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Talkin' Cowboys give their last preview before Dallas hosts the Chargers on Thanksgiving.

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This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot com and the official Dallas Cowboys as Now your hosts Mickey'spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It's Wednesday of Chargers Week here at the Star in Frisco. And of course we are always grateful for you guys listening, but especially today, the day before Thanksgiving. It's gonna be a fun one and it's gonna be a big game for

the Dallas Cowboys after they've had two hard losses. But how are you guys doing today? I'm good, I'm thankful to be covering a game so quickly after what happens Sunday night. Yeah, just get it out of your mind. Quick turnaround, let's go. Yeah, why not? That's it's it's to the point now where they're gonna come fast and you gotta find a way to win them. Though. That's that's the the whole secret. Jerry Jones said it yesterday.

It's about a arithmetic now, so you better figure out a way to win him to be involved with the arithmetic. You don't want to be the guy that has equals zero. Yeah, before we got into the three games in twelve days, what did you think. I think we did a poll on that that they were gonna go, yeah, undefeated. Well that was one of them. I think everybody went to two and one. That was kind of the thought, right, Yeah, I think think two and one won the pole. Two Yeah,

I thought one was the fandom. They thought that maybe the Philadelphia lost. What happened? And now you got to figure out a way. Honestly, you have to figure out way to win four games now, if you really want to be honest about this. Four out of six, Yeah, you've got to find a way five out of six, well, no, no, four, In the next four you've got to find a way to go on a little streak. You got to you gotta build up something's momentum when Ezekiel Elliott comes back.

That's what you gotta do. You got to find a way to kind of you know, Okay, hey we got a little we're feeling good. Okay, now we add him to the mix. It's like, oh wow, look what we just got here. A Christmas present. You got to make those last two games count. Make it count, I mean, get you know, look at last year. I look at Green bas team at this time. They were four and six last year, and that's when Aaron Rodgers made the proclamation that hey, we're gonna be in the playoffs. We're gonna,

we're gonna, we're gonna get into the playoffs. And all of a sudden, they won. And then they they were one of those teams that you know that got an end. And of course they feeded Dallas and they beat the Giants at home, feeded Dallas on the road, and then went to Atlanta. And I know it was a difficult game for them to win, but sometimes you have to draw the line in the sand, and I was hopeful last week that they would have drawn the line in

the sand. I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm a little kind of like, oh, but hey, you've got to find a way to turn this thing the positive direction. Well, the defense emptied their tank in the first half. I mean they yeah, they did everything they could to put the team in position in the first half. And you only got five punts, right, five straight three and ounce never happens. Since marion Elli has been the defensive coordinator

here in four seasons, I've never had that. I looked it up, but you only got three field goals out of it and then the damn broke. Yeah, and they've got to find a way to put two halves together. I don't know. We've talked about adjustments all week, but I think nauseum. Yeah, it's not so much that it's just staying on top of your assignments series after series. Yeah, and some of it has to do with talent. Someone has to do with not having certain guys that there's

no other way around it. Prescott went through yesterday with you guys about the mistakes and stuff that he may see. That's not about adjustments. That to me is about him realizing that, hey, I missed this throw, I missed this throw. I should have done this. You know. That's that's a second year quarterback right there. I mean, you know, and I know people have taken this the wrong way with me about oh that I thought that Romo, you know,

can carry the team and Dad can. I think I went back and watched the show yesterday and you question me on that, and rightfully so. But the thing about it is Dak is a young quarterback and he but the fact that he realizes that he can't miss throws. I think speaks well to his future, you know, but he he's got to execute better. And that's on the quarterback. But then he's not there's forty six other guys that need to or forty five of the guys that need

to figure it out too. You can't, like Rob said, you can't go in these games and play half of the game. You've got to figure out a way to fight through the whole game. I think Kansas City was a great example of fighting through a game. I mean they fought through it. I mean Kansas City is not an easy team to deal with, and you know, with all their weapons, and they played great run defense. They covered on the back end, they scored points. It was it was Zeke, I get it. It was Tyren Smith,

I get it. They wistood a run too. They whis stood a run. Just gonna say. A lot of people were like, oh, no, there it is that they'll marry at the end of the first half, yea gonna bury him away. You got back the start of the second half, scored another touchdown, and all of a sudden, so oh here we go. Yeah, they settled down and again they had Zeke, but they drove right back down the field and answer, somebody needs to step up and make plays. Now.

It's and I thought this was a couple of weeks ago in Atlanta when when Zeke was out, I'm like, I'm begging Dez Bryant to make a play. Yeah, I'm begging Cole Beasley to make a play. You know, I just you know, maybe, you know, I want to believe in my heart that they're a good enough football team to make plays. But maybe they're not. You know, maybe they're not. Maybe if they lose this game this week, and then it's becomes Okay, now let's do the autopsy.

What what is the real problem here? Is it? Is it just Ezekiel Elliott? Is it just a quarterback? Is it the wide receivers? Is it the lack of linebackers? It's the lack of overall depth in the team. You know you need now you need to do the autopsy. Then, yeah, well you brought up personnel and Mickey is joining us. You just got back from his fan hit on one oh five three. Look who's here? Look who's here? He's ready,

gum on our shoe, He's back. Welcome Mick best Gum you've ever had, Oh man, that gum out Mickey, you know that. Oh jeez, you guys. No one can pay for this kind of thing. I know, holiday spirit, the holiday spirit. Well, Mick, you're joining us. You know, we just got into everything and we're talking about how desperately this football team needs to this to win this game tomorrow, but they need to win five more games tomorrow, five more Just can you just wrap them? We try to

get him four. We try to get him four is what we try to do him right now. I try to get him to nine and five when Zeke comes back for Santa going down the chimney for Christmas Eve. Oh, I was talking about the whole rest of the way. Oh no, I would be great. Yeah, you might need to win eleven. This is what's how crazy this is, you know, with the way that the the NFC is. I mean, you've got some teams that are going to be kind of sitting there and you don't hold tiebreakers

on many of them. But you don't, so you got to make sure you're once some of these teams are going to start playing each other. So yeah, in the divisions, yeah, Carolina and the Saints South. Yeah, and then Atlanta will play the Saints and then you're gonna get Seattle, and I think the Rams play one more time. So you need somebody to start losing other than you. There's games that have to be lost. But yeah, you need to take care of yourself. Well, they are taking care of

themselves a little bit with injury wise. You know, you're looking forward to seeing some guys that have been out for a few weeks back. So, Mick, who do you think the Cowboys fans can expect to see back out there tomorrow? I think you'll see Tyrn Smith. Yay, I agree with whoa round of applause. You know I was I was curious on the Anthony Hitchins thing because it looked like he was out there doing stuff yesterday, and I think they came back later in the day and

said that that they listed him wrong. If I'm not mistaken, he was supposed to be listed limited. Well, how come somebody and tell me that there was an email that went out? I think you missed it. Get the email. Maybe they didn't send it to me. Make sure Mickey knows yes, goes out to Mick. My feelings are her Scotch Goldnick was at Happy hour that day. Okay, he

was limited. Yeah, they did take part of practice, yes, Okay, So all those guys that were critical, like Lelee Collins, they were all limited, right, right, because San Diego had seven guys limited. Oh. I think this had a lot to do with the game on Thursday. I think the Thursday game is kind of a joke as far as the way the injury report goes. Yeah. Yeah, it's not fair. It's not really it's not a very fair assessment of really what the situation is. I think you're absolutely right, Smith.

I think Anthy Hitchins is one of those guys we'll have to see. I mean, I think Anthony Hitchins is gonna give it a go, but we'll see how long he can go. That that's gonna be. That's gonna be. It's like, yeah, it's nice to have him out there, but how long can he go? Yeah, that's the big hope. I think Smith's gonna be fine. I'll tell you another one I think you should be excited about was Dan Bailey. Dan Bailey's gonna kick for you in this football game

all the way, all the way. I even when we do our inactives, I'm gonna put I'm gonna put Mike Nugit out on the inactor, you know. He told me after the game. I asked him, is it harder to kick off with the injury than it is kicking field goals? He said, I want to be able to do everything when I come back. Yeah, But I but didn't say it's harder. He definitely told me. Well, he said, you do have to maybe compromise. Somebody told you something. Yeah, I actually talked to somebody, you know. But do you

think he's ready to do everything? Yeah? I think Dan Billy's gonna be a kicker. Wow, I do. It depends on what they allow him to do, though, but kick field goals and all that. Yeah, I'm calling him in. I mean I think he'll I think he's got a good chance to kick field goals. I'm wondering about the kickoffs. I just call it a gut And you bring up a good point about Anthony Hitchins, especially if he's back. How will they decide those plays? What do you mean

how will they split it up? There? They have no choice. Well, he's got to play, he's got to play. Well, that's where they're at right now. I mean, there's no there's no like if there was somebody behind him, I don't know if Anthony Hitchins would play. Yeah, but there's really nobody they have to go with this to taste point though, what's the contingency if if he can't, if he's limited or you know, they does fall. Yeah, Smith's gonna start.

I believe. I believe Smith's gonna start instead of Durant, and so Durant would be your backup guy. So yeah, I know, I know, but that's that's why that's why Anthony Hitchins has to go, has to give it a Oh he really does he has. I mean they if they if they were capable at that spot. You know what, what you're not liking me right now? Making I just

feel it. I just wish that Damien Wilson had the um, the ability to play without Sean Lee, the ability to play the middle like he's he's the guy that's I think, big enough, fast enough, strong enough. I brought that up last week. Why he doesn't. I don't think he sees things the way he needs to see. And I was looking. I was looking for the word, not the ability, the the If you say the word mental capability, you think people are saying he's dumb. It's not the case. That's

because like recognition, yeah, just instincts. His instincts in the middle are I would think are slower. He doesn't see things quickly. When you put him in a Sam linebacker situation, it's take on, get rid and run. Yeah, good, that's what he could do. In the middle. He has to be able not He's got to read through the center, through the guard, and when you when you ask him to read a guy, it's not as good. He's physical enough to take the guy and get rid and then run.

That's what he can. That's why they can claim at will too, because he has to. He has the ability to run. But in the middle, in the middle, excuse me, he he doesn't see it well and that and you're exactly right. He just does not read the way the way blocks are. Now, that happened in the trap that they had for seventy one yards. Even Anthony Hitchins read it the wrong way. He read he didn't see the puller and he adjusted and then that's how that helps. He got on him. He got blocked, got blocked in

and Jalen Smith takes the wrong gap. Yeah, they had a lot of problems on that play not make Mickey happy. They should have adjusted. I need more adjustments. Quick draw fly over there, Like I told you, just give him all Tommy Johns. I think that the frustrating part, probably to this entire family basis this next man up theory. And you want, you want Damian Wilson to be that guy that can go in and step in there and do that. But Mickey's right, some people it's just different.

I'll give you an example of next man up theory that actually worked. I didn't think that Byron Bell was terrible, you know, it was it was yeah, I mean acceptible. Yeah, and but you know they had to give him help, you know, but it wasn't all every single down, but they gave him help, you know. So to me, if they would have started him and that I'd been interested

to see, it's a hindstight call. It had been interesting to see if they'd started him in the Atlantic game and he gave up a couple of sacks, So that probably didn't you know, that probably a bad example, but you know, he's been a next man up kind of a guy. Still too much pressure on Dak, but but the first half was better. I mean, you really didn't notice Byron Beell the whole first half, which is exacting when they when it turns into they half to throw

the seat. When when when the quarterback is great is when everything is going underneath, when it's the waggles, the boots, you know, throwing the ball, not having to make rip throws down the middle of the field of Dez Brian as he's lunging with a man on his hip. You know, it's those throws that he can make with with Beasley open, with Witten open, with Brian on the curl. You know, things like those are good throws for him. But man, when you're asking to make rip throws and pressure, that's

a little bit different. That's where the big difference between him and a guy like Romo is Romo will stand there and make that rip throw, you know, and have complete confidence in it where and he'll be accurate with it. So that's a difference. Yeah, And how much of that has experienced I think a lot of his ability really Yeah, I think Dak Prescott needs to have a play action game. He's a he's a he's he's everything. He's he's such a mobile quarterback and he learns. He's learned how to

throw the ball well on the move. I think he needs the ability to play on the moves. Yeah, team teams have figured out. They say, oh, let's make him throw from the pocket. Let's make him be a pocket quarterback. And you know he'll have But when he misses, when he misses a throw, like you said, well he climbs to the left and missus Beasley, then then you're like, whoa, something's up there, because that's a throw he makes all the time. You're hearing footsteps at that point. Nah, noah.

People say, oh, middle clock, middle clock, But you know what I mean, that's how he plays. He plays, He plays on the move. He throwing too. I mean Jim schwartz Sett he's defensive coordinator. He said, I've never seen May throw the ball as well on the move as this guy. And he's got and he and he watched practice every day of his guy. You know, so when when you don't have that capability to be successful doing it during a game, you're gonna have some bad plays,

gonna have to play with a moving pocket. You know what, did they run the sprint one time? Though? Did you notice they ran the sprint in the game, they sprinted the pocket going left, he hit I think he hit Beasley on the flat for four or five yards. Nothing wrong with that. That's just like a good little run right there. That's handing the ball to ezek Yellott for five yards, right, you know that that's kind of maybe. I think that's the thing that Lenahan does. You talk

about adjustments. Lenihan plays to his strength, he really really does. He tries to get him in positions where he can make plays on the move. But you know, when it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Just protect him. Yeah, yeah, it was better. He still got sacked four times in the game though, better, Yeah, four times. You know, Philip Rivers has been sacked this year twelve believe, Yeah, in

ten games. Yeah, and their offensive line. I'll tell you why Philip Rivers doesn't get sacked, because he's willing to stand there and take a hit. He does, he will get rid of the football. He is not He is not afraid to throw the ball into the fine. No. No, I'm just saying though, if you watch him play, if you watch that, you're right. It's been sacked twelve times in two games. Yeah, I went way down the rabbit

hole for this column I'm doing today. I looked up how many times Romo was sacked four more times in his career in a game. Happened twenty times out of how many games lots ninety something, yeah, something like that team went seven and thirteen when that happened, and they only put up fourteen points a game. I mean, no matter, and Romo is twenty times he got sacked four more times. Yeah, wow, I wonder what error that was. Was it a certain era of I said the word era wrong era? Is

it certain? Oh? Yeah, it was only a small handful of the first couple of years, those lean years where they were rebuilding. The latter was eight and eight years and more often. Yeah. Yeah, and he had to, you know, he had to put the team on his back. But I'm just saying, no matter who your quarterback is, I'm not comparing the two. Romo is is Hall of Fame caliber type guy. Obviously you're not going to score a lot of points when your quarterbacks under siege like that.

So how many times? Twenty games? Twenty games regular and he probably played about a one hundred and twenty games. I'm what was his career record? I mean, it's something. It's pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, it's I didn't mean to take us down. No, no no, not saying I mean any quarterback when when you're under that type of pressure, your offense is gonna have a hard time sustaining and scoring points. And again, fourteen points a game in those games where he's you know, a

lot of seven points, six points. One of them was the fifty one forty eight Denver game, though that's an outlier, probably the best game he ever played. But anyway, it's good. Now, should fans be concerned about Lyle Collins being on that practice report that says limited back, Yeah, I mean it's ourness of the week. Yeah, it's just you know, man, something something always with these players. Man, it's weird. Something will pop up in the morning. We've seen it with

with Tyren Smith. You know, all of a sudden he's due to practice and he woke up and then oh wait, back tightness a little bit. And you know they're always going to be very cautious about that, you know. And I look at this with their ability to practice with like I said, they're not going to put guys in the field that are hurt they're not. They never would. These trainers do a great job with that, and the

doctors do a great job with that. But you know, obviously they're they're very you know, they have to be cautious. If if he can't go, if something happens, well, then Byron Bell is going to be your right tackle. I don't think it's gonna be Chas Green's be Byron Bell playing over there. He's your new swing guy against Yeah, against Joey Bosa and and Ingram. We'll be up. Guys. Well, let's take our first break. When we come back, we'll get to those inactives because we're gonna have to really

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who else? Jimmy Johnson too, right, give me Johnson and your guy Everson Walls right coming, familiar face Budge and show. I think, isn't it first time semifinalists he's down to the last time His last year was ninety two, Yet I think it was ninety Oh you mean three? Then he goes to seniors and then you go to the seniors. Yeah, yeah, twenty five years. I don't think Darren Woodson was on that list. Yeah. How did Darren Woodson not make the twenty seven He didn't because he made it last year.

Simeon Rice, who we were talking about the other day, of course, with Marinelli and then Brian Urlacker former Lobo. Great might be a really good class this year, by the way, I mean Lynch made it. Yep, John Lynch, ray Lewis, Randy Moss, Steve Atwater is still in that safety discussion. Yeah, I think he's about up too, Tony Boselli, Randy Barber. See, they're starting to let guys in it didn't have really really long careers. Yeah, that a good or bad thing? That well, that's for a guy like

Tony Boselli. It's good. I mean guys that you know that what Arrol Davis didn't have a very long career. Well, then Cliff Harris needs to be coming up in the seniors. Seniors the problem real quick, Tay and that whole thing, and correct me if I'm wrong Mickey about this. Though, there's so many players that they forgot in the seniors.

Committee there have the Seniors Committee are having to go back and get guys that the initially were forgotten and you're only picking two a year, and you're picking two a year and you can't there's not enough time. I mean guys. Rick Goslin's done a great job with a guy like Rayfield, right, and Bob Hayes and people like that, but there's not enough. You don't have five spots, you

only have two. And now all of a sudden, everybody I had a we had a mailbag question this morning, asked us about Drew Pearson, and he well, he's has

better numbers than Lynn Swan. But the problem is, though there's so many other players for those spots, for those two spots, that the that the Seniors Committee is trying to go back and get and seeing what the Senior Committee is trying to do is correct or wrong they are and they only get two right, and they're trying to be really diligent about picking two who are gonna make it right, because the last thing you want to do is bring the guy back and and he doesn't

make it, and he'll never make it, seems no. My thought is, if if there's one guy, I would love to see get on it. And I know I've always talked about various cowboy guys, but I'd love to see Gil Brandt get the opportunity to be in the Hall of Fame. Who's just a contributor this year? Who is it? That's a good question. The Bartolow was last year and with Cherry who was It was Jerry and the Barlow last year? Yes, the two it was Taboo. No, no, Tagloo's not in the Hall's not in yet. He's not in.

I don't know. But they had it. Listen, Yeah, let me look, but yeah, is it it's got to be an owner. It's not Pat Boland, is it? No? I read it, and I'm sorry I was okay with it. Yeah, but see that's what I'm saying though. The I wish that a guy like Gil Brandt, who was such a huge part of scouting and what they did, you know, Ron Wolf being in, Bilpoleon being in, you know, they're

starting to get like general managers. I'd like to see a scout getting there with Gil brand Don Corriel, the old coach from the Chargers and Saint Louis, Saint Louis cart Cardinals. Yeah, yeah, well, Gil Brant is a great choice Brannan, I think because if you look at the way that he revolutionized the way that teams found players. I mean, I remember one time I was listening to Mickey on the Legend Show, and who are you talking to?

Was at Cliff Harris talking about how they found him in that random Oh yeah, I mean, and he goes, guy, Gil Brant just found me. I mean he watch a top Baptist. Yeah. Absolutely. People didn't even know that school was there, No, but Gil did. Yeah. Yeah. And the way that he worked with IMG, the way that they discovered, Okay, we can plug in all these numbers, figure out certain

traits that will correlate to the NFL. That's innovation and that's one that's a big reason Jerry's in because he helped change the landscape and so from Gill's domain, that's what he did. Yeah, Gil Gil was one of those guys. I always love the story about Gil Brant. He had a player meet him at an airport and he timed him in a forty yard dash in a terminal. Yeah, and marked off forty yards in a terminal and had the guy run and then got the time and went

back home. That's an awesome story. Yeah, that's what these guys did. That's this our old You look at his career record when he was with the Cowboys and what that team. The twenty nine years he was here, there's a legendary you know, teams. He's got Hall of Fame players, he's got a Hall of Fame coach. You know, he deserves just as much recognition as everybody else. It's already in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean it was the three of them, right, absolutely, text,

Tom and Yeah, and a lot of great players. Hill, a lot of great players, and they had a lot to do with the Cowboys. The story I'd love from him all the time is when he told me about the first couple of drafts he went to. And they would have it hide players at a hotel somewhere, and they would get one of those not a ballroom, one of those big meeting rooms, right and uh he said, everybody would walk in with a whole bunch of magazines.

They would have their Street Smith college football previews and and a bag full of quarters. Yeah, and so they would conduct the draft. No one think they're no one in there, you know, they just doing the draft. And then when you drafted the guy, you went out to the pay phone in the lobby and the quarters in called the guy. Can you believe that? Oh my goodness, my how times? And the drafts a little bigger now than he's just a tad uh and and and the

scouting wasn't like I mean, they drafted end of November December. Yeah, okay, catch season take. I tell a real quick, real quick. When I was in Green Bay, we had a guy named Dave Hanner, Dave Hog Hanner. He was from Arkansas. He coached with coach Lombardi at the with the Packers, and they were Mickey was talking about the November December draft and they had to go get on the train

to go do the West Coast swing. They were playing the Rams and the forty nine ers on the West Coast, so they had to leave to get them on the train to go out west. And they were having the draft and Hog was running the draft for the you know, for the Lombardi Packers, and he's, man, I gotta get on this train. He gave the administrative assistance three names and he said, hey, ladies, if any one of the if any one of these guys, are still left drafting for us. I got to catch this train, so that's

I need. The day of the draft, you would this is they've been the agonize about the seventh you know, mister irrelevant. They agonize about that one, and here they are. Dave's like, hey, listen, ladies, pick pick one of these three guys. I gotta catch this track. I gotta go. People were more serious about their fantasy drafts now than that. Yeah, oh yeah, wow. Nineteen seventy nine. I rob probably heard this story before, but Kelln Winslow is going to be

a first round draft choice. Missouri right, Missouri Missouri Tiger. So I'm there, I'm covering, you know, the team and uh he's He's like, yeah, you guys, come on over to my apartment, you know, and we'll wait for the phone call. Yeah. Right, So we get over to his apartment. He's got this long look on his face. He goes, well, we got a problem. We goes what's that? He goes, well, you know, this is kind of close to the end of the school year and we started cutting off our

utilities and my phone doesn't work. Oh oh no, And he's like, how am I going to find out? They can't call me, and and so we were like, well, we ended up going over to pass the hat. No, we went over to the Missourian newsroom. So I was working for the Tribune. The guys from the Missouri we

went into my newsroom four years ago. So anyway, we go over to the newsroom and we monitored the draft on the ap wire machine where it would just print it out, yeah, and it would go first, first pick, and then next to who picked next, and you could see it was going like nine ten and he hadn't been picked yet, and his face is just you know, it's like getting embarrassing, right because they thought he'd be

a top ten pick. And then at eleven San Diego Chargers select Kelln Winslow and he was like, but that's how that's how he found out. So he just ripped it off, ripped it off. You know, we're watching it as it's going, as it prints out, and that's how he found out he was drafted. And he was really cool inside the newsroom, like you know, okay, and he did his interview and then those guys went to their desks to start writing and I had to leave and

I walked out with him. I got outside, and he let out the loudest scream ever, the loudest scream because he knew he was going to Don Correll's offense. Jackie Smith a corel, corel. I wanted to tight end that would line up in the slot and go down the field. Hey what seventy nine that's when ESPN started, so they hadn't started the draft yet. So yeah, watch it on TV that they're getting it on the ap wires. Pretty

cool too, can you even imagine crazy? Well, before we get to our final breaking here, storry time here, Hey, we're all filling nostalgic. Yeah, I get it before we get to our final break here, because yes, we will have to end a little bit early today at ten twenty is. But let's get too inactives, or what we think will be the inactives as of right now. Of course, I think you already started at Brian with number two. Yeah, I do you want to go through mine? Well? Two? Oh,

got got him? Go ahead at two fifty, go ahead, eighty nine, eighty nine is good. Now we think it's going to be trying to think because you got five back out there. Twenty again, I'd go twenty. That's a good name for meny. Okay, so there's four, it's the three more and it's not gonna be barn Bell. You need him at about sixty eight. Ross Ross would be one I keep forgetting about him. Really here he is,

really here. Have we seen him? He's really he practices. Yes, okay, so you got five, throw me two more brand how about seventy nine? Okay's green? Oh Mickey doesn't like they suck and win through his teeth right now? To two tackles on the injury report, I'm going with seventy nine. What about Ben Wickery? And that's what I would say, my guy, Yeah, ben wickery Ery, because that gets fifty three up? Did fifty three not play in the game the other day? Did I see that on the arm Lillard?

Did I see that on the on the he was listed as did not play? He was active though, You sure I look it up. You know it's on there. He That's what I'm saying, Oh you got the Yeah, I don't remember seeing him. That's why I kind of was wondering he was the only guy up for the game who didn't play. For dam he's another one instead of seventy nine? Maybe maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, but with Hitchens, I think you need all the linebackers up you can, even if he's ready to go, Ben Wickery makes a

lot of sense, especially since you got he's ready to go. Yeah, I think you gotta go heavy at linebacker this week. Yeah, every every healthy guy you got. Yeah, and you're okay with Chads screen Mickey's not. But I understand that too. I just worry about the injury part of it. Yeah. Yeah, eighty five. What about eighty five? They had no Brown up last week, six receivers. It seems like they're committed to having him active on special teams, involved in the

in the offense. So I mean, maybe you do go with Jazz inactive and if you have to go emergency at tackle, then you do something else and maybe move somebody from you know, So no Zach Martin in an emergency situation. No Brown played nine offensive plays, ten special teams. Yeah. Uh March Lillard they had he had says he played. Sure, I got the right one here. Sosie played five specials. No, yeah, Sosie played five. Well then they made a mistake. No,

on this they did snap count. Yeah, not a mistake, not a mistake. And then Ben Rickery special teams, only fourteen special teams. That's it enough. So they're going to sacrifice him for the extra linebackers. What they're gonna do? Yeah makes sense? Yeah yeah, so yeah with me, that would be two twenty twenty three, fifty sixty eight, seventy nine eighty nine. People hate that when I do the number bits. Okay, cook it up. There's a roster on website.

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ten dollars large pizza pan pizza. However, many of those great ingredients you want, and it's yours and they even deliver so better delivery, better pizza, Papa Jods. That is money like that. People don't cook tonight, do they? So everybody goes out. Some people prep Yeah you prep, yeah, you snack on what you're prepping. I've got a eject. He would have a big party on Wednesday night at his place. Drunks. Uh No, actually, I'll hunt. It's a bunch of food. Oh he ends up cooking. That's where

Brian's head always goes. And you know, that's why I learned cooking a turkey. That's why how to grilled pizza out on the outside on the grill. Oh could you do that with Papa John's pizza if it wasn't cooked already? Yeah? Ask you this though, the grilled pizza. Do you put it on foil or do you put it out on the grill? Put it on the grill? Okay, so you get the grill marks, get the grill marks on it. You just kind of flip it over the dough cook on a stone. I would just put it right on

the on the grid. Risky, Brian, geez, I just kind of worried about it kind of sticking. Now it doesn't You put enough oil oil on the oil grill and then just get the bottom and then you flip it, put the ingredients on the part that you kind of chirered a little bit right, and then put it on there. And while the rest of the dough cooks, the pizza cooks, and it pretty darn good about it. You're on your third bottle of wine. And that happened. Yes, absolutely, saloon.

I was in charge of what was mine. We all had we all had a station. Oh, I know what it was. I was in charge of. So this guy owns the sausage company. Yeah, and so he had he had Saker of Chicago. He had the sauce cooked like a like a lasagna. It was all sausage and he just baked it, baked it, and so somebody had to somebody had to like crumble it up. That was my job. And I looked down, like, go, what are you talking about. That's hot. He goes, Oh, I got some plastic gloves

for you. Well though, those are the little goofy gloves that people wear to, you know, go to the doctor. Yeah. It's like, no, that's gonna be hot. I'm not doing surgical gloves. Huh. But I did. Yeah, So that was my job. Yeah, crumbler, crumbler, you are a crumbler. You are a hero. And I did snack. By the way, I was thinking of the movie Ferris Bueller. The sausage maker of SA Yeah, that's I think it was a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Actually that was here Rob's Twitter poll. Oh

speaking of Thanksgiving? Yes, a happy pole today? Oh yeah, happy Thanksgiving. And this might be an unfair pole because I know what I voted for nineteen seventy four best Thanksgiving game, Brian votes it. I loved it. Yeah, I mean it was great seven years before Rob, So, I don't know is that fair for the you know did on Twitter? Did he get seven percent? It got less than seven percent? Here's the other three? Okay, well I was part of it. Okay. Nine was at that game

ninety four. Jason Garrett's big cotcha l that day. Jason Garrett's alter a big l. There's no nothing good about that game. Nothing beating those Packers. Yeah nothing. Oh six Romo's first Thanksgiving as a starter. Five TDS Tampa Bay Rights. They've mauled him that day. That was a butt kicking. Last year, Dak and Zeke first Thanksgiving together, they balled out. I threw that one in there for the younger crowd.

Good catch by Terrence Williams. Remember the corner gott Yes, so drag swag get tiny there Yeah, anybody got to vote. I think I'd vote for coach Garrett. Coach Garrett, you know, did you say it? Well, I've watched a lot of highlights. I've watched a lot of highlights. Is that well because of the fact that he took the advice from Brill Garrett, his wife the night before when she said just throw it up to Alvin Harper. Must Terrell Buckley play that? Yep?

She knew the corners pretty well for the Packers, he did. And I think it was awesome get the red ball to win on Thanksgiving Day, glorious nic can. I I got writings for losses. Some of the losses Minnesota, the Great Game Minnesota. Uh, don't put leon to Darren Nelson one. I don't, no, no, no, Minnesota. I was thinking of Randy Moss. Oh yeah that was. And then and then there's a sleep game ninety three with the ice storm. Yeah,

I don't don't do that. And then and then the other one that I told Rob about was the eighty nine one against Philly that turned into the Bounty Bowl. Oh they went where they went after his in days and supposedly they were going out eight nothing says Thanksgiving and family, people's heads and Micky describe a setting for me real quick. Nicky described Johnson comes to the podium. Are you guys all crowded around? Are you? What are you?

What are you doing there? Are you like? Because he comes up and it's like he just makes a state because there was an interview and then he walks off at Texas Stadium and no, he got up and he talked the whole time and he left. He came back and then somebody asked him, did you say anything to Buddy Ryan after the game. He goes, I would have, but he took his big fat dot dot awesome in

there before I could say anything. Yeah, I wish Jason would say something like that, just right, just Jimmy a podium. What Jimmy was doing is he was deflecting the fact that they got beat like twenty seven to nothing of whatever score was, because they were bad. That yeah, smart. What do you vote for a Rob? I would say Tony Romo's because that was I think that was my first year on the road trips and covering full time, and it was Romo mania ro momentum. He was dating

Carry Underwood. It was just all happy, fun time. Five touchdowns and that wins the poll fifty six percent. Tony Romo. It wasn't coach Garrett. He got fourteen percent of the vote. I guess I should have voted. He would have got So what did what did my seventy four team get four percent? That's because people's I went to the game with my grandmother. Absolutely, I was there. I mean that that might be the most famous one replacing game. Yeah, but about the snow game, even though we lost, to

get right about the most memorable one. I felt bad for Leon that I didn't put it in there was. That was a weird day too. Remember that I got on I got on one. I guess it was one fourteen got the stadium was still one. Yeah, and I had to get my tires in the ruts to get there because they didn't know. They didn't that snow plows couldn't get out. Everything was iced over, and so I'm in the ruts going towards Texas Stadium might get there.

They had the field covered with tarp, but it wasn't a tarp like a baseball tar, like a big long thing. It was these little ten yards strip strips that were going horizontally across the field, right, So first problem was they had nothing. The sleet was so high on the field, they didn't have anything to get it off. So they found some buddy who would opened his machine store or whatever, and they got these little tractors and brought them over

and they kind of started moving the stuff off. But then when they got it off, the tarp froze onto the field and they have to start ripping it off. Feld. Yeah, and so they started ripping it off in strips to get it Can Bob being disingenuous? Hey, no, I think that's interesting. Can Dak get five touchdowns tomorrow? Wow? How about two? Five? Because Tony Romo got five touchdowns, He did five touchdowns combined rushing passing. I'm gonna take that

dicky approach, though. I think they're gonna have to score twenty four points at least at least at least Yeah, I think that because the Chargers are one of those teams that, yeah, they had the big outburst last week, but they got two, they got to pick six in a fumble return for a touchdown, They got fourteen off that they got some defensive big place. Yeah, they sure did.

I but traditionally they're They've been in games that their laws have been twenty four twenty one, nineteen seventeen, twenty six, twenty four, twenty they won the Giants scoring yeah, twenty seven, twenty two, they beat the Raiders seventeen sixteen. You know, they beat Denver twenty one twenty one nothing, and they lost in New England twenty one thirteen. So they don't score a lot of points. They've only had one game they've scored more than twenty seven points. I'm curious, Buffalo,

I'm curious. Can they get their running game going. They've got Melvin Gordon, That's what I would work. He's only getting three point eight yards to carry this season. They're gonna try, Yeah, they're gonna try. We're gonna see, Oh well it's done in the past few games. Well, if you want, if you want, if you're kin wizzen Hunt, the offensive coordinator, you're watching the tape and you're going, what's my best avenue for success? They haven't proven they

could stop the run consistently without Sean Lee. Why not? You know, Melvin Gordon is just as explosive as Jagai he is. You know, I mean, I've seen film things at Jacksonville game, they throw him a hand him a toss sweep. And remember Jackson was watching a couple of game was so I watched it was the New England game. Had a huge run in the New England at the eighty seven yard touchdown. Yeah, yeah, huge run in that game New England. You know that was a finish. I

mean he didn't get caught from behind. So yeah, I mean, if I'm if I'm kin Wizzen Hunt, I'm thinking, you know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna load up and see if I can run this football. And these guys, you know the thing with their passing game. I noticed their top five receivers, only two of them are wide receivers. Yeah, the other ones are running backs in a tight end they play with. Yeah, but Gates can still make plays and Hunter Henry when Hunts only caught six past sixteen passes,

Henry's the guy. Yeah, Henry's the guy when when they throw the ball to him, when he has five or more receptions their offense, they win games. I mean, he's kind of there, like, well, what he's there, Zeke, you know what I'm saying. He's there, like you gotta get him involved in the game. The average is thirteen yards a catch. Yeah, so it's kind of like playing Philadelphia with the three wide receivers. Again, Gates is more on

reputation now than it is ability. But the last time I think these two teams played in San Diego, I think he was nine for nine on targets and catches to Gates. Yeah, to Gates. Wow. And that's the game they had Woodhead and they ran the remember that they so real route and they couldn't cover what wood Head And that was Bruce Carter. That's Bruce Carter day. Are we gonna play some rank them? That probably created Bruce

Carter is a free agent. That's that's that's true. Let's play rank them real quick before we get out of here. What are we ranking? Oh? We pick a player, Yeah, you could take you could take Lawrence back. Get Lawrence bat now since did he zeroed out like zeroed out for me? Actually had five tackles? Yeah, a lot of pressures, Yeah he did. He wasn't terrible. Back to Lawrence. Tell who you got Dan Bailey. Bailey, you know you're talking about these low scoring games, Bryan, and you're saying, you

know it could come down to maybe a field goal. Hey, let me tell you seat think about two as well. You need touchdowns. This team is the best in the league in red zone defense. Only forty percent of the time team score touchdowns. How about this for stat They only give up one point eight yards a carry or pass inside the red zone. That's best in the league. One point eight yard. That's their average of yards given up and in the red zone. So to help you

guys out to pick somebody, Oh, I got my goal. Okay, are they still dead last in run defense? They are absolutely dead last and run defense. Just throw that out for you. That's the four point nine four point nine eight. I'll take Alfred Morris. Then, yeah, why not, here you got I'll take Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott needs bounce back in this one. He really really does. He had to answer a lot of questions about plays he missed in

the game. I think this is a podium where he stands up there and talks about how they were able to get some things done tomorrow. Is he eating the turkey leg post game? I'm gonna say, well, if he's right, he is, Yeah, I think yeah, that's a good point. I think that maybe Alfred Morris might get the turkey leg. Maybe they'll share it, maybe they'll have him on camera together point nine yards a rush four point nine eight. Yeah, yeah,

that's to me. Yeah, could be very well, right. I think Dallas two teams are gonna be trying to committed to run the football tomorrow. I think so and I but I try to chip away at each But I like Dak Prescott tomorrow if they can get things going. I like a bounce back game, him talking at the podium about things he did well and not things he did poorly. And before we go, Mick, what's the first play of tomorrow's game. It's gonna be hand off to Alfred Morris. Whoo out. I mean last week it was

a handoff to a young money Rod. Yeah. Well, yeah, Mickey's gonna get him in thirteen personnel, he's gonna just he's gonna wham it off that right side against a nine man front. Why do they do that? You're just inviting everybody to come to the line of scrimmage. Sixty year of the time they bang their head against that wall. Run first offense. Mick thro to Jason Witton last week on the first play of the game for yards. First

play right, it was seven yards. It was all all curl for and then gaining another yard after that on that series, kicked a field goal. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us on this short week. Tune in tomorrow the pregame show two Yeah, okay, two fifteen. Did we decide on Friday yet? Friday? We're gonna make sure that we keep you in the loop on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So join us whenever we come back.

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