Jason said that in a very polite way. Every circumstance is different. You can't lump them all together. But and then and then why and then and then the stories in the last sentence. And one of the things I read is who's going to be next? Yeah, And it's like, it's not fair to Quinn in the first place, right, And it's not fair to the organization that had no idea any this is going on when they traded for him, because it hadn't happened yet. And

that's what kind of irritates me. I just I don't care if you if you criticize him, fine if you want to be critical, critical, but get it right, get it right. I'm done. I knew we were going to get to the bottom of that store. I knew it. Soapbox Mick. So that's the other side of that pancake is now who takes over a defensive end? And that's a question. And by the way, that's the first question I pulled off periscope today. Let Zeke at let Zeke.

I guess that's what Zeke's twitting you? Yeah? No, no, So what is it called periscoping? Pariscoping? Yeah? Okay, does Armstrong have a chance to start in week one? But that's Crawford, isn't it. Yeah? Isn't that Crawford over there? Well, unless taco time arrive, Taco time, it's been Taco time this week. Jason Garrett did say Tyron Crawford sounds like he could get back to practice when they get back home from Oxnard. He's been dealing with a hip, has

been on active pop remains on there right now. Um yeah, I think he's your starting end opposite Lawrence, right yeah, because I think see Pete also asking is all right, do you lose a starter in Quinn? Whereas Quinn to me, Quinn was gonna back up or come in on and then they were gonna kick Crawford inside on some nickel rush. That's clear passing situation. Yeah, that's I thought. I didn't think that Quinn was going to be the starter when

they brought him in. I thought he Now, I thought he would be the starter if something happen, if they didn't sign, if they didn't sign Lawrence, That's where I thought Quinn had a chance to start. I think they thought he was a starter. Okay, that's just me. No, No, if you ifrom what I heard what I said, If they think he's a startered then okay, now what does that do with Crawford? That's what I want to know.

I think he's playing in instead of tackled. But okay, is he the backup end or when does he play? Because if you're playing Quinn is the starter, when would you play Crawford? Would you play? Because Crawford to me is not He's not the past rushing. Yeah, if you're talking about first and second down, I wouldn't play. Yeah, but remember, udn't play the run. I mean, I remember what they did last year he played. He started the

first seven games at defensive tackle. When Malie Collins was trying to get no question, that's what I was saying. Then when they couldn't stop the run, yea, and it was obvious they couldn't stop the run, they kicked him out to right defensive end. Kind of settled things down over there, and then they rotated Randy Gregory and is the pass rusher. But by time we got to the end of the season, the playoffs, Gregory was starting. Speaking of Crawford, we out of the woods on a suspension

for him for a game. I it's another day. Yeah, who knows what the end. I was gonna say, Well, he didn't get charged, so that man, Yeah that's true. But you know what, so that whole thing, you know, he was entered into a diversion program right on his own right. Uh, there were no charges. And you guys have been the clubs, bars, befare, especially those beach ones in Florida had a lot. That is his first mistake. Yeah, those bouncers are not the most ethical people. And I'm

not casting the spursions. I didn't see it. I'm just saying the police didn't believe all that stuff. Right, have you seen bouncers? Mickey just called out every bouncer in South Florida. You don't think bouncers listen to this show. I hopefully, I hope they do. I hope they do. Just come, bouncers, Hey, anyway ahead, I'm sorry, I don't think. I don't think anything's going to happen. Okay, Right, the commissioner don't even have his hands full Foxburgh. There's still

a month till the season. He spending a guy for two games for some stupid test. But I mean, I'm telling you, anytime you put in your your livelihood in his hands and disaster and you said it, unless you're Tarik Hill, charges don't have to exist right to be under the personal pond personal conduct umbrella. Does he have his hands full with the guy in Foxborough. Every everyone, I don't need to take care of that first. That's difficult. We all wish kind of were that team. We'd be

in the super Bowl every year. Micky'd be like you'd you'd have covered fifty of the Super Bowls. Okay, anyway, so I'm gonna ask a question. I'm asking a question to the question back to the question why we kind of eased into this discussion. Now you gotta jump in. You did. And even if it's a belly fly and Mickey, we bury the lead on the show All Time High School Football, whether you name it. Anyway, we keep four running backs one fullback from which you we had to

early talk about. We didn't finish with Dooran's Armstrong. No, did you say you said he was not gonna start. No, I'm just saying, I'm taco time. You said taco time. But he's got to prove it is with it. Oh yeah, this is this is his time. I mean, oh no, I'm with you. He's got to step up. Otherwise Armstrong gets that job. But Armstrong is gonna be started in the preseason on the strong side. Yeah, he's playing left side, playing behind yeah. Yeah, And so for now, Okay, we

were going to the question was week one. No, we don't think he's starting week one. Lawrence is going to be ready to play. There we go. That's what I wanted to hear from you. I could probably play next week if they wanted him too. That's true too. Four running backs win fullback Rob Phillips, four running backs, Ums Webber showing you and that face saying I'm going three running backs and Jamay's because I guess you're only keeping

three tight ends. Most likely right third running back. We had this discussion right over there during practice tight end un running back. At this point, I'm saying, it's Zeke Pollard Morris. But Morris doesn't play a lot of special teams at all, So that's trying. I mean, that is something to think about. Not so Zeke's gonna be here. I'm expecting that. Yes, yes, because Mickey on the Football Mickey told you how much money he makes a week, So he's going to listen to the show and figure

out he needs to be here for that money. Zeke Pollard and Morris. If Zeke, if Zeke is here, is Morris here? That's what I'm saying. I kind of think it might could what about un That's what I'm thinking. What do you think Darius Jacksons? Jackson to me seems like he's kind of like they've given up on him. Yeah, he's he doesn't have snow tires on his car anymore. You know, he's he's driving in the snow without snow tires. It. But he'll probably probably make a play tomorrow night or two,

somebody will pick. But he started, he started off, was fine. He doesn't look bad. But I think what happened was without Zeke here. Yeah, It's like, okay, now we got an opportunity because we know Pollard's play right, right, and let's get him some exposure for all the different things he's gonna do while we have the opportunity. Yeah, and and let's see what he can handle. Yeah, I don't you know, I don't know that he's gonna wear him out in preseason. But I mean he is bigger than

you thought, isn't he? Yes? In the rookie camp, Yeah, because the Hawk was Oh, Mike Weber was the traditional back in college. Stand next to both of him, he's bigger. Who's the bigger man? Yeah? I just walked by him this morning after they finished their walkthrough and I was looking at him and I was like, who's that. I was thinking it was a defensive back or safety, and it was Pollard. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's he's he's a full six foot He's not Lance Dunbar. That was a

false narrative coming out of Memphis. Yeah, Lance Dunbar was my size. Yeah. No, you're right about about the offense that he played in more than maybe you know what they used him, yeah, or what he may be capable of at the next level. Yeah, So I think they just want to see a lot of him, But I want to see Jordan chun if he you know, you guys, you guys are right. They have a couple of good young backs. I'm just talking about I mean right now in terms of experience. Yeah, I mean, Morris is getting

second team. I just want to see him because anybody that can run for one hundred and ninety one yards in baton rouge, Nicky, you need to just shut up right now. Hey, I just you know he's but he's not wrong, Mickey, I know I saw every damn one of them. My gosh, congratulations Troy, you got a great victory. Hey,

Chris wants to five guys to watch. But I'm gonna tell Chris as we're talking right now, we got a thing called two to watch and everybody involved has got two guys that they're gonna watch for the game, and we're writing about that. So that's going up today, right, Yeah, And why don't we say that we can answer that question. No'll be on the other side. We have to talk about some guys. Okay, see fair, they're good, Fair about good.

We've already gotten done with another segment. We're almost there. You look it out. You went on like twenty seven minutes. Mine, no funny? Is there anybody? Is there anybody better to click? If you talk about going the power play Mickey or kill the power play? Mickey will kill a power play for you. I was on our play killing unit too. Yes, yeah, that's the thing. We get him to the penalty box for twenty minutes, him off, and he made up for it.

It's like a bull getting release, banging on the glass. Let me out there. That's a good commercial. But it is a good one. Wait, which one the what about? Hey Raff, you're bested? A lot of calls you better getting Verizon or something. I don't know. Whatever the make sure it's the right phone company. If you better your phone, you're missing a lot of calls. Smart. It's absolutely absolutely at and T Stadium. All right, let's take our final break.

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runs on you're missing some calls? Check your phone? Yeah exactly, Oh man, what else, you guy? What are they fired up about today? They are, uh this, the folks are pretty good about this. They're they're they're wanting to pay everybody. They they they're fans. They want to pay everybody. Uh uh, well both both Collins will play, right, We talked about that Lyle Collins and and Elite Collins, right should yeah, both for a little bit. Yeah yeah. Fans are also saying, hey, guys,

I'm watching Donovan Wilson and Mike Jackson. See we try to what do we call it? Two for the two to watch to watch? Yeah, I missed that up instantly. We tried to pick an offensive guy and a defensive guy. Yep, so we can kind of and then again check on Dallas Cowboys dot com because we'll have a hundred words reached guy. Kind of why we're gonna watch these guys, I think, and we don't select the same guys, so you get hyeah, eight different guys, eight different guys guys

to watch. Mickey. You'll have his column as well. Shots. What are you right about today? You're gonna go up to the the commissioner again today? Oh yeah, it's already written. Okay, there we go, Oh boy, here we go. Here we read Mickey's work, deven better than him hammering out a commissioner. No, I mean it's and it's also about you know, taco talcer year. Let's go oh, let me see it. I like it. I like it. No more expresso for you, they're saying Mickey by the way, he I could use

some Yeah you sure, kid? Uh what else? Rob Connor Williams, Connor Williams, y Yeah, Connor Williams is exactly Connor Williams was a question, how's Connor Williams looking as we h kind of meander our way through these practices. He looks big, he looks strong. It looks like he's setting better yeah for pass rush protection. Right, he's not quite yet a pro bowler. Tongue in cheek right there, shot at everybody. Well, no,

I mean it's he's improved. I'm not saying, you know, offensive lines don't have five pro bowlers across the front. Sometimes you just have to have a guy, right yeah, and a guy that's good that can can help you win. Yea. And I think he's getting to that level. I think he's much improved from last year. He looks the part, he looks stronger, he's bigger, and that'll help him and it will also help that Travis Fredericks next to him. Nothing against Joe Looney, But Travis Frederick next to you

makes you better? Well, you sounded really logical. Then I couldn't say anything about that. That's good stuff. I'm watching carry hydroant. Joe Thomas says, John, those are good. Joe Thomas is a guy. We don't talk about a lot, but I mean, everybody tells me that Joe Thomas could start if he was on another team. He has started

games in this league. No, no, I da Packers, but that people are telling me if Joe Heck is the linebacker coach Ben Bloom, if Joe Thomas was on another team, he could start for someone's scheme specific could you argue? And I can't go down the list and tell you that the linebacker group here at full strength is as good as anyone in the entire league. Well, he with him fourth, Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, and Cummington seems

to be doing better. Yeah. I had him kind of had a shovel full of dirt on Coving team because I was trying to get I was trying to get my uh. I was trying to get Luke Gifford on the team. You know, I was trying to can't you. I'm trying well that that's five. Yeah, You're I'm just I'm just thinking something's gonna happen there that maybe that always looks so good, And you know, I get so fired up about a guy then all of a sudden, I'm not yeah forgetting somebody. Yeah, there you go, Joe Thomas,

Shawn Lee, Luke, that Nate Hall. See the cow is it? It's Caro kiro kiro, I say kiro so yeah, I say it wrong a lot. He's hurt right now. See that's it. He was my pet cat guy coming out of Star and I jinked him. He was a guy that you know that was gonna come in here. He was gonna run, he was gonna sideline to sideline. He was gonna play in coverage a little bit. He was gonna be physical. He needs to get back on the

field to hear a good jinks that tell you about it. Yesterday, I think you guys were on you might have been doing your training camp lining camp live. So I'm walking down the sideline and you know how they were playing out and if he didn't make the first down, right, you kicked a field goal right, and uh, Brett Maher was hitting every one of them, and so some guy behind the fence yells at me. He goes, hey, Mick, what are you seeing out there? I said, boy, the

kickers really kicking. Oh Nolan. The next kick, he kicked it off the go the upright, and I walked back there and I go, so I jinxed him hut, and they all busted out laughing. I do it what I said it, I said. I shouldn't have said anything. He was He was good from twenty eight, forty twenty six, an extra point forty two and then yes, a forty eight yarder to quote unquote win the game. Yes, and with twelve seconds tram and he never his ball never goes to the left. It never does. And it went

to the left and hit the upright. Right. They went left in that blue white scrimmage. Yeah, it went and left. It almost hit our Yeah, were almost hit our station where we're over there doing the broadcast. It went left in Washington, Yeah, yeah, dunk uh double dunk. We keep talking about these young wide receivers. Periscope's interested in those guys. Yeah, let's see him and we're gonna Yeah. And that's the thing about it. And I like the fact that Cedric

Wilson's in the mix too. He is, Yeah, because he was kind of a loss for Guiden guy, and part of it's because he missed all last season. Right, He's not a burner down the field necessarily like some of these other like a guiding or or John Vay. Uh, He's just he's just a notice gets open. He gets open because he said he's an efficient route runner, like Brian said, Sanjay's told us he's gotten better than he's made more strides young guys that out yesterday. Yeah, he

was adamant about date. Says, hey, if there's one guy that's improved from last year to this year, it's Cedric Wilson. Yeah, absolutely about that. He can play inside. You see him line up in the slot, so he's got some versatility there. Yeah, he's he's one to I mean, I'm still I'm still a John Vey guy. I think he's got as much natural ability as any of these young guys were talking about though. That's why again, that's why Sanjay said that too. He's like, he's like, if you want to just talk.

He was talking about picking up and I don't think this was a slam. I think he's just saying it's just the mental side of things. And sometimes you say mental, you think, oh, he's a dumb a, but he's not a dumber. No, it's not. It's not that. Sometimes you get going and then you short circuit a little bit because you're thinking, Okay, I've gotta do this, I gotta do this, I gotta do this, And that happens to these young receivers. I get these young receivers a lot

of credit. I haven't seen him hit the wall yet. These guys are still running, they're still playing hard, getting better. They are getting better. You know, these guys might not hit the wall, but taking steps is Jalen Giton every kind of forgot about. Oh no, yeah, and Sanjay when he first got him, really really liked him and he started taking over the game. One of those sessions yesterday. Yeah,

I think we'll see Reggie Davis returning punts. I don't know that they have to send Randall Cobb out there, and he seems to have been the first one up whatever punting drill they were doing. So can you catch the ball? You know, don't Lanceolnorem me, Oh gosh, I don't need that to happen. How about how about a stop, get off the field, and all of a sudden you

fumble and give him the ball back in midfield. I don't need that to your point, though, Brian, Look how much faster Michael Gallup is playing out here than he did last year. I mean it's just, i mean, just how the speed and things slow down for you with a year in the system. And that's what these guys are fighting through right now, especially these undrafted guys. Yeah, but that but they're not hitting the rookie wall yet.

I'm just kind of noticed. I'm thinking, Okay, you know, he kind of feel like, Okay, these guys who cut themselves because they'll drop balls, you know. Uh the thing, Uh Johnson had a couple of drops in the Blue White. Yeah, but he tried to run with it. Be no, no, no, no, no, I know, I know, but that's I'm not giving a pass. But but yeah, but he's that He's caught everything that Reggie Davis has caught. Everything's been He's been really good too. Yeah.

The only thing Reggie Davis has dropped as the ball got punched out from behind after he caught it. That was that was our guy. Donovan Wilson punching that ball loose. Give me, uh, mick, two guys you're watching on set, one on offense, one on defense. Wow, I'm sticking with Chun Yeah, and then uh defensively, Uh just Taco, Yeah, this Taco count. As a young he realized that without Crawford and um DeMarcus Lawrence on the field, he's got

the most experience of anybody else. Twenty seven games. Hiders only played in twenty four right, so right, yeah, wow, because he missed an entire season. He got hurt and then missed part of that season and then got hurt, Uh, missed the next season. So he hadn't played that much. And Taco's got the most with twenty seven games of the guys that are practicing right, defensive defensive end. Okay, that's the entire line, you know, and and and uh you know they haven't done it yet, but the Joe

Jackson moving inside hasn't taken place yet. Yeah, but I'll be interested. Get ready, something that's gonna have We're gonna get one of these games where everybody they're having to play just tongues are hanging out, tongues are hanging in, and he's gonna have to go inside and he might not know what the hell he's doing, but he'll do it to the best of his abilia. He'll do all that. Cooper Rush and Luke Gifford were my two guys I'm

I'm watching. Yeah, I want to see Cooper. I want to see if Cooper Rush can carry some of the good things he's done on the field over to games. You talked about him last year having a decent game. Yeah, he needs to command the offense, move the team, finish some drives. He needs to lead the young guys. He needs to help the young guys. He's a veteran. Help the young guy running back, help the young guy lawfensive lineman, help the young guy receivers. Be a veteran out there

do these things. Are trying to not only get yourself evaluated, but everybody else. And then Luke Gifford on the other side, Yeah, playing with a busted up finger. You know, I want to see Luke Gifford probably being on six seven tackles, maybe that second half stopping a Ryan the line of scrimmage, Maybe the ball goes underneath to a back run over there and tackle. That's I don't need to see him missing any tackles in space or anything like that. Find a way to make this football team. I think he

can do it. I've got uh, Cedric Wilson and Joe Jackson because to me that I lump of them in kind of together, because they're two guys that have stood out more and more as we've been out. Yes, and so can they carry it and continue to ascend in this game. I think that'll be fun to watch for these two guys. You know, they need to give Cooper Rush as many snaps as they can, agree because if you're gonna divide them up and you only get half. These guys have not played in a game that last year.

Said that, right, Yep, you said. That's part of the job. So he's got a I know. But when you're a part of the kind of a young quarterback ascending, you gotta play. You can't assnd running the scout team, right, And that's all he did last year. I think he took six snaps and he handed the ball off every time at the end of that Jacksonville game. He's not thrown a pass now since preseason last year, preseason last in a game game. That's why these reps are so important.

On him. Yes, and so now you got to see him in the game. Give him to him, right if you're if you're trying to develop a backup, and he's your backup of the future, Well let's see. I wonder who's the who was the next guy in line in Philadelphia when Sutfield went down with the broken wrist. They've shuffled that thing around a little bit. Well, I'm not sure, so I wish. I'm a wonder if they've got to sign somebody out. They said they were gonna they were gonna, Wait,

they're out, Yeah, Doug Doug Peterson. Who to go to arladg or go to the Eagles? I don't know. I mean because they lost Sutfield was a guy that they were that they were really kind of talent. That's why they one of the reasons why they let U let the guy walk to Jacksonville that they felt foals. Yeah, they felt good enough about him. You know why Barclay's playing somewhere else now. He used to be there kind of their backup guy Buffalo. So yeah, I don't know who. Yeah,

Clayton Thorson. Yeah that's a kid from Northwestern Yeah. Yeah, the Northern Draft round from Northwestern, so he's next in line, next in line, Yeah, and they probably need to sign one to just get him through preseason. Well, we'll see, we'll see. Hopefully the Cowboys get through unscathed. No callahan, callahan, Okay, thank you, Mickey, and uh that's it for this week of Talking Cowboys. We'll be back at you Monday recapping Cowboys Niners. Enjoy your weekend, enjoy the game, and we'll

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