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We have lots to talk about to get ready for this Rams game that's going to be an early one noon on Sunday. Mickey says, everyone will be sleeping. But how are you guys doing today? Wide awake ready? Roll wide awake ready? And if we're ready, and if we weren't, Switzer woke us all up? Is that Barry Switzer? Why don't you tell us someone what he was doing? And I'm not sure what he was doing? Is he is? He is a great story. He was dressed up for something,

Yeah he was. He he had a meeting. I think he said he was trying to come get his passes from Rich and Rich had already said that the passes were a Norman and He's like, well, that's not doing me any good right now, So I'm gonna have to get me new pass New passes is what he wants. So he broke into a story from nineteen fifty eighth basketball story. Basketball story. It's like, that's amazing. Why do you remember all that stuff? He'll tell a story on

you right way. Have you ever real quick, I'm starting me to deill the show. Have you ever interviewed so? Did your Byron Nelson? Yeah? Did you? Did you ever tell you about the shot he hit the nineteen thirty five Headelphia at the Club ro This is two thousands there, twenty and twelve. I know, I'm sorry, I'm just but no, this is oh yeah, I wouldn't. Guys remember him. I remember his mother's saying, guys, remember, it's a crazy how

these guys their lives they remember. It's weird to be on a show with you guys, And and hear that consistently because you guys remember everything. I don't remember as much as Micky does, but I remember remember a few things. Nick's the king of like rand Nick was put on earth to remind me of how bad we were in those three years in the early two thousands, the leading rusher, and yeah, a bunch of guys tell me about how much the Cowboys have owned the Rams the past few

years that they have played them. They have. Yeah, I mean we talked about Proud Brian being there obviously switch from Saint Louis. Saint Louis, Los Angeles. Now that was the last time they lost to him two thousand and eight. I believe so famous on Brad Johnson game. When you were at you probably wrote a really good story about that, didn't you. The famous Rams Dude game. That's what pac Man said leading up. It's the Rams Dude, we got it. And then Brad Sham calls it the worst loss in

Cowboys history, at least to that point. That's what he said, because they had they won that game, they would have gone to the playoffs that year. That was playoffs. Jim Haslett's interim debut. I believe they were on they were they winless. I was going to say they were unwin unwinned. They were winless. English is hard on Fridays, that's right, and they go up there and spit the bit. Yeah

got I mean they got clawberd right. It was like thirty something to fourteen, pretty really bizarre game because Tony was hurt, but Tony was warming up before the game started, and you didn't know what was going to happen, and they were Saint Louis was bad in that game. Was someone who was a fifty fifty y? Yes? Could that be for this game with number fifty? Shaun Lee? I don't know if a coin on fifty fifty, I don't know. As Brad Johnson was about, oh for fifty. What do

you think about Sean Lee this week? Think Shaun Lee is gonna be playing though. I think we'll find out at ten thirty on Sunday. I was going to raise the arm and then I don't know if I could do it, but I think he's out Sun Lee. Everybody, I know it's Shaun Lee, but I think you have to think about the whole campaign. I think you have to think about the whole campaign and not just this one game. I think, and I can say I'm sorry

real quick. Yeah. And I know there's there's only sixteen of these, so I know, I know they're all important. All of them are must win. To me, I've never everybody says, oh, this is a must win game. They're all must win because just what Mickey said, you're one game short, you don't make the playoffs. They're all must win. He's facing he's facing a one and two count right now. I thought Jerry was how about that, yeah, one to

call him out. Jerry called him touch and go. It's not that serious, but he said he hopes he's go. But I thought to your point, he was pretty telling in that we're going to be quote very careful. Yeah. And again those hamstrings, they can become six weeks, a couple months if it's bad enough. We've seen it with these young corners that it keep nagging him, nagging him. So I mean, maybe he's not ready this week and

Packers or after the bye. We'll see. He did the same thing today or is doing the same thing today as he did yesterday. He went out there team stretch, then went off with Britt and start working outside on the chords. He's on the grass field that's wet, so he'll be he'll be limited. But I still say it comes down to if how he feels at ten thirty on Sunday morning. Yeah, Well, like to the stadium, keep an eye on him if he's out there. Warman. Oh,

she'll get there. She'll get there real early. Mickey and I are usually the first in the press box. Yeah, I save the seat next to him. We sit next to each other in games. If you guys are listening, the love never ends, okay, love never make sure she's watching, you know I am. Anyway, Shaun Lee, guys, he can still have a good season even if he misses a few games. Last year we saw that with Dez Brent. They waited until after the bye week to bring him back.

He had a Pro Bowl season. Sure, so I know that everyone's worried about, Oh, you know, the long run of it all, he can still make up for this if he's just resting this instead of what you're saying out and hurts himself. Yeah, this to me is with with a with a bye week coming up after the Green Bay game. You know. To me, it's like, if you get through this week and then you find a way. I just think personnel wise, Yeah, you don't want to

play without Shaun Lee. Mickey said it brilliant brilliantly yesterday. I mean, you don't want to play without him, nobody does. But if you think about how you could play in this game with your with your dime personnel and you only need the two linebackers. You know, you could you could maybe with with with the Rant and Smith, you could work some things around where these defensive backs can

can go out and help you a little bit. Well, remember Damian Wilson was working on the second like Nickel package, Dime package and training camp, so they don't have to just rely totally. Boy, we're sugarcoating this a lot. I know. Well, but I mean they have bodies to do it. They do. They're just not Yeah, that's that's fair, and not Shaun Lee's head. I want, yeah, I want. I want Shaun Lee on the field against Todd Gurley and against an offense that's putting up thirty seven points a game or

whatever it is. I mean, one hundred and seven in the first thirty five point seven Okay, got seven, right, It's Friday, Like, that's all right, that's all right. I just licked it up. Jason did say say when he did go out in the fourth quarter, it was Jalen Smith handling the communication through the helmet communication. Oh, they ran out with the Bucky had the out with the new helmet, so it would be Jaalen. I would think no, no, he was. They gave him I mean this marine dot yeah, hey,

or it might be Durant. You never known ability off him. Paya was also outside doing his individual drills, as he did all last week, so I would imagine he's listed as did not practice. I see if they I think he's in can nurse his knee through another week? Carol and a Woozier were out can give you individual absolutely? Absolutely? Yeah? Got anything else more important? I was ready to throw it to you guys to tell him. Rod just took

off him. Imagine that. Yeah, and then Cavan Frasier was out there, Hitchen was out there, and Lewis was out there doing whatever they were doing after stretch. Thanks Nicky, we got an update on that. Can we You're welcome. Can I ask you this, guys, even if if if Carol is healthy and I think he's gonna play, you still start still start brown at that other corner? I would, yeah, opposite Scandrick, Yeah, yeah, I would, I think so too. I don't think you guys are wrong there. Carol to

me is this week's ben Wickery. It's a good point. Yeah, kind of the guy that just in case, because I don't know that he's totally okay. And the way Jason talked in the walkthrough, he still had to pass his last hurdle to get out of the concussion protocol, and one of the last hurdles is you've got to go out and practice right, and then they want to see what the residual effect is that the next day. And so I would imagine today's the next day dealing with

a lot of speed with these Rams outside receivers too. Yeah, it's a tough matchup for any of these guys. Well, Tavon Austin was full yesterday too, And I'll just go ahead and give you guys the Rams practice report. Connor Barwin obviously back out there when he had a rest day, Malcolm Brown fool still LaMarcus Joiner d n P. So, guys, that's kind of a little bit of a breaker. Hamstring. Hamstring.

That's a starting safety right there. Well, their starting center was only limited after not practicing on Wednesday, so keep an eye on that. Of course. Sammy Watkins, you just talked about a speedy wide receiver. He was full yesterday. Cavon Webster, their cornerback, he is back at practice, even did something a little bit crazy on social media for them talking about how he was ready to be back and ready to face on some some Dez Bryant. So, hey,

take on that task. Good luck Andrew Whitworth back out there full after a rest day. So the Rams are healing and getting back to the field in all the right spots. An extra day of work in who the Rams. Yeah, like maybe an extra walkthrough or something like that. They probably they played Thursday, probably gay player today off Friday, because you could think of a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I think they practice Monday. Yeah, Monday. Yeah, that's what

I think. And they didn't have to report, like that's an extra practice, right, so they don't have to report any injuries. Yeah, in that practice. Well, Darryl Johnston was around here today, he is doing the game on Sunday, and we were talking and I was like, oh, you know, everyone's been talking about the long week in the short week and all that stuff. He did say the Rams will be arriving in Texas today to acclimate more to the time change and do all that. So West Coast

teams have done that in the past. That's an old Bill Walsh thing and It's so funny because when we were in Green Bay, we in in the middle of the country. We would do the same thing going east or west if we had to go way down south or we had to go way out to the west. And that's one of those things where you know you travel. John Snyder always talks about this. In Seattle, they have an extra travel day always built in. That's kind of

hard on your team. Well, it is hard, and that's why you know Micky's talking about having the extra practice day. They do have to travel and they do have to get ready to play two hours earlier than what they're really normal. Yeah, thin am start for them. And it's early for the Cowboys too. I mean we talked about it earlier in the week. They haven't had many noon games. That's they're they're the Cowboys. They're gonna play late. They're

gonna play in that primetime slot. And so the message from the coaches this week has been, this game's coming on you quick. You know you've got Saturday, but you gotta be ready to go. And this is a team offensively and defensively too, as it started too too strong early in games. You know you can't especially offensively you can't afford another three and out, three and out to start the game, not against this offense. Early bus from the Ford Center leaves at eight fifteen on Sunday for

the stadium. That's early. And I think they have an eight forty five or was it eight. I think it was like forty five. They were supposed to be there by. Yeah, so that's kind of early. So what's the primetime college game that they might be saying a watching because let's hope it's not that good. Yeah, yeah, there'll be no more midnight curfew like last week. It's like a big pack twelve matchup that's gonna end it two in the morning or hopefully. No, that's what I'm saying. We don't

we don't need any of that. We need these guys arrested and ready to go. Of course, you guys heard Mickey say Cavan Frasier was added that his knee kind of just a little tweak. He was limited. I don't think there's any real concern of whether he'll be able to play or not. And of course Carol now coming back, and Hitchen's getting ready to probably come back next week, next week. Not Yeah, can I ask a question about about Jordan Lewis. Did you guys notice his knee rapped yesterday?

I wasn't out at practice. I didn't see practice. I just saw him in the locker room. Yeah, it's listed a hamstring. Yeah to me though it's a little long to be a hamstring. Yeah, just looking at the rap kind of goes down, you know. I was just curious if you guys noticed. We spoke to him yesterday. He said he's feeling okay, feeling pretty good. He did pop up yesterday on the injury report limited, so I don't know if they're tailing him back a little bit leading

into the game. You know, we'll see any bulletins from Jerry Jones this morning. Yeah, I saw that you were getting. And we don't have to get into the political speech. We're football show. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of anthem talk. Um. He addressed Sean Lee, but it was mostly about what they might do in terms of pregame this week, and he didn't want to speculate on that one. Did you think it was interesting, Uh, that he said, okay, you guys can go listen to it.

What No, Um, The fact that he talked about the slow start, that made me too much. Oh well good, Uh, the focus on the anthem and what they were going to do and maybe weren't concentrating on the game. And if you remember, I pointed out that Oakland might have done the same thing. They got off to a real slow start that Thursday night because they decided they were

going to sit arm in arm on the bench. He Pittsburgh was another team that went to Chicago and didn't do very well after all there, and they stayed in. They stayed in, start out of their routine, right. Yeah. I thought that was interesting that he he brought that out. Um ye, and he did it. He offered it. He didn't get asked. He offered it. Yeah, as one of the reasons why they got to get off to a slow start, because if you remember, offensively it was two

three and outs. Yeah, and defensively they drove for scores, kept the guy missed the field goal. Yeah. So I thought that was that was pretty interesting. Yeah, it is. But why did they have a slow start against the Broncos? Yeah, I mean I think the Broncos were just better personnel

personnel wise. I don't you know to me that that game, that game defensively for the Cowboys was as bad as it can get when you talk about having them, Matt, I mean, when Denver's ability to run the one, we're going all the way back, but Denver's ability, it's balanced. I mean, Jason Garrett even talked about the Rams today. What's made the Rams successful? It was balanced. You know, they have that ability to run the football, they have ability to throw the ball. They've made a lot of plays.

I think the Broncos. The Broncos offensively put the Cowboys into tear spot. It helped her defense surely in that game well, and that trend they'd carry over into the last week because Scott Lenahan spoke to it yesterday. Zeke spoke to it yesterday. They're not producing enough on first and second down, and that's a big problem. This team's only converting thirty four percent of their third down opportunities. They're just not staying on the field. It's hurting their defense,

it's hurting their offense. And they finally got going in the second half. You hope that's that's a sign of things to come. I mean, think about it. They've only scored seven touchdowns in three games. Yeah, Todd Gurley's got six, Yeah, and four of those touchdowns came after they scored one with a minute ten left in the first half, So they scored, they almost went another half without a touchdown.

They're struggling. Yeah, and a lot of it has to do with what you said, not very good on first down, and it's carrying over to the third down, and then it makes third down very difficult. Coach Lenahan spoke to minus runs a couple of different times times yesterday and that carried into the second half. You know, Zeke got go. It's funny how Zeke gets a seven yard game and an eight yard touchdown run after back to back throws to Bryce Butler for ninety yards. And you kind of

spoke to that earlier in the week too. You got to be able to loosen up the running down. Yeah. I like what Mickey brought up yesterday when he brought up the point, Hey it doesn't and we got into it if it has to be a completion and different things. But if they do go in there and they have a big play on that first series, I think we might see a different start just in that first little bit because if they see like, okay, it's not gonna come down to right here in the trenches. It's really

gonna have to be who beats who in the backfield. Yeah, give them something to think about. Which is weird because last year I forgot what the streak was. They're opening, they're opening, No, they're opening series. They would go down and score, Yeah, no problem. Yeah, it was like they were so good when you win, it was six plays eighty yards and you know, away you go sort of drink there of how times they scored first that game and this time this year so far it ain't been

in that way. Ruggled. Yeah, I will say opening the season, this was the only team in the Internet NFL to have their first four games going up against defenses that were rated top ten last ten. Yeah, so no question they knew what they were in for. Maybe they've learned some things, hopefully they have after especially facing that. Yeah. But you also thought though that the Cowboys were equipped

offensively to do some good against that. You did, you know with Beasley and you felt like you could run the football. I mean, I'm not going to put it all on the offensive line, but you felt like though that going in I was not I'm not saying I was over confident, but I felt like, I hear people say that, and I'm like, yeah, but Dallas matches up pretty well against that. They match up against a team

that can play defense. I mean, they must have played some good defenses last year, right, That's what I was kind of thinking, and I was I'm not trying to I'm not trying to kill your point. I'm just trying to say to me, you know, it's it's not like you have you're Jacksonville or you're a team that struggles offensively. You know, you're thinking, oh god, we got to play

against four top ten defenses. You had all your pieces, you had all your pieces, you know, and you have the ability to run the football, and you just you just haven't. Execution has been really poor, and especially on what you're talking about first downs and what is this one there? Now they're twenty second Yeah, well that's to me, this defense and watching the Rams play will give up

big plays. And hopefully you do get off to that start where you're talking about that you take the you take, you take the ball, and now you're on the twenty five minute, you have you know, six seven plays where you're able to put some things together, whether it's running the ball or throwing the ball, but that they they've got to they've got to have a better start, if anything, to get the crowd into it and help the defense

with points. I mean they've gone out there and how many times this have been seven nothing to start the game? You know, the Cowboys having to having to deal with that, and then all of a sudden you're running game. Yeah, and then you'll compromise, especially you get down two scores and it's like that was Denver. You basically ditched the running game. Yeah. I'm going to predict they get off to a better start than the Bears did last night. I like hearing that. YEA was that awful? Well, I

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portion of practice today due to a hip injury. Remains to be seen if he'll do anything later on m So that's problematic if he's limited, especially if it's a hip. I wonder if it's the same hip he had surgically repaired a couple of years ago. Yeah, I didn't see that one coming. So there we are. Jonathan Cooper get ready maybe? Yeah. So before that kind of helps, you know, we're going to talk about who we would suggest as maybe the inactives this week or not suggest but think

it might be. And one of them, definitely for me, was to have Jonathan Cooper. But I'll go through these guys, and now with the Chads Green News, maybe we can discuss a little bit more about different guys. Got so we got seven Cooper Rush. I think that's pretty confirmed. Thirty three Cheetoh yeah, I put Alfred out this week, So maybe that might be one of our guys who we might talk about talk about why'd you do that? Well, let's get to that. Oh, we're not supposed to talk

about it. Now. Let her go through them fifty fifty nine, sixty four, and ninety nine. But now with Chaz Green and probably having to move up Jonathan Cooper, still remains to be seen what this injury is with Chad's Green in the severity of it. But do you consider maybe I don't know, I don't know what you would do. Obviously, Charles Tapper sitting there, do you take down another d lineman? Do you take where? Do you where do you make that move? I think you get a wide receiver? Is

it eighty five? No? I think if you're gonna, if you're gonna, if chat you're calling Chaz Green out If I'm not saying he's out, no, No, But I'm saying, if you had to I flip, it's gonna be Cooper and him are gonna flip. That's what's gonna happen there that you know, as talking to some guys though, these these backup linemen don't get a lot of work with the ones, so kind of you know, we'll see how

it all plays on me. He's a veteran guy. But if if Chaz Green doesn't go, I don't think he would be Joe Looney, Well, you wouldn't consider carrying Cooper just as insurance. Yeah, they did that with Oh, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, if Chaz goes, if Chads is playing, But then they did that with the wide receiver the other day. Remember that. Then there's in the Denver game and then all of a sudden they didn't have anybody.

That's what I'm saying. Like the defensive back Heay mentioned, Noah Brown, maybe he's a guy that you know, week to week, depending on your situation, he has to be inactive. I don't know. Do you feel comfortable with Jonathan Cooper playing at left guard? I mean he I thought he was a better I thought he was a better guard than than Chaz Green was in the preseason. So he's played it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, he's a veteran guy. It's it's Aaron Donald occasionally over him.

We've talked about that in our Xerox blueprint thing that we shot this morning. Might ever play yeah, yeah, they might take advantage well, but they play him to the open side, so you can formation him if you want, you know, you could try to and going up against this strong defensive front for the Rams. Yeah, you know, we're just talking about they have to get the run game going. How did you see Jonathan Cooper help that when he was playing in the preseason. You know what,

I I didn't. I thought all along that they were going to play I thought along they were gonna play Jonathan Cooper at guard, start him at guard, and then let Chads Green be the swing tackle. That's what I thought they were going to do because he yeah, because he has he experienced, yeah, the experience. But Chas Green

hasn't played badly. He hasn't played badly, So I'm just to me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking that if they have to go to Cooper, it's not a terrible thing, because I didn't think that Jonathan Cooper was terrible during the preseason. Chads has played better than each practice exactly. So When you guys talk about the running game not being up to its usual standards, you don't point to Chaz Green.

I don't throw it over because I think when people are trying to search for answers, they're saying, well, yeah, got two new pieces on the offensive line, what's different? And I'm with you, guys, I haven't seen chads just like totally compromise at that spot. See what happens though, is it's got to be five guys in concert with

each other. And when you put two new ones in there, it's not necessarily they're bad, right, but something I mean, if you look at some of those running places, somebody was missing, something was going wrong, and it wasn't the same guy every time. Look at the first play of the game. No, I think you could point to each t Smith, each guy. Yeah, no doubt. So you know if one guy makes a Mistand I thought Frederick made

a good point. You know he was he was talking about you know, it's it's not like the running games, not like the passing game, because if something goes wrong in the passing game, the quarterback can either get out of the pocket. Uh, he could find a different receiver, or he could dump the ball off. If somebody makes a mistake in the running game, it's very noticeable. It's

a dead play. It's done. That's what I was talking about earlier about Zeke and his ability to make miss because there are times when guys run free or get free, and his ability to make those guys miss. Yeah, but if it's an unblocked guy that you didn't account to block, I think that's a different story. But if it's somebody that's supposed to be blocked and the guy beats his man, there's nothing he could do. Having that happened a lot

in the first half. But we've seen him, we've seen him make guys miss, but he's he was getting tackled a couple of times from behind. Guys were through and kitting him from behind. You can't make that guy miss. I'm gonna. I'm gonna I'll ask the question then when you watch, when you watch, when you went back and watch the game, did you notice anybody. I mean, I'm just asking. I first play the game, tyrants, tyredepeat. Yeah, there was another play Chas Green got beat. There was

another play Travis Frederick got beat. You know, and if he doesn't, if he doesn't shake off Tyr and Matthew, there's no thirty yard run and that it's a third and one play, so he's gonna get Yeah, yeah, he's gonna get nothing. He hit him behind the line of scrimmage. He came through free, no one picked him up, and and he missed him from behind, not in the front. It wasn't like he shaked him off. So everybody's making

a mistake. And that's what Frederick was saying. If one guy makes a mistake in the running game, it messes up the whole play. In the passing game, you can compensate for a mistake. You got other receivers to go throw the ball to. So they just gotta be better. They got to be on point, and they haven't been. I didn't think last year that they were great all the time, and they still were one of the better teams in the running the ball. That's that that was clear.

There were there were problems they had last year because Zeke would get you extra yard. I told he would lower his shoulder due he has to do if it if it was if it was play was blocked poorly, he'd get two yards. Well, we're just going to agree to disagree on that. Well, that's that's true. I mean, that's and he by the way, he told you to shut up yesterday who me, No, somebody asked your question.

He told the guys shut up. You know what, though, some of these plays, if you, if you watch him, like the toss sweeps the cracks and stuff like that place where he could take at six seven yards and it's three yards, maybe maybe he maybe he needs to look at himself a little bit there. I'm not I'm not trying to kill him. I'm really not. I'm just saying we've grown accustomed to see him make some spectacular runs with less blocked place. That's all I'm saying. And

if you want to disagree, that's fine. I will. I have no problems. If you can't get to the line of scrimmage, if you get in the hole, if you and you can make an unblocked guy missed, that's that's a different story. Have you said when you can't get to the hole, you're getting hit behind the line of scrimmage? I mean, why did he have all those those those

runs for losses? How many? How many runs? How many runs have you seen this year where he's cut back into tacklers where the hole is front where they do block the play front side, and he if he carries the ball front side, behind behind Collins and Martin, it's at least going to be four yards. But he takes it back and then it's a no game because they didn't get the backside. I mean, he cuts right into a guy where if he just carried it front side,

he'd gotten for you, well, that's a different story. It's run. It's runs talking. I was balking it front the football. You were talking about him making a guy missed. I wasn't talking about that. How are talking about last guys that are unblocked? You can't make last guys. Last year though, he was one of the best in the league. When we can go back and watch him, I mean you go back and watch him carry the football, and he was one of the best. The jump cuts things like that,

well he did. He tried to jump cut and he just said he jumped out of the hole and he got hit in the back side. But the Matthew play is an unblocked guy, right, he was unblocked. And yeah, Zeke said that yesterday. He said, if everything else is blocked, they want to commit more guys to the line of scrimmage. I've got to make the unblocked guy miss. He said that right, and he shot. He didn't make a miss. He just didn't make the tackle. He shook him off.

He didn't make it, he said. He just in general, though, in general, to run the ball. Go back and see how many one yard runs he had and minus runs. See the thing about it, though, is yeah, but go back and watch how many times last year the players weren't block cleanly. Mickey too, That's another thing. He had sixteen hundred yards Russian. I don't care if you can't get in the hole, you can't make a guy miss. Let's see every play was not blocked cleanly. Every place

no block. I'm not saying they're block cleanly, but you're not having a guy come loose when it's the defensive tackle or the defensive end. If a linebackers not block, I understand that, but it wants a guy on the line of scrimmage. How do you make that guy miss? You're you got the ball and he's on top of you.

They had a deal the other day. I'll see. It's a little bit self inflicted too, with the way that they play their their scheme because you bring Terrence Williams in the block and he doesn't block, you know that, and that's there's no reason to bring him. No, there's no reason to bring him inside that I agree, because that brings another guy into the box. Don't disagree there. But we saw what happened though when they do block the play well. His touch eight yard touchdown run was

a well blocked play. But there's but running backs. Like Rob said, it's there's not always going to be clean runs. That's just mine. That's just what I see. Hey, a lot of questions coming in here about his physical shape. I don't think that's what we're talking about at all. We're not talking about if he's in football shape or not. We're just simply talking about what if he's able to get there? So is he playing as quick as he did last year? That's all I'm asking that SAPs on this, Mick.

I mean, there's no stats, it's just your eyes. Look at your eyes? Is he Is he getting the runs? And Mickey's he's not. He's not wrong, He's not wrong. But the thing is is he getting when when you have the opportunity, when things are well blocked, is he getting the six and seven yard games. He might be getting three, he might be getting four. And I'm just talking about the stuff that's going on the edge. I'm talking about getting around the corner and making somebody and

getting up the field for six or seven yards. How many times we talked about the Bears game he gets outside hurdles, a guy gain of twelve, he's out of bounce, one of those kind of plays. Those are the players I'm talking about. We're not seeing those plays from him running the football. We aren't. You waited until week three to see his first touchdown. True, I'm just he's not wrong.

I'm not saying I mean, I don't. I have my difference of opinion with him because I feel like that he is not as quick as he is to the hole, and he's not through the hole as quick as he was last year. That's just what my opinion. All right, Well, agree to disagree on that. But do you guys agree or disagree that the guy out for the running backs will be Alfred Morris this week. I think they're starting

to play him less. And we saw last week that that Rod Smith was the first guy off the b I'm writing about that today in my final thoughts, what are you seeing from Morris? That are you're not seeing from Morris? They've just they've gone away from him. They have completely gone away from him. And I wouldn't be surprised Mickey brought it up earlier, did we start seeing McFadden back in the mix. I would not be be one bit surprised that they say, Okay, let's we're gonna

use Smith. Let's see what we do with McFadden as well. But I just have a feeling that we're gonna we're gonna see a change there the way, especially the way they're using it. We'll no more. October second, another court date, Yeah, Monday, Right, Monday, lawyer Rob, we'll get on that. I'll have a report. Yes, lawyer Rob, get your briefcase out, get over there. It's gotten a little bit more confusing too, by the way. We get one thing they're arguing, they're arguing about two

different deals. Now he's playing Sunday. Yeah that much we know, Yeah, that we do know. Ezek Elliott played college football in Ohio and our caller Joe is from Ohio. So Joe, what is your question? Yeah, I got a question for Mickey. He keeps talking about the short week for Dallas next week against green Bay versus green Bay's long week. I want to ask Mickey, why doesn't he say the same thing last year when Dallas had two weeks to pare for green Bay and green Bay only had one week.

He's talking about talking about the playoffs. Yeah, well I'm talking about that short week coming up for Dallas. Yeah, but you were talking about the playoffs last year. Well, Dallas had two week. That's why, because they had a better record. They earned that. Yeah, well they had two weeks to prepare. Now, now you keep complaining all the short weeks. Complain. I just pointed it out. Why would I complain? You always complain. No, you just don't listen.

Well that's all okay, as weight films listening skill. Thanks Dad, appreciate your calling. Amazing that Brian's dad was Ohio. My dad know how Mark that you always complain because you always complain. My dad in Ohio defending his son. Good stuff. Why can't the guy just look at the facts. Yeah, I mean it's pretty easy. They played Thursday, the Cowboys

played Monday. It's a fair point about how he was upset that the Cowboys didn't, from his point of view, prepare enough for the Packers in the playoff game when they had two weeks. Yeah, don't have to. Everybody that went that has the best record gets that advantage. Sometimes the teams, you know, they're playing for their lives, are better playoff teams at that time. We've seen as as the league is a more parody, we've seen more of these when you're wildcard teams fighting for your life. You're

but you find a way to get through. I'll take ten day break over six any any day. What Rams compared to Cowboys this week? I'll take what the Rams got. I tell you what Packers have more time? Well, the Packers to the Packers took some serious hits last night though, too. There's that whole thing that's gonna be They played well last night again Seal Bear down Bears, and they kept losing one guy after another after another. We'll see. Yeah, that was a bad hit less night. It was a

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talking pizza. Cowboys have much less time to eat pizza between games, right, But if they're gonna eat pizza, it's Papa John's because they know those ingredients are freshhole and never frozen pepperoni usd A approved and with ingredients like that, better pizza, Papa John. Hey, if there's one thing that Mickey cannot complain about, that would be Papa John John's. Absolutely only the best, actually anybody's pizza. Yeah, I could eat pizza every day. I know Nicky's Italian. You could

never tell. Never, you could never tell. But hey, so Alfred Morris, that's a guy. Yeah, I don't yeah, I just I don't know. I'm thinking about Alfred Morris there I'm thinking about because I'm just not seeing I'm not seeing him play. I'm not seeing him play him enough. Yeah, and the and the first guy off the bench in the Arizona game was Rod Smith. So you guys gonna keep two running backs? No, no, no, no, no no, I'm gonna bring I'm gonna bring McFadden up. I think it's

time for Mickey's Mickey's play on. You know what, Let's let's get McFadden ready to play. Then maybe get him ready this one in case he has to start. That's that's what I'm saying. That's Mickey came up with a really good theory. You know, hey, maybe they're just kind of keeping him fresh. It's kind of what I wanted to do with Mo Clayboard. Wanted to dress him like in week nine so he would like last the remainder

of the season the playoffs put him in a bubble suit. Yeah, just wait here now, Charles Tapper, I also put down it's comfortable with that? Or do you think there might be a switch there? I mean, I somebody on the show said, Tacos a first round pick. Let's let's keep his spirits up, let's give him reps. Nicky said follow the money. That's what I said to a certain degree. Yes, but I mean you got to see something. You got to see progress or you and look, there's another defensive

lineman coming back next week. So then what do you do if you got to sit two of these guys? Yeah, so I wouldn't guarantee that he's active every week. Well, but I would probably say I probably guess Tapper here again, you've got an open spot because you have one less linebacker, right, yeah, because you're sitting too, but you're moving up Nolan Carroll, Nolan Carroll is gonna play for Yeah. Sure, I think Nolan Carroll plays this week. You think he passed. I

think I think. I think, yeah, I think Nolan Carroll plays this week. I think he Maybe Ben Rickery doesn't. That's that could be. Yeah, But I because I've got I've got him active, because I think that maybe they can use both those guys and Jordan Lewis I've got, I've got, I've got. I agree with Taylor on the I agree with Taylor with wo with rush A Woosier Morris. I like what she's saying there. Now I think about it. I put Lee down. I put Lee down, I would,

and I put Hitchens down. I think Hitchens is Mickey's Mickey's right. Hitchen's gonna be back next week. I think that's what you're gonna see, especially if maybe you hold on. Now we don't know about Jonathan Cooper. That's the that's the one. Yeah, but that would switch switch out, you switch out Coop. They can't. They can't say, Okay, Green, you're gonna start, but we don't trust you, and we're gonna keep Cooper active too. I think it's got to be one or the other, don't you Why? Why? Why

not both? I mean, do you have to keep six wide receivers active every week? No? I don't think so. I did thinking that they do. You know, they they've they've kind of they made they made the commitment to him to play. They don't they don't have to keep I'm just saying they don't have to keep six wide receivers. But it seems like in this, in this to help the running game bit, you know, the crack toss and you know him on the edge, the big Dwayne Harris blocker.

You know, it's seems like that's what they're that's the plan for this guy. Okay. I agree with you, though, I just I don't think you have to keep six wide receivers active. I'm just thinking about my offensive line and how important is to keep this momentum going that you're trying to get with the running game, and if chaz Is starts the game, but has problems. I'd like to have Cooper available. That's my only thing. That's what Joe Looney's there for. But I mean he's the but

he mostly played center and can't remember that. Yeah, but he did play some guard. He's played guard and he was scout team stuff that right now he's getting scout team work at guard, I'm sure. But yeah, I see what Rob's saying though, if he could have him there instead of having Noah Brown there, I mean, we focused way more on the offensive line. Yeah, like then sure that's functioning. Let me ask you, let me ask the

guys here a question. Then, if you're going to protect yourself, where would you rather protect yourself offensive line or in the secondary? Because Ben Wickery, you know what I'm saying, Well, we saw them not protected in Denver and that was a big problem. Yeah, I protect myself in the secondary. Yeah, I mean you decided that Joe Looney was your swing. That's guy. That's what I'm kind of saying. You have no protection. If Jazz Green gets hurt, you can't use

right he's inactive, right, so they say Looney's the backup. See, That's what I'm saying is if if if I know that there's a there's a Jordan Lewis is telling Rob Phillips, hey, I'm okay, I'm okay, And all of a sudden, it's the fourth play of the game and they start one of those Sammy Watkins starts one of those vertical runs and all and all of a sudden, it's like, WHOA, where's uh? You know, you guys are reporting tweeting from the press box, Jordan Lewis is on the sidelines talking

to the trainers, Now, where are you? You know that's kind of where Yep, I've just seen it already. We've said I'm thinking I would, I'm thinking he's right, and protect myself in the secondary, then protect myself in the offensive line. Hey, this feels like this has really been the first game. Makes sense. We're three weeks into this

thing where the inactives just aren't as positive. And by positive, I don't mean it's ever positive when people are suffering from injuries, but I mean you're not as certain about them as you have been in past and next week it's going to get even more mercer, murkier, mercier when you talk about you know what's going to happen with with David Irving? Oh yeah, and is he in good enough shape? And they haven't seen him here? They haven't

seen him. You know. That's that's that's something he's been gone, you know since training camp next week is gone. No spies, no spies, but Rob, what are the spies on your pool? Telling us? Because I voted yesterday? Did you guys vote? I forgot to look? Oh thanks, Mack, appreciate this yesterday. He didn't forget I even voted, right, you did? Yeah, okay, didn't? I was it with the majority I've had. I've had a nine percent team. You're kind of I'll go the

other way from everybody else kind of a guy. Biggest key to a win. Sunday got four options containing Todd Gurley blocking Aaron Donald first and second down offense, preventing big pass plays from Jared Goff. Who'd you vote, Tay? I put containing Todd Gurley? All right, I'm about the down and distance guy, I'm about the first and second down. Okay, I checked every one of them. They don't let Twitter doesn't look very one of those needs to be checked.

They're all important, and you do them all all of the above Okay, you guys will be shocked. I'm with Taylor, guys, Mickey loves me. We go to lunch every Day's girly. Girly's the vote for you guys. He got twenty one percent of the vote, Brian's vote fifty five percent, first and second down. Smart. I'm not even I'm not even repaying Mickey's compliment, you know, because he just knows how wise I am. I'm ruining it. You guys, finish, we

do so the girl, the girl. You guys voted for the girly thing, Yes, girly thing, the girly thing, because he just like you guys, didn't miss that yesterday. Yeah, you know it's that's a good vote. Because really, everything they've done is Goff has played really well, but it's predicated off having an elite running back. They loved play action. We saw it with the Redskins with McVeigh when he was there. Kirk Cousins did that, and they're able to get the ball down the field. Goff I think is

leading the league in in UM passing yards per attempt. Yeah, he is slinging it so and a lot of that's because they've got an elite running back yet and guess what the running back is also catching passes here for the lead in hushdowns four and two. Yeah, so he's good. Hey, and you told us before the Broncos game, and this ended up being very true, whoever scored one hundred or whoever posted up one hundred and forty yards rushing was

going to win that game. Yeah, the Cowboys didn't. And it was C. J. Anderson who was just this dynamite running back that day. And he's not even anywhere close to Todd Gurley. Yea, the problem was somebody erased the one because they got forty. Yeah, they just forgot the hundred, the extra hundred. Yeah, that's I don't you guys make a good point with that with Gurley because we saw what happened when you didn't when they did have balance.

What's what's been? Who was second? Uh? Girly Gurley was second? Yeah, after first and second down, Bryan, It's okay, the uh somebody getting back here in a second. But the thing about it is, though, to me, if you look at the struggles that the Cowboys have had, the two wins have been they haven't had somebody been able to run the football against them. Where the one game they lost they did have a back that was able to get one hundred yards. They had balanced that was a that

was a big problem. So two wins, no one hundred yard rusher, the one loss was bad with the big rusher. I mean that was the first one hundred yard Russia They had allowed Alfred Morris right Alfred Morris on January third, two thousand and sixteen. So it had been a minute

since this defense had really been tested. And now when we're discussing about which linebackers will play and which ones will, you know, take on the main responsibility of that, it's a little bit and Todd Gurley, we know, we've talked about it at exhaust this week. He was joking with Michael Iring saying about whoop up on the Cowboys. But I don't want to even I want to maintain that did A and M have to play Georgia when Gurley

was was there? Do you remember watching a game? I don't think we've played Georgia in the SEC yet, you haven't. My boyfriend went because I saw yeah, and would say that you did not want to play him, and that even when he was out, Nick Chubb would come in and it was I saw a way too much of him,

believe me. Yeah, I think he's still running on Missouri. Yeah, if he gave me a choice, if you gave a choice between him and Ezekiel Eliot, I would take him over Ezekiel Early Why and I love as complete They're both complete backs. We had this discussion a couple of weeks ago. I think we mentioned Girly. We talked about Levion Bell. Yeah, and somebody oh the question I was asking the radio, Mick. I don't know if they asked you this question, did about the who would you rather have?

That kind of would you rather have Golf and Gurley as opposed to Dak and Zeke? Which is you know if you think about Okay, do I like the runner better than the quarter? I mean, how you how you present that? So? Yeah, I love I'm a big fan of Todd Curley. You'd rather have rocking uniform, the Cowboys color rush or the La Rams color Rush? Because I'm with the Cowboys all the way. Their color rush was Yeah. Interesting. But Jimmy from California on the line, Jimmy, what is

your question? I don't have a question, I have a comment. I agree with Mickey about the line. The line of the sums wrong. They need to put Cooper in sit Chads down for a minute. Can you gotta remember last year is gone. This is new team. It's going to be new problems. Thank you. You know that's a good point. Someone. I think everybody thinks you just pick up from where you left off. You went thirteen and three, and okay, let's go, You're gonna go fourteen and two. And he's right,

it's a new season with new problems. And you know, while we see the defense looks like it's taking steps forward, the offense kind of stuck in neutral right now and they got to figure it out. And you know, the Rams haven't been very good these first three games defensively. So let's see, when you go four and twelve, you're gonna play the bottom of the division all the time. You're gonna have a little bit of an easier schedule. When you go thirteen and three, you're gonna play the

top of those divisions. So the Cowboys schedule is dramatically different. It's only two games different. Atlanta and AFC West is a whole different division. I know that didn't matter about their record, Yeah, Mick, you and I just are going to agree to disagree on that. It's two games, well, two games against Atlanta and Green Bay, but they haven't played any of those games yet. Somebody that was in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean we're talking about and

the Rams have to play San Francisco. I'm talking when you come down to the end of the season and usually the divisions decided by the last week. You'd rather play two games against not quarterback. I understand that, but before it was more games. Now it's just two games. I'll say that. And you're right, Tay. When we looked at the schedule in April, we looked at this first month and we said, wow, these are some really good defensive fronts. Can those teams score enough points against Dallas

and Denver scored forty two? Getting good better quarterback play? And I don't think anybody saw Saint Louis being this efficient offense. Los Angeles say St. Louis, Sorry, why not La La the greatest show on turf? Saint Rams. You know, dude, I to me, this is you know they they this is gonna be a heck of a game. We've talked about that, but the schedule, the way it is playing

the AFC West. You know that's that's that's no, no, And that's what I'm saying when you start thinking about it, though, Okay, the Giant, the difference might be the two games you have to play against Green Bay and where the Giants are gonna play Detroit and somebody else the Bears, But I don't know somebody like that, or who finished second what the Giants. Giants did so that they get in Detroit.

They get Detroit, and they're gonna get who in the Tampa Bay and Tampa Bay and that's a little different. You're right, the rest of division has to play, but not the rest of the conference. And yes, you can win your division in a when everybody's got to play the same teams, but but you have no control of that. You're winning didn't have anything to do with what division

you played, is my point. It's a tougher schedule. But just because you went thirteen and three, does it mean, oh, you got to go play the AFC West, so does everybody else in your division. That's true. I know what you're saying about the conference, but that's just kind of the role of the dice. I mean, that's the way it works out. We will hold this podcast until the end of the season, and if this season comes down to one game, yeah, we will listen to that again.

Hang it, yeah, I just to me this. You know, it's it's you got to play whoever you play. I mean, I bet when you looked at the schedule, you thought, oh, it's the Rams the fourth game they got a break. Oh yeah, you would, You didn't think so. No. I looked at it and said, well, they got to play Aaron Donald after they play Von Miller, and well, okay, that's one of Jones. Expect the Rams offense to be this good. Yes, that's that. I'll admit that. That's the shock.

The shock really is the Rams defense is not good. That's the real, the real shock. And here they are. They get they get you know, Wade Phillips. We knew they were going to make a coaching change, but all of a sudden, Wade Phillips shows up. You're thinking, Okay, they just now got that personnel with Wade Phillips as a coach, and they'll get there, I think, But maybe

they're not. Hopefully, yeah, yeah, hopefully, and when they're playing the Eagles and everybody else, you know, I'm sure you guys will be watching cover for on Sunday at t x A twenty one, nine nine thirty am. But Manny did a full breakdown of how the Rams were built and hear about all the different draft picks. Oh no, they were able to receive and how some of them have only turned out a certain way. The trade they made with the Redskins for RG three, they only have

two of the guys. Yeah, teams, they did a good job of supplementing current their current team with with with Sammy Watkins and Woods and guys like that, and they they hey, they sold the farm to go get golf and if if they got they got a coach that looks like he understands how to use him. So well, yeah, they decided, okay, we've got this young quarterback. We got to do something to help him. Yeah, when they got Watkins, they added a couple of veteran linemen. So they've done

a good job. I mean, the Giants didn't really know to help help their older quarterback. Well, as much as they've been losing and as high as they've been drafting, Yeah, they ought to be better at some point, right, they really they they But Taylor's right there we're looking at you. Yeah, they all how are they doing right now? By the way, they're two and one? Yeah they're two and one. But see that. But the difference between it goes back to the coach. To me, they might be thirty one. But

I think he gets this, No he does. I think he gets I think he gets his. I think he understands his I think he understands his quarterback. I think he uses his weapons well, the receivers, the runner, and he went out got a legendary defensive coordinator to call defenses, you know, And that's that's that's been their problem right now that that has that has been they give up huge plays. But you know, like I said, hopefully they

continue to give a big place for another week. Say anybody used Wade's tweet about him and the head coach? You use tweets, I said, did anybody you were on the don't? I don't know. I didn't. I read it in a newspaper tweet. Were the only the only team in the league that has the head coach on daycare and the defensive coordinator on Medicare there you go? Twy Mickey could read about a tweet in the newspaper I love that he would say that. See, because that's what

the newspapers are doing. They're quoting tweets. They get ink on your fingers. Yeah, they do, right, because it's the greatest. Did you guys see what Witten said yesterday about the age line of the day, line of the day? Tell us the line? He said, Uh, well, I don't know exactly, but it was like, I'm thirty six and we've got a head coach. I don't think I've ever played against a coach who's younger than I am. It must be

a sign, yeah, what sign of what he's like? Oh, I just gotta keep on going, man, I just gotta keep on going. Did a guy just turned thirty one? Yeah, basically yes, yes, but he likes he likes the youth wit and does. He talks a lot about it with well it was last year. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I don't mean to bring up last year, but yeah, I think it gave him a little bit of boost. You know, he saw that these two guys gave him a chance

to maybe make a Super Bowl run. And they they won enough games to get home field, they just couldn't finish it. To finish the dude, well, I like what you're saying about McVeigh getting it because you know that I love marion Elli. Oh sure, great Marion Ellie was telling me about Joe Barry's decision to follow him to the Los Angeles Rams, and I mean he said he would run through a wall for him. Yeah, yes, says a lot. I don't think age really matters, and guy

knows a lot of football, he sure does. Coaching staffs do matter. They do matter a lot. They do matter a lot, they do, and hopefully our coaching staff will have it all figured out. I hope so Sunday at noon at at and T Stadium. Until then, signing off from the STPBC Mortgage studio, Nicky, Rob Brian myself, thank you so much for joining us,